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Game of Thrones 7x1-2 | Watch Along (Patreon)

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2025-04-10 14:00:10
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Game of Thrones 7x1-2 | Watch Along

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PurportedGrey

Ah yes, the beginning of the end—especially considering they split the last fully-written 13 episodes into two seasons. I’ve genuinely enjoyed y’all’s journey through this show. Those first four seasons are, hands down, some of the best television ever made, and its great to rewatch with reactors. I’ve loved watching y’all react to both its biggest moments and smallest moments. But at this point, I think I might just stick to watching or listening to your coverage instead of trying to watch along myself. And I say that as a huge A Song of Ice and Fire fan—these last two seasons, aside from a few standout moments, are almost unbearable for me. Fantastic acting (given what they were handed—no matter how talented an actor is, if the writing isn't there, there's only so much they can do. Just look at the behind-the-scenes footage and interviews from Seasons 7 and 8; the actors aren’t exactly thrilled. Emilia Clarke's red carpet interview is a prime example.) Fantastic production value all around (even if the creativity took a nosedive after Season 4. Still, the effort is evident—even if it’s not as inspired as those earlier seasons in terms of set design and costuming. Dragonstone is the one exception. Honestly, House of the Dragon nails the grandeur and creativity that ASoIaF has, especially in its production design.) Amazing direction, particularly from Miguel Sapochnik Godawful writing Those are the four pillars that define this "last season." I genuinely hope y’all enjoy this and dont wind up like alot us lol. As someone who’s been a fan of the books since my dad introduced me to them before S1 started—and as someone who was deeply invested in the show during those first four seasons (S5 was good they just ruined Dorne beyond comprehension) before the butterfly effect of the changes really started altering the story— you'll see why these final two seasons fractured the fandom. Thanks for reading my TEDRead! Lol

FW27

Theon is such a great character man. When he ran away, I wasn’t mad, I was just sad and disappointed. I just want better for the guy. Alfie Allen is always excellent.

Oscar H

Arianna is right about the recaps, they could skip it if its too in their faces but tbh its the end of the series so i don't think it'll matter either way

Vasili Brasinikas

The Sansa/Jon scenes at the start of the season are really frustrating. On the one hand, Jon (and Arianna) is right that Sansa should not be vocalizing her dissent in front of the other lords. But on the other hand, Sansa should not be finding out about Jon's plans at the same time as the other lords. Especially when those plans involve leaving her in charge. Like their disagreements are conversations that should definitely be happening, but behind closed doors before presenting a unified front to the other lords. I know it's done for dramatic effect and logistically you probably don't want to two separate scenes where Jon says what he plans to do and people disagree, but in the context of the story I don't think it makes much sense.

Oscar H

At this point in the show it moves from Fictional History and mystery to a sci-fi sort of thriller/drama. The recaps are evident of that so imo I think keeping it will give you guys an *authentic* experience like we all had when we were watching it at this point. When the finale comes around the recaps and inside the episodes from this point on will really add to whatever feelings you have about the writing at the ending

FW27

Very much agree. I can understand the first one with the Umbars and the Karstarks because we can at least pass that off as the first official gathering. Jon not telling Sansa ahead of time that she’ll be in power while he’s away is truly nonsensical. It’s particularly frustrating because he urges that he and Sansa need to trust each other in the S6 finale. I agree with his decisions in the context of the story, but the delivery of the decisions leave a lot to be desired.

Chris Bruneau

IMHO, Season 7 marks the beginning of a show without any novels to draw from, and it really shows. the show-runners basically do away with ALL constraints about time and distance, and people move like they have teleportation devices. I look forward to seeing if Arianna and Maple also come to believe the show dropped in quality. They might end up enjoying it more than I did. It kinda makes me sad, because I think GOT could have been SOOOO much better if they had not tried to cram 3 seasons of plot into 14 episodes.

Vasili Brasinikas

Exactly. I also feel like it's presented this way so they can keep cutting to Littlefinger in his corner looking devious. But that's even more reason for Jon to speak to Sansa in private. You cannot give that man an inch.

Christophe

Man they really dialed up the "yaaass queen" and "you go girl" moments in these last seasons ^^' we get it D&D, you think sassy girl-boss women are cool

Christophe

I know the writing is the main culprit in these last few seasons but one thing I always found like weirdly disappointing was the costume design, specifically how they're all suddenly wearing all black, all the time. Cersei, her Queensguard, Jaime, Daenerys, Tyrion, Varys, Euron, Sansa, even Missandei and Grey Worm. LIke what is going on? I get that they're going for like a moodier, darker cinematography overall in these last couple seasons but it's so weird how they all look like dark supervillains or something now, Idk, and the black leather/spandex look often really takes me out of the immersion here. You can make a case for Daenerys and Euron I suppose, since black is part of their main house colours, but even then, how about some red accents for Dany? How about some extravagant gold for the well-traveled sea pirate? The show used to be so colourful, it kind of all feels bland and dull and unstimulating on the eyes now, especially coupled with the extremely low colour contrast they're using a lot in these episodes.

