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829 - Banality in the UK feat. Riley Quinn (5/2/24) (Patreon)

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2024-05-03 05:17:04
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2026-06

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Riley from the Trashfuture podcast joins us to examine one of the few countries possibly even more benighted than our own, the dear old United Kingdom. After some brief remarks from Will & Felix touching on the ongoing incidents with university pro-Palestine encampments across the country (and we hope to do more on these events in the near future), Riley guides us through the UK’s slowly unraveling public infrastructure, domestic politics, and increasingly buffoonish elites.

Find Trashfuture wherever you get pods, and all things Trashfuture here: https://www.trashfuture.co.uk/

LAST CHANCE: join Will & Hesse this Saturday, May 4th for a screening and talkback of DEATH WISH 3 at Littlefield in NYC: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/chapo-trap-houses-movie-mindset-screening-of-death-wish-3-w-will-hesse-tickets-877569192077

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Andreas St.Clair

Who fuckin w that Euphoria thoooo, Kung-Fu Kenny da godddddd

Jonathan Nathan

Will must be held accountable for his lies about Kristi Noem’s dad

Jorge Enesto

Please guys, I literally just listened to two hours of Praxiscast bitching about UK politics and u upload this Don’t do this to me😭

Talcum Gladwell

Congratulations to everyone for not using the f word

Jonathan Nathan

Btw, the first thing my VERY normie officemate said to me this morning was to ask me if I saw the horrible things the cops and counter-protesters did in LA. The narrative isn’t working. Everyone can see what’s going on.

Poppy Chulo

Anything about the antifree speech bill that criminalizes any critiques of Israel? Come on guys.

Poppy Chulo

This sucks, I'll come back when Matt does.

theo bradshaw

The crossover I've been waiting for

Hemlock

Name of the bill?

Snottle Bocket

“Frat Boy Freikorps” is my new favorite phrase

Rene

Actually just don't come back it's OK

Poppy Chulo

Please keep the retard sycophant talk out of this comment section.

JD Nonce

BRITISH GREY WOLF HERE! EVERYONE FEEL FREE TO KICK ME IN THE BOLLOCKS, MATE!!

Erik

“AEFrei”

George Lochinski

Offwat? Offstead? UK privatized every sector & gave them all names from the Handmaid's Tale

Tony Millionaire

How come this Limey don’t talk funny like he’s supposed to?

Max Lopez

What’s the outro song? Is it Gang of Four?

Andrew Cross

Footy blokes defending statues is such bri’ish brained shit

Steeeeve

Is that a wojack pfp you fucking loser

Poppy Chulo

There's more of that retard talk steeeeeeeveeee. Gay name.

Andrew Cross

Outside the trains don’t run on time

Shiv

he’s from super western UK (Niagara escarpment)

drewb

Bit of stupid history trivia. At least part of the reason Scotland's water provider wasn't privatised is because the labour-run Strathclyde region ran a referendum on the subject almost immediately before the regions were replaced with the national parliament. Would you be surprised to learn that the result was 99% against

BigBoto

Got the full English in the frying pan and a 2-litre of Strongbow for this one boys!

Fernslinger

Will did nothing wrong! The allegations about Kristi Noem’s dad are “emotionally true” and that’s good enough for me.

Robert Armstrong

Got a can of Irn Bru and some bangers and mash, Guv.

thicchatlogan

just woke up and for a second there I thought riley quinn was that swimmer lady who's always crying about tying for like 15th place with a trans person

thicchatlogan

yeah man I'm sure the genocide will stop faster if only chapo talks about it every single episode

Blank

Don’t let the power change you

Comrade Trash Panda

Environmental science consultant here. What he's describing in the UK concerning utilities is 1/1 to the US. Just the US has more money to throw at it. You are swimming in raw sewage

Dan Mistak

Rwanda is absolutely beautiful and safe. I would much much much prefer living there.

etienne

I would also surmise that the american continent just has more water to dump its shit in? The solution to pollution is dilution etc

Ok bro

Chapo and Trashfuture - dream collab

William

Felix with the electrical utility deep cut. Real heads know

William

The whining for attention… bro get some self respect

Collieflower

That barely sentient pork sausage Meghan McCain should really avoid commenting on the attractiveness of others.

