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Seeking a Fren: Episode 6 - Groyper’s Delight (Patreon)

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2025-01-15 12:00:10
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2026-09-02 17:38:28
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When a midterm blowout leaves the Trump White House in disarray, his fans turn towards unusual sources for comfort; things only get worse as

When a midterm blowout leaves the Trump White House in disarray, his fans turn towards unusual sources for comfort; things only get worse as Trump loses and the same people who rallied around him scramble for an answer. Meanwhile, the real legacy of the Trump administration sends a tidal wave crashing down on the American public.

This episode draws from Jennifer Berkshire and Jack Schneider’s A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door. For a full list of sources, check our works cited doc here: www.chapotraphouse.com/seeking

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Mr Tu Damn Quoque

Very appreciative of all the content this week. Makes a shitty week just that little bit smoother ☺️

enjoyerofthings

been waiting on this one, thank you chapo

Chas Padunski

Whoever had the idea of punctuating this series with early Scott Walker tracks: thank you.

Flesh Colored Subaru

"You're telling me now for the first time" is such a incredible, meaningless sentence

GnarlyRaeJetson

Great eps but something missed about beshear beating Bevin. Bevin took hating teachers wayyyyyyyyyy too far as well. Well beyond normal republicans hate for educators

Blank

Lmao at Vegeta reference

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

The Republicans lost the battle of Dr. Oz/Fetterman but won the war when having to wear a tie for the first time in his life cut the blood supply to his brain and delivered a depressingly non-lethal stroke to Braddok PA's "shorts in snow guy."

Ardy Rezv

Remember, when a lot of Kamala supporters were getting their rocks off to the idea of Gaza getting worse?Turns out a vote for democrats was a vote for genocide

Brandon

captain olimar ?!

Christian Bendillo

🎶blue jean baby🎶LA lady🎶seamstress for the band🎶

Richard Cochnar

That fucking RBG death response clip makes me laugh til I cry every time I hear it.

buttface

Who is the target audience for this?

Sgt Grumbles

🎶 pretty eyed 🎶 pirate smile 🎶 you'll marry a music man 🎶

Sgt Grumbles

"She just died? Wow. I didn't know that. You're telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life, what else can you say? She was an amazing woman. Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life actually. Sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that."

Sgt Grumbles

🎶 ballerina 🎶 you must've seen her 🎶 dancing in the sand 🎶

Patron

I like to imagine that I'm in a lecture hall at Chapo University when I'm listening to these lectures.

Rachel LaBerge

its a cohesive story linking almost all chapo-canon characters. who is this NOT for?

Pat

Read Lee Edelman

Whucko Jaang

I imagine that i am sitting in front of Felix but facing away from him, toward my PC.

Ian H

Oingo Boingo and Paul Weller drops were also sick

Charlie Moe

I love this series except for Spencer, he's a burden on his friends and family!

b2b saas purveyor

great ep. i too take a small amout of solace in the notion that the political hobbism which replaced sports etc will wane sooner or later

JoeDotBiz

Great series, next up Will is back to watching movies he likes with his friends

nick

Gen z and younger I think, who wouldn’t remember bush, obama, trumps first term.

nick

At any point in this series do we learn what a “fren” is?

Jonathan G

Google it young player

buttface

No. I asked about this in the comments of a previous episode and was assured by many that the title is self explanatory (it is not).

buttface

true but I don't think those people are listening to chapo

buttface

yeah, all the best books, films, and documentaries require you to separately research their title to understand its meaning

C. Ries

Why does Felix keep saying “occulted”. Does he mean to say “occluded”?

buttface

wishful thinking

K H

A feast of slop. This is not a trough but a mighty pool.

FDRomanowski

hey frens, what was that lovely chune playing at around 1:28?

Jonathan G

You are now banned from commenting - The Community

Joe S.

