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The SkyePod - Both-Sidesism (Patreon)

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Holy Post Media is no stranger to accusations of both-sidesism. Skye and Kaitlyn talk about why they believe pointing out problems on both sides isn’t simple equivocation or conflict-avoidance, but instead a responsibility—and maybe even a way to avoid idolatry.

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Geoffrey Herman

Great episode. I appreciated it. I'm commenting to clarify that I think Skye and Kaitlyn and commenters who say "America has no far left" are talking post each other. Skye and Kaitlyn are using "far left" to essentially mean "fundamentalist democrats" whereas the commenters are referring to the far left as those who fully opposed capitalism and support full state control of the economy. In this latter left-right definition, AOC and Bernie are actually center-left political thinkers and the democratic party as generally center-right, hence "there is no far left in American politics". I think it would be good for Kaitlyn and Skye to emphasize that they are concerned about fundamentalist attitudes and actions in those who are on the "left" in American politics and that's what they mean when they use the shorthand "far left". While the phrase may not match certain technical rigor in certain circles, language is fluid and it can be helpful to understand each other's use of it.

Heather Darring

I'm all late, but I think one of the problems with the "both-sides do it" is WHEN you bring it up. If one of my kids gets caught breaking a rule, what is the purpose of myself or the child saying that my other kid also broke a rule a few months ago? It's to lessen the impact of the current offense, right? That's the only reason for bringing it up at that moment. Call stuff out on both sides as it happens, but every time the right does something terrible, we don't have to go searching for something the left does or vice versa. "I don't care if Bobby also broke a dish, we are talking about you right now."

Jill Johnston

Absolutely love you guys and the way you wrestle with how we can navigate these chaos waters in a God honoring way.

Julia Ruggieri
>>188230409

As a teacher I heard that all the time. 8th grade boys were the largest culprits. Sometimes when I listen to THP team, especially Skye (while I respect him a great deal) he sounds like some of those 8th grade boys. He sounds like he’s trying to minimize and normalize the dangerous and unlawful moves by the current administration and his right wing CN followers by going to both sides. For many people, this invokes a sense of calm. “If both sides do it then it really can’t be all that bad or scary”. Autocrats use that need for normalcy and calm to overwhelm their citizens. Bannon bragged in the 1st Trump term about “overwhelming them with s&&t”. Bannon openly stated that he loves Leninist propaganda. Everything from Miller plagiarizing Goebbels, the DOJ getting an indictment on Comey, masked agents and troops scooping up pastors, children, homeless, disabled, (in Chicago alone) is an example of an autocrat’s or Bannon’s words “flooding the zone with…”. It distracts from Epstein, Homan, unemployment, tariffs etc. It’s hard for most of us to manage the constant assaults. Both sides is a way some calm their thinking. The Nazis and the Soviets are examples of regimes which mastered silencing their populace just this way.

Joel Buursma

I apologize that I haven't listened to the episode yet, but one reason that I'm underwhelmed by accusations of "both-sidesism" is that the world seems so deeply & profoundly awash with "other-sideism". And a "both-sidesism" accusation just seems like another way to keep that going. By "other-sideism", I mean comments in the general format of "WE don't do X. We would never do X. It's just you nasties on the other side that do X." It seems to so often come from a selective viewing of the facts and a resistance to self-reflection.

Joel Buursma
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My comment AFTER listening to the episode: you guys, I'm really grateful for you. God bless you and keep you. Thanks for all you do.