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Getting Schooled - Christian Cultural Appropriation 101 (Patreon)

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When is something off-limits for Christians to do?

When is something off-limits for Christians to do? Kaitlyn and Skye talk about how so many fights in the church are actually about forms of cultural appropriation. Can we appropriate yoga when it may have ties to other religions? What about Christmas trees?

Christ and Culture by H. Richard Niebuhr: https://a.co/d/fLMc5bh

Culture Making: Recovering Our Creative Calling by Andy Crouch: https://a.co/d/iuv2UXf

Culture Care: Reconnecting with Beauty for Our Common Life by Makota Fujimura: https://a.co/d/ar7P0jf

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David Rogers

Full title Jeanne Halgren Kilde, _When Church Became Theatre: the Transformation of Evangelical Architecture and Worship in Nineteenth Century America_. NY: Oxford UP, 2002

Nancy Parlette

Loved this class! I work with international students from all over and it is really important to be aware of what I, as an American, may think is proper Christianity, vs what is just a cultural preference or accommodation. Thanks!

Eddie Smock

Does Kaitlyn know how much Phill used to talk about Eniegram stuff in the 2012-2014 episodes. Sorta feels like she's calling him out lol.

Amy Ryals

Great conversation. Thank you for reminding us that God is bigger than the boogeyman and to be careful about getting a demon up my butt. Tim

Jess

In the 80s I heard it frequently that Christian rock was wrong. Southern Gospel was considered wholesome despite the fact that it had uptempo music, drums, and electronic guitars like the rock music.

Jess

Isn’t most yoga far removed from the spiritual aspect? I thought it was mostly health related nowadays. If Christians want to avoid symbols with pagan roots, they should learn about wedding rings. They were once pagan but there is no thought of that now. The same can be said for other symbols and practices.

Beth Prather

The more you tell us now means we can't do it! Great I've heard about yoga.. So now it is stretching and Meditation.. I pray.. if it occurs in a stretch I'm doing. Now the Easter Eggs ... really. Kaitlyn you like Halloween. #### I grew up Southern Baptist and still today. We would have Trunk or treat. Pass out candy and Bibles and had games and food to share in the church. But the best is the jack o lantern with yellow lights on a sticker. It says " Shine your light light for Jesus!" I love it. Just stamp a Christian stamp for Jesus!! Forget the pagan crap.. lol

Beth Prather

If the Halloween 🎃 stuff isn't pagan, I can't make or believe hunting Easter Eggs are pagan. We do it at church and candy and spring etc. There is a teaching Easter Egg kit with something in each egg that teaches about the Easter Story. The kids open up an egg and we tell the story. They love it. Because Jesus rose again. ALL THINGS ARE NEW. IF you feel the Holy Spirit tells you it is wrong, than don't do it. If you really don't feel bad about it or don't know... Use it for God's glory!

Beth Prather

I've been to a place years ago that was to be a catholic beautiful church except it was located in one of two American," sin cities, " this was right before a horrible hurricane in one. Still I sit in a pew as tours went on and looked at the song book and for some reason.I prayed or thought, " Is God even in this place?" It felt disrespectful at the time with me and really different..The Holy Spirit spoke to me right then. " God is here because he lives in you." It was huge! Because I have heard about places like Haiti and Japan too is like 1% Christian. I just know the more Christians in areas should push out any demonic forces. I'm not saying satan isn't tricky as many praise things in our norm. But I haven't gone to other places but know this truth.

Judy Moen

I used to do Christian yoga that included prayer… taught by a pastor. I miss that class.

Codi

The enneagrm is a big one I've heard and have personally been criticized for using it because of its roots. Another is having any picture of Jesus, including a nativity baby because it gives us a false view of the actual Christ. This same argument was used for not watching the Chosen or other Christian media. What should my response be when someone tells me this? I personally do not have the same convictions.