Christophe

I always wonder how much better it would actually have been if D&D had not just gotten bored and wanted to do their Star Wars and stuff and wrap GoT up as quickly as possible. Because maybe it would have been a bit better? But then again, I definitely think they could have done more with the timespan they gave themselves? So who knows. It certainly couldn't have helped that at this point, they couldn't really be arsed anymore.

Elesh

One of my most favorite lines in the show. "Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe"

PurportedGrey

HotD would be that answer. Lol To be contradict myself though, S2 of that was on the level of S6/7 of GoT with its changes and story choices.

PurportedGrey

I know, I always think about The Blackfishes armor being so bad ass when he was introduced, but then D&D got in their head "oh they like people in dark armor... let's make everyone have dark armor!".

Adon Delgado

I don’t think it was cause they rushed it. They just ignored the story of the last 2 books. And they made that decision after season 4. Before they got any other deals. The disregard for the Martells, the Greyjoys and Aegon Targaryen was not going to allow for a satisfying ending. The level of contrivance you’d have to reach to complete the story without those elements is what we got in the show.

MabelandMargaret

I think considering what D&D changed the plot to have happen to key female characters I don't think they think they're cool so much as they thought it would "sell" to fans. Also, they're shit writers and had no source material at this point so it was lazy and ham fisted lol

Joe Blankenship

When I watched the first time, I liked seeing the recaps. Seeing something that you've already seen isn't exactly giving away something that you haven't seen.

OldManGrim

the Ed Sheeran appearance was insane on airing; people were like, what character is he supposed to be?

Joe Blankenship

Anybody else feel like Sam should have been wearing a mask for that procedure?

Miguel

Yes, that was Nymeria. I think you got it, but you'd be surprised how many reactors come to that conclusion, and then hear Arya say "thats not you" and change their minds, not catch that its Arya saying "thats not you" as in, Nymeria is no longer just her pet. She has her own pack to lead.

Athasin

I mean Jon wasn't proclaimed King of the North before they got into that room. That happened on whim thanks to Lady Mormont. He was made King right there and then made decisions right there.

Athasin

They're watching episodes back to back in less than a week. They remember vividly about the father and child because it happened a few months. For people who watched it live, that recap was between episodes that aired a year apart about something that happened 4 years ago.

Athasin

WAIT, I just realized that guy Sam talks to about the White Walkers over a dead body in the first episode, the Archemaester, is Professor Slughorn from Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. The casting crossovers between GoT and HP is kind of crazy.

Daymee

Is that bad? Personally, I fucking love it.

Daymee

I'm curious if after this series is finished, would you consider going into House of the Dragon, next? The first two seasons are out and I have no major complaints so far. But then again, I am in the vast minority who thinks Game of Thrones ending was fine and good. They just rushed it in my opinion. The final season is 6 feature-length-film episodes. Dial it back, give us 10 episodes with more story...anyway, I hope you enjoy the rest of this series, it's not as bad of an ending as everyone says!

Daymee

Totally agree about the teleportation thing, although I will point out, Varys goes from Mereen to Dorne to back to Mereen so he can be aboard a ship when she sails to Westeros in season six, that's, what, how? He should have just gone to Dragonstone! And also, the contentious conversation that Daenreys and Varys have at dragonstone, it's a little strange that conversation didn't come up on that whole long voyage at sea where they presumably just stood on the mast and stared forward. Sorry, now I'm just shitting on a show I really like. And I also agree with you on how they put too much plot into too few episodes.

Athasin

"That's not you." Parallels when Arya told Ned, "That not me." When he told her that she could grow to be a Lady, marry a Lord, and give birth to sons who will fight. That scene was Arya understanding that going back to to Winterfell with her wasn't something Nymeria would ever want.

Athasin

Rant: Honestly, Tyrion has always given bad advice. Seriously think about it, the only time his decisions as Hand/advisor has worked out is when his father intervened. As Hand he gave his niece to Dorne hoping to bridge the gap between the Martell's and the Lannisters after his father ordered the Martell's Princess to be raped to death and her children killed... Knowing that history he thought it was a good idea to send his niece there... And if we blame Cersei for Tommen's death, then we have to blame Tyrion for Mycella's. Then there was the decision of sending prostitutes to Joffrey which pushed him over the edge into psychotic sexual predator instead of just a psycho. The wild fire in Blackwater Bay was his only great decision because it bought them enough time for Tywin to show up and actually defeat Stannis' army. But without Tywin he still would've lost. Then you have him giving slavery back with the intention of slowly taking it away again... of course they decided to attack in force. It's like after forcing a drug addict into cold turkey withdrawals and then giving them back drugs, they're not going to stick around to be weened when they don't want to stop to begin with. And now you have this decision, to not attack King's Landing directly and avoid turning it into ashes... King's Landing isn't the entirety of Westeros. Part of it just got blown up and the rest of Westeros is still standing. Instead of going for the Capital, making an example out of it, and then demanding bent knees he advised going after one of the most powerful lands and taking it (as if other House's wouldn't be terrified their land would be next), and starving the Capital (whose people would suffer first, the most, before the royals felt a twinge of hunger). Even if the ambush that just happened, didn't happen, a siege of King's Landing by a foreign invader is a horrible decision. Tyrion may have had fun being Hand, but I disagree with everyone that he was good at it.

