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We catch up with various theories and possible explanations around this week’s Brooklyn subway shooting, as well as discourse around urban life in general. Then, we explore the mind palace of the distressed contemporary conservative voter through a new focus group hosted by the New York Times. What are their hopes? What are their fears? Is traffic really that much worse than it was in the 90’s? We try to get to the bottom of it.

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Sinkpiss

Combo breaker

Des Mosome

The Chapo. Has beens, losers. Jesus was a loser. Then he became a winner. Chapo still have a chance. Hell or High Water. It’s great. It’s beautiful.

EUGENE HETZEL

They are like Jesus because we pay their way, loving the tune.

Alexandr

1 2 3 4 007 all the good guys go to heaven

Tei

7

Shiv

8

William

Feels like the gulf between people's expectations of what now should be like and what it actually is, has caused this Mandela effect where people remember things in a way where they aren't at fault

William

It also feels like there's a distortion of history similar to the insanity of q anon and Russia gate. Like, the liberals had to invent this grand alternate reality because they can't deal with the reality of being publicly humiliated losing to trump. With these conservatives though, they have to create a grand alternate history where things were better (when they weren't) and things deteriorated in a way where they are conveniently not aligned with, or a member of, the guilty party

Dies Volt

I wish Elon offering to buy Twitter wasn't just another of his scams. The world would be such a better place if he owned it.

Will

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justdave

Hahahahahahahaha

Ellen Harold

I live in Sunset Park and it is Bodega Heaven. Lots and lots of fresh vegetables. We love it here. Here's a chart: https://www.facebook.com/Gothamist/photos/a.10152130847175492/10166496618895492/ I was interviewed by some TV journalists at the 36th st station yesterday they asked how I felt about riding the subway now and I answered, "You have to be on the alert when you ride the subway. We need more mental health care." As far as the cameras, they were working. But the wiring they were wired to was not.

Ellen Harold

We don't need more FBI. We need more social workers. The guy is a nut case.

Gordon Schmidt

Every time Felix makes fun of Noah Baumbach it warms my soul. I still remember the bit about Noah Baumbach purchasing exotic animals, and who could forget Marriage Story: the Ride?

Hunter

Lmao was totally not expecting Will’s impression of Gilbert Gottfried and woke my wife up laughing

T.A. Martin

Men of a certain age from Arkansas claim at least a cordial relationship with the Clintons. Say what you want about Bill, but he was an incredible retail campaigner, and had a phenomenal memory for names and faces. So it would be very easy for someone who lived through Arkansas' Clinton administration to think they were pals with the governor.

Irrelevant Elephant

Remember the Biohazard song "5 Blocks to the Subway "? Brooklyns finest

DS

He was an excellent vessel and vassal. The left could use some of these.

Dick Wolf

dying at the pikmin reference

Major bit me

Also roblox has a $25 billion dollar market cap that’s why I feel alienated from society

Steve D

I feel a lot of the alienation in that focus group (and society) is from the general alienation of getting older; of course New York City felt safer in the Giuliani years because mom and dad were healthy and young, you had friends and school to give your life structure and a nice warm bed. Now that time has passed, your parents are showing their age and the burden of being an adult is a little more than you expected.

Clean Shirt Piggie

Twitter is a database seeking every user’s phone number. If they don’t have your number and you post a joke they’ll ban you until you give up your number. Musk wants that database

Hudson

Sociopaths are often great people persons

Doug Cartel

failing security cameras sounds too convenient, but in all fairness this is also a subway system that is just crumbling apart right under everyone's feet. It's practically a fucking minecart ride from a movie and I'm only judging from all the videos of water spilling onto the tracks.

Kroy

So the whole dang episode is about Jew York City????

etienne

best city in the world baby number one go islanders go giants go yankees go knicks jets nets mets go harlem globetrotters

etienne

completely jokerfied. twisted beyond recognition

justdave

You people created me, you are the ones to be punished. Now I only want chaos!

Josh Walker

What's the music after the first segment?

Antipaganda

Oh no the next number is 14 that's the Nazi number

Stephen Giroux

I’d chance a bet that an MTA security camera in Sunset Park was purchased second-hand and they never even did the thing in the store where you open the little view window and point it at your friend and they wave at you and say something pithy and expository. So I agree, there’s no way they set the thing up right, outside of dropping some wires into the hole in the wall where the bugs live. Almost all streets and roads in BK are crumbling, so are public buildings, public schools and public hospitals. You start to understand, living in NYC and not rich, that you’re just supposed to fucking duck when the ceiling caves in.

