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Rod Blagojevich served as the Governor of Illinois from 2003-2009. In 2008, Blagojevich came under investigation for accusations of bribery around filling the U.S. senate seat vacated by Barack Obama after he became president. Blagojevich was convicted and sentenced to 14 years in federal prison. His sentence was commuted by Donald Trump in 2020.

Felix sits down with the former governor of Illinois for a freewheeling conversation on state and national Democratic politics, Blago’s time in prison, his time as Governor, and the various policy crises facing America.

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bruce

I know this is an old post but you are a fucking moron that doesn't know the first thing about interviewing somebody

Xander Norris

Late comment, but yeah, they should be able to interview Andrew Cuomo if fuckin Adam friedland can interview Chrissy

eduard karpoev

This is a really good interview, even though its over 3 years old now a lot of stuff in here is still really relevant

nathan

NO WAYYYYYY

Trevor

Wait what

S

WHAT

Joe S

Hahahahaha holy shit

pat

ahahahhhhh

EXN

holy shit! Felix baby!

PawngWater

I said the same thing

Matt

Holy shit hahahah yes!!

Robert

WHAT THE FUCK

ckoehler31

ILLINOIS IS BACK BABY

Benjamin Mitchell

I saw Will on twitter a couple days ago saying Felix had a banger lined up but never in a million years did I imagine this

Travis

lol wtf?

G

LMAOOOO

O

No fucking way Felix

Kyle Cassidy

Is this the most prominent former or current elected official the boys have ever bagged?

Basil

Ahahahahaha fucking hell

itsjenjen

Oh my fucking god

Pay

WAT

Rose

lmfao

gaylord

Let's go

Kahlil Stultz

First Gangster Boo, now Rod? Chapo’s moving up in the world.

Tyler

(sickos) yes.... Hahaha... Yes!

Isaac R.

Holy shit it’s him

Ben

Get Anthony Weiner next

veni

And here I thought India Walton was the big get. I was hoping for dril, but holy fuck I'll take this without complaint.

Squeet Deedle

simply here to add to the chorus of "lmao no fucking way"s

Alex Murarus

Most based podcast on the net

Eroq

Lmao

R

Hope he asked him about his hair

Austin Skinner

Pretty Boy Felix reclaiming the streets with Big Rod

Ian

Let's fucking go!

Greg

Yo that boy Ant Dix pix lived in my hometown. Boy just horny af

npc

Top five notifications I’ve ever received on my phone

M.R. Alchemist

God I fucking love this show so god damn much

zach

made me chortle for sure

kobs

Truly based

Christian

holy shit hahahaha

Angelo J Sibilio

I’ve almost run him over at least three times

Null_null

Felix, we love you.

Isaac Jones

When you guys teased Felix having a banger upcoming I was NOT ready for this

AbeLinkin

Nicely done, Chaps

Kevin C

Holy what hell

Memory Erasing

wait what the fuck i got a solid 5 minutes into this before i realized "you know matt is doing a really fucking good impression, hold up"

Hello!

Nice catch

Memory Erasing

seriously wtf rod blagojevich went on chapo

Brian Glatz

Wasnt expecting to do a 180 on blago today, inshallah my Illinois brother

Gio Castro

Just opened the app and I'm soyfacing so hard right now

McNuggie

What the fuck

saintbeau

what the actual fuck

Lucas Tedesco

Haha good one- oh shit this is real

Daniel Walsh

I feel like I’m not getting the joke here. Listening to an asshole like Blagojevich act lie he’s a decent guy is some of the most boring content I’ve ever heard.

Tyler

KING LMAO

tyler

holy shit lol

Nobody

Too bad he supports giving Israel money

Josh Platanitis

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gordon Schmidt

Please god tell me this interview was done in-person. Please tells me there's a picture of Felix and Rod smiling together

Gordon Schmidt

5 minutes in and I'm thinking Biden should've made Rod AG

Michael Barbarich

Cannot wait to go all in on the Rod Blagojevich/Kwame Kilpatrick SPAC.

Naked Shitter

2:19:12 ... Jesus fucking Christ.

Ian Woods

Man dropped a Sophocles quote and it didn’t sound pretentious. How. I have a new respect for Rod The Bod.

Osborne MOCs

James Adomian taking it to the next level

Vodka Grinch

I’ve heard this from a bunch of people

Tom

Holy fucking shit

Tom

They interviewed Ariel Sharon in 2016 but it was low quality audio, now only exists as an unlisted youtube upload

sM

No thank you

Playdoh

This episode is incredible, but wanted to especially thank you for standing up for Chelsea Manning Felix. Still hoping she can be a future guest! 🤞

orc

*sickos.jpg*

David Heslin

Love the way Felix dealt with that Chelsea Manning dig.

S Agsar

Ummm electoral politics much?? Can't believe Felix didn't push back when Blago said "cops are workers" smdh. Subscription. Freaking. Cancelled.

Leah Wiseman

Ohhhh yeah my home state let's goooooo

triplehashbrown

Beyond just the sheer absurdity of this, this is an exceptional interview.

Gordon Schmidt

Holy shit. Rod Blagojevich quoted Sophocles and talked about the Aryan Brotherhood's attempts to recruit him, and I'm not even an hour in

Metra Eccentric

Ugh, two minutes in. I mean he shook down a children's hospital for campaign contributions. He absolutely personally benefitted from his corruption. It was absolutely not just political horse trading. And while you can argue it was just a matter of degree compared to, like Ed Burke, shaking down a fucking Burger King in his ward, that guy rightfully got indicted as well. I think this is going to be a struggle session more than a great listen.

ceifeiro

Audio’s so good. Where was this recorded?

Crash Test Orphan

Imagine the universe where we get President Blago instead of Biden. His voice his like golden honey. I love this.

Kasz

Personally i cancelled mine long ago when Will mispronounced a Polish man's name

Kasz

Nice try CIA

Taz

If Felix trueanon pills fucking Blagojevich i might need to be admitted

Richard

Why can’t I find the Victor Frankl book they reference? Answers for Me?

Kevin C

This was awesome please try and stay in touch with this dude

Rbfen

“Democrats had the senate, they had everything, we controlled everything we could have gotten everything done” the 2008-2010 era was really the biggest fuck up in a generation of politics

AIdan Buckley

Let me tell ya, I did eight fuckin years. And for what. The likes of Barack Obama?

konradingus

Blagojevich Dolezal unity ticket

Shanana Nahhh

I love his energy re: the Iraq war. He SO wants to retract his vote.

Camille

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mike

Christ almighty this is tremendous

Michael Barbarich

Rod, just stop trying to deny shit. Just lean into it. It's gotta be tedious constantly protesting your innocence. It's certainly tedious to listen to. It's not like it's gonna change anything. Embrace it. Be the legend that you are. Brag about it, it's not like they can lock you up for it again.

ScottB

You're crazy for this one, Felix

Michael

Good interview. But Jeff Skilling is a scum bag who got what he deserved as far as I am concerned.