William

Thought they said megyn kelly

Damen Irving

Ive been waiting for this collab

Collieflower

Oh shit, you’re right. Got my insufferable Megs mixed up.

Justin Kase

Prior to the Tories taking the red wall constituencies from Labour MPs they asked some locals why they were flipping from voting Labour to Tory. A couple of reasons given: the Tory MP has promised more food banks (wtaf); the NHS in this area is really bad its time for a change (you understand the NHS shitshow has been caused by the Tories). So much stupid, we (the lower classes) kinda deserve everything we got from 14 years of Tory bullshit. We as a nation kept asking for more of it. I think people have final got a whiff of the smelling salts.

Kvvvy

Exactly my thought lol. That or 1984

Kvvvy

Props to Chris for that Guns of Brixton drop. A man of impeccable taste

Savannakhet

I think Riley might be mixing up the Euston Manifesto with the Limehouse Declaration. The latter formed the SDP in the early 1980s as a spoiler party to the Foot/Benn-led Labour party and the Euston Manifesto was British Liberals after 9/11 saying "We need to get more racist".

Pædiekeix

I am once again calling for a joint Chinese-American special military operation to liberate the british isles

J Lit

Riley's great but they need to get Milo and November on

drewb

Mr Kagame, welcome to the comments section

drewb

There is an evergreen article whose headline is "British people are wrong about everything"

Beev

Whenever I hear the name “kier starmer” I think it’s the name of some white supremacist website

Marc Silverstein

Who does keir think he is. Morrissey? He does sound like a Smiths song though. "SORRY MR. STARMER"

Subscriber 1

QOTD "Deputized Frat-Boy Freikorps"

Sixten Heekin

sounds like we are lucky to not have their problems

Adam Murphy

The NYT Daily podcast portrayerd the counter-protesters as violent and out-of-control. You know it's bad when Michael Barbaro and Peter Baker are siding against pro-Israel protesters.

pelicans123

this Riley only cries for the Jackson Triggs blended Cabernet Sauvignon, the very height of flavour

Patrick Taffe

I love the Britainology series of episodes from Trashfuture but holy shit when Riley starts rattling off about financial instruments do my eyes glaze over fast

Alec

Ew, TERF island

NostromoDreams

https://www.wral.com/story/organizer-of-viral-fundraiser-for-unc-frat-rager-creating-board-to-plan-party-give-to-charities/21410859/ John Noonan, the organizer of the campaign, Noonan, a Washington, D.C., defense consultant who has advised moderate Republican presidential candidates on national security issues, is a frequent commentator on defense issues on social media. He isn’t affiliated with any of the fraternities mentioned in the campaign messaging, and he says he organized the fundraiser independently. Felix, you got your wish. Lol

CHET_BIGTRUCK

Hussein has to drink from the puddle to prove he's hard enough for Chapo I guess

Justin Kase

Not far from the truth. We are a country of nostalgist arseholes.

Natalie

Kinda funny how she's judging college students for not being up to her standard of success as if they're not getting Ivy League degrees to hopefully have a successful future

etienne

in the biz they call it a "showrunner"

Sean McL

Yeah, it’s worth stating that it’s specifically England that has the shit water. Scottish water remained in public hands and delivers perfectly good clean water at a low cost.

Henz

With worse comedic instincts tbh

Pancy Nelosi

MY TWO FAVORITE PODCASTS JOINING FORCES!!!! WOOHOO!!! 🎉 🥳🎊🍾

Matthew

Bit shit innit

Jessica Rios

Um. It’s not THAT crazy to not be able to buy your house and have to rent forever. Love the hearty laughter when he said that. Lots of people can’t buy and that’s why they rent. What am I missing?

Jaime Christley

A couple of things I learned about Britain that fried my brains, I believe it was via Ghost Stories for the End of the World (shout out once again): the concept of the D-Notice that effectively muzzles a piece of investigative reporting at the drop of a hat; also the whole thing where a reporter can file the UK version of a FOIA request concerning an MP’s business ties (thus their potential conflicts of interest) but such a filing carries a fee. And you don’t just pay the fee for yourself, the journalist, but for each and every other person who gets the disclosure - i.e. each of your colleagues, each your editors, and yeah: each of your readers. So you just don’t fucking do it. I’m recalling this without brushing up on it, so if you’re more familiar with this stuff than I am and I’ve misstated anything, I’m happy to be corrected.