Christophe

I suppose any one instance isn't that bad, but when you do it all the time, with basically all the female characters except for like Gilly and Missandei, it just comes off as cringe and fan-servicey. To me at least. Idk, I feel like it flattens all the female characters. There have always been sassy women in the show (and books), like Cersei or Ygritte or Olenna, but there are different ways to write strong female characters. Like Catelyn. Or even pre-season 5 Arya. She was still sassy back then but she was also insecure and frightened, and not so fucking smug all the time. Or, in the books, Yara Greyjoy and Ellaria Sand (who are very different characters in the books). I think it just shows that D&D are not really capable of writing women in multiple, differenct, complex ways when left to their own devices. They're either sweet and demure and docile (like Gilly and Missandei) or unfeeling badass cool bitches, and that's basically the extent of it.

Chief Doodle

How do you question and challenge an order from your King in front of his own bannermen. You're not even being sly about it or using wording that would make it look like you are being subtle about it but straight up questioning his decisions. We have seen Jon literally behead someone for challenging his orders. Sansa did it TWICE and when Jon called her out, she brought up Joffery?? Like wtf are you saying maam. Also the Northerners who just proclaimed Jon "King" are chill with a woman who married a Lannister and a Bolton saying she wants to strip two children from ancient houses of their castles and give it to the Lords of the Vale? They don't protest that but Jon going to see Daenerys is when they protest. It doesnt make sense. Also I feel like I would not have a big issue with Sansa and the other Lords questioning Jon if it was on the basis that they dont believe him about the army of the dead. If they used that then this "nothing conflict" would make sense.

Christophe

I mostly agree though I think the reasons behind it are different in the early and in the late seasons of the show. I think a key nuance about Tyrion's character and his actions from the books was lost in the early seasons which contributed to his character assassination in the later ones. Specifically, that in the books, he was never really supposed to be that great. We see his actions as Hand in King's Landing mostly from his own POV and he's definitely very self-satisfied with all his doings but since it's Tyrion's POV, we're definitely meant to question that. But the show really doesn't. Plus they also cut out a lot of the dark, messed up stuff that Tyrion does, all of which led to him being portrayed as a much more heroic, well-intentioned person than he was supposed to be. In the later seasons, I think a couple things happened with Tyrion. First off, they established him now firmly as a good guy, which is inherently a bit more boring. Secondly, D&D just aren't up to snuff when it comes to writing smart, witty characters like Tyrion. And fair play, that's hard, it's hard to write smart characters, and GRRM could obviously take his time with writing him, but yeah, that's why his dialog often feels so dumb and cheesy in the later seasons, instead of witty and cutting like it was early on. But thirdly, the reason Tyrion's advice is bad in the later seasons is just because the writers needed it to be. The writers needed to delay Daenerys' attack on King's Landing because it WOULD have been too easy and they couldn't think of a smarter way of doing it.

Joshua Luzania

It's kind of a forced call back. After all Arya been thru, she wouldn't remember the exact wording. She coulda said "that's not who you are anymore, is it?" with a weak smile, n that'd work better

Joshua Luzania

Yeah and Mance is in HP toward the end, and the actor that plays Lunas dad is in HotD.

MabelandMargaret

I second that they should watch HotD. I do not agree the last two seasons are fine and good.

Pabb

Thinking GOT season was good sounds like having some kind of superpower only 0,000001% of the population possess.

Pabb

Yeah, they wrote stuff not because they liked it or because it was of good quality but because they wanted to pander to fans and their need to be surprised.

Patrick

I completely forgot Tommy Turgoose has a little part as one of the soldiers at the camp scene. Always happy to see a young actor from my hometown doing well.

Daymee

Yeah, and I get it. I mean look, I don't think they're stellar, I think they dropped the ball on a lot, I think there was too much hero armor going on, but I don't know, I'm easy to please I guess. I totally see the other side of the argument though. Seasons 1-6 were excellent, seasons 7&8 for me personally were just fine.

Jonathan Blaze

Kaleesi should have executed Tyrion when he restored slavery for 7 YEARS. That totally goes against her world view. At the very least he should have been permanently banished from her side. But what did the writers do after that? Made him her hand. If she got rid of him, his later stupid, terrible advice would not have pulled her down.

Jacob Livingston

Btw the hound didn’t kill that family. He just robbed them if you remember. They did die either freezing or starving like the hound predicted when he told Arya they wouldn’t make it past the winter

Aj

I hate to be a downer all the time about GoT, but this truly is the beginning of some of the worst TV ever created.

Heilige Taube

for me personally it was all fine except literally the very last episode. alltho i agree there is a drop off, but i would have been fine with all of it except the last ep in fact some of the humor in 7, 8 is as good as ever to me