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Angel - S05E017|♡Uncut Reaction &Review ♡ (Patreon)

Published:
2023-10-22 00:41:23
Edited:
2023-12-23 21:41:42
Imported:
2026-09
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Angel, Spike and Gunn track down Lindsay, hoping he has information on the senior partners' plans; a nearly invincible stranger (Adam Baldwin) infiltrates Wolfram & Hart looking for Eve.

Link to the reaction:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/78870j4a2u7f0yhyvwkp2/Angel-5x17-1.mp4?rlkey=he05ojczflbvcq1jixo4zcwoi&dl=0

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Randy Giles

Harmony was in the original unaired Buffy pilot from 1996, so she's been there since the very beginning. After 8 years, she finally makes it into the opening credits. This episode made me realize Adam Baldwin would have been a fantastic Terminator.

Judson

Gunn absolutely did not deserve this. They ALL chose to join Wolfram & Hart. And, over the course of months, they have all done far more nefarious and directly harmful things (like letting their evil clients roam free) than signing a document to let an unknown item through customs. Fred's death is much more due to their collective decision to join and Fred's own handling of the sarcophagus than it is on Gunn. The team is being way way too hard on him. And, I'm very sorry, but I must raise this again. Wesley on his own is a great character, Fred on her own is a great character, but their pairing is not healthy or romantic. Wesley's "I've loved you even before I met you" is not romantic, it is emblematic of how he idealises her and doesn't truly see her for the flawed human person she is instead of his perfect dream woman. Any judgement that he makes stemming from this, including his treatment of Gunn, I personally do not agree with.

Tjbosslyfe

Dropbox the video freezes . Not sure if it's happening to anybody else. Vimeo plays no problems .

Randy Giles

The context of when Wesley said that is important as it was said on Fred's deathbed. Of course he's going to say flowery things in an attempt at cheering her up. Also, in Wesley's head, maybe Fred has no flaws, or maybe Fred's flaws are exactly why he loves her? Not trying to be argumentative, but the idea that Wesley doesn't truly see her because he's not pointing out her flaws when she's dying in pain is a strange interpretation to me.

Victoria

I’ve been in this fandom a long time and never heard complaints about fred/wesley until recently. I’ve just been seeing that specific take going around twitter. I don’t think him saying “I’ve loved you since I’ve known you, maybe even before” is toxic. I think it’s common to say stuff like that to the person you consider your soulmate or love of your life. It’s a way of saying like “I could sense you coming into my life”. Also like you said she was dying and he wanted to make sure she knew that she was the most important/precious person in his life.

Judson

No, I don't think he should have pointed out her flaws on her deathbed. Just that Wesley's quote should have been taken more for the 'lie to me' variety of cold comfort rather than some grand hallmark of a perfect relationship. I don't think the deathbed conversation is toxic either. The toxicity is more so Wesley and Fred in season 4. In Soulless, he forces a kiss on her before she can react. Then, instead of calling Wesley out, Fred immediately gaslights Gunn in front of everyone and they both treat Gunn like he is overreacting and abusive. When he sees Fred devastated over her breakup with Gunn in Calvary, his first reaction is to say "I think this is the part where I'm supposed to say I'm sorry, and I'm really trying to be, but..." In general, Wesley never holds Fred accountable for anything and is often needlessly vicious towards others to win a small measure of convenience for her. This pattern of behavior is why I contextualise "I've loved you ever since I've met you... maybe even before" as the last in a long line of instances he places her on a unrealistic pedestal.

Thom Purdy

Yes, where is "Shells", Angel 5/16?