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Nicholas Kent

An average fish-man is 10x stronger than an average human. But so many humans have trained to become pirates or marines on the surface that many of them are much stronger than most fish-men (plus a lot of them get Devil Fruit powers). Luffy's probably 50x stronger than King Neptune. Why would fish-men be strong? They're locked away on their segregated islands. The strongest ones we've ever known were all kids from the district because it was the hood xD

AccordingToLucky

Yea, but they are naturally stronger. So im saying, how come there wasnt a single dreamer kid who went outside ( the surface ) and became strong af! Lol

g27

On your point on why there aren’t prodigies from Fishmen island. There are 5 million Fishmen and mermaids on the island, while humans are billions. So you’d definitely get at least 4 individuals that are emperors you know.

Nicholas Kent

Well, there was Fisher Tiger, but he ended up a slave xD Again, it's difficult for a fish-man to live on the surface. Except maybe for Tom in Water 7 because he lived on an island of shipwrights and his skill was respected

AccordingToLucky

I mean thats fair, but they are also genetically stronger on average, 10 times at that! So there should be at least one crazy mf that trained like Rock Lee and developed godly powers. But apparently, they dont have that in the history of their existance lol They need to step up💀

AccordingToLucky

Yea, but come on, i need a crazy ass fishman with a goal like Naruto to become a god lol Cant believe in their whole history, Fisher Tiger was the strongest mf they got 😮‍💨 Skypiea has less citizens that Fishman and they had FUCKING ENEL lol

g27

Well you said prodigies, anyone can train, but not anyone can be as strong. So it’d be rare to find Roger level fishmen because that probability is extremely low in the human population, what would you think on the Fishmen population? It’s lower than most countries today, it’s just 5 million, haven’t reached double digits. Humans are billions with an S for plural lol.

TRG

watch the opening is been safe for awhile, and some of the openings before the time skip

g27

You can’t bring up devil fruits when you’re speaking about prodigies between the two species. Your only arguments are against people like Shanks, Roger, Whitebeard, Mihawk, Garp, Shanks’s crew, (did Shiki the lion have a DF?), Reyleigh, etc.

Nicholas Kent

Yeah but Skypiea citizens have Devil Fruit powers and can travel wherever they want. Enel wasn't even from Skypiea.

g27

When you said there isn’t much fighting in this arc, well there isn’t much fighting in One Piece really. Fighting does exist but “Action” isn’t a core part of the show. I see how all the hype of different characters are on their reputation, not their actions. It’s true. It’s been half the show, hundreds and hundreds of episodes, and we hadn’t seen shanks fight, kizaru, aokiji, mihawk, Garp, Marco didn’t show us anything, Dragon just exists, Law, etc etc. They do show us their powers but they don’t have much “Action” in that sense, they don’t even break a sweat. It’s like Ben Beckman, we don’t know what this guy even does, it’s all reputation. Roger, reputation. Mihawk, reputation. In other shows, for example Naruto, when Madara came back to life he was fighting until he died LOL. Yeah Naruto had “Action” as a core part of the show, I think all other shows are similar, like JJK, and whatever else you saw. But in One Piece, people hype on character reputations more.

AccordingToLucky

My country is like 6 mil and we have generationally the best sportsman in the world lmao Today and through history lol Fishman are 10 times stronger from the start, and they dont have a single strong person? Strong enough to make some commotion? I get what u r saying, but its still weird 💀

g27

That’s sports, that’s specific, we’re talking about something general not specific. Fishmen are 10x stronger than an AVERAGE human, who’s an average human? A guy from a village selling tomatoes. They don’t have a single person who’s a prodigy because the whole species is living in that island and it’s 5 mil. I agree it would make sense if at least one guy in the history of Fishmen was actually strong. Well you have the princess but she’s more of a prophecy right? Jimbei is really strong he blocked Akainu’s punch with his bare hands, obviously stronger than Fisher Tiger who died from navy soldiers. Jimbei actually got the Whitebeard treatment from Akainu and survived (mainly because of Law). Even in the humans, the probability is so low that you can count the strongest individuals with your fingers, like Mihawk, Roger, Shanks, etc; and they’re in the billions with an “s” for plural. So even with that much people you only got those few individuals, but I agree with you, there should be someone in history that was at least considerably strong. It should’ve been Davy Jones 😭

AccordingToLucky

Ace was an avarage human before he started to train. Also, this is specific, im looking for a strong fishman with ambition xd Skypea had Enel! And they are less than Fishman island

g27

Ace had conqueror’s haki he ain’t average, and he’s weak without his devil fruit, if he didn’t have his devil fruit and relied on using his father’s genes he would’ve been a beast like shanks. And Enel has a devil fruit, how is he part of the argument? You can give his devil fruit to a fishman and he’d be overpowered in the sea since water conducts electricity. So it’s the devil fruit not the difference of two species. But yeah still strange no fishman even has the ambition to become just as strong as some humans.

g27

Kuma also has a devil fruit. He didn’t train to become this strong as a human, he got magical powers and trained that. It’s not like Mihawk who took this world head on. So even in humans, it’s actually extremely rare to get a guy like him, and humans are Billions!

LazySugarLover

You gotta annoy him on it for him to watch.

LazySugarLover

Ace had Conqueror's Haki but never even knew he had it so he couldn't use it.

g27

Nonetheless he was weak without his devil fruit because he relied on that for his strength instead of his inherited powers. Whitebeard has a devil fruit but he didn’t neglect his other side. Basically Ace is wasted potential because he could’ve been as strong as Shanks, way stronger than Luffy, because Shanks learned from Roger, Ace learned from no one, but he’s his father’s descendent and literally has the pirate king’s Haki. Luffy has dragon and dragon uses devil fruits, Ace actually has extreme potential but he didn’t get the chance to be trained like Luffy by Reyleigh. Lucky’s argument is that arbitrarily anyone who just “trains” can get as strong as anyone how ever they like. Like it’s linear on how much you just train. Some people are talented, they can train less than others and be stronger, or train just as much as others and be stronger. You can’t be “god level” (as he stated) by just freakin training?Fishmen are stronger than AVERAGE humans not emperors, but to get someone as strong as the emperor’s by shear endogenous strength should be extremely rare since that probability is insanely low for humans, and humans are many times more than Fishmen, Fishmen and mermaids are just 5 mil, that’s it.