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Today we’re joined by journalist Ben Terris, who’s been sort of shadow-programming the show recently with his pieces on Sean McElwee, Diane Feinstein’s staff, Tommy Tuberville’s advisors and questions about Tim Scott’s virginity.  We discuss Trump’s federal indictment over the “boxes hoax,” and the growing feeling that ol’ Donny might possibly maybe finally be kind of fucked. Then we talk to Ben about his new book “The Big Break,” and learn more about all the McElwee-esque DC creeps, weirdos and gamblers he’s come to know investigating the world of post-Trump Washington.

You can find Ben’s book here: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ben-terris/the-big-break/9781538708057/?lens=twelve

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Frank

wow best one in years im cumming

etienne

ben tetris

Adam

first! edit: go to hell

J P 3

Trump 2024 is more Lyndon LaRouche 1992 than Eugene Debs 1920.

etienne

that would be a correct metaphor if everything were different but good try

Paul F. Holzfäller

Look how mad you are at a guy who finger blasts Snack Packs.

drawkward

Trump's lawyer is experimenting with gonzo lawyering

Cole

that anecdote about the airplane trip with DeSantis is fucking crazy lmao

Jessica Rios

My favorite part of the bathroom is the cheap dollar store garbage can. So incongruous

David Browm

My god...the Crank Creepers have arrived...

George Lochinski

Oh shit are they talking abt the Liturgy person's family??

boogaboogabooga

The singer of Liturgy is a descendant of HL Hunt. Jesus.

Lono's Oboe

I was at a hotel in the west of Ireland for work over the weekend and some American guy sitting at the bar (shorts, flip flop sandals, bald red head, Oakley's) saw the Trump indictment on the bar TV and started yelling "holy shit, we got him! We finally fucking got him. Hey everybody! We got him! This being Ireland, everyone was calling him a cunt under their breath in a way that he could hear so he got irate, complaining that he was stuck in the "fucking Banshees of Inisherin, when back home HISTORY was occuring." The barman told him to relax. A while later he started chatting up a fellow tourist was sitting next to him the entire time and seemed to have struck out before drinking himself into sullen stupor. Then she came back and they left together so the Trump thing worked out for someone.

Shiv

chilling to the bone

Shiv

good craic what a rollercoaster (again, sorry about us)

THEKILLERWHALE

"I have to go potty" What the fuck. My jaw is on the floor. This is the craziest shit I have ever heard. Who the fuck are these people and why are they representing normal people in literally any capacity?

Dyyyyylan

All contemporary American artists were born loaded

Lono's Oboe

I had 2 other experiences on that trip with Irish people that were both worse. This was just funny. It was like a live Felix bit. If he was Irish we probably wouldn't have noticed

Last Years Man

I would have asked him who the fuck " we" is

Lono's Oboe

First thing I thought of. It's like sports

Last Years Man

Didn't Bibi do the "keep running for president to stay out of Jail" thing too? It's not unprecedented.

Last Years Man

That's exactly how I felt. While people may not consider Ben's book "serious" journalism, the little anecdotes I heard here are far more illustrative of what these people are really like than a straight profile or interview

gonzopitcher

The Lincoln Project’s favorite soy boy.

Trout Mask Original

Well ackshully, Little Boxes was Malvina Reynolds' song. Pete just covered it. Nyeea.

JV

i mean we literally did get a review of trump's sexual stylings from stormy

Tim Mullen

I don’t see anything wrong with what trump did. He just wanted to provide the best toilet reading material for his guests. Shows how classy he is. Low toilet is considerate for digestion health also

Steve D

Based on my experience reading Reacher I know that fooling around with war plans is a capital offense.

etienne

I saw her live last weekend and she ripped my face off. at least she's putting the trust fund into something interesting

b-rar

Bawitdaba is a small Iranian village near the Homs nuclear facility where Delta Force personnel will launch their sabotage mission

Jed Levin

“King Ralph!”

Jake Scalia

I’m sold I’m getting this book

Jacob

They brush over it but HL Hunt's son Lamar didn't just create the KC Chiefs, he was the driving force behind the creation of the AFL and the Superbowl.

Quinn

chapo schlapp house 😜🤣😅🤓 is this anything

K H

I wanna be somebody semi important. I want one a them dishwashers that can evaporate a steak.

Ivy

SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP SURELY THIS WILL BE THE END OF TRUMP

carl

I have...to go potty... lmfao

Nolan

My son got tha Denver Nuggets jeans

Kamran Husain

slaps ten thousand sq foot house you won’t believe how many of your secret family’s you can fit in this bitch

Meatwad Cosby

Tim Scott definitely called his dad for advice in the bathroom. We’re all the same person.

