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Scammer training material (Patreon)

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2019-06-27 11:59:08
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2026-06
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I found this audio file on the PC of the group who sent me a fake order email (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG-KjCSt14k). It's almost identical to the scam that I encountered in that video, so I think it's been used to "train" scammers into how to run this kind of scam.... what language to use, when to pause and pretend to look up an order system etc.

I don't know the outcome of this scam - the audio cuts off, but I hope that she wasn't scammed.

Even if you don't listen to all of the audio (it's over 1 hour), I just want to highlight a few points in the audio which are particularly scary. From the 09:00 - 11:00 mark, the scammer really tries the scare tactics and starts the usual lies when he has remote access at the 21:40 - 22:35 mark. 

The woman plainly doesn't understand what is happening 38:57 - 40:06 and the scammer takes full advantage.

The victim is plainly scared throughout the entire scam.

So if you were wondering how scammers train themselves up on running scams, it's probably through audio like this.

Comments

Mostafa

Ruthless. Destroyed me when she started crying saying she was scared, and he said she was in "safe hands." Breathed a sigh of relief when she said her boyfriend worked for Dell.

Melissa Miles

I just wanted to thank you again and let you know I am now a proud patreon gold member. I truly appreciate the bright light you shine on the parasites that try and feed on us all. If you ever need anyone to do some grunt work for you I am available.

Jim Browning

Thank you Melissa. I'll be running a number of gold live streams shortly. Hopefully they will suit your timezone. Jim

Jim Browning

Yes - if find you do have to have a certain ruthless mindset to be a scammer. I don't know how most of them sleep at night. Desperation is one thing, but I believe most are not in this game because they're forced. :(

Scott Schuyler

New patreon here. I hope you reach your ultimate goal. We need more government involvement on stopping these scammers. But in the meantime, we need more people like you. Our cyber guardian angel.

Stuart

Hello Jim. It is great to communicate with you. I have been a computer security consultant and a Dr in cryptology. I spent most of my life working for the Royal Navy and the Ministry Of Defence. I have a great deal of admiration for the moral standards and level of self control you exercise. Sadly I am only able to pay a small monthly amount in as I am currently bed bound with spinal injuries and awaiting surgery. As I do not have my servers active I am unable to maintain an income currently. If my servers were active I would most certainly assist you with a larger payment along with the exclusive use of one of my servers. If I can help or assist you in any way please do not have any hesitation in contacting me. I do have some military contacts and some in the police force. Also if I am able to assist you with any technical issues I most certainly will. Watching your uploads I can see you are very experienced technically but if I can help I will be more than happy to do so. As I am currently bedbound and have no mobility at all I have nothing but time on my hands so please do not feel you are disturbing me in any way whatsoever. You should be proud of what you do and I only wish I could give a greater financial commitment to your worthy cause. I wish you all the very best my friend. Stuart.

Jim Browning

Stuart, Thank you so much for getting in touch. I hope you're able to regain your mobility soon. It must be torture to be bed bound. I hope the surgery goes well. Thanks too for the sponsorship and offer of servers. At some point in the future, I would like to host a fake bank server, ideally with some function, but obviously no real real money involved. I know Kitboga uses such a fake bank. They are always useful for wasting scammer's time, but equally, they can be used to expose their tactics. Anyway, it's one for the future. Thanks again for reaching out to me. Regards, Jim

Stuart

You are more than welcome, I only wish I could be of more help. I have a VPS server that needs putting back in the rack and wiring up but my GBIC cables are missing and I am in no condition to go on a cardboard box hunt ;-) I am sure we can come up with a bank that functions perfectly well. I have a forum for buying stolen credit card details on a VM running on Apache with mysql on unix I made a few years back that's basically a honeypot that has a little covert poke about using NMAP and just sits there sucking all the info it can. I am sure a nice high street bank gui could be lifted and put on top. We could just run the VM when scammers connect and put an entry for natwest.com in the host file pointing it to the server. I am sure we could get that working when I can get an active box. I have a 16 IP block and 100Mb synchronous internet connection so I am sure we could put a few scumbags out of business. I very much look forward to it. I will have to get my private signal server up and running. I am supposed to be going in to have my titanium metal work sorted as the screws have come out of the bone. Still at least now you can put your hand on heart and say you have really spoken to someone with a screw loose ;-D My surgery has been put on hold as they found MRSA during my pre-op so now I have a week of scrubbing a nice caustic chemical into my skin and a gel up my nose ..... Yuck

David

I blame Indias ineffectual police Depts who do almost nothing nor does the Indian Govt. if Jim can find them so can the Indian Govt but for some unknown reason they are not interested in stopping them. Older American are the typical victim and its maddening.

