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The bar had been set sky-high, so Jake’s expectations were at the peak when he moved on to the final profession on offer. Before he’d begun this evolution, he had predicted that he would most likely end up still being a Heretic-Chosen Alchemist of the Malefic Viper, the name even staying the same. No different from C-grade in that regard, with him also having expected the quality to jump up yet again.

Given these expectations and not yet having seen the direct upgrade to his current profession, after viewing four options, he was sure the last one would be it. With it being ranked higher than Harbinger of Primeval Origins, he even expected it would be the one he ended up taking… before reading Harbinger anyway, because, damn, was it good.

Good enough for Jake not to want a straight upgrade to Heretic-Chosen of the Malefic Viper anymore.

However, when Jake finally went and saw the last option, he had to pause, genuinely confused for a moment.

No direct upgrade?

Jake was under the impression that one would always get a direct upgrade to one’s current profession at least somewhere during an evolution, but as he looked at the fifth and final option… that didn’t seem to be the case.

Because rather than a direct upgrade, Jake got a legitimate contender for Harbinger of Primeval Origins

Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins – You continue down your Path, embracing its paradoxical nature. You remain a Heretic-Chosen, working with your Patron to mutually benefit one another, yet you also start to explore powers from within yourself, independent of the Malefic Viper’s Legacy. Origins of Primeval nature are yours to explore, and not even the Legacy of your Patron is off limits. An alchemist you remain, not only fully dedicated to grasping all that the Malefic Viper’s Legacy can grant you, but going beyond even that. Find deeper secrets, uncover unknown mysteries, and truly comprehend the underlying concepts behind the Malefic Viper’s powers – perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is yet aware of. Grants skills related to the alchemical profession, primarily focused on poisons while exploring the Malefic Viper’s Legacy, as well as skills related to your innate powers as a Harbinger of Primeval Origins. Embrace the paradox, explore Primeval Origins through alchemy, and begin to truly claim powers found through the Legacy of the Malefic Viper as your own. Stat bonuses per level: +175 Wisdom, +150 Willpower, +100 Perception, +100 Vitality, +60 Toughness, +125 Free Points (710 total).

Reading it, Jake needed to take a moment as he first checked the stats it provided to get an idea of its tier. After doing some quick math, he saw that it gave just as many stats per level, 710, as Harbinger of Primeval Origins, making him consider that maybe this profession wasn’t superior. Instead, they were effectively tied.

Comparing Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins to Harbinger of Primeval Origins also seemed pertinent in many other areas. Just their names alone were very similar, both sharing the words Primeval and Origins. Besides that, both were naturally about Jake’s Primeval Origin Energy and what it could do, with both even using alchemy to display this energy, though one definitely did so more. The one with alchemist in its name.

Shaking his head, Jake refocused on the profession description from the beginning as he studied it closely, line by line. It immediately made clear that, despite Heretic-Chosen no longer being in the name of the profession, Jake very much still was one. It also pointed out that Jake had started to substantially branch away from only doing alchemy related to the Legacy of the Malefic Viper, even if Jake didn’t feel like he had.

Most of the time that Jake crafted poisons, he used the Malefic Viper Legacy skills liberally. Shit, he nearly used all of them every time he crafted, recently even mixing in Invocation to make what he made even better. His ritual skill was also related to the Malefic Viper, and every single skill he’d selected during C-grade, besides Arcane Curse Manifestation, a skill he didn’t really end up using much, had “of the Malefic Viper” in their names…

Yet the system had determined that his actions as a Harbinger of Primeval Origins rivaled what he’d done as an alchemist. If that didn’t speak to the Records involved in Jake’s use of Primeval Origin Energy, he didn’t know what did, but he did know that the majority came from three events. First was the birth and creation of Vesperia, then the Demon Prince turning into a Cerulean Demon Lord, and finally, Jasper, the little Warpsnatcher Jake had helped from the Pantheon of Life, who was now out adventuring with the Seeker.

There were more minor uses of Primeval Origin Energy than this, but these three were definitely the main factors.