Flesh Colored Subaru

DC DOES suck ass, there is nothing to do if you arent a stroller family who loves to go to neighborhood Art Fairs and drink beer from clear plastic cups. The one 7 year period of interesting music and culture from like 40 years ago keeps getting hammered over and over and over.

Jack

ben tennis

etienne

it just kills me that on the wikipedia page for "Extremely online" there's a photo of the live show where everyone had track suits with the caption "Fans of the podcast Chapo Trap House have been described as extremely online" they sure are

Beehive Fucker

I wish I had a job where I could say "can the senator's penis please be off the record." dudes rock.

Kevin

Is Chapo going to talk about WW3, or is it going to be hot gossip until the nukes start falling. Also double digit excess mortality rates for people between 18-40 across multiple years and not a word from the bards above. Talk to your handlers, boys: you need show a little cognizance or else the op becomes obvious by virtue of the silence.

will michel

sir, this is a gay wendy’s

Kevin

Do you offer military discounts?

Stephen

Sean McElwee: No one gets bitches wetter than Ted Kennedy...

KatrinaJadeHelm

I kept waiting for one of them to bring up Liturgy

Frogstronaut

“Biden has boxes in Chinatown” I think Trump believes all ethnic Asian neighborhoods are colonies governed by their namesakes country.

Thom

"I'd like to announce I just had sex in the potty, to put the rumors to rest"

3SOC

maybe you should take your secret knowledge about WW3 to the newspapers instead of Patreon comments

Kevin

Look outside your window, friend...it's the world. There is no secret knowledge.

Kevin

What do you think betting odds will be for him winning from prison and pardoning himself? I'm a betting man.

Sage

DC has music venues and bars and restaurants. So does fuckin Dayton, that doesn't make it a cool city

Ian

I have to go potty

Jim Veil

I heard "Leah Hunt-Hendrix" and immediately thought of Haela Hunt-Hendrix, the leader of incredibly artsty (and controversial in metal circles) black metal band Liturgy. Turns out they're sisters!

Dan

The episode picture is from Mar-a- Lago?! My brother has a home reno company, and he makes bathrooms like that for new houses in the burbs ( minus the chandelier). This is the thing that I keep noticing about the wealthy: even the wealthiest people in the country just live in McMansions now. Billionaires, and near-Billionaires, don't live in palatial villas anymore, they just live in cubic particle board structures of different sizes. Why would anyone even pursue wealth, if your reward is just a drywall box with more compartments and higher property tax?

god listens

Seeing Liturgy tomorrow I will approach her about this

etienne

dude liturgy is not "controversial". murdering your guitarist and doing arson is "controversial". liturgy is just like. some people dont like their music. anyways have fun, I really enjoyed them the last 2 times I went

etienne

black metallers are like oh wow this band has one polymeter and 2 minutes of clean signing and pitchfork talk about them, I need to reorient my entire personality around hating this band. see also deafheaven

BTULTRA

surprised y’all didn’t mention Ravenna Hunt Hendrix, the brain behind the band Liturgy, is also HL Hunt’s granddaughter. she rules tho, amazing artist

John Mitchell

Rule 29 bitches!!! The judge can overrule the fraud & crime exemption to the attorney/client privilege revocation and then just winnow down what other evidence is allowed to be shown to the Jury and then declare that the prosecution did not make a strong enough case, throw out the charges and there is NO REVIEW of RULE 29!!!! sooo perfect!!!

Ryan

"I once had a Ronald McDonald, but he's gone now" was DeLillo-esque.

Jim Veil

I use "controversial" to convey the amount of people getting in very heated debates about Liturgy, not to dismiss their work or even give my opinion on it (I'm lukewarm on it, though some is pretty good). Liturgy was second only to Deafheaven in the online metal debate over what constitutes "hipster" black metal.

etienne

that was such a tedious era jesus christ. I'm so happy now everyone's on the same page that extreme metal crossover acts are at least valid

Sheila Mydick

Freudian slip when Felix says “had sex for” ??

etienne

it's wild that she gave herself like 3 new names and still insists on that awkward double barrel last name when one is that of the Koch Industries of its era and the other one is friggin Hendrix but yeah good songs

AbeLinkin

Monuments are neat and some of the architecture is nice I guess. Plus rock creek park and some areas on the river are really nice to walk around in. Rock creek park alone is probably the size of Dayton.

