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WAIT WHAT? THERE WAS ANOTHER KID? YUP, THIS KID DYING FOR SURE LMAOO CALLING IT RIGHT NOW!

ONE MORE COMING RIGHT UP! <3

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Mike G. M.

Quick fun fact: the Japanese VA for Sabo here is the exact same actress that has voiced Naruto Uzumaki since 2002~

Loro

By the way, Sabo has kid Naruto’s voice actor

Dr. M (Mrugalski)

Ultimately I agree with you about Garp, but I don't think you're seeing it from his perspective. As someone involved in law, image if you were a judge and your child/grandchild committed a crime. Would you downplay your ruling on their case or risk your job/life to break them out? If so, then you would not be carrying out "justice". He told them time and time again to not be pirates, but that's what they did. And even if the Gov is hilariously corrupt, Ace and Luffy broke their BS World-Gov rules and were charged with crimes. Garp is one of the highest ranking marines, famous as the hero of the Navy. He has certain responsibilities/obligations. That being said, I agree he should have abandoned all that to help his family. Many parental figures would in this situation, but Garp didn't sacrifice everything. He cried/anguished over what was happening and even let himself get knocked out of the way so at least he was not actively standing in their way. That was probably the most he could come to terms with doing. Imagine you tell your child every day to not steal, but they keep getting in trouble all the time for it. At some point you're gonna say to yourself "I'm sad for my boy but this is on him and its the consequences of their actions". You were so mad at SKRAAB for turning on his own side, but Garp should have done the same and gotten a pass? Maybe he thought this was Ace's deserved punishment. Maybe he knows some things that you don't know about yet. Asking him to turn on the Navy would be asking him to abandon his morals/ethics and something he believed in for his whole life/career. The Gov is super evil, but so are a lot of pirates who the Navy battle against. Not saying white beard crew was evil, but they were a yonko crew attacking a gov facility, meaning the Navy had to defend hard to maintain their sphere of influence in the grand line. Of Garp should have helped Ace, but Garp ain't perfect. As evidenced by him leaving his grandkids with mountain bandits lmao. All I'm saying is, there is at least some reasoning there for why he didn't intervene more. Even though he definitely should have IMO

AccordingToLucky

Again, its not a good comparrison. U cant dumb down the situation and say, oh its the same if u r a cop or a judge and your kid is a criminal. Its not the same. Their world has powers, that changes things. Their world has options. Also, in their world, we know everything. We know who the scumbags are, who arent. We know all of this, and yet u r still willing to defend Garp allowing the sick government to do that to his grandkids? Hell nah

Dr. M (Mrugalski)

Like I said, I personally think he should have intervened. Even so, I dont think its a dumbed down comparison to say a high ranked Navy officer has obligations to their organization just because powers exist. We know who the scumbags are, but you aren't caught up in the story. And the story isn't finished. We do not know everything and its not as black and white as you think it is. Garp made the wrong choice here, but in my opinion he isn't one of the scumbags you mention.

AccordingToLucky

I never said he was one of the scumbags. Im just saying he is a shitty grandpa who choose work over family. He probably a great marine, but a shitty grandpa. And thats just it, u r talking from knowing the whole story, and im just talking based on where i am in the story. If the story changes, my mind might also change.

Dr. M (Mrugalski)

Thats facts lmao, he is a shitty Grandpa for sure. There is no denying he chose work over family. I just want to see your beef end with him one day.

AccordingToLucky

Then we can agree! Also, i dont dislike his character! I just lashed out cuz i expected more from him. I will still enjoy him on the screen, might roast him a little bit, but he is still badass to me! And i wanna know how strong he really is!

g27

What the hell why am I hearing Naruto😂