Continuing down the description, it even started talking about Jake using his abilities to explore the Origin of the Malefic Viper’s Legacy, something Jake hadn’t even considered doing… unless…

Jake frowned as a thought struck him. A theory of sorts that got stuck in his mind the moment it appeared.

What if Jake had used Primeval Origin Energy more times than he thought he had? What if he had a skill that used this energy, all the way back in D-grade, just without realizing it? The more he thought about it, the more it seemed to fit, as he thought of what had to be considered the signature skill of Jake’s Path as a Heretic-Chosen… quite obviously so, given the name.

[Path of the Heretic-Chosen (Unique)]

This was a skill that had allowed Jake to upgrade his Malefic Viper Legacy skills so many times, and even given him the chance to meet the First Sage, which, when he really thought about it, didn’t make any fucking sense in the first place.

It was a unique skill, with the system even talking about how it allowed him to experience the actual past. Not just a memory of it, or someone’s reconstructed version, but the Records themselves that made up such a moment in time.

Primeval Origin Energy wasn’t necessarily related to the concept of time, but it was associated with the concept of history. The Origin was the beginning of history, and while Path of the Heretic-Chosen didn’t take Jake all the way back to the Origin of something, it did take him back some of the way towards an Origin. Additionally, everything Jake saw that pertained to the Malefic Viper was essentially Jake witnessing a part of a Legacy Skill’s Origin, as the Primordial was naturally the Origin of all his Legacy skills.

So... what if Path of the Heretic-Chosen had used Jake’s Primeval Origin Energy all along to power its usage? What if it had passively reserved some of his energy to use as “charges,” all directed by the system? If that were the case, it would help to explain why Jake even had a skill like this in the first place.

Given the multiverse's extremely long history, others should have had similar experiences before, right? Jake had thought about this before, but he had seen himself satisfied that it all came from his unique status as a Heretic-Chosen. Which again didn’t make much sense.

Something that also didn’t make sense the more he thought about it was the entire concept of it using charges in the first place. Jake did know there were other such skills, but usually, one had to do something special to get charges back. Methods such as infusing energy into the skill until one reached a certain threshold, or maybe consuming specific items to power up the skill and gain a charge. Things like that.

Meanwhile, all Jake had to do was gain levels. Levels were an expression of Jake gaining experience and Records, and, as Jake also now knew, this process produced Primeval Origin Energy. So, considering that, wouldn’t it make sense that the energy to create the charges for Path of the Heretic-Chosen could have come from Primeval Origin Energy?

In some ways, it felt like a reach, but the system could clearly replicate and even use every aspect of his Bloodline in certain situations, Sim-Jake being simulated living proof of that.

If Jake was correct that Path of the Heretic-Chosen relied on Primeval Origin Energy, a lot of things made sense, including why he was offered this profession and certain parts of the profession description. He had already started exploring the secrets of the Malefic Viper’s Origin, including the person Jake believed to be the most important subject of the Primordial’s rise to power: the First Sage.

That man was a living mystery above anything else, and Jake believed he would learn more about the man if he continued to delve further into the Viper’s Path. Of course, assuming Jake was right about Path of the Heretic-Chosen using Primeval Origin Energy, there was a chance that even if he went with Harbinger of Primeval Origins, he could still use the skill and would continue to generate charges. Nothing said he couldn’t.

Jake took a step back and returned to reading the Harbinger of Primeval Origins description again. Needless to say, he had already written off the first three options by now and was solely focused on either Primeval Alchemist or Harbinger. Re-reading Harbinger, Jake again wanted to pick it, as it seemed great... but checking back with Primeval Alchemist? Also bloody awesome.

Ultimately, Jake had to admit that overall, the two professions were extremely equal, shared many common traits, but from the looks of it, had a couple of critical differences.

Harbinger of Primeval Origins put the focus solely on exploring his Primeval Origin Energy. It was kind of in the name. Alchemy was just a tool, and further improvements of the Malefic Viper’s Legacy weren’t seen as anything important. Neither was his status as the Heretic-Chosen. It was all just there to support his role as the Harbinger.

