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US citizen scammed by fake Lynne (Patreon)

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2021-09-10 17:54:37
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If you can't access the video from Patreon directly, this is the link: https://youtu.be/W8nlHSQ0Djw

As the public version of fake Lynne goes live, I though I'd upload a further video for you, my supporters. So this is a silver+ patron only video and shows more of 'Fake Lynne' scamming a US citizen who resides in the UK. (The patron version of previous video can be found here: https://youtu.be/hx4fvTGCj84)

I've held back on the editing here (just enough to safeguard the victim and fake Lynne), but it should show you the language and techniques used by scammers. You'll see 'Lynne's PC as she scams this man, so you can see the prompting by the scammers and the mule bank account details as they type them out.

I tried to stop this scam by calling this man, but he had already transferred the money using telephone banking. Not only did he ignore my warning, but he told the scammers all about me. Shortly after this, I lost access to fake Lynne's PC.

This is one of the reasons why I don't typically use 'Jim Browning' when speaking to victims.  It's much longer than the other video (over 1 hour), but it will show in detail just how she manipulates this 86yo man.

You can't save them all.

The eventual outcome was that this man was able to recover his money (£6,500 or around $8,000) from HSBC once he finally figured out that it was a scam.

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US Citizen scammed by fake Lynne

This is a silver+ patron only video and shows more of 'Fake Lynne' scamming a US citizen who resides in the UK. I tried to stop this scam by calling this man, but he had already transferred the money using telephone banking. Not only did he ignore my warning, but he told the scammers all about me. This is one of the reasons why I don't typically use 'Jim Browning' when speaking to victims. It's much longer than the other video (over 1 hour), but it will show in detail just how she manipulates this 86yo man. You can't save them all.

Comments

Leslie Brown

Did U lose control of Fake Lynne's PC for good? Or did U find another way in?

Anonymous

When you say the old man "recovered his money from HSBC", do you really mean that the bank paid him back out of their own pocket, and the scammers have actually got away with his money?

Yaro Kasear

You know how many people would probably be saved by being properly educated about IP addresses and how they properly work? While I won't say a hacker getting an IP address is good, it's not super helpful for most hackers to only have an IP address, and chances are a hacker probably won't even make learning one's IP address that high a priority since on its own an IP address is pretty useless. At most a hacker would be able to DDoS unless whoever has that IP address is just opening ports all willy-nilly and having buggy software listening to those ports. They definitely aren't "unique" to an individual and get reassigned very frequently, and they definitely don't belong to the end user. Even more ridiculous is this notion that if someone has your IP address they somehow have access to your personal and financial information. In reality, IP addresses don't have ANY user information associated with them. WHOIS only details the information on the ISP that actually owns the IP address. The most "personal" info an IP address might give up is some frankly inaccurate geographical information about the ISP's local office location. You might figure someone's from a particular country or state or city, but that's it. tl;dr IP addresses aren't secret or even that sensitive. Sure, you don't want to throw your IP address around but chances are if someone gets it they can't really do anything with it. A common scam seems to be making the rounds on Discord that someone gets their victim's IP address, then uses what little info they can get from WHOIS to try and convince their victim they know where they live by telling them their city (Since there's a good chance the ISP's office location is the same city as the victim.) or even using something like Grabify to mine information a web browser loves to give up about victims as well. Scammers are definitely guilty of spreading misinformation about IP addresses, but I also lay a lot of this blame on VPN providers who want to sell solutions that VPNs don't actually solve. They have a profit motive to also spread a lot of misinformation about IP addresses, and you'd be surprised how often when you read VPN marketing materials how much their pitch sounds like the exact same things scammers say about IP addresses. Frankly, the only reason you would want to obfuscate your IP address is: 1. You're trying to bypass region/geographical locks on sites like Netflix. 2. You're trying to remain anonymous, which would also require a lot more than just hiding your IP address as this won't help you if you log into something with an existing account anyway. 3. You're notable enough that you'd probably be way more likely to be targeted by DDoS if your IP address gets out there. A protip: If someone is threatening you with your IP address and says something like they'll hack you unless you give them money, or even says they already have your information and try to extort you, bear in mind that if they had the skills to compromise you and steal your identity or financial credentials, they wouldn't be wasting time talking to you, they would just go drain your bank accounts and lock you out. There'd be literally no reason to bother with alerting you to the "fact" you've been compromised, as that'd just motivate their victim to do something about it. But if they're aware they don't have anything beyond something that can vaguely make them seem credible about having your details and that's it, they know you're simply ripe for extortion. First, just report them to whoever is in charge of administrating wherever they're threatening you on. Then I'd suggest messing with them or even just challenging them to give you any details whatsoever about you, like a mailing or street address, your name or your phone number. Something that your IP address WHOIS info or user agent string would simply not have at all.

