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Game of Thrones 5x3 | Watch Along

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Daymee

This time watching the show, the bridge city with buildings on top of buildings reminded me of a really great game, Spiritfarer, where you ride around on a boat with spirits and build houses and orchards and gardens and kitchens.

Christophe

Arya and Jon Snow have a very deep relationship and love for each other in the books. They didn't really have time to establish that in the show in the very short time they were at Winterfell together in the first episode, they just had that small scene where Jon gave her Needle and it didn't necessarily make it clear that their relationship was stronger than any of the other siblings'. But in the books, from the beginning they're established as having a close connection. They're the only of Ned's children that look like him in the books, dark hair, grey eyes, long face. While all the other Stark children, Robb, Sansa, Bran and Rickon, look like Catelyn and the Tullys, auburn hair with blue eyes. And they both feel like outsiders, children who don't fit into society, Jon as a bastard, Arya as a tomboy. They keep thinking of each other in the books, more and more as the books go on, missing each other and wanting to come back to each other. It's all very sweet. So Needle is even more important to Arya, it's a reminder of Jon, and by extension Winterfell and her Stark identity. They really tried to give it everything they had in that scene where Arya debates throwing away Needle in terms of trying to emphasize the emotional importance, with the sunset wide shot, emotional Stark music and Arya welling up, but it's no wonder that it can't really bring across what they never established. In the show, Needle is mostly just a fun, unique sword and you might even have forgotten that Jon gave it to her if you just watched season 1 once. And that's not necessarily a criticism of the show, it's hard to convey vague feelings of longing and the inner life of characters more generally in a tv show, especially when, like I said, they just didn't have time to establish that connection in the first place. But that's why they made that scene such a big deal.

Nick Grundy

After a horrible day yesterday, listening to you two chatting while watching game of thrones was exactly what I needed to take my brain away from reality for a while. And I've still got the next episode to watch tonight! Thank you! Occasionally you might be more appreciated than you realise!

MabelandMargaret

This episode highlights why I hate Margery and also highlights people's hypocrisy towards women. Margery is every bit as conniving and trifling as Cersei but the ladies have ZERO empathy for Cersei while justifying the evils Marg pulls.

Athasin

Margery is more conniving than Cersei but I think that's why they like her. Like Ariana said ages ago (and what everyone says on the show) Cersei acts more clever than she actually is and when it fails she turns to cruelty, which is what makes liking her hard. Meanwhile Margery is just that clever and she doesn't resort to cruelty to get what she wants. That said, I do actually like Cersei. People demonize her but on the grand scheme of things, up until this point the only bad things she's done is sleep with her brother and have Robert killed and she only resorted to that because Ned was gonna rat on her and even he admits that Robert's wrath would follow if she fled. Can't blame her for how Joffery turned out he's a product of Jaime, Robert, and Tywin as much as he is her. And she truly believed that Tyrione killed her son.

Zane Platt

This is genuinely an insane comment. The idea that on a grand scale, she isn't that bad makes zero sense. She severely mistreated her brother from birth, fucked her other brother, had numerous people killed for her own selfish reasons, totally ignored her son's evil ways, advocated for the killing of numerous children, and so on. Even in a world like Westeros she is pretty much as bad as one can be. (as a side note, she probably has the worst personality in the entire series. Snide, stupid, manipulative, self-centered, constantly jealous etc. Even a sicko like Ramsey could muster charm and affability when he needed it)

Zane Platt

Huh? What evil has Margery committed within the series? Also, the reason people like her is because she isn't cruel, vindictive, incestual, violent etc. So it shouldn't be hard for anyone to see why she is significantly more liked than Cersei. The idea that her being manipulative makes her evil or anything like Cersei is a wildly bizarre take. Especially when you consider that characters like Varys and Tyrion are very much the same. It is literally the price of politics.

Joe Blankenship

Jorah & Tyrion is another good pairing of characters that I've been looking forward to revisiting.