In return for it being this focused on Primeval Origin Energy, Jake didn’t doubt it would make him far better at using his unique energy. He would likely be able to help create or evolve way more creatures, would generate the energy faster, and would more likely than not find new ways to use it that he hadn’t even thought about before. There was definitely going to be a lot of ritual magic in there.

Gaining experience would likely come primarily from using his Primeval Origin Energy in inventive or effective ways, providing way more levels than his current profession. Yet at the same time, he would earn way less for alchemy, doing Heretic-Chosen stuff, and things related to the Malefic Viper’s Legacy unless Primeval Origin Energy was somehow associated with those three, anyway.

Meanwhile, Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins was far closer to his current profession. It remained an alchemy profession, with alchemy still a core part of the skill. Exploring the Legacy of the Malefic Viper was still an important part of it, so upgrading those nine skills would still give plenty of experience. The entire Chosen aspect did seem to get a downgrade compared to what he had now, though far less than Harbinger of Primeval Origins would.

Seeing as Primeval Origin was an essential part of this profession, he would definitely get more experience for things related to that, though again, far less than with Harbinger.

All in all, he would likely end up doing the same things with both, just with a shifted focus and a difference in what was considered most important for his progress. A part of him did fear that his alchemy would end up falling behind if he went with Harbinger, but at the same time, he feared missing out on unknown powers if he didn’t go with it.

This was by far the hardest choice Jake ever had to make between any profession or class evolution. Both of them were truly awesome, and each had pros and cons compared to the other.

If Jake tried to be objective, Harbinger of Primeval Origins was probably the best fit for him. It had manifested from who Jake was and his Bloodline. Meanwhile, Primeval Alchemist was far more tied to the Malefic Viper and alchemy as a whole.

Jake got up from his bed and walked through the lodge as he thought, eventually going onto the porch and sitting down as he stared at the small waterfall and pond. It was serene, giving Jake some time to think. Both professions were so tempting, but what eventually pushed him towards one over the other was something external.

As he sat there, he felt Villy’s passive observation and was reminded that, while this evolution was 100% his choice, he also wanted to consider its broader effect on others. Villy, first and foremost.

The Primordial had helped Jake far more than Jake had helped him; that much was undeniable. Just recently, with Jake wanting to hunt a True Dragon, Villy had gone out of his way to secure hard-to-obtain alchemical ingredients and even found him a good target to hunt down. Whenever Jake had any questions, the snake god was willing to answer, and while he only sometimes gave answers, Jake knew the reason Villy sometimes held back was for Jake’s own sake.

In the Profession Evolution flavor text, the system discussed their relationship becoming more equitable, though it was still far from equal. Jake knew that he was an investment for the Viper and that his progress would help his Patron, but he still felt that Villy had gone above and beyond.

That’s why Jake always comforted himself with the thought that even if he, right now, didn’t do as much for Villy as Villy did for him, that would change at higher grades. While Jake would certainly still benefit the Malefic Viper, even if he became a Harbinger of Primeval Origins... picking it would also mean distancing himself significantly.

Jake knew he would eventually have to make the Legacy of the Malefic Viper more his own than it was right now. Sure, one could ascend to godhood while riding on the coattails of a far more powerful god. In fact, it was easier to ascend that way, but it also nearly always resulted in one never being able to ascend beyond the god one initially followed. Jake was fully intent on not only matching but one day surpassing the Malefic Viper, and had always planned to fully lay claim to the Malefic Viper’s Legacy.

But... going full Harbinger of Primeval Origins felt like a step too far. Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins was still taking a noticeable step away, making the Legacy more his own, but it was far less extreme. A middle ground between simply staying with the status quo and going with Harbinger.

One day, Jake would have taken everything worth taking from the Viper’s Legacy and fully assimilated it into his own Path, but he wasn’t sure that day had to come quite yet.

Everything else being equal, even if Jake was selfish in most things, he did consider the effect on those around him capable of tipping the scales. He also had some qualms about Harbinger that made him reluctant to take it.

He feared the leveling would make it incredibly difficult unless he went on a spree to spread his Primeval Origin Energy across the multiverse. Jake knew there were a lot of factions who would want him to do precisely that, but Jake didn’t feel like it fit who he was.