PraiseTheSun

Their job is to just consume the ill gotten wealth they have hoarded. They don't have to or want to think about things like, why am I living in a trash suburb in a Mchouse that will fall apart in 40 years.

izi

The man just wanted to go potty... and you all mocked him

Mike Sally

The lil tidbit about desantis being a puddy had me cackling

stinkface

Liturgy stinks. Always stank. Even worse live.

FeloniousUnc

I will never ever tire of hearing the name MATT SCHLAPP

yungneilyoung

Matt Schlapp dead ass Connor Roy with those food Q's

Daffy

Why? Because they are bigots. They are rich exactly because they took it. They took it not thinking they deserve more, but someone else deserves less. The largest signifier if a person is rich is not their chic. It is their attitude. Bigotry is more lucrative in capitalism. As a matter of course they have no class. As a matter of course they have no taste. If they knew restraint, they would not have as much money. I got family in the parks and I got family in the burbs. It is bigotry that separates most of their world views, not money. Even with all the influence it is still ash in their mouths. Money is entirely wasted on the rich.

etienne

did they just quit playing veins of god btw? really miss that tune

etienne

funnily enough there's another Liturgy that plays Brutal Death and their only album Dawn of Ash is utterly crushing

Kinetics Video

This is hog talk ofc, but I think the neophyte Trump-appointed judge is a pretty clear tip off this is another round of Donny did very bad things but gosh darn it not actionable legally. Anyway, B+ slop

Poppy Chulo

Toilets are supposed to be lower to the ground. It reduces strain and hemorrhoids.

Axel H.

I love this guy’s method of pluralizing hyphenated surnames.

NoPrefect

Bro, I'll eat your broccolini, chill.

NoPrefect

These dudes are too veggie averse

Aiden

I’m a creep about cranking

Aiden

Yen Venmo

Aiden

Schlatt Mapp

Dustin Nelson

That Crack about Peter and Paul finally got me off my ass to see Funny Games (2007)

Elliot Matheny

Maybe the real world war 3 is the mental illness you gained along the way

Elliot Matheny

In fact, DeSantis full throatedly denied the pudding cup allegation. It’s sugar, man!

Elliot Matheny

It’s fine. Decent art scene, decent food. Most DC people are very demonstrative about their politics, but that’s true of all coastal metropolises.

Elliot Matheny

DC definitely isn’t a cool city (too inherently nerdy), but it’s not a bad one, by American standards. Certainly has more cultural output than Dayton

Kevin

Then we're all fighting WW3, it seems; but I'm pretty sure the nazi paramiltaries being funded and supported by the Anglo-Establishment in Ukraine are not part of my Caretaker descent. Hey, either way, I will see you in the trenches some day.

bruce

Little boxes in the bathroom/little boxes full of documents

C. Andrew

I hope the Chinook crashes like the last time DForce was there.

C. Andrew

Because it's more fun to riff about things you understand and can wrap your brain around. Those clowns in Congress? Characters we know and love. Atomic hellfire at an unknown time, maybe, killing everything and everyone you love, maybe? Booooooiring and lame. If you're gonna get nuked it's gonna happen and there's nothing you can do to stop it, so just hang out and relax for a bit.

C. Andrew

Every city in America is shit, you gotta make the best of it. If you hop from place to place and they all suck, says more about you than the places.

etienne

getting my hoes wet kennedy style: drunk driving incident into a river

J.P. McD.

Haven’t visited the city since I was like 9, but this feels correct based on your confidence and the “stroller families” evocation

J.P. McD.

Yea, Tony Montana says this. “Is this it?”

J.P. McD.

Could you go more into how “she came back”? Was it possibly planned, did he have her number and text-badgered her into coming back?

Lono's Oboe

I wish I could. There was speculation amongst my colleagues. They think they were in a relationship already but I heard him asking her where she was from and how long she was staying in Paddyland. When she left, it seemed like she was leaving for good and to your point he was furiously texting on his phone. When she came back they were thick as thieves and I have never seen someone so happy to pay their bar tab. Could have totally misread it. I was also drinking and not paying full attention. I think it's sad to go to another country and just hook up with someone from back home. Like going to Italy and eating out at Macdonald's.

Elliot Matheny

The grammar of “I’m a crank about creeping” is fascinating. I wonder if he means he’s a crank, out and about, creeping around; or if it means he’s a crank, one with an unshakable belief about the goodness of creeping, who boldly denounces anyone who would criticize the practice.

Jim Storrie

it's so disorienting to hear felix keep saying vivec without subsequent morrowind lore

Myrmec

He has my name

Dan

It’s true, Teddy left those hoes straight waterlogged.