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Fixing My Brain with Automated Therapy (Patreon)

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2022-09-01 15:00:09
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2026-06
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I know my brand is kind of based on unexpected topics, but this one feels particularly out of my own comfort zone so I hope you enjoy it! I am ultimately very proud of how it turned out. 

Here's the link if you'd prefer to watch it on Nebula: https://nebula.app/videos/jacob-geller-fixing-my-brain-with-automated-therapy/

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Fixing My Brain with Automated Therapy

People laugh about this, self-soothing engines sputtering through a nosedive. Not me. | Get Nebula and CuriosityStream for less than $15 a year at https://curiositystream.com/jacobgeller Watch the Nebula Companion Video: https://nebula.app/videos/jacob-geller-the-people-behind-therapy-apps/ Watch THIS video on Nebula: https://nebula.app/videos/jacob-geller-fixing-my-brain-with-automated-therapy/ PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JacobGeller TWITTER: https://twitter.com/yacobg42 MERCH: https://store.nebula.app/collections/jacob-geller Sources: The Distance Cure (Hannah Zeavin, 2021) The Therapy App Fantasy: https://www.thecut.com/article/mental-health-therapy-apps.html “What is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?” https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/patients-and-families/cognitive-behavioral Computing Machinery and Intelligence (Alan Turing, 1950) Visual Media Used: Eliza, UnearthU, Reflectly, Bloom, Youper, MoodMission, “Hour of Power” Music Used (Chronologically): Mii Plaza (Wii), The Star-Spangled Banner, Instrument of Surrender (Disco Elysium), Consideration (Eliza), Daily Rituals, UnearthU (UnearthU), Determination, Unease, Jealousy (Eliza), Graydo (Stealth Inc. 2), Sentient (Gavin Luke), No Biscuits for a Bad Dog (Jerry Lacey), The Triumphant Return to Earth (Kilian Flowers) Thumbnail Credit: https://twitter.com/HotCyder Description Credit: "The Sunset and the Purple-Flowered Tree" by Joshua Jennifer Espinoza Additional footage provided by Getty Additional music and sound effects provided by Epidemic Sound

Comments

Kai Vee

Oh, SGF recommended that game with the CGI woman, I look forward to learning more about her.

Andrew Derry

That was poignant; I think I spend more than half the day thinking about how it was possible that we were all pidgeonholed into this forced Capitalist existence. I mean it when I say that I think it may be the cause of my depression on a regular basis, and I don't see a clear solution in sight. Oh and toxic poop /s

Nathaniel Itter

Honestly couldn't have timed it better-- I was just recently watching videos with my partner, who's about to be a licensed therapist, from our regular youtube folks and a couple have been sponsored by Better Help and she said "don't use Better Help" and was talking about some of what you mentioned in the companion vid, so I had genuinely been wondering about a lot of these apps and how helpful and/or ethical they are. TL;DR The Gellmeister, try as he might, still hasn't missed

Grambitious

I was furiously doing house work while listening to this. Really interesting experiment you’ve cracked into here.

Adrian Thornburg

Definitely my favorite YouTuber who’s bar mitzvah I attended

Jackson Timmons

I think the problem with any type of automated therapy is everything is inputted before any form of the actual therapy starts. The idea that a therapist can be a contained set of rules and information ('knowledge') is fundamentally mistaken, and potentially dangerous. Imagine a very experienced therapist that feels they have learned everything they need to know and goes into every session with purely that knowledge to go off of.. A therapist is like anyone else- they go through life and their career and they learn, they grow as a person, they have life-changing revelations. This happens on a smaller scale in their sessions with their patients as well. They not only learn more about you as they go, but they learn from you as well. It's like the idea of choosing an organized set of beliefs like Christianity or Existentialism from the beginning and sticking to them forever, rather than going through life with an open mind, ready for whatever's thrown at you to potentially change the way you think. I've heard plenty of stories of people going to their therapists with outsider concepts and thoughts that, at the very least, force their therapist to challenge their own position. Therapy is a give and take between two humans that are, in many ways, more or less the same. Imagine a therapist with a therapist... To look at therapy or any type of psychoanalysis as this broken, helpless person that just needs to decypher the solutions that the other more authoritative and generally experienced side has to give them is MALARKEY. An unsurprising solution from the growing population of fucking NERDS that don't know a thing about real people that are taking over the world... sorry. Where we stand now, only a human can fix a human brain. And that human is you, baby. If AI based, app therapy helps you then go for it. But you need a fundamental understanding of what therapy actually is for anything to really take root. Breathing exercises and gratitude journals can help you a lot to get through the day, or even a tough time in your life. But the true root of your problems is your deep-seated trauma (yes, you have trauma). A computer will never understand your trauma. A therapist or a friend may be able to get so close, but no one knows you better than yourself. Therapize yourself if you want a cheap solution. Stop talking to your fucking computer. Love you JG!

mattbonquiqui

Have had close friends telling me to go to therapy for years and I can now comfortably say it is unaffordable not because I’m avoiding it or anything

AndreGG

Where does watching the video it benefit you the most, youtube or nebula? What if I view it in both.

Harpyshrieks

As a recently licensed social worker practicing as a therapist I appreciate the CBT takedown. ;3 -- also the point you make about insurance coverage to human therapy in the future is terrifying

Nav Spider

PLEASE i have had beef with CBT and therapy apps for so long, this is a TREAT also this video hits different when you've had to go out of pocket for therapy even with insurance because there were literally no in-network therapists with openings in the entire state, but hey! your insurance will cover a handful of betterhelp sessions! the healthcare version of an office pizza party

Theis Egeberg

Perhaps it's an unreasonable task to expect human language to be able to express and heal the odd places we can go in our experience. Most of experience is outside of that language after all.

Zander Mote

Great video! I share your concerns about sharing personal data with tech companies, which has been touched on in a few videos from you recently. I'm one of the few people I know who still uses their real face and name for their online persona, and it has made me apprehensive to interact in online spaces on several occasions. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you may have on this (as a content creator who, as far as I know, uses his real name and face) in the commentary for this video or maybe even a future video all its own.

Sasuke's therapist

Another nuanced, well-researched, heartwrenchly evocative video. Thank you for taking the risk of branching out with your topics-- no matter the subject, you always bring thoughtful discussion that leaves me and my friends with something to chew on. We thoroughly enjoyed this and look forward to whatever else you have planned for the future ✌

Eric Falkenberg

Love the video. In an ideal world CBT probably wouldn't have a place but we don't live there. I certainly don't anyway. A few years back I had to go on short term disability from my job because I was so depressed I couldn't even get out of bed. I went through outpatient group therapy, about 3 hours a day 6 days a week for 3 months (was very lucky that my insurance covered it) and, to be honest, a good chunk of it was CBT. In an ideal world, my productivity wouldn't be the thing I was focused on. I'd focus on the core of each problem. But that wouldn't get me out of bed and get me back into a state where I could function 'normally'. And unfortunately, we live in a world where being able to function can have a drastic effect on your mental health. Part of what I experienced was a spiral. I lay in bed all day because im depressed. The next day I am more depressed because, wow, I didn't even get out of bed to eat yesterday, my apartment is a mess, and how am I gonna get through this if I cant event be productive enough to do the dishes. what am I doing with my life.

matt

I love this exposé, I always just kind of figured any of those self help / meditation / therapy apps were bullshit - it's really cool to hear you cover not only how bullshit they ARE, but also how bullshit they ARENT. And to still tie it back into a bit of videogames.