Joe White

This is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever heard

Emerson Kerr

This felt like Felix Biderman interviewing Tony Soprano.

Gabe

Big congrats, Felix. This was a really fucking great interview.

Gabe

Yeah that's indisputable.

Ben L

Felix always seems to exceed my expectations when it comes to interviews, great stuff here. Big props for sticking to your guns re: Chelsea’s pronouns and the cop ratio etc

Gary

Big Reformism energy aside, this was an epic interview.

Colin W.

Well he did do 8 years in prison so...

Paddyhammer

Just started the ep but this guy sounds like the small dick salesman

A C

Nice interview

Jacob Dickey

He’s like if Marianne traded good vibes for dudes rock

Comedy News

Who's Joe Kerry, who are they referring to?

josh heffernan

This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever listened to.

Smith's Fine Electric Amusements

You have to go in with the mindset of this guy is who he is: a professional bullshitter, willing to say anything to anyone to get ahead. Felix is just trying to see what he'll say. I enjoyed it over all. The two things that made me roll my eyes, not being as familiar with the details of his run as governor: all that bullshit he said about not being afraid in prison and like sitting with that black guy bravely is just completely out of his ass; when he implied that Chelsea deserved to be in jail as much or more than him when he complained about her getting pardoned and not him. Felix had to like, swallow his shock I bet and just calmly tell the loser "Well, she was tortured you know, for not doing anything that's actually wrong." What a piece of shit these assholes in government are.

Joe

Love this format: episodes where one of the crew interviews an interesting person -- I can't wait to see (hint, hint) who Matt decides to go one-on-one for a long-form interview with.

Kevin Kerby

I don’t really agree at all with this guy on politics but his very interesting

Chay

Hell yeah

Martin Frye

Def became a member for this episode.

Titivilis

The man puts the goy in Blagojevich.

IHaveHemorrhoids

Rod could've gone for 2 more hours. That was a trip of a listen

Lord-Admiral of the Pyrenees

Hahaha holy shit I should have guessed it but pretty crazy. This is some real Chapo this week - interviews with people other than other podcast hosts

Ben Petiprin

This was extraordinary. Thank you.

justdave

'I'm a little dog' - diogenes

Jordan Brewer

Tremendous interview. Blago is a really insightful guy. Killed this one Felix

Griffen Rosado

Regardless of Rods other statements and views, the fact that he seemed sincere in how his views of how the US Justice system works is incredibly heartening. Fantastic interview Felix.

Jonathan lees

Great interview it’s got it all lots to learn worth a few listens

AbeLinkin

Guy spent 14 years in federal prison just to make an example out of him. Honestly he sounds pretty great all things considered.

AbeLinkin

But I still laughed at your comment

AbeLinkin

Sure they can! If you learned nothing else from this pod it’s that Federal Prosecutors can do whatever the hell they want.

IHaveHemorrhoids

Next paywall ep: Poppy Pt 3 It's time damn it :)

justdave

The best thing you can be in prison, is a listener.

AKorgar

Illinois Grey Wolfs represent!

justdave

Once, I was 'courted' by the nazis, and their method of indoctrination was to bring me extra cookies to my cell - i would accept them, then throw them away, sorry, I just love that story. Peace Rod you're cool

Ian Priest

I had no idea Yakko Warner went to prison

BJ

They interviewed AOC

BJ

Will addressed that point substantively in the India Walton interview

AKorgar

The Assad interview was off the chain

Matt

My dad

Kyle Smyth

Rod leading the charge on campaign finance reform? #basedblago

ANDR0M

🤯🤯🤯

Doug Cartel

"Can I swear on this podcast?" "I literally joked about the head of the FBI cumming in my mouth, what do you think?"

JN

all timer interview. beautiful

S

Shut up bitch!

Graham Saunders

Great episode and some really interesting insights... Some comments make me think he was just talking a good game while burnishing his anti-establishment credentials as a pitch to Trump for the VP slot or set up his own run for the future...and that while he'd probably be better than 90% of the people currently in office - while still being as dirty and transactional as the majority of them. Lets just say it wouldnt shock me to think he'd run as a Republican outsider and stand a good chance of winning a lot of disenfranchised votes...but that should he win the only real difference would be having a blue collar mafia guy in office over a white collar one like donny

Riley Cohen

Great interview but couldn’t help but hear a little bit of Nick’s Michael Douglas in the way Rod spoke

William

Implying that Trump commuted his sentence because blago was on celebrity apprentice... Fuck. If that doesn't tell you how power works.. all the shit with Obama - lobbying him to cut the sentence, basically the ' laws ' are just the thin cardboard between competing forces of power pushing against each other

William

The laws don't matter for shit - that seems like the hardest part for blago to deal with

Clean Shirt Piggie

Sorry but Blago is lying about believing the Iraq wmd vote. Just a pure political play

Bryan Jennings

So many things to love about this interview, but the best is absolutely how many times he asks Felix if it's okay to curse

Twitch Hunt!

One of the best episodes of chapo released in months. Absolutely great listen.

Kasz

Prison habits are hard to break

Gabriel Bowater

this shit is fucking golden and I'm going to save it on my hardrives etc

Kasz

Weird fap but ok

Jack

Dead serious he should link with Kim and Kanye if he’s serious about prison abolition. I feel like Kanye would be down

orc

He sounds like ray liotta in goodfellas

Tyler Hanel

Is this episode considered Blago-house?

beats_on_repeat

Blago: Fuck that fat bastard if I see that motherfucker I'll kick his ass. Also Blago: I'm grateful for the opportunity I had to truly study the bible and to connect with my Christian roots

Ernest Ambrus

What a great interview. It's interesting the way Rod goes between self aggrandizement and genuineness. A careerist that never had a thought about the wider world unless it can be centered on himself. I'd vote for this dude tomorrow. Dog catcher for the people.

Nick Perri

That was awesome. He obviously is still a “center left” type but the willingness to engage honestly makes him so preferable compared to a Warren type.

Desmond Lyons

Fuck this guy, I really don’t care for these interviews with people whose views are irrelevant and meaningless

Beatz

Great interview, I really care for these interviews with people whose views are irrelevant and meaningless

otis

Yeah, best title

Kasz

The irony of this

William

This ep is a great example of what it actually takes to make deals and get things done. Explains so many things that crybaby moral purists and ideological hardliner cosplayers don't understand, which is why they're on Twitter and not in power. After this, I'm basically sold on the idea that Blago know how to use power

will michel

(guy who compulsively tries to fit in) lmao no way

David Andrews

Excellent interview. Good to hear the governor's perspective.

David Andrews

Man is full of contradictions. :)

James

Can I curse in this Patreon comment section?

