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On this week's bonus episode, Nate speaks with Joe Kassabian ( @jkass99 ) about the Rust Belt, opiate addiction, weird post-industrial fascism, how basically we all know white nationalists and racists from our hometowns, and why the two of them both had to flee. If you're not following Joe on Twitter, you're missing out.

Joe's novel THE HOOLIGANS OF KANDAHAR is a must-read for all of you with literary inclinations. You can find an indie bookseller to purchase it here: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781631610493

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