Gordon Schmidt

It's not just London police, Philly PD and the MPD in DC have refused requests by administrators to break up campus protest encampments. My guess is they can tell there's no public safety issue here (that's what some of them have said) and would feel embarrassed doing something so small-ball and pointless. Meanwhile prima donna drama queen departments like NYPD can't get enough of this. I think it has more to do with how they see themselves than any sympathy or lack thereof with the protests.

etienne

I need to understand what's the Deal between Nova and chapo like she kinda make it seem like she hates chapo but like 97% of her bits are ripped from here and she retweeets felix every other week. maybe it was just a temporary annoyance at their ukraine takes iunno

Alison Buki

nah you need a straight man in that show otherwise it goes completely off the rails

Tim Mullen

The main problem with the Brits is their empire never had its battle of Manzikert or its Bursilov offensive where its power was permanently shattered. The US just did a corporate takeover and the Brit’s still act like they’re world leaders and not Portugal with shitty weather

Anthony DAmico

That's a totally normal state for humans. The country of England should have enough cash to own their own trains though.

Henry

"Gender Hamas" gets me every time

Purple Lemons

It's hard to express how much I need to hear that I'm not the only one going fucking insane reading the news about these protests, the students at my alma mater here in London have recently occupied one of the buildings as part of their pro Palestine protest and I couldn't be more proud of them, but fuck it's so hard to not feel like a basket case reading the news right now

CHET_BIGTRUCK

I think the joke is the scale difference between a person renting 'forever' (i.e. as long as they are alive/have material needs) and a government renting 'forever' (countries are usually going concerns and should be willing & able to think longer term)

Jessica Rios

I agree that it’s totally different that’s why I was confused about the comparison

I am become reply guy

How can something be ‘too expensive’ when you’re the government? You print the money and make the laws, can’t you just take it??

R. Rafferty

They’ve also privatized orphanages in the UK - you can imagine how that’s turned out…

Natalie

megyn kelly is apparently seething because college students aren't successful and fuckable enough for her

Rxk Lenderman

I don’t think there’s anything there. Sometimes Trashfuture and Chapo arrive at the same bits in the same that like ancient humans developed the same technologies. Like there was definitely a time a few month ago where they had the same Ackman riffs but in a way where there was no way either podcast could have heard the other one first. Or the time they both had the same guest in the same week talking about AI in the same way, but that had to have been recorded so head of time there was no way it was intentional. And every leftist podcaster and sub stacker retweets Felix every other week

Rxk Lenderman

I mean they literally are both the show runners/primary writers, so yes.

em

Malarkey in the UK am I right hahahahahaha

etienne

no you dont get it my friends inside my phone are sorta beefing sorta not? its complex

Sheila Mydick

Anyone know which Gang of Four song is playing at the end of the ep?

Brent

Yep, Modern Monetary Theory baybee.

etienne

if you surf on top of 50 years of conservative economics dogmatism that says that the government only makes laws if the capital holders are happy with it, and you can't take their capital, and that printing bills causes instant hyperinflation, then yea a lot of things become too expensive

Jacob Kohl

Glad to see Riley on the pod. Milo next please. Or November. Dealers choice.

John Lima

Arlovski reference!! I feel seen

John Lima

The bribe should be a pair of arlovskis fang mouthguards

James Dadd

The UK/Rwanda deal is specifically modeled on Australia's insanely cruel and punitive refugee plans - to the point where the UK politicians keep talking about using an Australian Approach to the 'crisis'. Australia specifically pays a fair chunk of change to Nauru and Christmas Island's political class and even more to.... Serco, rearing its fuckin head again, in order to imprison about a hundred people in abject misery for absolutely no benefit to anyone, aside from an object lesson in cruelty. Britain's fucked up by roping in a nation that isn't a de facto client state that's utterly dependent on them - should have used the Isle of Man or like, the Falklands or something instead. You should really get someone on from Australia to explain what the fuck is going on there, because much like the UK in some ways it's a grim portent of the future and in some ways it's a shitty reflection of what's already happening in the US. Multi-track enshittification!

