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Closing Thoughts: Genre (Patreon)

Published:
2024-05-31 17:00:10
Imported:
2024-05

Content

Here ya go! Had a lot of fun making this one, which you can probably tell by how many extra thoughts I had to fit in at the end. Glad I'm not doing these on YouTube anymore, I don't think I could've justified an extra like 7 minutes of rambling but I had a lot to say.

Comments

Caleb Meyer

Okay 12tone, what's the name of the Pink Spears genre?

Kevin O’Donnell

I don't get it. Really. All I see is the end page!

Brian Miller

I thought that the point of Kansas was, "and now for something completely different..."

12tonevideos

One of our most important behavioral rules is that we don't give the genre a name. Real members of the scene (me) simply know it exists.

12tonevideos

There should be audio? It's an unscripted ramble of me talking about the process of making the video. I set it over the end page 'cause this is just a clip from the Nebula cut, but I didn't want to hide anything behind the Nebula paywall that wasn't also available to Patreon patrons.

MrScience

Leftoverture. And that *was* their sellout, I think folks would say.

rcombs

Honestly, as a queer person, this just makes me feel like musical genre labels are going in kinda the same direction as gender, sexuality, and other identity labels. The forces that previously created strictly-defined boxes that everything had to conform to are slowly collapsing, the lines between categories are becoming far more blurred, and in the wake of that transition, we're seeing people expressing themselves in ways that defy our current vocabulary. Both communities are having to reckon with an underlying linguistic truth: labels can be a useful tool, but they have fundamental limitations, and the way they're used will always be fluid and ambiguous. Here's hoping we can collectively accept that ambiguity and use it to further explore the human condition, rather than trying to fight against it.

An Oni Moose

a similar phenomenon takes place in religion and politics, where sects form and split and recombine and sometimes work together as fellow-travelers and sometimes go to war

An Oni Moose

I just watched on Nebula, so re-hearing the ramble while I read the comments & add my own, since that's not a thing on Nebula (yes, it's getting long, and needs to stop at some point; the last bit is definitely related to genre; keep on rockin')

Am Queue

No, that was Jethro Tull.

Am Queue

Interestingly enough, I just realized that I'm not in the $3 tier, which is listed in the tier section as the one that gets the closing thoughts. Just wanted to let you know. I should probably send this as a message, huh?

Unasinous

I always find it hard to describe what genre a song/artist/band fits into, especially when I'm asked what I like or if someone asks for recommendations. I usually default to saying "They're like X and Y (and etc.) mixed together, but I feel that sets up expectations that may not apply to what I'm trying to describe.