Creepy racists on Reddit (and maybe 4chan, idk) used it as a dog whistle. I think it came from having their usual haunts banned and having to search for fellow-travellers in whatever random places they scrambled off to. It was part of the weird vocabulary they liked to use so they could recognize each other.

Ricardo Pleasure

"for the rest of your life: go out, touch gloves, and fight."

Jaime Christley

I'm in awe of Felix (and everyone he collab'd with) being able to keep this shit straight. Modern US conservativism has to be one of the most chaotic, self-obfuscated, bullshit-clouded entities in the history of American politics. We would be told one thing one day and the complete opposite the next - and not just by cranks, but by the self-appointed "cooler heads" of the lib entities of the MSM. Just the clear delineation of the first 1-2 years of Covid, that fucking hall of mirrors; or neatly thumbnail-sketching of the nature and influence of QAnon..... a great miniseries.

Axel H.

Yes, it’s “doggo”-like internet speak for “friend” (cf. “snek” for “snake”) that came to be used on 4chan by alt-right types to refer to fellow alt-right types.

Luke

He’s doing a malapropism schtick. It’s not really working lol

etienne

I remember in 2016 or so when ppl were saying that QAnon just captured and swamped out every other conspiracy but now I'm seeing ppl out there genuinely caring about the moon landing and flat earth. nature is healing

Eli Navvy

Amazing series, well done guys ❤️

hamburglar

some mitski song I think

Bossbear

" godrick the grafted " as a metaphor is halarious , a runt of a terrifying litter desperately grasping for power while trying to prove himself as something more then he is .

Sai

is this series worth listening to? Been skipping em for some reason 🤷‍♂️

Jesse Svetlich

Yes. It’s a great roundup of American conservative history. It’s also funny.

buttface

this "needle drop" nonsense has to stop. can't even begin to explain how reddit it makes you sound.

Andrew Cross

if something is made hidden or secret it’s occulted. man’s never done a occulted blood test before

Jonathan G

Felix's pronunciation of "Pat McCrory" is making me feel like he is ESL

Brendan Kneeland

“Josh Hallway” will make me laugh every time

Matthew Dunn

Love the idea of an alternate universe where liberals are burning masks, and conservatives are locking down.

Jackie “My Fatha” Jr.

Major props to a hell of a series. Hard to tell this insane story, but it was done magnificently.

Adam Murphy

Mr Felix biederman goes to Washington find out everyone is a pedo

K

Atodaso! A fuckin atodaso!

Craig

Great series, Felix and co. I wish I was dead

buttface

suck my dick from the back loser

Will

What's the song used toward the start that sounds like it's based on The Seventh Seal?

Khemith

It's a pretty decent retelling of the overall history of the new right that arose from the anti new deal conservativism and had benefitted from the neo liberal turn.

Flubho

Thank you Felix and friends for making my week 💦

Pat

Amazing ep Felix

Jenkum Terry

Always laugh at girlfriend in a coma music cue

Jenkum Terry

Scott Walker it's called the seventh seal and is pretty much him describing the movie

Dick Must Bust

I hate to be the one to say atodaso, but atodaso, a-fuckin-todaso

buttface

Eat my ass alan

Dick Must Bust

Man, this series has been so good. I wish I understood what Felix is saying.

T

Sports gambling will solve this

T

I feel like I'm in a painting commissioned by Patrick Bet-David

Chris

That really how you want your first sexual experience to go buttface?

Austin Williams

Probability that producing this episode required the google search "what is knetucky capital": 100%

Austin Williams

yeah that was definitely what mattered. kentucky teachers are not a socially progressive bloc, but there are a shit ton of them and they mostly loathed bevin.

etienne

buttface what is your problem these days, you've been a absolute menace all week in the comment section for essentially zero reason

leonard

great stuff guys. shout out to whoever loaded this up with scott walker songs

concernedmom420

Excellent series, I hope whoever did a lot of the research and writing on this is included in future projects

E

The Scott Walker and wax tax industrial makes me feel like a targeted individual

Axel

Rufo as Godrick the Grafted was perfect

Geoff Allen

Great series. Beautiful outro on this ep.

