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o

The episode that gives you the answer to the Cross over no one knew they wanted until this episode and in my mind got that abomination that Ben Affleck did green-lit. Who wins if Batman takes on Daredevil?

Daniel R

Batman with time to plan beats everybody.

o

Wow. 7 people in agreement on an episode? I love when this Universe gets a hit.

Rachael

Great reaction. I liked how excited you were at the prospect of certain things. I love this episode, even though it’s a bit rough around the edges. We get a one-way phone crossover with Willow, a heist, a peek inside to W&H with Hitchcockian Dutch angles aplenty, Holland Manners expertly seducing Lindsey, Faith’s stunt double playing the assassin, Angel's sexy tai chi paying off in a cool lo-fi practical effect fight which had them wearing fluorescent paint, a prophecy about Angel, and existential crises for both Angel and Lindsey. I don’t feel sorry for Lindsey. He has a sad backstory, but he uses it to justify his choices and his need for power (which is what Holland appeals to). Angel is fresh off dealing with Faith, and with Gunn, whose crew were poor, homeless teens choosing to risk their lives to fight evil. I can see why Angel sees through Lindsey's embittered "poor me" speech. We were introduced to Lindsey proudly engaging in human trafficking, specifically of one Cordelia Chase, and he's tried to kill several of our beloved characters since. So Lindsey has a line he won't cross—killing children—but he's fine with everything else? We see Lindsey's integrity at the end of the episode, and although I know baggy suits were still a thing in the late 90s, I have to believe that Lindsey’s oversized suits are a costuming choice. He looks like a child wearing his daddy’s suit at the end, so small in his new chair while looking at his view which is juxtaposed with Angel looking hopeful, in his typical rooftop pose looking over his city.

Calvin Allen

Angel misses the purity of evil

Rachael

That speech strongly echoed what he said to Buffy in "Angel," when he was explaining his soul to her. Here, it was way more unnerving.

FernWithy

I'm left wondering if, had Angel responded differently, this would have been a first step for Lindsay instead of a dead end. (Arguably, Faith has as much red in her ledger, but she's able to make an effort.) I didn't see Lindsay's speech so much as "poor me" as "this is how it started and where my head was." Angel does seem to, for the most part, have sympathy for people who were in bad circumstances when they made horrendous choices. Of course, it came on the heels of the court verdict, in the middle of one of his bitterest moments... I don't blame Angel for maybe not being on the saint train with it, either. I just wonder if it could have been a different path.

Daniel R

Seeing all this early Wolfram and Heart stuff gives me goosebumps :)

Fizzy

Lindsay is a really interesting character. He’s definitely has more depth than a lot of the other lawyers at Wolfram and Hart. We got to see a human fleshes out side of him in this episode. It doesn’t phase me at all that he took the promotion. He had a moment of humanity, but all human beings are inherently selfish, and he chose money over honor. It actually makes his character even more interesting.