It was weird to say, but he wanted every instance of him creating or helping evolve another living being to be special. The only exception to that so far had been the Demon Prince, and out of all the times Jake had used his Primeval Origin Energy, that one still felt like the most questionable from a personal perspective.

Sure, Jake technically didn’t have any inherent karmic connection to the creatures he helped, but that didn’t mean he wanted to splurge out Jake Juice all across the multiverse irresponsibly just to level up fast.

With Primeval Alchemist, he could instead focus more on regular poisons and being Villy’s Heretic-Chosen while still making all his Primeval Origin Rituals special.

Also, deep down, Jake wanted to stay an alchemist. Harbinger would slowly take him away from classic alchemy, and while Jake could probably force it to remain a core part of his Path, he didn’t want to force it. He liked alchemy. It was fun. Challenging.

A fundamental misunderstanding many still had about Jake was that he lived only for combat. That wasn’t even remotely true. Jake lived for the challenge. He loved facing difficult challenges and overcoming them. That’s also why the Puzzle Box remained the greatest gift of his Chosen Ceremony by a landslide.

Alchemy was challenging, and Jake liked seeing the fruits of his efforts when he finally finished a good concoction. The satisfaction only grew when he then took that hard-earned poison and used it on an enemy, also taking down a challenging opponent.

One more concern Jake had about Harbinger before not long ago, was that choosing Harbinger would make it harder to see more of the First Sage, but now he believed it was possible with both professions. Primeval Alchemist would likely be better at it, though, due to its connection with Villy.

Again, Harbinger of Primeval Origins remained a fully valid choice, and if Villy wasn’t a factor, Jake could legitimately have ended up just flipping a coin.

Jake took a deep breath and walked over to the pond. He stood there for a few moments and looked down at it before sighing. His instincts were silent, leaving the choice entirely up to Jake, and in the end, he ended up selecting the one that would disappoint most major factions in the multiverse, but also the one that Jake believed was best for now.

Oh, yeah, and one really important thing also pushed Jake to this choice... one he had neglected to even mention before now:

Primeval Alchemist of the Malefic Viper gave Perception. So was it ever really a choice in the first place?

’DING!’ Profession: [Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins] has reached level 350 - Stat points allocated, +125 Free Points

After making the choice, Jake immediately felt a wave of calm as he stopped questioning himself. The decision was made, and he would now just focus on all the goodies this new profession would bring as he was already looking forward to seeing the skills it-

Jake’s eyes opened wide as he felt something weird. Something off. He instinctively looked up, towards the direction Villy was observing from, as he vaguely felt whatever was happening had a connection to the god. Yet it didn’t.

He had planned to wait until after he was done evolving to talk with Villy, but this weird feeling made Jake speak up immediately.

“Hey Vil-“

’DING!’

Jake was interrupted by the sound of a familiar notification he’d just heard moments prior as he stared, and before he could even fully comprehend what had happened…

’DING!’

’DING!’

’DING!’

Comments

Burkes

Aint no way

Misa

Tftc

Edward Woodard

You all suck lmao. 3 seconds into a chapter being released and there’s already comments. Crazy work. Read the damn chapter first so you can comment something useful

Connor

Thanks for the chapter

Liam Wilson

"Yes, there will be one more chapter, either Monday or maybe over the weekend. Please let all the people who will definitely ask on Patreon know." - Zogarth on discord

Kimesh

Thank you thank you THANK YOU! Now Christmas can come! Thanks, Zogarth and happy holidays to you and everyone!

Fdrugc

He fooled us all and I'm glad for it

Ritsu

So what's the bet that Villy just got a level or two from that as well?

Thomas Todd

Zog has already confirmed one more chapter either Monday or over the weekend!

CipherFTW

Fucking CLIIIIIIIIIFFFFFF

SuprKDrgn

Fuckin Cliffhanger!!!!

Lizy Flore

From Zogarth in discord : “Yes, there will be one more chapter, either Monday or maybe over the weekend. Please let all the people who will definitely ask on Patreon know.”