Will McCauley

This rocked, Blago is the fucking man

James Houtsma

Echoing the sentiment that Minnesota is absolutely cursed. Thank you.

absoluteboi

i like this just on the premise

lyle menendez

"I don't like that fat fuck anymore"....worth the listen.

justdave

I still pace bro

Chase Koches

Investigative journalist award goes to David

justdave

*slaps the hood*

Chris Hildreth

When I read the email I didn’t believe it……..

Kasz

Rod is truly a man of faith. He gets fucked over by the system and still stumps for it. Not judging, just fascinated.

Bill

His prison stories are wild. Like something you'd see on tv

Ben

Blago what’s wrong with raising state taxes to pay for services?

dead loser

Still disinfecting my groceries. I didn't leave my house between March and May last year. Still got sick. Still sick today. Call me crazy if you want. Give me the last year of my life back and i'll chill out then. Anyway, great interview. Nice job, Felix.

THOMAS GIBBONS

I'd listen to the Felix and Blago weekly roundup. This rocks.

ESP

I live in Illinois and this interview changed my (negative) view of Rod. The AllKids healthcare program is the reason my daughter had healthcare (dental too which I never could have afforded) while I got through college. I’d vote for him many times over for getting that done. Wish I could tell him thanks.

Gabriel Jones

Boring, pointless interview. Guess all it takes for a bunch of dsa types to fawn over a hilariously corrupt Democrat is a few curse words sprinkled on a pile of clichés

Jacob

hater

Maxiumite

Great interview, good job Felix

Dk .

Chill out family

Gordon Schmidt

Man he talks exactly like my dad and uncles who went to prison, right down to the “these motherfuckers” it’s so uncanny

THEKILLERWHALE

Yeah, my niece and nephew grew up on that. I remember thinking that it was surprisingly progressive for Illinois that they had a health insurance program for kids. Never associated it with the man. Good on him.

greg

"i thought he was his nephew for some reason"

Rusty

What you want em to interview some nobody PSL scold instead?

Drew

This was so good. Thanks to Felix for being weird lol

Drew

Realizing all I know about the case is what Jon Stewart told me to believe

Alex B

This is possibly the best episode to date

Evelyn B

as a lifelong resident of both chicago and now northwest indiana i always heard the media story behind Blagojevich and never really have been able to hear his side of things. after hearing this, i can confirm i am blago pilled. an absolutely amazing interview felix

THEKILLERWHALE

Everyone is always talking about the 'next Trump', but maybe we've found the man? He has made a very compelling case for being way ahead of the pack on healthcare in particular. Totally anti-establishment given that the establishment literally locked him in jail. And a very old school charisma. Blago 2024? As an independent? Or maybe Trump's running mate?

Ben

Dude used his elected position to sell a senate seat. Put more governors in prison, it seems to encourage introspection.

Ben

Like as governor he presided over a huge prison system. Gets locked up and suddenly realizes there’s injustice in the system he previously benefited from. I feel for his daughters, but this is like when Republican pols decide they’re ok with gays bc they have a gay son.

Joe White

His political comeback is gonna be even more precipitous than Nixon’s

vermouth

I hate boring episodes

Mark Schneider

Prison Rehab Tours gotta start somewhere. Felix was pretty kind to his homeboy on the whole.

Robert

I spent like 6 years on Twitter posting “FREE ROD BLAGOJEVICH” at least a few times per week. I about shit when Trump let him out. And now you sons a bitches got him on to tell his story. Great work.

etienne

to me a good Chapo episode is when Will reads the news paper for precisely 57 minutes then Matt says "superstructure" and "contradictions" a couple times and Felix wishes death on a senior citizen occupying a congress seat

Neil Harris

Fascinating interview, great ep, Felix was an excellent interviewer; knowledgeable and respectful. I am born and raised and still live in downstate IL. I've always thought they made a scapegoat of Blagojevich and hit him with a draconian, cruel sentence. Glad he's getting something of a chance to get his story out. Also I highly recommend his cameos. I had him do a happy birthday for my dad last year, a retired union laborer, and Rod's vid brought a tear to my eye, really went above and beyond.

Comedy News

Sounds like a healthy human with perspective to me!

snafujesus

Pretty sure he cursed like a motherfucking sailor before he went away

Camille

Tbh I think Rod is just uninformed on Chelsea lol, Felix pushed back immediately when he said that too?

Acetate909

Holy shit, it's really him. After reading the description I assumed it would be some kind of bit with an actor. Anyway, good stuff. Felix in Charlie Rose emoji mode.

Comrade Trash Panda

"I'm not a socialist. Socialism failed and it steals freedom..." I'm eternally fascinated with people who are against Socialism but cannot define it. I have yet to meet a single person who was both against Socialism and could accurately define it. I have a good friend at my job who wants the de-commodification of all basic human needs and thinks workers should be in charge of their workplaces yet also says Socialism is wrong and "evil" because it takes away "freedom". These people aren't stupid they've just been robbed of the basic language in which to articulate their material condition and to express their interests. Ideology is a hell of a drug

pat

Enjoying blagos apparent desire for theocracy

Kamran Husain

my dads was surgeon for 50+ years i was born in 1997 and the last time i had a primary practitioner was middle school

tyler

felix gonna turn Blagojevich into a RFK truther

Camille

Sure but like, just because his path to revelation got started when he personally got burned doesn’t mean his conclusion about the justice system is wrong.

Conor

glad yakko warner finally out of jail

justdave

Shut it down guys, the Gordons have become self aware

Ben

Yes exactly

Toby

Very interesting conversation, thank you.

Of course

Dolezal: exactly the next person Felix must resuscitate. If the libs can champion the Bush family and all the neocons...

vermouth

I wish chapo still did bits

Hog_bawls

Saying ya follow me and talking about my boy “Spade”

AKorgar

I was genuinely surprised too, I mean he's clearly not a comrade or whatever, but I found him very interesting to listen to, and it is clear that he's pretty well read. Gave me a new perspective on his trial and jailing too

AKorgar

That whole quote by Bismarck about it being better to not see the sausage being made never stops being relevant

AKorgar

The swear jar that Felix had sitting next to him kept throwing him off

AKorgar

It's the human condition

epb

That was amazing, Blagojevich was a lot more earnest and candid than I expected.

Mr. Lobotomy

maybe Matt interviews Ventura?

Blake Patraw

this was the first great episode in a couple weeks, truly amazing interview with a fascinating person. thank you felix for setting this up and conducting a fantastic interview

Blake Patraw

also, i LOVE that this is over two hours long. it would've been a shame to cut this short for some arbitrary time limit. god damn this is so good ive never been happier to be a patron sub this is awesome

syd

I need this to happen

je

Please for the love of god unlock this one

John Abress

The GOAT of Chapo interviews. The two greatest sons of Illinois.

Woke Batou

Been a gray wolf since like 2014 or whatever and this is the best interview so far. Outstanding. Felix absolutely rules in a Joe Rogan longform format

Blake B

Blago is one tough MF! I can’t say I wouldn’t have broken down under similar (immense!) pressures… and s/o Celebrity Apprentice

Woke Batou

Yeah we don't talk about political economy in this country and that's intentional. I had a full PhD political science professor tell us "socialism is when the government does something"

Generic Driver

Am I the only one who sees this asshole as diet Trump?

