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Matt discusses the history of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, a rebel state that existed in China from 1851-1864. The rebellion was organized around the landless Hakka people by Hong Xiuquan who, after failing his bureaucratic entrance exams, had a nervous breakdown that led him to believe he was the brother of Jesus Christ. Matt tracks the rise and fall of the kingdom, and how it fits in other proto-socialist movements, and the resonances with the Mormon history he laid out on the last two episodes of the Inebriated Past.

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Athyrium

Let’s fucking goooo

Daniel

Lets get tipsy on history 🍻 thank u professor cush

Zachary Serrins

When’s the Masterclass drop Professor Cushmano?

MoriBones

slop is early today hell yeah

Bobby Volcano

This needs to happen just for the thumbnail

Osborne MOCs

Wake up babe, Matt's drinking again

Brian Taulbee

One of the most, if not the most, brutal civil wars in history.

Joe

the best

G

lets goooo

Ben

Yeeeeeeessssss

vermouth

jesus' lil bro, Matt

Mitch H.

Props to either Matt for getting through Hong Xiuquan every time, or Chris for editing him fucking up out.

Alan Fulcher

They done did it again, folks

Rory Schreiber

This is great because I’m currently reading Flashman and the Dragon

Misha the Homeless

Love this series. It fulfills a very distinct need, and if it weren't for this I'd be hanging out at bus stops near college campuses, giving booze and coke to the smartest-looking vagrants.

zzzzzz

Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom by Stephen R. Platt is a good book on this

Shawn Milleville

Great episode timing. A good pairing after finishing Blowback S3.

Mike Bess

Another good lecture from Professor Matt!! Lol.

The Fine Art Revolution

It's remarkable how many similarities there are in this history and our current moment. Great work Matt!

Adam Hoefler

He's not inebriated at all! I demand a refund..

Mehow

at first was disappointed that we weren’t gonna get an Alex Jones react episode, but this is great so far.

M.R. Alchemist

Ultimate alt history: Benjamin Butler becomes president and backs the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom kicking off global land reform in the late 19th century.

Michael Landreth

Listening to inebriated past when you yourself are inebriated cancels out the adjacent inebriations so it becomes the sober past.

Michael S. Judge

Oh wow, I didn't realize that was the same General Gordon. I guess there's a reason they don't call him "Sudanese Gordon"

Gabipentin

My sister is adopted from China and her DNA test told us she's Hakka. Thank you for teaching me more about her cultural history!

Gabipentin

Also, my mom is Nicaraguan and I'm just learning about Vanderbilt's colonial project there. Can't wait to ruin Anderson Cooper a second time for her

K H

I always find it remarkable how quickly it seems like the Chinese can go from fine enough to exploding. Meanwhile the French are just always exploding. Just different ways of doing things I guess. I am getting a little teeny tiny bit legitimately concerned about the provercating with China. I know our economies are supposed to be too tied up for anything crazy to happen, but I feel like 2022 is running out of ways to top the previous runs.

K H

Thought he was his uncle

Des Mosome

His cousin took him to a blacksmith, you say? Where there’s a cousin, there’s an uncle.

Ozzie

Hong flunked a test so hard he became God’s own fail-son

Michael Landreth

So Wu from Deadwood is an erstwhile manifestation of the Hakka?

Ian Priest

Chinese wars in the modern period be like: Casualties: 10 million (with a further estimated 20 million dead from famine) Outcome: Inconclusive

plainwrap

Man, guys who failed to get media writing jobs, then got all political and convinced their followers to blame PMC bugmen while promoting poisonous diets used to be a whole lot cooler back in the day.

VanLeft

yoOo that ending song slaps.

Kinetics Video

Really love that galloping bit about the long dynastic history of China, really felt some good inside a crazy person's brain vibes. Kinda think 'entropy' is one of those words you need to force yourself to find more descriptive synonyms for, it's one of those ideas that sounds like it explains a lot but really doesn't.