Christopher Nisonger

Thanks for the chapter…. And thanks for already noting that you’d release a chapter next week so we’re not sitting on a cliffhanger

guy nakache

What stop with the clif hangers you mean mean man

Jan

Anyone wants to weigh in: the Ding normally means levels doesn’t it?

Strato Junon

Oh cmon!!!! Drop one more chapter today? Just one more good sir? Tyfc

Bmax

I literally just screamed “FUCK”. Damn you Zog. I love this story so much

KevB

Waht

frankie doerr

We’re getting another chapter right before the break because this is cruel

Jan

Or are these skill upgrades for all his Legacy skills? Would explain the feeling coming from Villy’s direction. I guess the name changes to: Palate of Malefic Origins and so on?

Michael Fannon

I'm guessing we won't see his new class until after the break then. Glad we get one more chapter, cause that is a CLIFF.

Jordan

BRUH.

Loststar7

Thanks for the chapter and the soft cliff today. Happy Friday everyone.

Chris Badawi

Looks like A grade may not be another 2 years of chapters away! Also - just wanna say to zogarth: So well done on the system messages. Crisp, written with concision and clarity. Really helps immerse oneself in the story.

Crystal Hill

Minor thing: in the profession description there’s a bit that says, “… —perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is yet aware of.” That should probably be either “is not yet aware of” or “is yet unaware of.”

Cinaeda

I love the choice and the reasoning!!! still… mean cliff 🤣

Lommy Coldhands

🎼 and that's why they call him cliffhangerr!

djthomp

Jake's bloodline probably wanted the profession choice that gave perception anyway, so Primeval Alchemist it is.

Burkes

System fuckery incoming.

oak

Before anyone freaks, theres another chapter coming before Zog goes on break 👌

Leviathan

Either jake just mass leveled Villy and thus gained levels for it, or something very intense is happening and we're probably going to be stuck on a cliffhanger until after the holidays

Michael mann

4 consecutive profession levels at B Grade within seconds, so he’s Level 352 before even choosing a new class 🤣 Our boy can’t help but break the norms can he?

eatingpitza314

"Zog you liar. You said no massive cliffhanger" - me before I read this.

meh

Oh vilas this is gonna be an awful cliffhanger isn’t it?

taylor ritchie

Do you think the energy is somehow influencing the viper somehow not negatively but I'm a good way since it said more equally will be there balance so do you think this will be the first major thing Jake will do for villy that he simply couldn't do himself

mitchell kaiser

Evil cliff man will do evil cliff things! Thanks Zogarth!

Numors

Amazing chapter, really. I really liked Jake thinking about Villy when choosing the profession, I was kind of feeling bad for villy yesterday with the Harbringer profession.

Tie

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ByLordMatsLuck

Wow thanks for the chappy. Happy holidays

Toff E

I have a strong feeling that the race upgrade skill gave him a mass influx of records based on the records of man, and we are seeing him benefitting from that shift and the karmic tie to the origin he now has.

mucky 12

Any theories on how jake gained so many levels so quickly from the selection? I'm thinking it was due to jakes intent behind his choice that rewarded him with points. Some weird karmic fuckery

SyndaXatrix

I wasn't entirely surprised that Jake ended up picking Primeval Alchemist, especially considering the stat spread but I'm really hoping we get to spend a bit more time exploring Jake's Harbinger status in B-Grade. There's just so many avenues for Jake to do insane things using Jake Juice to push concepts especially post Gate of Enlightenment visit(s)

Jan

I think it’s a skill upgrade/change. All his skills become “of Malefic Origin”

max grok

Oh thank effing Villy. I was having half a heart attack with that cliff.

Daniel Brian

Levels out of nowhere? Or more origin system fuckery? Related to his connection to all humans and allies now?

Gingix

Oof, this wasn't a light cliffhanger. I hope you have a great Christmas. I want to know what happened.

Cory S.

Damn, what a cliff! Zog, please give us another chapter today or Monday. I need it.

Lizy Flore

I completely agree with you.

Davis Martin

Anyone got an idea on what is about to happen?

Jennifer Leigh

An echo of the progress the Viper got from Jake?

Tyler S.