Oana

A partially disabled person who wrote 14 books being so shamelessly scammed by this specimen is making my blood boil…

TheDeadSkeletonShow

I don’t understand how the police determined “she was easily influenced and naïve”?? She’s saying she’s Dame Lynne Owens??! Well. Hell! *using fake Lynn’s voice* I’m Catherine Middleton and I need money for my husband, The Duke of Cambridge. Yea? You might know him as Prince William to fund projects through The Royal Foundation. You’ve been hacked. I am who I am. They’ve stolen your IP address…your bank is.. *reading the script from INDIA* I hope she gets thrown in prison, naïve or not! Signing off, Katie Middleton.

Anonymous

It's always unfortunate to hear when the victim is so convinced that they shame even the notion that they may be taken advantage of. I understand it's hurts the ego knowing you've made such a potentially grave mistake. But to be so arrogant that you actually rat out the one person telling you to not transfer money to ANYONE regardless of who they claims to be, is just sad. I hope they now understand who was the good guy here and that they aren't invincible. Anyone can get scammed. Good work as always, Jim. Frustrating about losing a lead due to trying to do the right thing though.

Craig Browning
>>67578791

Let's hope it means they were able to reverse the transfer, and Jim confirms what happened.

Paula Hernandez

This is a SCAM that focuses on money. I feel sorry for the ppl that are victims b/c they're naive. However, I've watched Romance SCAMS and have little sympathy for the 'victims' b/c they 'give' their money to Scammers. There are so many SCAMS out there, it's become a Whack-a-Mole game. Just like beggars on the corner, the more you give them, the stronger you make them (and more of them).

Craig Browning
>>67582123

Maybe the scammers should be aimed at the police involved, so they can have more sympathy.

Steve Jones

You know.. regarding the question whether this "low level" scammer should be prosecuted, or considered another "victim" of the head scammers, I am even more adamant that she should be prosecuted after hearing this. Several times during this video, she represented herself as law enforcement. She is NOT just a victim - She is impersonating a police officer in the process of committing fraud - She should be in jail just as much as the scumbags she's working for.

Joseph Brzezinski
>>67586153

I thought the same thing after watching the previous video... I haven't seen this yet, but I just listened to her, and thought, there's no way she is "just" a victim...

Lois Plone

I found this very frustrating. I wanted to call this man and tell him to listen to himself and this women! She contradicts herself constantly.

Anonymous

She is no victim, and the victim is just an idiot imo

Akilan Narayanaswamy
>>67593066

I don't think he was an idiot. I think he was ashamed to admit he was being scammed. You'd be surprised how controlling your ego can get when it doesn't want to admit it's wrong

Rose Tyler

She brainwashed him so well. I wanted to shake him and tell him that he really should never tell anyone about the name of Jim Browning. She isn’t innocent in this I feel like she is completely complicit.

Jun Aranda

I don’t see how she is a victim? It seriously looks like she is willingly, enjoying, scamming her own people. *Sad* Can someone explain to me how she can possibly be a victim?

Jun Aranda

I thought so too. I was like it has to be Kitboga or Perogi. But, then Jim calling and he throwing Jim under the bus, I was then “nope, not either of them :-/“

Stephanie Humphries

This is so heartbreaking to watch because this man has so much faith in this lady that he would have given her anything she wanted. It’s so sad Jim that all the hard work that you do to save victims and they think you are the scammer and then tell the scammers about you 🤦🏽‍♀️I hope this doesn’t discourage you from doing what you do because without you we would all be scammed. Thank you so much again for all your hard work ❤️‍🩹

Kevin Furlong
>>67607086

Just from thinking out loud if she were a scammed somehow herself then maybe the scammers threatened her in a way if she were non-compliant.

Lorna Mangan

It’s a shame you couldn’t share a bit of the video with him, so he could see her respond to him & then show him a photo of the person she was impersonating. Even so, he was so brainwashed, he might have thought you performed some computer wizardry to convince him…..Frustrating.

Yvonne Clark

It breaks my heart. There is so little protection for the elderly. My Dad has been scammed by scammers on the phone and mail out of thousands of pounds. His bank have put measures in place to try to prevent this kind of thing they have been very helpful. But that just led him to send cash in the mail. At least it's not thousands at a time. I live 300 miles away and even with a LPA it is proving difficult to deal with because of lockdowns etc. If I take full control he has no access to any money to live on. There are no easy answers.