David

Jim, the queen should knight you Sir Jim the defender of the Realm.

Casy Byrd

Jim, is there an email to get in contact with you.

Paul Jones

Up to the left, under Jim's name, click the circle with 3 dots ... That will let you message him through patreon.

Casy Byrd

Ya I found it later that night

Curt Bhikha

Hi Jim how does one contact you regarding, getting some help? I have not paid anything to you as yet, but we desperately need your help, so we will be willing to do anything. We are from in south Africa, and are really at wits end with our situation.

ninjarobot

Hi Jim, I just joined and find your material fascinating! Thank you for providing insight into the inner working of these scammers.

ninjarobot

Btw, there is a phone support scammer on YT which has been irking me for a while. You can see some of their scam channels/videos if you search for one of their phone numbers: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=6289042467 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=6289092937 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=6289380996 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=7544075738 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=8101824071 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=9162206795 etc. Perhaps good material for a future investigation? :)

Jim Browning

Interesting. It may be for Search Engine Optimization though rather than a scam in their own right. I think they do this to get higher up on Google's rankings. I've seen that before. If you create web pages, reddit notices, PDF files, images etc with "xxx support number", you'll climb up Google's rankings. Judging my the views of these YouTube pages, they couldn't rely on this alone for generating calls. Thanks for this though.

ninjarobot

Agree that there is an SEO part to this, but I'm pretty sure it is a scam. What they are doing is creating playlists with the scam number in the title. But they put good videos from other creators in the playlist. This way they create a 'legit' association between the video and the title. At least that is what I think is going on. They also have tons of accounts, and provide support for nearly everything, Banks, Google Pay, etc. Wouldn't that be a bit unlikely? And why are they using regular consumer phone numbers in India to take these customer care support calls?

Russ Walker

Wow this just makes me reiterate in my head that as soon as I have more money I will up my tier level as high as I can afford just to help as many people get their money back as we can. I don't have the skills to personally stop any of these guys so I'm really glad for the opportunity to crowdfund with everyone. Thanks Jim you're a legend!

Anonymous
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Immigrating from an undeveloped and probably corrupted country myself (I was born in Vietnam).. I would think the police does not have much of an incentive to bust the locals.. since their revenue benefit the country and its citizens.

Anthony Womersley

I agree with Russ, Sorry not more as now retired due to ill health.

jeff sheppard

Just got a scammer trying to contact me via a Family members account in Messenger for a grant scam. They left a number and the email address to obtain the grant. If you’re interested and we passing this along to you so you can play with them – let me know.

Jim Browning

Hi Jeff, Please do email me this... jimbrowning@fastmail.fm. I tend to steer away from these types of scams because they rarely make a computer connection and I can't then find out more about who they are. But I'll take a look. Thanks

Josuah Duffy

If this is the training Audio , this scammer sounds hopeless, bad explanations ridiculous reasoning, badly worded poor timing. A person with half a brain cell, who is not "English second language" . could do so much more damage.

Josuah Duffy

oh , I just got to the bit where she is crying.. this is so painful,knowing she is interacting with the very person she is scared of .I am so disgusted with this "person" i wish karma was a real thing .i hope

PapiKink

7:12 “Funny” how they are using the anti-Mexican hysteria during Trumps presidency to really sink this one in.

PapiKink

I listened to the entire hour and change recording and agree that anyone can be scammed, but gawdamn, a little bit of common sense and instinct goes a long way! Sheesh! When they change the prices and change the terms of the coverage, it’s suspect enough to reconsider their validity. But great find Mr. Browning. Definitely a good study guide.