Andrew

Frankle is such a life changer for so many people. It introduces existentialism in such a simple and digestible way…great interview, Rod is dope.

Greg

Outstanding Ep

Scot Forsythe

My dad was a ward heeler who also did time for what he believed in the 80’s this resonated with me despite myself damn Felix ✊🏾

Isaac Suárez

I don’t agree with a lot of Rod’s politics but, damn, good freaking interview. Way better than I expected.

Ebby

Absolutely this.

j

Will he be the American Napoleon…

Kindrid Parker

One of the best goddamn interviews you assholes have done.

Oliver Z Neill

10/10 banger episode. Thanks Felix and blago

HarshMalarkey

Like a dude came stumbling out of a time machine from 2010 shouting "dont trust these fat fucks"

Christopher Price

yeah, pushed back immediately and did a good job of linking up the issues. With the news you gotta cut Blago some slack since he was in jail for like a decade.

Bryan Skinner

Have we found our Bullworth? #findingBullworth

jer

Very good interview. Hats off to Felix for his thoroughness in this one. Admirable that Felix defended Chelsea Manning and gave other gentle pushback when appropriate. Also, mentioning PAs when talking about healthcare is always good to hear.

Cole Heideman

Idk who this guy is but Felix did a good interview

Broken Carrot

I’m guessing most of the audience isn’t old enough to remember or isn’t from Illinois where they’d have heard the bullshit that Blago ran on and then tried to govern on: Here’s what always pissed me off about Blago: his entire campaign was based around being an anti-corruption southern Illinois guy in opposition to the chicago/Springfield corruption that was the standard. Now be he’s out here pretending he never was and his blatant corrupt bullshit was normal for him and not explicitly what he said he was fighting against. Trying to rehab him now is beyond ridiculous.

Blake Patraw

this might be my favorite episode ever, for sure since Bernie's campaign ended. god damn this was fascinating

Blake Patraw

just look him up, he used to be the gov of Illinois

Blake Patraw

he knows exactly how to get shit done in this country. amber would've been great in this ep because she has very similar opinions in thar regard. you can be an aoc and effect nothing or you can be a blago and give hundreds of thousands of children healthcare

Jim

Waiting for the Felix mini-series with various strange interviews, experts & characters tenuously involved on: Syria, Israel/bds & Chicago politics. The few crazy esoteric subjects Felix seems to have latched onto/sunk his teeth into and rolled over &digested like an alligator or That pit by Jabba the hut for 1-2decades… Poor bastid Chris wade’ll hafta load 10,000 + hours if Nixon tapes worth/style to edit as a life sentence with a bibliography a mile long. I’m not a gamer or fast reader that retains every name, detail and who was in what band when for the most absurd esoteric imaginative , so video games and weird authors like all of Karl Ove other 10,000 hours are likely to be lost… …auditory more free form not condensed down or with pause queues to back read on it can be challenge, but allows multi tasking & somewhat more passive listening (not like true analog radio/no data tracking or annoying audience feedback, but whatever such are the times).

The Mad Mango

Find me a single person who isn’t a walking contradiction.

Jim

What an interesting time warp…I remember reading about it at the time and knew right away who this guy was at some basic level of recognition, though I stand before you now with more questions and knowing I probably know less about this than I might have imagined before at the time…

Jim

Just sounds like a man sorta outta the time warp last of his kind late boomer urban machine politic ?Catholic??? It’s kinda endearing that he, like so many his age and politically aspiring sort, in various seemingly (to at least people my age or perhaps felixs) contradictory ways, thinks/or speaks in such a way expressing the thought that much/many of those institutions have capacity for community or aren’t corrupted or materially or socially constricted beyond repair or any practical utility. Idk how reliable his answers and then story he tells is, but it has a resonance and hard to fault someone for reading Frankl and staying connected to a corrupt father in law, brother and married somehow and expressing the difficulty of that if true.

Jim

Not a resident, but remember the story from the time coming and going thru my brain fairly frictionlessly as a little ‘ huh that’s a weird story’ footnote (stories still had a little staying power memory in my 3 brain cells before senility then) to maybe hear of later in the obungler early haze/halo after he kicked reverent Wright to the curb, before it made conservatives fully insane after obungler was in longer and ya idk how true it is, but then as now ‘there’s more to this given who this guy is connected to’ than the prosecution or media is saying was I guess my thought? I still take it with a huge grain of salt and uh…I wish Felix would maybe work a little harder to get more out of people in interviews, but he’s getting better and more organized maybe?…progress it seems? Felix is becoming a more skilled interviewer for long form more leading questions, giving people room for their ticks/awkward or corny mannerisms, imperfections, differences and tastes or distastes…and his seeming compass/spidey sense for finding something or someone forgotten or overlooked that’ human with novelty or meaning in a grim lonely, atomized time of bad copy recyclables simulation and self absorbed masturbation in a sea of lizards , cyborgs & time serving dusty dead inside hacks.

Nicholas Bekker

Subbed just for this interview and it was worth every penny. Incredible interview

