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SAW (2004) | Patreon Watch Along

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MiddayDisco

I had never seen Saw before so gave it a shot with you guys but had to stop watching half way through, what an artless, tasteless and horribly acted piece of garbage.

Franky E

Not everything’s for everyone

Chemical Em

A aussie horror (kind of) the writer and director are australians but couldnt get the movie produced in australia so went to LA. This was their first movie and was shot in 18 days. The 'low' budget (1mil) made $104 mil at box office and became the most profitable horror since scream. I remember watching this as a teen as soon as he said 'game over!' I screamed in the cinema, its so camp!

Chris Bruneau

good Halloween choice, girls! this is has both the twisty plot, and LOTs of gore (although, a little too much for me, actually)

Chemical Em

Horror movies are often linked to the social situations happening in the world. They say many horror movies of this 2000s era were influcenced by the abu ghraib and iraq war tortures we were seeing on the news .

Diegesis

This one definitely is under the camp category really nothing like it and definitely not for everyone we had to give it a chance too

Chemical Em

If you continue with this series it just gets more campy and wild!

Kevin Landon

I loved this as a kid when it came out, not so much these days, lol, still a nice twist at the end

Matthew Dillon

i love seeing people find that ending for the first time. the first two sequels are woth checking out for the endings alone if you guys continue with it

Elizabeth C

OMG Saw?? I've seen all of them and the last one that came out I watched with my sister.

Michael

Sadly, I was not surprised by this movie because I watch a lot of things and remembered the actor who plays Jigsaw/John, as well as his voice.

doomnuken

Movie critiques: great plot twist. Diegesis: The logistics and the theatrics!!!

Kyren Dunne

Are you guys going to watch the amazing spider-man movies then no way home

fromage

This wasn't as gory as I remembered!

Elizabeth C

I hope you guys as least watch the second movie, I wouldn't ask for you guys to put yourselves through the whole franchise but the second one is pretty good. I mean I love this series but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Ullrich Pfeiffer

It's the best horror film of its decade. It's good enough to birth an entire franchise of movies and essentially single-handedly creates escape rooms as an industry. You know, you can just say you don't like something without calling it artless or tasteless. Because it objectively isn't. A tiny indie movie hitting the zeitgeist like that is almost the defintion of an artsy little project hitting it big. And taste? Taste is just a word that people love to use when "I don't like it" sounds like the petulant tripe that it is.

Ullrich Pfeiffer

I love SAW. It has this repution as a gore-fest, but really, it is almost a very good soap opera. It has cheesy dialogue, a lot of characters and a hilarious twist. If you can accept all the gruesome murder, the soap-opera style is just too much fun. Crazy twists and interesting games, all tied together by a thriller murder-mystery. If you liked it this much, I would recommend the rest of the series. They are not as good, but they provide more of this very ingredients.