Fingerless

no 1 fevrous Christian revelation, narrowly beating out the shit that made Public Universal Friend non-binary

Salgarious

What was that song at the end??

th

love this in depth look at an oft overlooked extremely deadly conflict (as most of chinese history is oft overlooked and extremely deadly, i.e. the collapse of the northern song, the an lushan rebellion, etc). did want to note that "xiquan" should be pronounced more as "she-chuan" with the softest "ch" sound you can make, the traditional english "qu" sound occurs more with "k"s in chinese but really doesn't happen very much at all

James Cook

Yesss. Inebriated past is what finally made me pay up for the premium episodes. Thank you Matt 🥂

epb

I would pay so much money for an inebriated past weekly podcast

Phubarrh

Thanks for illuminating decades of wuxia films whose factions had always been fairly opaque to me.

William

REALLY hit the "WHOA" moment when Matt said, "Don't know if this is familiar to anyone" after describing the entrenched bureaucratic power and the levels of test-taking that protected it from any sort of radical infiltration. The whole idea of schools being training for polite society and the pipeline for choosing the 'correct' people to head the bureaucracy makes so much sense and the overlay of the Chinese imperial tradition over the american imperial fledgling state brings so much into focus

Dan

Perhaps? The cast of Deadwood refer to Chinese as "Cellestials", which is a reference to the Taiping heavenly Kingdom. What drove me nuts watching Deadwood was that Wu's hair style wasn't correct; his braid doesn't correspond to Manchu China or the Heavenly Kingdom, I think.

C. Ries

A giant useless sword that says “Demon Killing Sword” on it? So he was a mall ninja

Demented Avenger

Imperial China sounds like a society based on the idea that those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.

brodie

I really love history class with Matt. It's very cool. Also any plans to do more hinge points episodes in the future? I re-listened to them recently and they're awesome.

David Andrews

This episode was gold. I've lived in Hong Kong for 25 years and not heard a better analysis of this war which is mostly overlooked.

George P

Chinese pronunciation tip for all comrades in the coming Chinese century: Q = Ch and X = Sh. Thanks to Comrade Xi awareness of X pronunciation has already spread at least.

Doug Cartel

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS

Nelson Auguste

I want a separate podcast dedicated exclusively to these

etienne

have you considered: Radio War Nerd

Evan

Banger episode

Animals in Motion

Watch out, genius at work here in the comment section

J.P. McD.

Due to death of streaming we need Hell of Presidents and Inebriated Past CD box sets

Son of El Topo

Nice! I've been listening to the People's History of Ideas podcast recently which touches a bit on this movement but interested to hear Matt's take on it.

Mark Schneider

I like that Matt uses the fancy-pants word "tutelage" instead of just saying tutoring. Since I taught high school for over 3 decades I avoided big, fancy words like that. I remember once I used the word "penal" in a class-- a boy thought I was sharing dirty talk, & I had to write "penalty" and other related words on the board to prove I wasn't introducing dirty words to clean little minds.

Mitch Davis

Matt Christman Teaches Taiping

Mr. Lobotomy

Very interesting episode, more please

will michel

don’t blame me, i voted for zeng guofan

Vince Magsino

Dat song at the end goes SO HARD

Dick Van Sexel

Well done matt; you and chris should really consider making supplemental education stuff for high schoolers. Hell of presidents seems like a perfect example but this is great too.

Yup

tutelage and tutoring have different implications

Christian Martinez

Inject that history into my veins baby! This period in Chinese history is absolutely fascinating.

FusEldar

is that a C&C generals reference?

Jake Zydek

Let's Fighting Love!

Walter rememberer

Fantastic content but Matt’s levels/gain are high, sounds a bit like he’s talking through a guitar pickup

Jacob

Matt's been reading Scheidel?

Mark Schneider

Ok, I guess I didn't consider that subtlety!

Jack Ross

This episode kicked ass

Brody Knaak

Awww yes, this the good shit

Josh Woods

"what are you doing step-nomad?"

Adam wallace

Matt should follow up with the Baha’i and Baha’u’llah’s story, same timeframe, very similar contexts in the Middle East.

Arielle Curtin

Hong She-yo Chew-en is closer to correct pronunciation. Correctly pronouncing pinyin is a quickly learned part trick.