Jim

Is this a rehab or overly penglossian to you? Idk that Felix is trying to sell us on the guy or rehab him? I did jury shorthand and would do city council or was present in chambers as a young kid (different city) and often thought, even when we had some halfway halfass alright local newspapers that they’d miss stuff or report it I such a way that was definitely different from what I saw for not necessarily even cynical or biased reasons or even lazy reasons…just something got lost in translation or a really salient detail or hinge point didn’t make it. Subscription quasi infotainment media/crowd sourced model has its shortcomings too…as a friend said about chapo (not entirely on entirely identitsrisn grounds) ‘why would I get all my news from 3 (white I think he said??….I no care just wanna know if it’s good or useful). guys in Brooklyn’? Why indeed? Or entertainment or opinions/takes either? I listened to bad faith podcast by accident in passing interviewing a mayoral candidate from a far away city I happened to live in snd person I’d seen in passing snd had very different impressions of and the questions and framing I thought was completely hopeless, salient context or hinge points got totally lost in translation or poorly researched or totally fawning . Total servile squawk/fawn and troll fest. I don’t even totally blame the hosts as individuals completely with the incentive structure in media these days. The shape of this interview /narrative story I got, (unsure about content or truth…caveat emptor ) was like the goodfellas sorta story Scorsese gives us, except if Henry Hill didn’t flip as a rat or snitch and still had some hope in him however deminished and didn’t think of himself as a loser or nobody and also reflected on some of his mistakes and shortcomings as governor and how the situation arose that he himself easily ignored prisoners plight and how the ‘justice’ system ‘works’ (for who? When? How?) and has regrets for not using his power at little cost to help some prisoners. Self selecting system tho anymore I’m afraid… That in itself i thought was fun and worth thinking about, if also painful, not completely original or polished into a masterpiece as an art piece and a bit bleak? Is Blago trying to scam us/get on air to self promote or pretend to be human or become a Tony Robbins media careerist and or televangelist scammer type? Maybe? Should we blame Felix for ‘platforming’ him to us rubes on a paid subscription? Who’s paying the sub/checking up on the story or are there better stories? I thought it was an interesting bizarro Henry hill-esque in interview form and let it swirl around in the old noggin. I didn’t come off thinking blago was my BFF or everything he said were words to take as gospel just as I didn’t watch goodfellas and think ‘Henry hill & his dudes is cool!!!’ At the end? Is it amazing and rigorous journalism or knockoff entertainment…what is this? I also got no effing clue what mind palace you live in where any politician, much less a senator or gov isn’t at best pretty beholden to whoever put em there even if more bottom up populist/socialist class conscious pressure well exerted, to corrupt in petty graft machine ways to outright evil and/or totally capital captured? I admire how smart and what a cut throat resentful mercenary fuck Nixon was. Backwards class wise and viciously red baiting and war criminal. But also how uncomfortable and awkward he looks in his own body and how square and paranoid somehow makes him very human with so many sides and depth. Rehab & resentment/recrimination does get bandied around a lot these days… …nothing Felix is doing to a handful of us hopeless dorks struck me as anywhere near as gross or outright noxiously evil as having to see David Frum (& as bad or worse) on msnbc to this day or other various disgusting lying war criminals to audiences of Millions of tv addicted boomer homeowners that vote in dem primaries & believe the TV. Seeing what a slimy, disingenuous passive aggressive servile worm Frum was in 1988 on cspan book tv rebroadcast of Canadian journalists round table with Chomsky on manufacturing consent really gives an amazing preview to what a vile reprehensible creature he is and probably always has been his entire long adult life before he really got rolling to continue to sell forever wars that have probably killed millions and immiserates countless.

Memory Erasing

in the likely event of his drone striking by bho, i humbly propose the podcast be renamed in his memory. blago's trap house

Jim

Typical Catholic boomer to me? As Upton Sinclair said: ‘Americans aren’t necessarily hostile to socialism, but they won’t take the name!’ People are products of their time. When he was coming up the whole media monoculture was 100% focused on the horrors of the Soviet Union (many of which were factual/real enough) and didn’t have a lot to do with socialism but it was a good deal for the soviets to promote it as communism and a good deal for the American media to highlight its horrors as state socialism or communism as Chomsky often sez. A lot of boomers lived at the peak of new deal redistribution material benefit with socialist pressure and were part of *some* kind of machine or community in cities (or at least some of them) religious or otherwise. At least that’s how I see it/ doesn’t surprise me at all nor do I blame the thought for being expressed as the interviewee does and is somewhat useful/certainly resonant if nothing else for Catholic boomer relatives who aren’t necessarily un-altruistic or evil. In fact as I see my wealthier customers/millennial anxiety cases have families and be grasping careerist selfish clawing pieces of shit that married the first girl that was nice to them, I believe there’s no magic to youth or generation or they woulda acted better. We go about a lot of this all wrong…as David Graeber said; ‘we often go through this thrashing rebellious phase, rather than looking back and keeping the good or useful instructive parts from our youth.’ Don’t shoot the messenger just because the message is distasteful or makes things seem hopeless or dishonest/unreliable narrator sometimes?

Jim

Imagine your formative years as a mid-late boomer you benefit and take for granted the socialist redistribution from the new deal/out of the depression capital crisis, are part of a Catholic community (even if it’s patriarchial and constricting), Democrat party machine politics works for you at all/maybe less bad than repub-li-goon country club corporate rule, and the corporate media extols the horrid if the Soviet Union and China ‘communist’ or ‘socialist’ system and you worry they’re going to nuke you at any moment? Makes sense. And the Soviet Union did squeeze a lot of peasants horrifically into paste/ famine going feudal decaying backwater to a sorta bad consumption/nationalist clumsy industrializing capitalist competitor in very few years within living memory of multiple generations in one region / very few years.

Jim

Sure the Soviet’s didn’t have much to do with communism or socialism but with the media background snd cia and invisible us empire surrounding it and calling it that abd th Soviets calling it that for different reasons, not everyone is going to compare it to the horrors/deaths of ~500 years of emerging state capitalist models (if that’s even relevant and tedious as the people making that esoteric comparison). Ignorance isn’t a hanging offense or sin, right?

THEKILLERWHALE

I started this week hating Rod Blagojevich and loving Kim Stanley Robinson ... but here we are.

Jim

Someone yelling like Bernie sanders called a ‘socialist’ by a hostile media growing up with that background can really harsh the buzz of the later boomer libs younger than Bernie but still old and not able to deal with their soon death, comfortable in a nice protected asset house they own that vote in dem primaries or part of that system talking about material conditions and not culturally familiar or identity ones? He reminds them of their failures/things they maybe took for granted snd indulged uh they’d rather not think about , that they’re out of touch with a pissed off younger generation, and he’s kinda outta touch too or likely to be unable to do much or get shot with the heart attack gun. It’s unfortunate, it’s but we know now, right? Winds only blowing one way / sometimes there isn’t a practical off ramp, opportunity for s negotiated gentler landing or change of course option or never really was on the table? Might never know…

Jim

A true Rod head!

Torgeir Tannenwald

been loving your content lately! I'd really love for you guys to check in on Britain and its pending supply chain collapse! would just love that! I apologize to anyone from the UK reading this but I haven't felt this amount of schadenfreude since Israel lost the 2006 Lebanon war.

Jim

Worked out fine for Goldman Sachs/similar vampires, DNC consultants and fundraisers, lobbyists, health insurance companies, the democrat excuse machines & media careerists, smart war and the total romp slaughter 2010+ for republicans in state senates, governors & federal and elected judges! So far anyway…depends how you look at it and when? IDK so much ‘fuck up’ as ‘sell out your base on minute 1?’ Never voted for or did anything or got excited for Obungler, not for any noble or enlightened reason or strong like or dislike either. I was just a pos slacker shit head at the time kinda that got some small assist and chose a shitty state college and stayed there miserably a bit too long and was in process of doing side jobs and scraping out a living tax free, so who’s president then (and now too really) didn’t matter much.

AbeLinkin

Trump wouldn’t survive 14 years in high security federal prison

Matelda

Not a Trump fan but would definitely pay $5 for a 2-hour Felix-Trump interview

Andrew Fedje, Conduit of Corn

I'll be honest, when I first saw this in the feed, I thought it was one of the troll interviews, like Gorka. But this was really insightful. I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but hearing this discussion, especially when it comes to war zones in America, shined a light on stuff that doesn't get talked about enough and gave me some new perspectives. Thanks.

JK

absolute ep 10/10

John S

Can't believe this guy had the experiences he had with US attorneys and ended up in prison and still thinks 90% of cops are 'good'.