Nobody

Never attribute malice that can easily be explained with stupidity, which is the NYPD and FBI in regards to these shootings. Why are all these mass shootings now ops but the regular day to day shootings across this country aren't?

etienne

totally agree with those chuds about drivers and cars. Not just specific drivers either. We need to put the kibosh on this. No more cars for anyone besides a stringently regulated cadre of delivery and bus drivers.

Nathan

dumb heuristic that is misapplied. the malice explanations do explain things the stupidity explanations don't.

Nobody

Ridiculous. If it was an op they would have caught him easily and not have been embarrassed catching the guy. Every shooting is an op except for the shootings that happen every day across the country. There have been shootings in New York for decades but this one *has* to be a false flag/op whatever because why? Why is it hard to believe a piece of shit psycho decided to kill people?

Jonathan G

will gets mvp this episode

etienne

they were huuuuuge behind Kaepernick after the blackballing! this guy missed a huge page of the discourse. very funny

Chantz

Damn, RIP Court Street Regal. I watched Finding Nemo when it came out as a kid there 😥 not to be a crank but the city has changed so much.

Damen Irving

My guess is something from Tree of Life

TangiePower

All serious, capital-L Liberals have been pretty much been driven insane by the “End of History” framework falling completely apart since the 90s. They thought America would control the Earth, and the technocrats would control America (and by extension, Earth). Bush, Trump and Putin really fucked their vision up. Not saying the right has anything to offer - they do not - but they create the illusion of such by fucking with the libs.

B2B Commuter

Seriously, I nearly left my body when they said that nobody even died in that shit. I assumed there was double digit fatalities by the way it’s been all over the TVs at my gym and work. Talk about New York bias

etienne

trying to push a old timey narrative to blame the shooting on: it is because of Grand Theft Auto IV. guy was trying to emulate his hero; Niko Bellic

Nathan

When the shooter opened fire on the subway, was he shooting because he was stupid or because he was malicious? Obviously, because he is malicious. Now, I don't know what happened in this specific case with respect to law enforcement, but neither do you. Chanting "stupidity not malice" doesn't help you.

AKorgar

Well, this is a cornerstone of traditionalism, the idea that things were better in the good old days, which is convenient because we either don't remember how things actually were, or never actually experienced it personally, or just see things through a lens of selective memory.

Woke Batou

Shots fired at DSA: re the left position of letting people stay outside and eat garbage. Single most depressing political argument in left orgs. Fight for the right to sleep outside on piss!

etienne

all of california politics is poison pilled by the property tax freeze enacted in the late 70's. any alleged progressive politics attempted after this is just commentary. Same with the darling of mountain progressive politics, Colorado, which is still chokeholded by the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights edit: NY DSA of course have no such excuse so they're just too chickenshit to advocate for a mass scale public housing policy

Yup

Felix not having it on this one

Woke Batou

Cars are cancelled (for real though)

Dan Anderson

Conservatives definition of freedom: Everybody looks like me and thinks like me and no one disagrees with me. And if you think differently than I do, you're destroying my freedom

Nolan

IT’S MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Matthew Black

‘Back in my day nobody ran reds’ is the most transparently memory-damaged fogeyism I can imagine. But the 39 year old guy showing up with fucking bagels every week that I’m sure the precinct has to throw out with his kid because he wants to turn that fogeyism into higher principle is way more worrisome.

Joseph Mabrey

We truly have all gone Sicko Mode

Bill

Oh cool I've been wanting to know what conservative men are thinking

Chris Ryan

My decoder ring makes this say “All of California is poison.” I have solved the riddle

Nobody

I was referring to why the cops didn't prevent it, dummy

Louis

Music at the end?

Jenkum Terry

Circles from the major motion picture Tree of Life

justdave

Just me dressed as serpico with a tear in my eye, -'So many wasted pastries'- then the camera pans, and you see I have my service pistol in my hand

J.P. McD.

This is exactly the meaning of No Country For Old Men and it’s so irritating when people think the message is “things are more violent now”

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

Also the only Democratic politician that exists is AOC and she's going to personally throw everyone in a gulag.

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

The libs in my life l disagree with a lot on, but are capable to having conversations about other things. (Hobbies are amazing. Talking to either of my parents about politics is/was pulling teeth. Talking about photography or really niche forms of Linux: actually fun). The conservatives go straight to "Capitalism has never been tried" and "anyone who doesn't believe in whatever it is l consider real Capitalism is a dangerous idiot who wants a new Holodomor". And will never have a different conversation with you again after that suite has been broken.