Mitchell Butler

Need to know who wrote the line about Houston gays, is Amber involved in this?

ben Corio

Did.. Amy Terese finally get on Chapo?

doodooass

Liked the series but the central premise of an increasingly unpopular and electorally doomed right is obviously wrong.

K U

Really enjoyed this series. Most I've enjoyed something from the Chapoverse since Hell of Presidents. I feel like I legitimately learned a lot about American politics, and this was deeply funny in a way only reality can be. Felt weirdly optimistic at the end, however I still feel like we're entering an age of Right wing political dominance it will take us a while to escape from due to the absolute wreckage Joe Biden left of the Democractic Party and the media landscape.

Kainien Morel

Bravo, Felix, on a series that I think can be called, at least, "Christman-worthy." I didn't know if you could do it by yourself (after all, 'Hell on Earth' and 'Hell on Presidents' were at least two-person hosting jobs), but you more than showed you were capable of it, and I look forward to whatever your next project is, even if it ends up just being a start-up tutorial for that oversold A-10C module for DCS from Eagle Dynamics.

Dan

Very cool, but did a 5 year old edit the writing on this? Getting motion sickness from listening.

Ry

Fantastic series!!

John A

Feels like this actually was two podcast series mashed into one. One is about the history of conservative media, and one about electoral results and polls and stuff. The first one is fun and interesting, the other one is at times incredibly dull. I understand that these histories overlap, but I think trying to separate them, and focusing on the media stuff would have clarified the narrative of the series, and made the listen more entertaining.

James Blackmon

Pennsylvania "called for Israel shortly after midnight." My god lol

Ascetic Blur

Hitting Jacque with the stray was beautiful.

Callum Manson

I would absolutely love it if the scripts for this series were made available to read! would something like that be possible?

Sam Evergreen

Congrats on your new book Felix!!

Andrew

Great job gang 👍

Hardcore Virgin

Correct. And also the scope. As we got closer to the present the scrutiny and the recitation of details became more pronounced. Which would’ve been more enjoyable or interesting had this focused on early 80s America. For example. The 22 Virginia gubernatorial election. This episodes spends like 15 minutes on it. Why isn’t the 78 Arkansas governor election covered in the same detail? The closer we get to the present the more dilated and bogged down this becomes. Ultimately This all feels like an explainer for how you guys said the midterm red wave wasn’t gonna be the jester waxing some predicted. I remember ettingermentum saying something like if Kamala wins it’ll help the thesis. But she didn’t. I don’t think there’s enough here for you guys to claim you’ve got your arms wrapped around moment. As historical analysis this is pretty dull.

Hardcore Virgin

I said this elsewhere. This really feels like they thought their small redwave midterm prediction was the capstone of some 40 year narrative. It is actually pretty baffling they ran with this. Especially considering the volatility of the current moment and how warping these new tech mutagens are

Matthew Krueger

I will say that having spent the entirety of their existence making fun of Nate Silver, a lot of this was very poll-data heavy. I'm not sure it needs to have its arms wrapped around the moment though (if you can point me to something that accomplishes that more effectively I'd appreciate it : ) because it does the real work it needs to do just by existing in contrast to the narratives most liberals and conservatives have inside of their heads, and therefore the ones most other forms of media have indoctrinated all of us with for decades now. It is, I think, a pretty effective speed run through the last few decades of the conflicts and overlaps of the fundamental tensions between religion and global capitalism on the right. Not to mention the whole thing is worth it just to have that list of sources all compiled in one place. Or, even more importantly, that "outdoor summer hoops" needed to be immortalized in exactly the way it was here.