JP

Stellar ep. One of the best 2 hours of listening I’ve enjoyed.

THEKILLERWHALE

His take on Obama is actually the best I have seen from a public figure or politician. His notion of political capital is a bit simplistic and self-serving, but thinking of Obama as a guy more interested in maintaining an image than getting things done fits the facts more than any 12-d chess explanation by his fawning contemporaries.

safetyconesavior

This is pure conjecture but I live on Blagos block and there were two drive bys right in front of his house last night. Probably unrelated 🤷‍♂️

Jim

Federal prison cops actually kinda aren’t bad in my limited keyhole view; their incentive structure isn’t a publicly funded Union/cartel /huge carrot to get to murder any of the local population they want w/impunity or to be border patrol frei corps/gestapo. They’re usually managing a relatively stable not especially restive and predictably fed or ‘cared for?’ Or ‘sustained’ (as in sustainenance) with at least sufficient resources/not a ton of overcrowdin mg population etc and fairly decent facilities. They’re usually a semi educated &/or ex military guy that’s just serving time themselves in a shithole town where there’s a huge federal prison without a lot else going on doing their time for their federal pension and getting sufficient pay and benefits compared to their other options that they can feed their family in the anerican hell scape. Most of them don’t get off in harassing people in those facilities…I mean it’s American prison generally so it ain’t good and there a huuuuuge # of people in it forever for petty bs, but especially the ones chock full of non violent drug dealers and smugglers %75 with insanely long sentences moreso than big time monied organized crime murderers and rapists (those people don’t get caught or prosecuted.) But I get the sense that Blagos also a guy that wants to believe in the system to a degree too. The prosecutors and fbi scumbags and careerists already got theirs, once he’s dumped in federal prison or some drug dealer or mentally ill teen or Ted kaczinski type is warehoused outta public oversight outta mind snd they’ve got their promotion/a bigger budget/glowing media narrative they’ve got theirs/done their job! How many women that carry out the tasks of their male superiors or get beat up just normalize it or are comforted by the familiarity more than imagining it could be better or different or have something better to compare it to? I’d wager a lot… Doesn’t surprise me here either even though the character seems like kind of a credulous classic machine politics petty corrupt dupe/dope that somehow made it to governor and got in way over his head m and did a little more than the powers that be liked to try to help and make some deals is more the shape of it to me? Doesn’t make him a saint or not full or uninformed or internal contradictions or not petty corrupt, right? But overall cop being a full time job with overtime pay that we rely on for a ton of stuff that the average person often thinks are in the business/ function of city ‘cleanup’, crime prevention or deterrence in a broken society given military gear/trained by Israel’s occupying last settler colonial apartheid psychos and a tax funded cartel/union no mayor or city council can easily break is likely to encourage bad behavior. At best cops investigate diligently, inquisitively and carefully as a member of the community upholding presumption of innocence and are honest ‘crime accountants’ more than anything else & prisons give people time away to be housed and rehabbed with additional caring life skills and cop is a part time/ can’t be a full time job. I only say this as a guy who’s relatives owned a lumber mill. The security detail guy also worked in the mill and stayed out there with his dog and a flashlight/few things in a small town. Ok so private security, no Union, not full time, other skills in the mill shop floor than being a cop. We as a society can make public policing more like that, but it won’t be easy/will take a ton of work to try to prevent the call or rely on police less. The police cartel and militarization (military being the most enduring institution) as the empire comes home is too big a rock/Boulder to get leverage to shift or nut to crack as is right now…prioritize efforts elsewhere where you’re likely to have some (even incremental) success & not burn out rather than just outing yourself & whining all cops are evil/pigs? We’re really sowing seeds for a brutal crackdown/backlash here in Portland and lying to ourselves about how terrible it’s likely to be or ‘it won’t happen here, we’re different!’ I try to warn people what the Bronx looked like in 1979-1981 and everything that got built and the subsequent crackdowns under various scumbag developers & mayors (guliani &bloomberg) & surveillance and physical crackdowns thereafter and how that’s turned out and how much they got scammed building luxury lofts and sports stadiums at tax payer expense even as boring white bread law abiding tax payers that didn’t feel the tip of the spear first, necessarily. Or look at Hell.A in 1992. Timber, port town losing the contract snd oregon being the constitutionally exclusionary state for freedmen from inception in a pivotal year (1859) and giving a total of 6 approved fixed rate home loans to black people up to 1986 in a town of 500,000 & near dead last to ratify bussing or the brown v board decision with little suburban white flight/urban growth boundary to control sprawl in the 70s meant it’s all come at once snd late here for de industrialization, suburban flights & urban gentrification, yuppie invasion/climate bolt hole (we shall see after the 116 degree heat wave) etc. We ignored others plight and now it’s happening here all at once with more outside agitation and a brand new giant federal FBI building built in the 2010s when real estate didn’t crash here that much and climate snd environmental activism was known to have a presence. It’s/all the things that hit other places are happening all at once in a way shorter time here and it’s provoking s big reactionary snd both sides of mouth lying to each other before a sellout/ Freakout…fearing the backlash. Figuring out how to get socal rat racers and overly comfortable retirees money that got a California house for a nickel after WW2 to before 1980 and paid no taxes on it that they get to sell for 2 million still even tho half their shithole states on fire / no water and a car/freeway centric segregated cesspool of humanity/ shithole money on entry or excluding the shittiest socal rat racers and yuppies that ruined their home land / didn’t do the hard work to build a durable community and make the worst neighbors ever coasting on their loot from SoCal not wanting to change themselves/insisting you change or be displaced would sure be nice!

Ian Fletcher

I think CTH just found someone to do color commentary on election night.

Jim

Keyhole hearsay, but it does have that ring/ resonance in full color 100% from someone closer to it than most. Totally agree on both counts tho.

Jim

Other than his father in law owning a garbage business and 60% of landfill content being construction waste and the garbage & developer weasel & construction & garbage biz being often connected/similar levels Of corrupt, broadly or that he’s a politician at all, no, not really? Trump always shouted like a drama queen bitch from his window that he’d call the cops on kids that had a ball go over his fence, allegedly and inherited everything he got from his dad who got public money to build ‘affordable’ housing for poor people and excluded as many of the poorer he could to make his $. Trump has been useful as a conduit for money laundering and tax avoidance and celebrity mascot and never had to face the music in his life. I think the shape of this story is blago ceased to be useful to the new DNC make work program for grasping careerists and consultants as the last vestige of the old patronage machine. Maybe he wants a media career or to be a celeb now, hard to tell exactly or what use that’ll be to him or anyone else or if the media career house of cards isn’t about to collapse (unless we’re just going to do the British thing and every old cynical pos just works at the news or in media as a weird make-work program until they die as the anglosphere dying empire worlds cryer/whiner model..,that’s gonna peg the obnoxious meter and really be lame/suck oof), I think felixs point that there’s so few of even those great society ward healers from a bygone machine age. Biden isn’t in substance (he rode the watergate New Democrat wave), but he is in method and educational and class background. Ed Markey maybe on the federal level or governor or senator level? He’s nothing special / no prize and we can’t even go back to the machine politics and it wasn’t great either but compared to these clawing greedy little rats now it’s nice to get a a little study of a dinosaur once in a while? Markey even got primaried but idk they probably figure time is in their side/he’ll be dead soon and in typical incompetent fashion they really picked a late hapsbergian losing candidate who didn’t even want it in JK3. Sadly all his consultants, grasping campaign careerists & donors are probably still laying in the cut in Mass for their next shot once Markey dies or retires.

