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This is part one of two-part episode. We discuss a recent Donald Glover interview, the ways in which "good white people" are adept at throwing racist shade in a very gaslighting, subtle way and how Blavity Blacks love and fetishize the token black person experience.

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Gwendolyn Johnson

You guys forgot to mention New York undercover. A show with a mostly POC cast and placed in a urban setting. It had good ratings. The show was a victim of timing, because fox was trying to become less black.

Renetrice Pierre

: I remember Kim Coles was a speaker at Essence Fest the year LS and NYUC was slated to be cancelled. She warned us to write in to save it, or it would be yanked. Not too long after, they killed Torres off (via explosion!), replaced him with the white guy, and the show bled to death from there.