John A

Idk, I'd have a hard time if someone would ask me to summarize the argument of the series. So not sure how helpful it is in terms of counter-narrative. But maybe I was just inattentive. Also, the narrative relies so heavily on polling as an index for truth (if you have the skills to collect and interpret them correctly, which it is assumed that the author voice has) that it becomes a massive problem that the poll troll that wrote the script failed miserably at making sense of electoral polling just a few months ago.

Axel H.

Buttface has always been awful. Also, he said he unsubscribed, but of course that was a lie.

sixsceptres

Agreed. A very welcomed treat.

Aidan O'Connor

Second episode where Felix mentions the Scotch-Irish What does he know about them that I don’t

Hardcore Virgin

I agree with John A and he does a much better job at explaining this than I do. But I feel like thumbing my phone. So. To respond specifically to what you asked. Does this need to have its arms wrapped around the moment? Of course not. However The crew on this is presenting like they do, which is the issue. Let’s take but one example. The Normal Whites thesis. It probably holds during midterms bc maybe it only applies to the “normal” subset of middle to upper class “whites” who pay attention to politics and would therefore more likely participate in a midterm election. But if another of chapos ideas, that voter turnout favors the right now, that would also suggest those numbers of normal paying attention to politics whites are actually decreasing. Which again runs counter to one of the thesis put forward by the show. The country as a whole is becoming more turned off by right wing weirdos who have more thoroughly captured the right writ large. Again. Maybe this was coherent for One Midterm Election but the Shore narrative they’re countering was already disproven when all the rahm troops got drubbed out. This is another mostly correct chapo take (why buy diet when you can get the real thing) Ultimately I don’t even really care. Their college vs no college seems more “arms around the moment” but again. It doesn’t really matter in terms of making this show interesting. I’m glad you liked it bc they gave you a works cited. But to make an 8 hour show for that is kinda weak. I mean I can hate a movie but enjoy the opening credits but I’d really not prefer to have that experience. For notes and suggestions. I wish they had treated the past in the granular fashion they did the current moment. Or they gave the current moment the same amount of attention as they did the past. It just got too poll heavy near the end and again to John A’s point this is where I suspect the “poll troll” was most influential. Maybe part 7 redeems this??? But this episode was by far the worst of a series steadily declining in value. Starting where they did and ending with the death of Roger ailes as the window and then to future cast from there would’ve been my big picture note. I came to these comments hoping that I’d see my ideas presented and articulated in a way that I found satisfactory and a number of listeners have done just that. In terms of stimulating those thoughts and this criticism, the series has provided value. And I’m not mad at it. I’m just not clapping and calling this good or “christman” level. But it is here and we are talking so that’s nice.

Biscuit

This series is great because it’s like listening to Felix monologuing about his autistic special interest topic while I do the dishes

Zackary Kelley

I feel like it’s wishcasting saying fascism isn’t that popular, Dems are trash but we’re completely cooked on the whole now, it’s over.

Zora McBride

Heys guys, am a new fan but loving your work!! I was trying to grab all of these, and wanted to let you know that this ep's not in the Seeking a Fren tags/on the main mini-series page. Thanks for all the incredible excavating and entertaining. :)

Shauna Seroquel

Whoever did the music picks for this series: MARRY ME! Great throughout, loved the Scott drops, but ending with the mickey-fickey Style Council? You could have just done well, but you did Weller... Wow.

cosmia

fireworks by mitski!

cosmia

seconding everyone else in these comments who loved those scott walker cuts 😙👌

Jon W

Strong desire to hit Felix with a brick after that "Houston gays" line.

Mac daddy

I've listened to all of them, but relistening to this one im reminded of why its not very interesting to me. The parts on conservative media and their weird obsessions are great, very funny and felix has amazing recall of obscure stuff which i love.. but the huge amount of time relating this to polls is unbelievably boring and clearly written by Ettinger, whose ability to interpret polling has been shown to be lacking lol. So I ended up absorbing nothing but a few funny bits of lore from the series

Koshin

Coming back to listen to this for no reason in particular