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Scamming the scammers: How scammers innovate (Patreon)

Published:
2020-06-29 20:19:58
Imported:
2026-06

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I did an hour long podcast interview with David C Luna recently. Click the link above if you'd like to listen to the interview.

Alternative links:

 𝐢𝐓𝐮𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐋𝐢𝐧𝐤: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/innovational-correctness/id1489105172?l=en#episodeGuid=07783172-a945-4049-ae38-af4040a6c232  

𝐒𝐩𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐲 𝐋𝐢𝐧𝐤: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0guJfhrxhnbv0FsuGWPIX2?si=UfVOCHlsQvmXNKU1pJOPfA  

𝐆𝐨𝐨𝐠𝐥𝐞 𝐋𝐢𝐧𝐤: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS9qczFLNm5rUg/episode/MDc3ODMxNzItYTk0NS00MDQ5LWFlMzgtYWY0MDQwYTZjMjMy?ved=0CAkQ38oDahcKEwiw9JHnxqfqAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBg  

𝐒𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝗡𝗼𝘁𝗲𝘀 https://www.gammabeyond.com/en/podcast/012-scamming-the-scammers-how-scammers-innovate-w-jim-browning/ 

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#012 - Scamming the Scammers -How Scammers Innovate /w Jim Browning

In this episode I talk to Jim Browning and cover some of the following topics: What types of scams there are, how they work and how my guest fights back, Why fighting scammers isn't as fruitless as you might think, How my guest infiltrated a large-scale technical support scamming operation

Comments

Mohamed Imran Noorgat

Fantastic awareness raising. I had no idea that you had to sit on the recordings for Panorama for so long! Now that's patience. Also, I liked the call to action at the end, it was clear and I believe anyone who listens to this podcast will feel empowered. Only thing missing (you covered so much), was the gift card approach used by scammers. Thanks for sharing, and catch you in Gotham City! Lol.

LizzyC

Just listened. I absolutely love it! I can't wait for the Kitboga collab (been waiting patiently for that day and the excitement hasn't died down at all). I love what you do and I have learned so much about these types of scams. I was sent too much money for a wedding dress I was trying to sell, in the form of a suspicious looking check, and I immediately knew it was a refund scam. I went to the bank and they confirmed the check was a fake. So glad I didn't fall for that!

MaggieMay

Very enjoyable podcast, and I too am breathless with anticipation for a Jim B and Kitboga session!

Paul Ferguson

Hi, I’ve seen videos on how the tech support scam works with computers, I’m just wondering how the same scam works with mobile phones / tablets (Apple/Android)? Do they get people to install teamviewer or similar and take control of your device? If so it is a scary thought.

JimBrowning

Hi Paul, The scams do work on Android and iOS. I've seen scammers use TeamViewer on both type of device. Sometimes it makes their life easier because they can quickly view the installed apps and will actively seek out any online banking apps. They will quickly direct their victims to use the installed app. Scary indeed!

Stephen J Powell

I wonder if there are any UK based English sounding scammers? Seems like an obvious progression since accent plays a large part in the scammer profile at the moment.

Craig Browning

They definitely have scam centers that target UK. Don't think they have the accent though, just Indian accent.

Zach Hoy

I was victim to a boiler-room operation run by very knowledgeable Australians. Spoke to 5 people in that operation over the 6-month period before learning I was being scammed, all were very intelligent, older, and knowledgeable, and most importantly, definitely native speaking Australians (possibly one Kiwi). This was my motivation to join the good side of this battle.

Stephen J Powell

That's not good, did you lose much? About 10 years ago a mate of mine was getting scammed in a similar way, except they were UK based and English sounding. He kept investing more and more, every time he suggested withdrawing they would suggest instead that he reinvested in something else. Eventually they disappeared...think they got him for 20k.

Darren Bown

Might it be possible to bait them using an emulator in a Devkit?

governmentjuice

I’ve noticed a recent trend where people from the eastern world, even just from eastern europe, are impersonating british accents. It’s rampant on youtube.

Tom McNulty

What do you do if a scammer claims to have a video of you pleasuring yourself & threatens to expose you unless you pay $700.00 I did delete the email but might be able to find in delete folder. Thanks

adam heeley

Whether they have the video means nothing if dont have a way to show it to the people you know, which is impossible. From now on send email scams to me @rescam.org

MichealinaAnth1

I sent couple of messages to Jim recently, I’m not sure he got them. I’m new.

Sibbo

If you believe they do......cover your webcam when not in use (electrial tape does a treat, or desktop just unplug it) they legally speaking are actually commiting a crime well multiple, blackmail, extortion, unauthorised access to your device as well probably many more. If you are asking just for a way to annoy them Id play along, Id engineer them into potentially showing you the alleged video, or details entailing it dates, times etc, these you can use to get them to show you if they do have it as you can say oh so that day at that time I was actually at work, I work in a mine so I do not get a second of time to access even just a phone.... While its possible its unlikely unless you have been to many unsavoury insecure websites and gotten a little worked up even then....700 seems rather lowball if it were true, thats another thing, like the refund scammers do like 2 grand, they roll that out all the time, so its unlikely but certainly worth indulging them and screwing with them if you are using a VM with a vpn no shared file folder between devices. but as above said that is literally the best thing to happen in retaliation to scammers, it does a kitboga without kitboga via email. If in doubt with your winky out, shield your webcam.... hahaha theres a reason zuck and others do it, it does happen, but its usually personal vendetta not so much oh look here a guy I dont know or know anyone he does is in a grainy vieo tossing I will go for 700.