Ardy Rezv

Remind me again, which administration and which party are denouncing the protests like a bunch of fascists???????

etienne

I have a hyperspecific question that I think you people will sort out for me: what's the derogative term that Felix used for Nation of Islam / Farrakhan / Doctor Yakub believer types? like afrofuturist black supremacist weirdos? I vaguely remember it's used by the followers as a greeting because it means "peace" in some language or something I know at least one of you is going to understand what I mean, it's been bugging me for a week

John

🎯

Last Years Man

Love Trash Future. Ya'll gotta have Milo or November on at some point too. And as an American, nothing tickles more than hearing how miserable the Brits are.

Last Years Man

I would normally agree, but I've learned a lot by listening to them. It's definitely a lot more palatable when Milo's doing Family Guy voices in the background, though.

Last Years Man

Once again, they accuse the protesters of doing exactly what they're doing. Same fucking playbook every time.

Last Years Man

Riley actively tries to keep things on track more, which definitely aint easy. Sometimes you just wanna buy him a drink. Especially when Milo's off his meds.

Last Years Man

Milo and Felix togeher would probably open a dimensional portal somewhere

Jimmy McMillan

It's a nice change of pace hearing shit news that isn't about our government

Last Years Man

Í want Matt back too but "if Matt were here" is turning into the new "Bernie would have won."

drewb

Tony Abbott is the end result of centuries of antipodean genetic engineering to produce the single most abhorrent Anglo

drewb

"Hotep"?

drewb

Previously we just let the catholic church run them, that went about as well as you can imagine

Fingerless

a separate order of sheila gesserits believe Peter Dutton is a more suitable prospect

Fingerless

Britain never had it's shit sorted out by Napoleon so they have these insane institutions that should not exist in a modern liberal country, like Leaseholds (a plot of land where the thing being bought and sold is a century long lease from an actual feudal lord) and The City Of London (a de jure independent square mile of London where all the finance is, the main place where money is sent to The Caymans because it's not subject to freedom of information requests)

Fingerless

i remember that she didn't like the Joker episode. I figure there's just some stuff she disagrees with them on but still finds them on the whole funny.

Fingerless

i credit Trashfuture with increasing my financial literacy tenfold. before that, stuff like bonds, dividends etc. were completely incomprehensible to me.

Fingerless

joint retribution operation for the opium wars/1812

etienne

oh god thank you so much

Mark Schneider

I gave up on NPR even before the Ukraine proxy war when the "News Hour" had the "Venezuelan ambassador" on, & he started spewing garbage about Maduro's "corruption" & how they were going to arrest Maduro, etc. That empty headed Judy Woodruff didn't even prep the audience that the "ambassador" was appointed by Mike Pompeo, Trump & the CIA, just like that joke "president" Juan Guaido.

ray hafez

Now that we own nothing and our country's falling apart, as a Brit it's just nice to be talked about like we're still relevant.

Ultima Dingulon

Any Nate Bethea extended podcasting universe crossovers are a win for me

Oliver Elliott

Riley must win some kind of prize for least criticized guest in the comments. Only one mild “not as good as Will” so far.

Patrick Taffe

Milo is the only consistently funny member of their crew

will michel

listening to this guest cook and furiously vacillating between “trenchant insight” and “bon mot”

Petrorenminbi

Wait…is this a crossover episode?!

etienne

I think it's way worse when journalists who should know better handwave a not that complex financial topic with "ahhh voodoo economics right? wont bother you with that"

K102.1FM Mornings w/ Jonny Corndogs

As someone who has pretty much cut off ties to traditional mass media, my only experience with it now is when I'm using the treadmill at my local gym. The "news" content they're showing (here in the US, its CNN, MSNBC and Fox News) each are denigrating the Palestinian people and these protesting students (to the degree their regular audiences will allow them to). It's all done with no sense of shame. While the "cable news" media channels are really bad, I save more of my ire for PBS and their news program with Christiane Amanpour. That show is the epitome of liberals fellating fascists. They talks so sadly of the loss of human life, but do their best to shield Israel of any possible criticism and throw their hands up in frustration when nothing magically gets better by the end of the segment. I'm only exposed to this for about 2 days/week and even that sickens me to my core. Having said that, I can see how further exposure and continued resistance to such propaganda could make anyone a basket case. Real fucking dark hours in the 2020's.