Most likely Villy got a good boost with that choice and it rolled over to affecting Jake as well

Siethrobo

Zog: the cliff won't be too bad. Also Zog:^

Fdrugc

Oof this clif is much worse.

PathOfPen

Ok, clearly we need to clone zogarth and have multiple zogarths writing chapters. I was hoping that it could be avoided, but this isn’t sustainable. Any bio-engineers here?

John

I feel the class name should be Malefic Alchemist of Primeval Origins rather than Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins... it sounds as if it only focuses on Malefic Viper's Origin rather than Primeval Origins in general written the current way.

Fdrugc

Thanks for saying

Chelsa Roberts

Zogarth......your story is tooooo good.

Orod

Damn that was great. Glad the skill was on the same level as the other one. Although Jake really shouldn't care what the other factions want

Kulik Mate

or couse he changed profession his records and jake juice are flowing towards Villy and he is changing too and we will get some jucy chapter in monday becouse it

Fyrtue

Zog is straight up trolling us at this point. Cliff hanging with what amounts to unexplained Jingle Bells to lead into the holiday break?!? Seriously though, my guess is backdated malefic origin exploration credit that leveled him up.

Staudi

Thank you for the chapter zog!

Ira White

Breath just Breath itll be ok worst case scenario its like 2 weeks maybe 3 just go to your happy place. Wait this is my happy place go to your other happy place he just finished book six and is going on break too go too your other other happy place hes on medical break go to your break glass in case of emergency happy place. Fine ill go back and reread spellmonger again 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Pekka Kohonen

I think he upgraded the origins of all of humanity, and gained levels from that. He may have upgraded the origins and legacy of the Malefic Viper by choosing a profession so closely tied to his Patron. He is just a B-grade but the Viper is an uber-God of some sort (Primordial? was it). Upgrading the Records of huge numbers of people (93 universes) even a little could net a huge amount of experience/Records to Jake in turn. Same for the much higher-level Viper. He could not get the experience from the racial evolution before selecting profession - especially one that focuses on origin energy. But of course if he had chosen the Harbinger, he would have likely gotten a lot more experience...

Dave

Yup

Orod

Good time to re-read or re-listen to the books 🤣

Kasi

ZOGARTH YOU DARE HANG US OFF A CLIFF WITH NOTHING BUT A STRAND OF ROPE AND HOPE TO DANGLE OFF OF??? Anyways TFTC, love you dude no homo

Dave

Great stuff!! Have a great vacation.

Alexikon

I think B grade will be a fast one and A grade will be slower and S Grade will be fast and The Breakpoint to Godhood will be extremely long, because God hood was described as nearly impossible. Then the first few God realms are fast again. Or Zog makes everything longer.

Fdrugc

I was hoping he would pick Harbinger of Primeval Origins as i feel he could still get Villy's legacy and I think embracing the origin class would be more challenging and beneficial to him. It would also be cool if he used Origin energy in alchemy

Tyler S.

Cant wait for Jake to start adding his Juice to hunters mark by adding the weight of history to the attack. Figured the higher amout of Perception from Harbinger would make more of a deciding factor but also that he wouldnt go for such a big alteration just yet. And what/how did this evolution do to Villy for levels to be spilling back over to Jake? Cant wait, enjoy your vacay Zog

DragonsSin

Gimme chapter noooooow what's happening reeeeeeee

Tyler S.

I believe its exp rollover from the boost that Villy just got

Fyrtue

My take is that it's phrased how it is due to the impact his path of the heretic chosen skill has had on Jake.

Architect

Zogarth “I’m not going to leave a cliffhanger there will be a cliff but not a big one” Behold the Mother of All Cliffs!!!

Tyler S.

Wonder how this will mess with his class choice lol

Koby

I feel like the order of those words are very important. Keeping Malefic Alchemist separated it stand somewhat independent of primeval origins. Primeval origins are certainly to be explored, what better place to look than a primordial? It’s a blend that fits his path. A banger from zogarth imo

Ben Maes

What a lovely cliff hangar. Don't mind the voodoo doll.

Crow Says Caw

The cliff dao is strong with this one 😂 TFTC!