Yvonne Clark

That was my first thought. But she is obviously distressed at one point . I can't help wondering what kind of hold they could have over her. The police think she's a victim too.

Anonymous

Jim i am not good with people, but if i remember correctly the BBC Report mentioned your alias and explained what you do. Adding this ( i know that would have been hard in the conversation we got shown) could probably get you some more trust and give them a better understand of what you do.

Paulo

Is it wrong that I want to slap Lyn really hard? What a scammy bitch. Lock her up.

Elaine

I have finally managed to finish watching this video after several attempts as this woman's behaviour made me so incensed. There still remained a little doubt in my mind regarding her guilt and complicity after the previous video, but I have no doubt at all now. She managed to con an obviously intelligent man and played to his ego. She latched on to his desire to play a spy and milked it thoroughly, keeping up her persona for an extended length of time. I certainly couldn't do that! She wasn't phased at all when the victim questioned the scammer logic of being told to only deal with a non-specific local branch to catch the rogue employee, then an abrupt about turn to making the transaction by phone. She had an answer for everything. How you remain so calm on the phone, Jim, I just don't know, but all credit to you and please keep fighting the good fight.

Elaine

Just a few points regarding possible privacy issues: there's a pop-up at 50:26 which features the name of a female, and there's a phone no. visible in the Skype call at around 56 min. They're probably not important, but just in case they are.

Elaine

Final point, I note that the basis of this scam was to make a dummy duplicate transaction, which is something that has featured very heavily on Kitboga's current livestream (the bathtubs 😁). I still don't fully understand scammer logic behind this?

Elizabeth Calvert

I still don't understand how she was a victim. She clearly knows what she's doing! Only thing I can think is they were black mailing her

Pat Fox
>>67581445

All correct and useful info, but terms like 'IP address' are used simply because it's probably something that any internet user will have heard mentioned at some point. Very few of those targeted will know what it is or does, except that it has something to do with the internet. I'd not be surprised if it were being used deliberately to filter out anyone who actually does know this sort of thing, so that they don't waste their time and can move on quickly to an 'easier' victim.

Anonymous

In my opinion, she knows exactly what she is doing. She doesn't sound nervous on the phone call with the victim. I wonder how long she has been doing this, even though she is still being coached?

Ivko Cvejic

I agree with others, she's no victim; I don't care what brainwashing techniques they've been using on her. If she's so weak minded that she can be convinced to victimize her fellow citizens, then just tell her that prison is "protective custody" and she should believe that nonsense too. I say give her 5-10 years of protective custody.

Faafoe

I'm new to this. Can't get enough of your work, Jim. Thank you! Hope all is well mate.

Anonymous

I’ve been watching all of your videos and I get so pissed off at the way these guys speak to the victims. I was listening to that one podcast talking about how it’s a good thing that it’s you doing this work because you don’t get too emotional and lose your composure. I would literally want to reach through the screen and slap these guys or much worse.

Krzysztof Adamczewski

"The eventual outcome was that this man was able to recover his money (£6,500 or around $8,000) from HSBC once he finally figured out that it was a scam." Thanks God

Oluf The Explorer

This woman needs a hard smack upside the head. Lying to an old man like that, faking honesty... Ugh...

Anonymous

Upped my pledge after watching your YouTube channel deleted video. I hope that people seeing even people like you who are amazing at this can fall (albeit not fully in your case) for things like this. Thank you for your honesty and help to break down the stereotypical 'dumb people fall for scams' mentality

Anonymous

I just can't believe that she's not guilty, she is just not listening to this man when he speaks and just ignores everything that isn't about money.

WHATDAFUNKUS

This is so sad to see. It infuriated me to hear that she wasn't held accountable for scamming. This lady clearly knew what she was doing and is working with the Indian scammers directly. Such a piece of trash she is. I am very happy that in the end he was able to get the bank transfer returned! Great work Jim. I know from the video he doesn't listen to you in the moment, but he definitely Heard you loud and clear. CHEERS for all that you continue to do!

Anonymous

Poor guy just wanted someone to chat to.

Brian Winters

I could just cry for this man. Absolutely zero empathy from this women. I’m not a religious man but if he’ll exist I’m guessing she’ll be there.

rtamayo88

I still don't understand how this woman is not in jail for fraud, let alone impersonating law enforcement. I just don't get it. What did she tell those police officers that day when they paid her a visit?