MC Ritz

I feel like this podcast changed me. I think if their was press around this interview it could change the world.

Logan

That would be dope

Logan

😭

Michael Austin

Someone I disagree with on a lot of things but seems absolutely sincere to the core. Very very interesting

Yacobum

He’s clearly wanting to run for office again but as a republican.

Jimmy McMillan

Is this the most Christian episode they ever made? If a politician is ever thrown in jail, it's because they pissed off industry or some other higher power. Just look at what Andy Cuomo did in comparison. One sexual harassment charge is a tragedy. 10,000 senior homicides are a statistic

Logan

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I’m not sure I’ve heard a more definitive bullshitting politician voice than Rod’s lol. Felix did a great job, absolutely loved this interview, Rod should write a book about his time in prison.

MC Ritz

Follow this up with a Cuomo interview, would be amazing to hear pierced nipples drop some eye-tal-ian fucking f bombs. Eh 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼

MC Ritz

He destroyed O in my view.

MC Ritz

I thought he was a jewel thief? Shit I’m confused now

Jim

In the Matt-Felix taxonomy of ; -Congressman- most unemployable oaf / shit head in arbitrarily gerrymandered given district halfway competently taking bribes and approving latest military industrial or sleazy real estate scam boondoggle. -senator; usually sleaziest and most evil public figure in your state…or defacto not in your state *cough* gadsby/ Ron wyden for us (he and his wife literally live in NY when not in D.C. lol) , or evidently formerly evil segregationist in Kalifornia Feinstein but her brain’s now unavailable for comment/ her consultants are looking to glom onto the next one or supplant her. Some states as long as they maximize the loot they bring back from D.C., can be maximally emperor palpentine in appearance & evil they just send them to D.C for like 50 years…MA (democrat Death Star, military & biotech research / elite university incubator) , AZ (central aqueduct to hike sunbelt suburbs for retiring reactionaries, golf courses and farm in the desert with lots of sun / long season.) AK (oil industry/last frontier), DE (banking tax dodge state and DuPont chemical land give the peasants a little federal something while you’re at it…thanks joe lol). -Governor (constrained to an actual constitutional state not necessarily military occupied zone or territory such as thats a meaningful difference…ymmv on that) Sorta a localized and mixture of the two above with IMO way more variation in character in some ways and less in others for those selected by the incentive structure to seek that office; -states can’t run deficits in their budgets constitutionally often and capacity is often low to junp in/ intervene in private business or s big crisis, avoiding blame may be difficult or seeking higher office after a big scandal your goose can definitely be cooked if things go badly and you can’t bury all the stories like w Bush and Clinton did and times go bad, people kinda remember you. -state constitutional structures vary widely for governor powers. -states vary wildly in other ways (size, economy at a given time, terrain, resources, population etc etc. But broadly the governor does often have *some* powers to intervene and various connected family members to contractors (tho finance capital connected governors are often suspicious to constituents or unpopular so they aren’t all just go between between finance and contractors/tax free real estate like mayors of major cities often are ). I think of this gov as a guy who definitely was seeking higher power like a Nixon like figure but less resentful and more honest and comfortable in his body/less insecure. Also first Democrat since like 1972. Got in way over his head touching the radioactive evil that is the loooong bench of evil people/strivers in a democrat Death Star state like NY or IL even worse as IL has even fewer open spaces for a climber and democrat available. I think he thought he could make s deal to advance s material issue for his constituents for the senate seat and didn’t realize that the feds and everyone else would make a better deal for themselves and keep the competition out is the shape of the story I get/dude got in way over his head and is also kinda last of his kind in immigrant patronage urban democrat machine to win state office (not just Chicago area). Actually tried to enact a couple too many things dems pretend to care about as the first dem governor that didn’t come from the background most and make a deal as gov and got a raw deal for himself. Don’t really agree with his analysis or professed positions but the story snd getting 14 years for something that’s already sewn up and decided I most democrat Death Star states if a senator advances to other office, corporate board or dies was worth the listen and any gossip of various skeazy IL names I hadn’t heard in a bit for some time!

Kathy

This is one of the best interviews ever recorded.

syd

This is one of the more interesting interviews I’ve listened to in a while, massive kudos to Felix

Rene Saller

Truly superb. I hope you invite him back sometime.

kelsey

*grasps breath* Some very long run-on sentences there!

Good brain haver

Sorry to go against everyone but this sucked. Totally sycophantic. Feliz was wowed by Blago and it showed. RB: "I liked Nixon," Felix: "yeah!" RB: "Nixon, he was a self-made man, and he never quit." Felix: "Yeah." ... ... ... ... Cool show dudes.

Good brain haver

Felix: "do you think we should have stayed out of Afghanistan?" RB: "I would say, go in quickly, do what you got to do... And get out." Felix: "We did a deep dive on Afghanistan and the Taliban was ready to give up bin laden, but it seems like we just wanted to invade." RB: "Could be." Felix: [changes subject] ... ... ... Wow. Really nailed him to a wall there! "Could be" is the most classic snake non-commit politician's answer in the book, and Felix is just like, 'welp, nothing more to cover there, how about an anecdote?' Just an absolute spoon feeding. Blago ran the table like it was a warm-up.

Comedy News

At least he says there needs to be a third (and fourth party).. how do we start one...

Terry Stack

Excellent interview! I disagree with Rob, socialism is the only system that can save us from Capitalist tyranny. We must overthrow bourgeois governments and establish Workers states. An economy democratically controlled by the workers is the only hope for humanity henceforth.

Nathan

Idk who Jim is here in the comments but he needs to chill lol

Steve Emmons

very interesting. Obviously Rod is a classic Chicago machine dem but still very interesting

Of course

No need to talk about Felix that way.

Of course

In all the years - on Patreon, Twitter, Reddit, and YouTube comments - I never saw a listener say, "Rod Blagojevich, go on Chapo"... Is it possible these guys don't care what we think?

Valerie

Those are certainly all words.

John Swan

Man I guess all you have to do is say “Obama bad, machine politics good. I’m a patsy” and you’ll get Felix to polish your knob with out a shred of criticality or self awareness. But cool. There’s a name I thought I never cared about and after 2 hours of listening to some washed out power broker complain I can say I still do not give the slightest fuck about Rod Blagojevich. Cool.

