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The SkyePod: Superman Nerdfest (Patreon)

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2025-07-11 10:00:12
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The long-awaited Superman movie is out—Skye, David French, and Esau McCaulley went to an early screening and are here to share their opinions. How does this version of Superman reflect our changing relationship with power and authority? 

0:03 - Theme Song

4:30 - James Gunn

14:44 - Good, but not Subtle

22:55 - Past the Origin

31:50 - Gen Z’s Superman

40:50 - Populism and Superman

51:30 - Superman the Immigrant

57:47 - End Credits

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Jeffery McBride

Did Superman make any mistakes he learned from in the 1978 Superman? He takes on the god like power of turning back time and doesn’t seem to suffer any ramifications. It could be argued that he made the mistake in Superman 2 giving up his powers and the two movies were meant to be seen as one story.

Skye Jethani
>>181196997

Yes, he did. By “mistake” I mean a choice that he regrets. In Superman (1978) he decides to stop the missile flying toward New Jersey rather than the one aimed at California where Lois is. As a result, Lois dies. It leads to the most heartbreaking moment of the film when Superman cries out in agony knowing he could have saved her if he had put his own desires ahead of others’. Interestingly, the opposite happens in Superman II. He puts his desire to be with Lois ahead of his duty to protect the world. He regrets this when he learns Zod has taken over the planet. Both of these movies work because Superman makes decisions he regrets (aka, mistakes) and learns from them. That does not happen in the new movie. -Skye

Justin Fleming (The Typer)

Honestly I'd love to see this type of stuff more often from the Holy Post crew. The critical conversation about the movie as it is is a little flat but once you start discussing potential meanings and you all put up your perspectives I really liked the discussion. All three of you had an idea of what this movie can mean today culturally and how it might speak to people and I saw each perspective as a little true. I just saw the movie last night and it does feel like a lot of its ideas are simplified (so motives are just stated) for the sake of cutting past the origins and for making sure no one (especially kids) get the wrong ideas here. So Superman is against killing. Flat out. A lot of discussion you get about Superman in this movie is a cultural viewpoint reflecting Superman. I agree his biggest arc is that he mainly tries to find assurance of who he's supposed to be (and I LOVE Esau's take that young people are dealing with a lot of false messages being revealed by their parents), but the movie still seemed to not let these things get in the way of the spirit of a movie about a Superhero whose primary goal is to keep the peace. Even most characters aren't given that much wiggle room to reflect or philosophize about Superman, it's more shown in what actions they take surrounding him. It feels like James wanted that Saturday morning cartoon vibe, like Skye said this feels like a two part episode arc in Justice League where the motivations behind characters don't need to be that complex. The result is a strong feel good Superman movie. Something we haven't had in 20+ years. And that might be why it's a good trick: Make a Superman movie that's positive and beautiful first so audiences can gladly engage in a Superman story that's a little more complicated and nuanced later. Doing that without doing a Reboot is maybe the most remarkable thing happening here.