Tyler Foster

Saw was conceived by James Wan (who also directed) and Leigh Whannell (who also played Adam). They shot a short film version of it that they showed to investors to help raise the money to make it. In the end, the film was shot in a warehouse over the course of only 18 days, so the speed-ramping car chase was out of practical necessity -- the cars were not moving. The movie ultimately made $104m worldwide against a $1m budget, making it the Obsession of its day. I think the Saw franchise still may be the most profitable horror franchise of all time when calculating the investment versus the return. Leigh Whannell has since gone onto become a director himself. I would love to see you react to The Invisible Man (2020), directed by Whannell, this horror season, just to see one of the places he's gone from here. Cary Elwes, who plays Dr. Gordon, will forever be most famous for playing Wesley in The Princess Bride. He also has notable roles in Glory, Liar Liar, Twister, and Robin Hood: Men in Tights. It's funny that you mention Fast & Furious. 11 years after making his debut with Saw in 2004, James Wan would direct Furious 7 (2015), the entry that introduced Jason Statham and bid farewell to Paul Walker. Many remarked that it was funny his first film had a fake car chase and now he was making a F&F film. Although Seven was probably an influence another thing to remember about the movie is that the early 2000s was right around the time where elaborate computer color timing technology became available to filmmakers. Saving Private Ryan (1998), Pleasantville (1998), O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000), are other examples of movies from around this time that also probably played a part in Saw taking on such an extreme look, visually. Another reference point was probably the music video for Nine Inch Nails' "Closer," directed by Mark Romanek -- the composer for this film, Charlie Clouser, was a member of Nine Inch Nails for a period of time. Danny Glover's Tapp appears to die, but they later revealed the fate of his character in a video game where it turns out he actually lived. I think later movies contradicted it, but at the time it was meant to be canon. Although the story will not have closure this way, I love the Saw franchise in almost the exact same way as the F&F movies, with its convoluted story and recurring characters and ridiculous retcons, so while you may not think you'll like them, you actually might. I like or love the first six, with the sixth probably being the best entry in the whole franchise. Unfortunately, around this time, they started getting clobbered by Paranormal Activity at the box office, and they hastily combined the planned final two into one and have never recovered. Last but not least, if you really want to know where Saw comes from culturally, many people have observed that they fit into a subgenre of post-9/11 film, where a cancerous madman is enacting torture on essentially innocent people, interrogating people on their ideas of ethics and morality. You've got characters covered in dust and blood and the grime of collapsing buildings, that kind of thing. Probably not entirely conscious on the part of the filmmakers, but something that was in the societal air.

Teyon Alexander

Adam was given a key to the chains on his feet from the outset. It just happened to go down the drain.

Athasin

Reminder that it was made with a $1M budget, that's it. Yet grossed over $100M because yeah back in 2004 it was that iconic. Since then we've had better horror movies but a lot of them have been influenced by Saw.

Daymee

This was a fun watch. I don't feel like it was artless. There were camera and acing choices that felt very deliberate. The cinematography knew what to focus on. There were transitions meant to confuse you, that were later clarified. Cary Elweys does an amazing job of slowly breaking down mentally, remember, this is the same actor who plays Wesley in "The Princess Bride" and Robin Hood in "Robin Hood, Men in Tights". I'll stop defending this movie there, but like, it's not garbage-y shit. It did horror movie stuff and took it to 11 on a tiny budget and I only started getting the twist endings after the 4th one. None of them are great films, but, it's fun for spooky season.

Diegesis

I mean it seems to have defined a whole franchise! That's a big deal! I wouldnt say it is artless. Definitely camp now! Defined in its own lane! No one could out saw saw this movie is a classic

Lily

Imo you're exactly tapped in to what makes Saw such a delight, it is so campy and outrageous and the logic only gets more baffling from here. Definitely agree with others that if nothing else, the first three are worth a watch, because oh boy if you thought THIS one was bonkers...

clexkate

ahhh this movie was James and Leigh's first baby and it had a whole cult following. really glad you guys enjoyed it! it hasn't aged super well but oh boy was it iconic back in the day. there was nothing else like it!

Diegesis

truly like its own mini universe

Tim

This is an objectively solid movie, but the sequels are more or less an excuse to showcase gore for maladjusted cretins.

Pyt

I remember the first two Saw movies and Hostel specifically where the reason why I got so spooked off horror for like a decade lol. Now its back to being my favorite genre, and I can't believe how tame these movies actually are.

JC

I took a class on horror films in college and we talked a lot about how horror films reflect the cultural fears of the time they're made. One of the papers we had to write was about an original horror movie and it's remake and what was happening culturally to necessitate the remake, or what was changed to reflect the modern fears. It was the most fun I ever had writing a paper lol

JC

+1 for The Invisible Man

your local cryptid

it's super interesting how true that is. the whole backrooms/uncanny spaces horror trend right now feels very connected to the anxiety around AI and this broader sense that reality is becoming harder to trust