Jennifer O'Connor

Intrigued by the idea that what is familiar to me may be deemed more important than what is unfamiliar. Have to think on how that may create bias in me towards others

Jon Osantowski

My wife and I took a risk and asked our pastors if we could start a small group centered around DND. That was an interesting conversation! It has ultimately flourished!

Jenni

I loved where Skye said is it formative or malformative? That’s what I’m trying to teach my kids. My daughter’s friend tried to tear down her Taylor Swift poster because she “sold her soul to Satan.” I’ve taught my daughter that some of Swift’s songs are fun and some aren’t appropriate for you to listen to yet.

Joy Diaz
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I heard someone reply to that argument by saying that we already have an image of Christ or God in our heads. It may look a little like Jonathan Roumie now, but its not like it didn't exist before. It is nieve to think we can go through life in the US and not have some mental image of God. The media might shape what that looks like, but didn't create it. Dont know if that helps, just what I heard. Theologically, we are the image bearers of God. So, there is more to get into there.

Joan R Hulst

Well, there it is. Kaitlyn offered us some News of the Butt!!

Esther Luna

I was a Christian worker in a Muslim country for many years. My fellow workers and I used to talk about the sound of call to prayer and the chanting of the Quran as feeling demonic to us. My children who grew up hearing the prayer call, have sweet, positive childhood memories associated with it. Although to this day I have a slight trauma response to Quranic chanting because of difficult experiences I associate with it, I recognize that this is entirely subjective and that there is nothing inherently demonic in that form of Holy book reading. Thank you for this thoughtful presentation. Skye's mixed ethnic and religious background make him the perfect person to address these issues. And, Skye, You didn't even accuse us of being racist, although we probably are to some extent! Anyway, I am no longer allergic to other religions and I am so done with the competing religion model of evangelism. At the same time, I am more secure in my own faith, not less!

Paul Owens

Thanks for this! Maybe next time you can talk about Christians appropriating from other religions and what are the ramifications there. I know a group of Christians that celebrate Shabbat and all the Jewish holidays. Part of it seems interesting, also partly disrespectful- especially when posting photos to social media. 😬

MichEal Rafter

Great point about origin of the cross. I’ve had this thought that Christians so removed themselves from innovating in the world, that of course other humans continued to create and put good into the world. God made humans to invent and create. But, those humans following God stopped or failed to invent the electric guitar, or the iPhone, or concerts. So, then the “world” uses these things first, and when a Christian church say uses modern technology people complain and say its like a concert, but its just using good things in the world that humans crafted. How about Christians start leading the way … if Christians has invented great art first, using lighting and skilled musicians on a stage, then people going to concerts might say, oh it’s like church.

Caleb

I think this episode was secretly a bonus episode of the skypod with Kaitlyn as a guest 😂 Great conversation!

Jim Stauffer

I have two Holy Post Tee shirts with Skye on them

Tonya Snodgrass

I practice yoga and meditation, despite being taught how evil it is (I grew up conservative Baptist and went to a very conservative Baptist Bible college). I have found both practices to be very grounding and challenging. As someone with major depressive disorder, OCD, and ADHD, both practices help me grow in my ability to take my thoughts captive (2 Corinthians 10:5). I think that so much of what we do depends on our intentions. The Old Testament prophets and Jesus constantly called out people for doing the right religious practices, but not truly worshipping God in their hearts. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with me practicing meditation if it’s helping me grow in godly character. I think what would be truly helpful in our Christian culture is getting more comfortable with asking people why they do participate in certain practices rather than assuming ill intent. For example, a few people in my church have brought up their issues with me to one of my pastors because I have a “I Read Banned Books” sticker on my coffee tumbler. No one had personally asked me about it; they just assume that I’m pushing a liberal agenda on their kids (I teach a preteens class). If they took the time to converse with me, they’d understand my heart behind it - that my concern is with censorship and what could happen if we let the government have too much control over what books are accessible, not encouraging kids to read inappropriate books.