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We hope you enjoy this brand new Patreon exclusive, extended interview in which we we find out more about a new theory! Put forward by Dr Helen Gittos from the University of Oxford this theory casts doubt on the current understanding of how opulent Byzantine treasures, found in some of the burial mounds, came to be there. Could it be that Anglo-Saxons were fighting in the Byzantine army? Let us know what you think!

Plus you can listen to the latest podcast here: https://podfollow.com/time-team/episode/2b759ee6f9911d0317ce8e2d5e3f35c0758d5943/view

Archaeologist Dr Helen Geake and co-host Martyn Williams take you to Sutton Hoo, where Time Team will be returning later this year.

Find out more about a new theory - put forward by Dr Helen Gittos from the University of Oxford - which casts doubt on the current understanding of how opulent Byzantine treasures, found in some of the burial mounds, came to be there. Could it be that Anglo-Saxons were fighting in the Byzantine army?

You'll also hear from the volunteers who are attempting to recreate the 27 metre-long longship which has made Sutton Hoo famous. How close are they to completing the project?

Plus, you'll meet the Patreon volunteer who's excited to return to the Sutton Hoo site and Time Team's Derek Pitman returns with news of a brand new offering over on YouTube.

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Mika

Excellent exclusive!

Chris

Fascinating idea. I like the openess in thinking about this period.

Kerry Hennigan

Wow. That was fabulous. I will follow up her article.

Gloria B

Marvelous! This episode is the best yet. The threads of theory interwoven with descriptions of the digging and boat-building action kept my interest (not an easy thing to do). As always, thanks for throwing in Patreon Q&A.

Not Public

Two Helen's?!? How wonderful. I hope TT continues to put these podcasts out! Also the news. It's so much better than the Television format. We can totally nerd out!!

Wessex-Wyvern

Hmm, why not have Saxons in the Byzantine army? After all, it was perfectly possible for Richard I to lead a crusade of "English" soldiers to Palestine in the 12th century

Garry Matthews

Another very interesting and through provoking podcast. Also pleased you are keeping the video as well.

Tim Cox

Brilliant to throw new ideas in to the Sutton Hoo melting pot and explore

Mary Lu

I too, like the development of additional interpretations of data. It may be somewhat infrequent to find all the proof needed to say a particular interpretation is absolutely the correct one. But I believe we learn as much, if not more, by exploring and accepting the multiple possibilities. These can give us a broader understanding of human activity. Thanks for these podcasts. I really learn a lot from them.

CCZ

Love this episode, thanks! I have a question, what's the difference of the new magazine and Danny's news?

Paul Bivand

An interesting idea... And the timing also interesting, as this is about the same time (maybe a little after) as the several battles that are claimed by the Anglo Saxon Chronicle as ending British power in what now became England. Though nobody seems to claim that the English did cavalry, which the article suggests the mercenaries were.

Fiona D

These podcasts just keep getting better!!

Meg

Fascinating

Jacques Pictet

Interesting hypothesis. My main concern deals with the exceptional nature of these finds. Do they fit better what soldiers - even elite ones - were paid or what rulers were offered as diplomatic gifts ? The two notions are not incompatible. As seen later with the Varangian guard, rulers in their area have more than once been in the guard before, They accumulated wealth that was needed to their ascension later and might have developed a taste for Byzantine luxury goods they were eager to receive as diplomatic gifts later. IMHO, the link between the two regions is clear, but I doubt these rulers brougth these goods directly from Byzance.

Martyn Williams

Really interesting thoughts, Jacques. Thanks for sharing

Martyn Williams

Hi CCZ, the news special will be bringing you even more! I look forward to hearing what you think of it towards the end of this month. Keep your eyes peeled!

Martyn Williams

Thanks Gloria. The questions from our Patreons (such as yourself) are always throught-provoking and interesting. We love including them

Martyn Williams

Thanks Kerry. Yes, a really interesting study and well worth further reading

CCZ

Thank you for your reply. Can't wait to see it.

Jacques Pictet

Thank you. The impact of fashion should not be overlooked. When rulers - who have been or not to Byzance - see their neighbours with such items - obtained one way or the other - they might be willing to have one too (they were not that different from us). Another question is: Who offered these goods, if as gifts ? Byzantine rulers or a unknown third party ? (Maybe DNA or fingerprints could help with that (;o).