Michael Cisco

2k pounds a month to buy a UK politician -- Chapo, buy one! Make them ask the prime minister what he thinks of Naruto.

Fabricated

Polling supports the idea that the average American just finds all of this really annoying and wants it to stop. They want the colleges to listen to the demands of the students, but they also want the cops to beat up the students for being annoying, but they ALSO also want the cops to beat up the counter protestors for being annoying.

Antipaganda

Dutton was the result of adding potato DNA to the already existing Queensland Cop strain, producing something even more racist, which was not thought possible. Australian science wins again!

Nick Fredman

Some podcasters seem to think it’s uncool to admit to listening to other podcasts but Riley seems above such tiffles.

Last Years Man

There are few people anywhere who are more consiatently funntly thqn Milo imo but November makes me laugh a lot too. Hussein is great for his anecdotes that give them something t riff off. Like the famous puddle story.

Patrick Taffe

November? Am I missing something? Or did you mean Nate

THEKILLERWHALE

Rentier Capitalism is a great book if you want to read about just how outsourced and fucked the British state is. They have created a class of hyper-parasites that are sucking the nation dry and they are coming for everyone.

etienne

alice changed name

Last Years Man

November, formerly known as Alice. She changed her name.

Dan Baggar

Outside The Trains Don’t Run On Time off of Solid Gold

K H

Ya know, drones are super cheap. Police cruisers and paddy wagons are super expensive. Houthis have really shown the math of resistance favors the cheap mobility of modern war.

K H

God. I should really just move.

Patrick Taffe

His biggest crime is being a bit dull to listen to

BB

“Sea of heads at my corruption hearing” lmao

James Dadd

The multipolar enshittification axis applies to every western country at least, you're trading higher or lower values on islamophobia, constantly committing war crimes, proximity to catastrophic climate change... There's nowhere good to run away to - it might be better in some ways but it'll be worse in others. Your only real options are [REDACTED ON THIS PLATFORM] the root causes of the problems. Or, you know, hermitmaxxing.

Hot Rod

Who are the football club freikorps? Definitely Chelsea and West Ham have their incidents.

Nolan

I bet all the coke in London has that used kitty litter taste

Brett Anders

I know Will has an aversion to theater but there’s an excellent documentary-style play about Grenfell tower playing in Brooklyn at St. Ann’s. Can’t recommend enough

demonsweat

Millwall, legendary hooligan firm

James Lavin

Our cuntry is fucked in so many ways, but at least we have this chapo-trashfuture crossover ep

James Lavin

Thoy've tourned the bladdy Met woke!

Hot Rod

Sorry: Rangers FC or QPR?

ZazaSal

Need a new ep with Felix discussing the Kendrick-Drake beef immediately

MG

Need an episode where the boys talk about the insane graduation ceremony at Ohio State where the keynote speaker was a bracelet salesman pushing bitcoin where someone actually committed suicide

Sol Chatz

Rangers FC, worth reading up on it's quite interesting. Historic rivalry with Celtic and it's very political as well. But to sum it up rangers are a bunch of racist and Celtic fans especially hooligans are very left wing but the club itself is left leaning

K H

What?

Horse Badorties

Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony

Horse Badorties

The Oxford/Cambridge rowing competition sent all rowers to the hospital for septic contamination- when the toffs get hit, the shit flies.

Horse Badorties

They would need both showrunners to keep them to heel.

Tim Mullen

See corporate takeover

Tyler Sutherland

Keir Starmer holding a lager and saying "Oi'm just maxxin in Manchester!" a la Hillary

Micheline

Riley sounds so much like Sweet Palma and kinda looks like him!

Sela Lewis

The hosts should be happy to know that no one is looking to them for approval on the correct way to protest, whether it is on a college campus or an art museum.