Adam Hulst

Watch The Tree of Life

Adam Hulst

Then watch The New World

Zach Pierce

Me and your wife were surprised at how hard you were laughing… then we listened and it IS a good impression

Zach Pierce

“PACO YOU HAVE TO REPORT THOSE BAGELS OR IM LEAVING YOU FOR THIS GUY IN TEXAS WHO SAYS IM OK FOR A WEAK BROAD!”

justdave

'YU DONT UNDERSTAND, I NEED THESE FUCKING THINGS' *wipes nose free of powdered sugar*

justdave

The fact that wills imaginary hyena matriarch has only a six inch clitoris is very telling

Jc

i call dibs on being the bay area not all men i love infinite jest guy

etienne

i really enjoy that all those guy's complains is that they have to make somewhat of an effort not to piss off everyone at their job. like yeah i get it that it's hard to spend a full 7 hour at the excel factory and not say the n word out loud, even once, but usually i can pull it off just fine

Steve D

That 32 person WhatsApp chat has to be an absolute sewer.

W

I do love how the conservative lads have so deeply internalized the “wokeness” that they claim to hate that they’ll never not be mad

W

Also does anyone have any articles or books on what Matt was talking about at the end, of the civil rights era coinciding with a stronger limitation of social mobility?

David Cox

The book "Lockdown America: Police and Prisons in the Age of Crisis" by Christian Parenti is pretty good on this subject.

philihp

Tree of Life was cringe, couldnt watch the whole thing.

Max Headroom

Affirmative Action, etc. which were efforts meant to "level the playing field" for minority groups initially started in the late 60s/early 70s and got heavily underway in the late 70s/early 80s which coincided with the beggining of major offshoring, cuts to public school education, gutting of the social safety net, etc....you can't have diversity hires at a plant if the plant no longer exists. In terms of books, etc. I would check out some of Cornell West's works

Heavenly Father69

love you guys but stfu about crime rates being static. you spoiled hipster fuckers live in Manhattan and Brooklyn, like playground of the rich. You guys are totaly unqualified toneven anecdotally comment on crime other than like Anna Delvy. While you pigs have been living it up during COVID everything has gone to shit. Fentanyl, shitty pointless jobs, and a really peculiar wave of super liberal pussified DA's have left many cities in this country, especially on the West Coast, ironically living in escape from new york mode. The dems have unknowingly created the riggts paranoid fantastical hellscape thus justifying their facists wet dreams. You guys can talk out of your asses but be mindful we dont all live in a converted Crown Heights work space or some such shit

Hector Jaime

Great episode! People walking past me must have thought I’m insane; I was laughing the whole time. I will comment on this, because I don’t think the chapo boys really have any experience spending holidays with conservative family members. Yes, before the internet you weren’t supposed to bring up politics in mixed company. But, people will say things that they don’t think of as “political”. And so a convo pre or post social media would always go something like “man, if only we’d stop letting in those illegals.” “Well, there’s an issue with immigration policy and NAFT—“ “WE DON’T TALK ABOUT POLITICS!”

Hector Jaime

But long hair and bell bottoms have been replaced with short hair and skinny jeans as a sign of femininity. Still the same shallow complaints 50 years later.

Hector Jaime

Forgot to mention velvet shoes. That was really bizarre. “I want to wear skinny pants, a pink shirt and velvet shoes like Jerry Lee Lewis did, but now that is considered gay.”

Nobody

No crime isn't drastically up. Stop with the cop propaganda you boot licker

Logan

Yo who is Terrence Malick and what does he or The Tree of Life have to do with this episode? (I'm dumb as shit sorry bout that 😑)

ahmed

Someone needs a suppository

etienne

far as I can tell it's Felix and his obsession with movies by/for old people that are uncomplicated and comforting and moralistic

Mitch H.

More minions memes than you thought theoretically possible.

b3nnyD

Please get a hobby

Jameson .

Pull your head out your ass, look at the statistics, and realize that this is the same bullshit every time the liberals are in control.

etienne

you have a theory? The wikipedia says "The film chronicles the origins and meaning of life by way of a middle-aged man's childhood memories of his family living in 1950s Texas, interspersed with imagery of the origins of the known universe and the inception of life on Earth." which does sound like it supports my thesis that the movie reference is about boomers who wish they'd live back when things were *simple*, right?

Cooper Rodgers

perhaps you should watch the movie lol. Or even read the entire wikipedia summary

etienne

dont have time for any of that

Kevin C

Hes a avant garde film director that makes kinda pretentious movies film critics love or despise