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Communion 101 | Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess (Patreon)

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This episode is also available to watch on YouTube, exclusive for Patreon supporters: Suggested Resources: Early Christian Worship: A Basic

This episode is also available to watch on YouTube, exclusive for Patreon supporters: https://youtu.be/X8RGa0b565E

Suggested Resources:

Early Christian Worship: A Basic Introduction to Ideas and Practice by Paul Bradshaw - https://amzn.to/3ncakcl

Ancient-Future Worship: Proclaiming and Enacting God's Narrative by Robert Webber - https://amzn.to/3ncaRLn

Water from a Deep Well: Christian Spirituality from Early Martyrs to Modern Missionaries by Gerald Sittser - https://amzn.to/3lw7YVw

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Bree Talks

So I have little experience with closed communion but how does the Last Supper and Judas' participation play into this theology. Thanks

Julia Ruggieri

Great episode. I’m an Episcopalian, but I’ve visited churches from many other denominations. I’ve read Bradshaw & Webber as well. Both Kaitlyn & Skye do a great job explaining open vs closed communion models. I see you didn’t have time/desire to tackle transubstantiation vs consubstantiation, bread vs wafer, leaven vs unleavened, wine vs grape juice etc. Great episode!!!!!

Joseph Shelnutt

Great episode! Right up there with the Harrowing of Hell! I would’ve liked to hear your thoughts on transubstantiation but I still really enjoyed it.

Dav

Fascinating discussion. First, please please do a discussion on Baptism. I attend a Calvary church who often does open (anyone at that time) baptism, often including those of assurance or rededication. As someone who was raised NW conservative Baptist, where baptism was more of a "one and done" and where the person met with the pastor often ahead of time, this difference I've always found jaring. Also, w.r.t. communion, I've always been taught that 1 Cor 11:27-30 was the primary driver behind closed baptism. Although, I guess if someone wasn't a Christian, they already have God's judgement against them, so it's a moot point.

Janet Caldwell

Great conversation!! I’ve been SBC all my life until the last Couple years. I’m 62. Always Was closed. Since leaving we’ve attended episcopal, non denomination, Methodist and Presbyterian. In all these there has been open communion and I’ve found it refreshing to walk down the aisle to the pastor/preacher/minister in silence as I reflected and receive the Bread and blessings and walk back to my seat remembering Christ's sacrifice for us. I have always felt it was awkward when people from other traditions were told they couldn’t participate because they were not a member. I really appreciated this and look forward to getting schooled on baptism

Carson Greenhaw

Kaitlyn voiced my concern at the end with there being a difference between meals together/hospitality and communion. There is a difference and Jesus dining with sinners, which is wonderful hospitality, isn't communion in the sense of the Lord's Supper. Both are examples to be followed! Skye did blow my mind with the Judas at the Last Supper table. I am going to have to chew on that! Great episode!

Ryan Clegg

One of the books is on Kindle Unlimited. Score!

Dan

Question for Skye and Kaitlyn: Are you familiar with Ray Vander Laan's perspective on the cultural view of the offering of the Passover cup at the last supper? I would be interested in your thoughts on this view. Do you perceive that, those who have been baptized into the church, that every time we take communion we are reaffirming our acceptance of Jesus precious gift of salvation. https://www.thattheworldmayknow.com/seder-and-marriage

Regina McCurdy
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I’ve always asked myself that question for years about Judas at the Passover table. I mean, there are so many different drawings and images of artists’ renditions of the Passover meal and Judas is included in the pictures. Lots to chew on for sure!

Caroline Grout

I loved this episode! I really hope you guys offer a part 2 that dives into all the other parts of the Lord's Supper that you touched on today (e.g. wine vs. grape juice, transubstantiation, etc.) and also a baptism episode.

Barb Reed

Excellent episode! I really enjoyed hearing both “sides” of this discussion. Looking forward to hearing about the baptism conversation coming next!

Daniel and Olivia Greiwe

Can we get rid of the bell at the beginning of the episodes? It wakes my sleeping baby on car rides 😅🫠

MichEal Rafter

I know of a church who says we practice what is called “open communion”, that is for anyone who has accepted Christ. This sounds good, cause they are open, but then exclusive, saying its only for some people. I think they are saying it’s open to those who aren’t members of their church. But is it me, or is this confusing? I think you’re either closed or open, not somewhere in middle, and think its better to be open and not restrict anyone if they are seeking. What do you think?

Beth Prather

I Corinthians 11: 27- 31 was always used in my Baptist tradition and more that tells to examine yourself. That means believers too. But that verse 27 was used as A BIG deal for those that have not stated or come up as believers and Baptized, would be doing it unworthily and would be eating and drinking God's judgement on yourself. It was like a big deal to take it if u were a child that hadn't been baptized or a person. We were told it would be a BIG SIN.. to do that. Idk if God is going to whip us or what..LOL. Still it does say that. It does mean as believers to examine yourself.. Ask for forgiveness of sin too.

Beth Prather

I wish you all would do a teaching on Judas. For some reason, I don't really get the difference between Judas and Peter.. except satan does enter him and therefore I guess he never was a real believer.. Well, except this is before Jesus death on the cross.. I do. IM missing something about Judus

Beth Prather

What Kaitlyn just stated is the reason we are to examine ourselves and ask forgiveness of sins. Our Preacher almost always stays that.