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What the fuck happened at Eurovision 2024? - Verily Podcasty - Ep 5 (Patreon)

Published:
2024-05-14 08:52:55
Edited:
2024-05-27 17:45:51
Imported:
2026-06

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Last year we revelled in Eurovision. This year we boycotted.

It was a very intense week so we unpack what went down. What role do big media spectacles play in genocide? Why is Israel allowed to play by a different set of rules? And is Big Shampoo in charge of Eurovision?

 

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Vince Whitacre

I love the thought of the two of you podcasting from a blanket fort.

Verity Ritchie

lol we have to! Also anything outside of the frame when we film a video is basically a giant blanket fort, trying to get rid of the echo. When we filmed in the toilet that one time there were pillows taped to the walls just out of sight and a blanket on the floor...

DBez

Hey, just want to say a big thank you for everything you did speaking out on this in the last year! I became a Patreon last week because you were one of the few pop culture channels I saw speaking out on this. You both definitely made an impact with how I approached Eurovision this year, and subsequently a lot of my friendship group as well. Not just boycotting but writing to broadcasters, acts, and MPs. I can really relate to the feeling of defeat and I found it super eye-opening to hear that the SA boycotts lasted over a decade. It definitely makes me hopeful of where we’ll be in 10 years’ time and a reminder that what we do now is not just for the present but also for the years and generations to come!

Niamh

This is the kind of behind the scenes content I patronize for 😂

Niamh

Hey for something fun and who knows, maybe click-able? have you thought about talking about amc's interview with the vampire show? Personally I love it and have been pretty frustrated by the lack of substantive, (and book-spoiler-free) discussion I've been able to find about it. And I consider you something of an authority on queer vampire fiction so! Just something to think about 😊

Birdie

so informative and comprehensive. thank you both for all you do! not sure if this is an appropriate question, but for the q&a, i'm interested in the financial aspect of verilybitchie. lately, i see many youtubers turning to patreon and merch stores to fund their work, because ad revenue isn't sufficient. what are the specifics of how verilybitchie is funded via patreon/ad revenue/other income sources? how can you afford to put so much hard work into the channel haha? if that is inappropriate: what, physically, does writing a video look like? are there 50 tabs open on your browsers with academic articles pulled up on each? is there a budget for buying relevant books? can we see the banter in the comment section of the video script google docs? (very proud of your success, as well! the channel has grown fantastically and i will continue to show it off to everyone i know.) 💗

case deerly

great episode! when i saw the post fielding for questions, i was /so/ hoping you would do exactly this. following everything on twitter was utter insanity, and i’m grateful to the both of you for putting it all together like this. love the podcast as always!

Pchu

Just want to echo a lot of the above comment. I originally joined the Patreon because of your Queer Politics of Eurovision video (fun fact: I took a Eurovision ethnomusicology course in undergrad!) and I really appreciated your more recent video and advocacy around the boycott. As the "Eurovision person" of my friend group, I hope I also inspired others to write using your templates/list. I was/am so grateful for this podcast ep too because I was super curious about how things played out but didn't want to delve too deeply in. I am genuinely sad to have "missed" (boycotted) ESC this year but that feeling obviously pales in comparison to the reasons why I boycotted in the first place.

Hunca Munca

Thank you so much for this. I can't really put my feelings into words but I just want to get across somehow, Ada's words about that bottle neck that happens when things are about to change. How everything gets worse right before it gets better. To hear someone else express that really got me emotional. I needed to hear it. Thank you for this discussion 🌼

Muireann McGlynn

As an Irish person the response to Bambi Thug has been a really fascinating microcosm of the recent relationship between Irishness, Palestine and public perception. Ireland and Irish people have been receiving a disproportionate amount of praise for our "support" for Palestine. While we might be better than many countries, a lot of political support on a Government level has felt really performative, we still haven't expelled the Israeli ambassador. But there's an outpouring of appreciation as though we've done anything to move the needle. Bambi Thug has built a brand over this faux progressivism and its aggravating to see the praise they've been getting while not only failing to achieve the bare minimum but perpetuating harm. I think you're right that support for Palestine has become "trendy" and a lot of people are looking to profit from it or get clout. It used to be that support for Palestine was a genuine defining factor of leftism, you could be pretty sure that someone's politics were sound if they were vocally supportive of Palestinian liberation. Now I see some of the worst grifters using performative activism to bolster their own social or financial standing and its difficult to watch. These celebrity block lists feel like a great example of mob mentality activism that comes from a desire to punish people rather than accomplish anything. Black people and women seem disproportionately suggested for these block lists including people very vocally supportive of Palestine. For a movement not centering celebrities its utterly celebrity obsessed and can't conceive of actions outside of them. This was a very long ramble but thank you for the work you did on this. I was a fan of your 1st Eurovision video since it came out and your voices really were a glimmer of hope these past few weeks. Hope your cough heals soon, I'm recovering from a shite one myself

Jae H

This was a tough listen, but thank you for your calm, angry clarity on Eurovision, the genocide, and the moral hypocrisy surrounding them both

Jae H

I’m sorry to hear that the Doctor Who video didn’t do numbers, though. With this and LOTR, could it be you’re getting punished by the YouTube algorithm for the video before those two having The Forbidden G Word in the title? I don’t know how The Algorithm or YouTube audience-building work at all, but it’s striking how those last three videos are the ones with fewest viewers recently

Verity Ritchie

I think its so hard to figure out the algorithm that a lot of YouTubers have come up with ideas about how the algorithm might punish you, but I think that's anthropomorphism tbh. I think probably what happened was just that these videos are not that clickable. We knew that going into them, even though we still had our fingers crossed. Like trans Doctor Who has been way overdone over the last 6 months let alone 6 years. LOTR gay? That's a like 30 year old meme. Sadly just ain't that clickable!

Alyssa Sembrat

I love this podcast and the YouTube channel. You are both so funny and serious at the same time. Thank you for speaking up about Eurovision. Also your videos on bisexuality helped me make peace with my sexuality. So thank you ❤️