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The Sopranos 3x4 | Watch Along (Patreon)

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2025-11-25 15:00:18
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The Sopranos 3x4 | Watch Along

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Athasin

Hands down my least favorite Sopranos episode, it just always felt unnecessary.

Katieee120

I assume I know what your referring to exactly and I think it's very neccessary because it puts us in her mindset of being so angry that we, along with Melfi are very much vouching for Tony to take the guy out, which makes the ending all the more powerful.

NF

Has the best line in the entire series. “No.”

Marcus Cato

It does force some of us in the audience to acknowledge something ugly in ourselves. For me personally, I would have liked for Tony to piece together what happened without Dr. Melfi having to tell him, without compromising her morality. Tony of course would then take the guy out. Those are some pretty challenging emotions to confront the audience with.

Chris Bruneau

that's an extremely disturbing episode to watch, for sure. I went back and researched what the show runners had to say about it, back then, and why they decided to depict such a graphic rape scene. Essentially two reasons: first, because they wanted to show just how brutal these assaults really are and how it can happen to anyone at anytime. Second, the writers wanted to show Melfi's power in having control of life and death over her rapist. She could easily have Tony murder him. But she chose the moral path and said "NO" --that is true strength --to spare someone who brutalized her instead of exacting well-deserved revenge.

Dan Sopranos

Good reaction Even if the guy who runs this channel probably told them about the (negative-event) beforehand because someone was crying about it One can only hope in the future the spoiling is kept to a minimum

Athasin

Agree to disagree because they could've done anything else to create a situation in which Melfi is put in a moral dilemma where she could ask Tony to commit a justifiable crime for her but she doesn't. They didn't have to choose that particular situation. Especially when it felt like they were only doing it to put to rest the idea that Melfi is morally corrupt for being Tony's therapist. It's the classic (and honestly) lazy, "let just use rape as a plot device to generate quick and easy sympathy from the audience" idea, older sibling to the equally lazy, "the audience thinks this villain is morally grey so let's just make him a rapist so they stop liking him" idea. But that's besides the point, what was most unnecessary about it, was that it shown on screen at all. The exact same plot could've happened with a fade to black or even a cinematic view of the closed stairwell door with audio playing.

Marcus Cato

I definitely agree to disagree, but one area where I don't disagree: I really feel like it didn't need to go on that long like that. That being said, I never felt like it was cheap, exploitative, or edgelordy. I think they did real justice to a genuine issue.

Diegesis

I didn't tell them what happened I just warned them that this season has two especially distressing episodes. I saw LM reactions see it and they were grateful for the heads up so i followed suit.

rebelgmg

we watch people die for less in this show. we barely know anything about them or they could even be major characters, but for this pos to live and go unscathed really pisses me off. I can agree with the words unnecessary and edge lordy. she is like the only good egg in the show and has to choose morality over vengeance why? why's that her choice to make out of all characters? smh so fucked up.

Raul Panzar

I don't think it does put to rest the idea that Melfi is corrupt. In the Sopranos even Melfi isn't perfect. Earlier in the episode she suggests to Tony that he is ready to take the next step in his therapy and start seeing a Behaviorist. But after Melfi's ordeal, when Tony agrees to do this, she immediately says no. Melfi finds comfort in the fact that she has the option to sic Tony on her assaulter and have him killed, even if she never chooses to exercise that option. Tony provides her a sense of security in that way. She doesn't want to lose him, so she tells him not to see the behavioris, even if that is the next step for Tony's well-being. So she does do something selfish, for her own sense of safety.

Marcus Cato

We've addressed the heavier stuff in other comments, so on a lighter note, the reaction to Janice's delusional BS in the hospital scene was pure reaction gold! Looking forward to a lighter day tomorrow with one of my favorited AD episodes.

SavyJones

Melfi was so close to breaking bad

nemnem

I don't think all of that is true. The sympathy is the complete opposite of quick and easy, it's expensively bought and difficult. That's why there's a long comment chain about it. cheap lazy and easy means you've forgotten about it the next day. It doesn't have the tone of something that was just done as some lazy throwaway thing. To call it unnecessary is to get it backwards. The 'point' of the episode is not to illustrate those things, the episode illustrates those things because the episode is how it is. That's not to say it's easy to watch at all, but art is not always made to be easy to watch. That's also not to say that just because something is hard to watch, that makes it good. The Dahmer show on netflix would be a good example of that. I feel bad for the people who worked on that show, because it looked like they made a huge effort, but the finished product just came off as snuff basically. I don't think this episode sinks quite that low. But I don't think it's perfect either. It's a weird adjective to use in the context, but the way they handle it feels mediocre. think they just about get their point across. But it doesn't feel like it got the deliberation needed when you're going to require that much of your audience. It feels half done, and it's really not the thing to get half done.

Marcus Cato

It is extraordinarily upsetting even by Sopranos standards, so I accept that it was Chad's call to make. However, the other commenter called out exactly what happened and exactly what episode it happened. That wasn't kosher.

Noah

They just don't make television at this level anymore. It invites so many nuanced opinions between viewers, but it’s completely unprepared to hand-hold unlike the majority of modern media. The number of double binds Dr. Melfi alone has to deal with in this one episode, paired with one of the best-constructed dream sequences ever put to screen, make this whole episode necessary. Any choice Melfi makes comes with a terrible psychological toll; in my opinion, her saying 'No' is a final grasp at reclaiming some agency In this situation and recovering from the gender dynamics emerging between her and Tony, not to mention the other men in her life. Great reaction as always, I couldn't agree more about the dream sequences having a certain 'buoyancy.' To me, the experience is like being on a raft in light but slightly uneasy chop on the ocean.