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This week, Francis speaks with defense reporter Kelsey Atherton (@AthertonKD) about the usage of nuclear weapons, the reasons for mushroom clouds, the weird fixation on drones as a solution to everything, and much more.

Drones flying by nuclear facilities -  https://www.forbes.com/sites/kelseyatherton/2020/07/31/what-happens-when-a-drone-comes-for-a-nuclear-reactor/#2503d11f285d

EMPs -  https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/21/electromagnetic-pulses-emp-weapons-nuclear-explosion/ 

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