Sam7sf Enjoyer

ITT: The death of nuance. Yeah the dude was a shitlib, no doubt. Yeah he said some dumb shitlib stuff that Felix didn't nail him on. But that was not the point of this interview, people. He wasn't trying to debate the guy, just put on display the the bullshit that occurs in establishment politics when your chosen to be a scapegoat. Also the failure of the justice system that would give a guy an unheard of sentence because he wouldn't take a plea deal and snitch. Not to mention the irony of a guy like Trump commuting his sentence. The guy sucked but it was an interesting story.

Xinic5

Wow, crazy bro...

John Swan

So you claim the thread is the death of nuance and then Describe the lack of nuance in the episode. Gotcha.

Kenno

In Australia where Fucken public healthcare

Kenno

Our dog conservatives are gonna fuck good healthcare

Kenno

The only cunt that fights is it is ourliberal govt.

Kenno

The only way to fight it is to not tell people how smart we are.

Kenno

It’s just be part of others

Kenno

It won’t get any where.

Kenno

The yanks world just doesn’t have unionsit is the same way

Kenno

The teachers are the best

Kenno

In Oz they are one of the best Unions

Kenno

They’re are the best also in west verginia

Kenno

Fuck the liberals fuck the labor party

Kenno

Yank shit is garbage

Kenno

Public housing is the greatest thing you can do. Make jobs for people. It’s easy to make jobs.

Kenno

Govt employs people to build things.

Kenno

The govt can never be trusted. But the govt can employ people.

Kenno

Who cares if you don’t trust them. You give a job, 100% that everyone will take that job.

Kenno

Just employ people. Jobs will taken.

Kenno

If your poor, if your right wing, if your left wing, you have a job? It will be taken.

Kenno

It’s because Americans live in a place that have the least amount of trust of any country in the world.

Kenno

Americans have the least amount of trust than anyone in the world.

Kenno

A white Australian can trust my fellow man more than I can trust you

Kenno

.apologies

Brendan A. MacWade

I found this interview interesting, but we have to admit that Felix went easy on the former governor. I'm a little sympathetic to the way his case escalated. The original sentence was harsh. I find it fascinating that a man as ugly as this was elected governor of a big state. But there is no denying that he is a dirty politician. A convicted felon. I look forward to Chapo interviewing the Cuomo brothers someday?

Chris Hildreth

A “felon”. The point is that if the law were applied to every other politician they’d also be considered a felon. The law is arbitrary when it’s applied selectively. It’s just a weapon of your opponent when you’re a politician.

John Swan

We really do live in a society :(

Patrick Taffe

Trashfuture pod cover that sort of thing inside the UK and have also had Felix on as a guest a couple times

justdave

There are other types of Australians than white?

Harry

Interesting interview, regardless of his politics.

Jake Zydek

yeah this is awesome

Greg

I stole a lot of robo from Walgreens in my hs years. Those were intense years for me.

Mark

Agree, and I was also impressed with how often Rob conceded points. He didn’t just double-down. He’s got some disparities in his world view, I felt, but that’s going to be natural after having been institutionalized like that

Richard

Not everyone can listen to a 2 hour interview they hate for free. That’s impressive.

Red Army Commando

People like Blago or Joe Biden appeal because they’re evil but human as opposed to the typical reptilian freak politician.

Jacob

Need to make it available for people who are not patreon subscribers as a public service to the people of Chicago and all Illinois!

Jeff Martin

I'm a huge gangster which is why I just signed up to be a Grey Wolf and listen to this podcast

Jeff Martin

Nah but seriously I wanna hang out with this dude. Come to north Arizona I'll take you to the best Mexican restaurant in the USA and we can smoke legal weed. See the Grand Canyon and Sedona. And Flagstaff is a mystic gem.

doug

my dude made it almost two hours before becoming almost unmoored from time and drifting backwards 15 years, talking about vouchers and school choice like these are good things that should be explored

Good brain haver

I say again, this ep. was appallingly dumb. Blago, an inveterate smoothtalker, played Felix like a dime-store ukulele, offering nothing of substance beyond complaints about how he was wrong and 'if I'd been there I woulda...' defenses of 90's era Dem policies. For his part, Felix seemed wowed by having a political bigname from his childhood on the show, and failed utterly to interrogate any of the mind-bogglingly dumb statements blago made, from denouncing socialism (?) to saying Afghanistan would have been acceptable If we had only gotten out faster, to defending... Nixon (??). No matter how fucking stupid it was, everything that rolled out of Rod's mouth got sympathetic head nods from Felix. If you absolutely blinded yourself to everything else Chapo says and stands for, you might be able to accept this in a spirit of Rogan-style, "give the subject a mic and get out of the way" interviewing. But it's absolutely absurd when held up against the insanely high standards to which they hold literally any other political or media figure. Felix got fucking owned by a Democratic machine good-old-boy lib.

More Human than Human

this guy is a massive shit bag. Two things are true. His sentence was ridiculous and he should be free. He’s a huge piece of shit who should be mocked and disrespected.

More Human than Human

It’s also great he won’t be in white collar prison anymore. Genuinely. But it’s also hard to listen to this bull shitter and absolute spoiled little bitch go on when someone like my uncle and untold numbers just like him rot in non VIP prison for literally being heroin addicts. Just a fucked world we live in as usual

Doug

I would like to hear zizek's take on this

Ben L

Shut up nerd

Leslie Cox

jesus go jerk off or something.

Hector Jaime

How do you figure? Where are you getting your data? I know from growing up on the border, Mexicans have zero trust in their institutions and government, more so than on the American side of the fence.

take5™

the most jewish an italian christian has ever been. u gotta love him.

take5™

thinking about one of matt's cushvlog rants about obama and trump as presidents with the main goal of being the presidents they would have loved to watch on tv (obama as part of a hbo drama, trump as part of another reality show of his)

take5™

good. we are dumbass fanboys and im glad they dont follow our advice too much

John Whited

Great PODCAST! Why would Patrick Fitzgerald call Rahm Emanuel thirty minutes before the Governor’s arrest? A private citizen.

Chuck

This was a really good interview.

IHaveHemorrhoids

A little confused. You were clearly looking for a multiple hour long debate between Rod and Felix, not an interview. Being a good interviewer and even getting interesting guests on your show in part hinges on you not attacking everything the interviewee says. Had Felix challenged him on everything that he had a disagreement with, this would've gone nowhere. We know where Felix stands on these topics and we know Rod is a bygone snake of the machine. I don't really see what would be interesting about listening to Felix argue opinions we know he has to a guy we know ultimately doesn't give a damn.

Blake Patraw

holy shit get a life or at least put all this nonsense into one comment

Blake Patraw

i had to come back to this one for a couple hours of late night driving i had to do, this was one of my favorite interviews they've ever done, blago is a fascinating character with a crazy life experience and i love that felix went over two hours with him to get to everything he felt was important to get to. my favorite episode of the last year, maybe ever