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Will talks to Anny Viloria Winnett, a UAW 4811 ASE Trustee, Graduate Student Worker at the UCLA School of Public Health, and an organizer involved with UCLA’s pro-Palestinian encampments. They discuss last week’s violent assaults on the UCLA encampments, first from a group of Zionist vigilantes and subsequently by the LAPD. They then discuss the university’s response, keeping the movement resilient and safe in the face of such opposition, and some answers for all the media who want to know “why are you here?”

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Cody Ross Rex

Thanks for this. Get well soon Matt! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Reece Coren

thank you for being the one american news source providing honest coverage of the student movement!!!! love to sjp and free palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

Methew

Double slop smackdown

JD Nonce

As a socially awkward shut-it with imposter syndrome who never opens his bedroom curtains or take a bath, I really appreciate these interviews with people protesting where I might not have usually heard their opinions. In all seriousness, big appreciation to the activists for their struggle and to the Chapo boys for letting us hear from them

Ardy Rezv

Kinda weird how they let the blm protests go on like they knew they were never a serious threat. These protest get broken up very quickly

The Children of Jack Acid

Was this a betrayal, or a disagreement over tactics? Honestly I would not be surprised if there WAS a betrayal, but it's also true that reasonable people can disagree over whether or not to zip tie metal barriers together, and it doesn't mean one or the other is at fault when the pigs break through. It's also true that in the heat of battle, events that happen at about the same time by sheer coincidence can appear to be correlated/planned when they weren't. Who knows, maybe she is a PsyOp, but she doesn't sound like one, not with her history. Then again, labor in general, and the UAW in particular, don't have a spotless record historically when it comes to seriously protesting violence overseas, so maybe she was taking marching orders to tone things down, I dunno. The vibe I'm getting is that maybe she made some mistakes, but not with the intention of killing the protest or letting cops crack skulls. It's easy in hindsight to say "She should have listened to us!" without realizing that while some people have a perfect grasp on their situation and can advise intelligently, most people's advice is just lame, and it's hard to tell who's who in a stressful environment.

Last Years Man

When we're dealing with organization, I don't think there's any surface that we can scratch that won't reveal some discontent underneath. It's a blessing and a curse.

Red Herring McGuffin

idk but to me if your disagreement over tactics is that we should tactically give the pigs a hand then im gonna say the disagreement also constitutes a betrayal

Jeremy Work

I get the frustration with how it turned out, but assess the situation and ask what they would gain by betraying their cause? to an outsider, like me, its just as likely that sowing mistrust in the ranks through leaked texts with no corroborating evidence is a betrayal and no more "proof" than the initial accusations. what is there to gain, unless you believe that the person in question started out as a plant and has always been a plant.

Red Herring McGuffin

it may not be that she's a plant, she or whomstever is responsible may have just made a very very stupid decision, maybe intimidated by the pigs I'm aware that there's absolutely not enough evidence to dismiss Anny as a wrecker or whatever, I just think people should be aware of the allegations levelled at her and other leaders of UAW 4811

Mark Schneider

I'd like to learn more about that. Unfortunately, somebody killed the link-- can anyone find a working one?

Jö

“We just don’t have time to talk to media who is unwilling to put out the real story” 💙

ploob

💸

Dan Baggar

eh, depends what city you were in

L.

I'm not sure why Will thinks they wouldn't respond similarly to a US war, students protesting the Vietnam war were shot and killed by the national guard. The government may not be the same as the 1960s, but I don't see that it would be less willing to kill if it felt it should.

Jennifer Reft

I’ve heard I’ve heard at least a few people suggest that this is kind of compensatory reaction.

Jennifer Reft

So appreciate the Palestinian coverage ✊✊✊

Rob

The students demands are much more specific and they target the university and companies. Unfortunately I think BLM had less specific demands and could be responded with "thoughtful dialogue" until it eventually lost steam. That tactic can't really be applied here

Slamp

The reason the blm protests went on is because of the sheer numbers of people in the streets. The scale was too overwhelming. The cops responded with extreme violence the very first night but people fought back. You don't know what you're talking about. I was in Minneapolis that first night. I have friends with permanent brain damage because of police violence. Are you trying to create an unnecessary divide here?

Jerry Cornelius

Very clear, eloquent descriptions of the situation on the ground. If I were in her shoes I’d be so enraged that I’d struggle to maintain composure. Particularly impressed by her continuous return to the underlying issue of class warfare. The students’ heroism is deeply moving. Did anyone hear her mention the most direct method to send them cash? Bail fund?

K H

The people showing up to attack encampments are 1. Localish cops. 2. Mossad/iof cunts. Those are the only groups of people assured enough they will not be punished to carry out prolonged violence like that in such small numbers.

Ardy Rezv

BLM protest were directionless. Just angry people out in the street. Weren’t a threat in the slightest. The students demands fucks up the money. That’s why they crack down on them and the media frames them as criminals. The BLM protestors were praise by all but conservative media outlets.

K H

The BLM was a lot more forceful tbh. Buildings were actually damaged and movement through cities was halted. They tried and in many cases lacked the manpower. By comparison, these are stationary encampments closer to farmer's markets than protests in comparison to what happened in Minneapolis and Seattle. I understand that many of us prefer nonviolence and passive protests because they are generally lower risk to each individual present. However they are simply not as effective. 1 or 2 "riots" has more impact on moving policy than 100 organized protests coloring in the lines. Simply rendering 30% of police vehicles inoperable would drastically limit their capacity for escalatory violence and mass arrest. You draw up those plans though and you get to meet your personal FBI agent. When you start mixing the 1st and 2nd amendment you start to realize how many "rights" are basically fake. Which is why I advocate nonviolence and respect for Government, God, and currency.

Antipaganda

Classic cointelpro tactic here. Anonymous accusations to split the group apart.

Jed Levin

Thanks for this update!

Red Herring McGuffin

well tbf they're not exactly anonymous filmthepoliceLA was there and raised the same issues

Tom

Love how she frames the struggle for Palestine with international solidarity and union organizing experience too. Movements building and wielding power, you love to see it.