Justin Freeman

Really enjoyed this podcast (again!), and hearing about volunteers at Sutton Hoo again this year is fantastic- can I put my hand up now please?!

Claudia Lewis

Thank you for an absolutely fascinating podcast. I would be extremely interested to know if it has been possible to do a DNA analysis of any Anglo-Saxon remains associated with this period, or slightly later? I am particularly curious as there appears to be a presumably small, presumably historic pocket of what may be Middle Eastern mitochondrial DNA in the East Midlands.

Rebecca Duncan

I thought Time Team were offering masterclasses or other study options. Anyone know about that?

Carrie Hartley

So interesting..I love that searching for the possibilities is open ended..will there ever be a conclusion? A great thought provoking podcast -thanks Helen,Helen and Martyn.

Karen Poirier-Brode

I recently watched Season 11 E04 and wondered if the female warrior was in fact a woman or could it have been a male with XXY ( Klienfelter’s syndrome)? The underbite suggested that to me. Was genetic testing done?

Martyn Williams

What an interesting thought. Thanks Karen

Polly Robinson

I jumped at that mention, too! Did I miss a sign-up call?

Leanne

I have some questions/comments/thoughts, so here goes. 1. General question. I worry about the wood coring in dendrochronological research. If you remove a sample from a rafter (or whatever), is the hole filled up after the sample is removed? It would make sense, but I haven't seen that done and I haven't seen it addressed (maybe not locating a good source). 2. I resonated with the discussion concerning the future of electronic records. My professional life also tries to figure this out. Do those housing archaeological records have plans in place to update the format when the underlying technology is close to being obsolete, like early Office .doc format to Office .docx format? Even PDF A has a shelf life. 3. During this podcast, I found myself thinking during the chat about Anglo Saxons fighting in the Byzantine, as I often do, why can't people in earlier civilizations do what we do now? Aside from the technology being different, and/or less advanced, nothing precludes them from exploring/traveling, eating well, raising children, pondering the meaning of life, the universe and everything... Sure, it seems there was more manual work in a day, doesn't mean they were 'less able' or not as 'smart ' as modern folks. I am often unhappy with the idea that things were somehow 'less.' Seems people have interacted with others outside their communities forever. Remember, 'modern' is always today and advances to 'modern' come because people want to solve a problem. Consider how 'modern' has shifted in even the last 50 years! I shudder to think what people in another 1500 years will be saying about our 'today.' Appreciate your time!

Martyn Williams

These are all excellent and thought-provoking questions, Leanne. I've added them to our list and I'm sure we'll get to answering them

Ross G. Kreamer

Beautifully presented information that expands my understanding of the Anglo-Saxon world. Well done. Ross

Debbie Gerlock

If Doggerland is deep under the North Sea, does that mean at the time it existed as dry land, the UK today is actually the top of a mountain?

Helen Johnston

is there going to be a way for us to sign up to volunteer soon? worried i missed it

Martyn Williams

Interesting question, Debbie, and one we might be able to get you an answer for sooner than you think!

Andy Quick

Interesting. We had a glimpse of Dr. Gittos making a good case for a thesis. Is there a link to Dr. Gittos' article? Thank you.

Halo Pendragon

Is the volunteer signup going to be lottery style? Do you have to have archaeological experience? I know some past volunteers were from other countries, is that a determining factor?

Martin Young

Dr Helen and Martyn: a very big thank you- this was the first podcast I’ve ever listened to, and what an inspirational introduction to the format it has been for me! I’m a convert!! My entire Sunday will now be dedicated to listening to the previous episodes. To think back in the 1990s we only had an hour of Time Team on a weekly basis to look forward to on TV, and now some 30 years later we have an abundance of archaeological insights at our finger tips. To everyone involved at Time Team that makes all this happen: it really is very much appreciated, a truly enriching experience!

Dorothy Frank

Wow. I've known there were podcasts, but I had gotten away from listening to any podcast much. But I watched the special you'd put out a few days ago, and Helen mentioned the podcast so I tried it. Oh my!!! Thank you. And now I, too, need to catch up. Absolutely splendid.

Martyn Williams

HI Martin, what a lovely thing to say. Thanks so much. We're thrilled you're enjoying the podcast

Laura Phaneuf

If there were no physical human remains in the ship burials how do we know there was only 1 person?