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You asked, you voted, and now the Holy Post team has answered! In this brand new segment, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn try to answer the question, "What do you think spiritual warfare actually looks like and how much of a role should it play in the life of a believer?"

This bonus segment is also available to watch on Youtube (exclusive for Patreon Supporters): https://youtu.be/nC4Hw68cuk4

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Bruce Huseby

I would also agree that this was short and frankly a very inadequate and somewhat naive presentation. I am not adhering to the extremes and the references (Peretti) that caused everyone to look for a demon behind every stone. I would encourage everyone listening to this particular podcast to study the scriptures yourself. Paul gives some very warfare sounding challenges to us on 2 Corinthians 10:3-4. Ephesians 6 gives us a very battle ready description that is not over parents, wives and slaves. The shield of faith is to protect us from the fiery darts of the wicked. Peter describes that we have an adversary that seeks to devour. Jesus and the disciples were not pacifists when they faced the evil of demons. I have been in pastoral ministry for 48 years and have ministered in multiple countries. I will tell you that to my friends in Mozambique, spiritual warfare is real as they face the evils of witchcraft. In the Middle East and Central Asia the “evil eye” is present everywhere. In Uzbekistan, from the hats (dopas) men wear to weeds in doorways spiritism is present. In ministry, yes our character matters but it goes beyond character to concerted prayer and confronting the evil of both demon influences and possession. Hallelujah that we can say, greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. Again, my challenge is from 2 Timothy were Paul challenges Timothy to be a good soldier and “Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.” Finally, I do love you Skye, Kaitlyn and Phil, Christian too. You challenge me to think about many of my presuppositions. What you present has been been healthy for my spiritual walk and stretched me in many ways.

Janet Caldwell
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Thanks for sharing your perspective. I’ve traveled to Cambodia 11 times over the past 13 years on mission trip to minister in an orphanage and a women’s center. One year there was a new local women from the village they had hired to help with cleaning at the women’s center who had had many demons come out through prayer. I did not observe it as it happened earlier that year but we were told how the demons actually spoke out through the women — kind of like in the exorcist. They prayed and battled over this women for 3 days until she was finally released. I don’t think here in America or in our western world we see that kind of spiritual warfare played out, but it does exist in third world areas. I am not one to dwell on spiritual warfare either. When I’m battling something my sister will say, don’t let the enemy have that over you and it irritates me every time because I think it’s an internal issue I’m working through not necessarily an attack from the”enemy”. I appreciated this conversation and tend to agree with Kristen over the “ditches” we can fall into on this topic. Too much emphasis on the “enemies” hold on us and not about building our character through the teachings of Jesus

Jesse Coyne

I agree with many here that I appreciate the frankness of this conversation and the caution against the ditches one can fall into with regard to this topic. However, we did miss a big slice of the conversation by bypassing the Gospels and Acts to emphasize the teaching in the epistles. I agree that the emphasis in the letters is predominantly about character formation, but even in light of their contingent nature, there is more there with regard to spiritual warfare than Ephesians 6. That entire letter is run through with cosmic dimensions, and 3:9-13 in itself is stunning in its declaration of the centrality of this narrative. Regardless of the content of the letters, exorcism was a central feature of Jesus’s ministry. Why is that? Where in the OT does it seem to be hinting at this feature — and a central one at that — of the messianic ministry? Growing up in a Baptist tradition also — including entirely too many years of schooling — we gave lip service to these questions and acknowledged spiritual realities (the Bible says it, we had to believe it!), but they played no real role in our lives. The work of the recently departed Mike Heiser was a huge paradigm shift for me and helped connect a bunch of those missing dots. His work really stands behind much of that Bible Project series on Spiritual Beings another commentator mentioned above. The big point of departure won’t necessarily be on what spiritual warfare is or even its role in our lives but on its essential role in the storyline of the Bible that brings an added depth to Jesus’s ministry, death, descent to Hades mentioned by Kaitlyn, resurrection, and ascension that is lacking without it. To counter Skye’s classic movie quote with another from The Usual Suspects, “the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” 😀