Koby

That’s the best idea I’ve ever heard, let’s make this happen😂

Ramadasa Butler

We didn't even get to the new or upgraded skills that come with choosing a Profession upgrade. Maybe that was the Profession utilising the new or upgraded skills. First two Ding!'s for Profession, third Ding! for Race and forth Ding for Profession. Race (351), Class (349), Profession (353)

C0bra$

Thank u for the story

BumAssBumAss

I expected this and it still sucks.

phil

damn dude that was a lot of writing for something i think we all knew jake was gonna pick swear you're doing this to tease us at this point

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter. Gah! The Cliff grows stronger.

Dustin Bauer

It won't be 2 years, it will probably be 3+ years of chapters.

thkiwow

I hope yhere'll be less fillers in the published novel.

nathan

Splurge out make juice all across the universe hahaha 😂😂

JW Saxby

No no no! No Ding ding ding damn it lol don’t end it like that ya major cliffing bastard lmfao 🤣 why are you like this Zog, I feel like I must be a masochist because as much as I hate a cliff hanger I can’t stop reading them week after week just torturing myself and loving it. Clearly I must just be a degenerate reader then 😅😅😅 this is what you’ve turned me into you brilliant storytelling bastard you! 🍻 Merry Christmas and/or happy holidays mate and thank you for the chapter as always 👍🏼

phil

if only Travis wasn't busy recording 200 other books lmao

Jaydan Man

the act of choosing that profession gave him experience because the choice was made to benefit Villi. The idea of a b grade helping a god by merely choosing a class is both heretical in thinking he is so significant, and also chosen, because helping patron. So a bunch of levels ? Or the class gave Villy a bunch of levels, or both ? Or skills are changing to add origin into them ? I really think its the first option tho

Corey bess

Merry christmas zog. Thanks for taking time during the holidays.

Brody Stafford

I think the phrasing works because it shows that he is starting his path as a Primeval Alchemist with its origin coming from the Malefic Alchemist profession. If it was called Malefic Alchemist of Primeval Origins, it would just still be Jake following in Villy’s shadow instead of branching out on his own somewhat

Ben Sheahan

Could the Records related to Jake's Juice have bled over to Villy because of his Profession? Jake then instantly gaining a few levels for the Chosen helping his Patron?

Kyle Stitt

OMG I thought u said u weren’t going to leave the car teetering on a cliffs edge!! 😱

Margrave Fel

"How much circular yapping did you put in the chapter before fucking off to holiday vacation?" "Yes." It's getting deep into the 'not funny' territory at this point.

John

Fair, a primordial is a peak Origin to explore.. I just read the profession name in a way that makes it sound as if it's scope/breadth has been narrowed even if it still has the same depth so to speak

John

I like this, well put

scarredrazor

Zog... This isn't funny... April fools is still months away!

Grond (James)

I am feeling the exact same way about it.

Joseph Astroth

Levels based on Villy fully digesting Vip of Yor??

JW Saxby

I’m sure each clone would just cliff us more frequently then lol.

Marc Jay Arr Cotamora

Probably about the unknown faction responsible for jake's abduction. Previously, Vilas and Eversmile captured that student who attended Jake's lecture. they probably found something relevant and worth the records and achievements hence the level ups. With Jake' help with the lecture and his bloodline during the abduction, they managed to uncover something. My bet is on the Neurotars.

Kjell

Good news Zog said that there's gonna be one more chapter. Monday at the latest maybe even earlier

J

I was thinking of Jake, where to make a touch of the maleic viper his own as touch of the primeval hunter. What do you think it’s affects would be? I’m thinking if you were to infuse shake juice into the attack, he might be able to alter the origins of what he attacked?

Clint

DING! Love the obvious-with-hindsight revelation about his visions. Love how the chapter was a perfect pre-break resolution until… DING!

Yiskah

Rather than huffing and declaring I will stop reading the series because of all the “filler” I think I’m instead going to have to stop reading the comment section. We have so many mysteries and paths to explore yet the collective readership lacks so in imagination that all they seem to notice about these chapters is that they end before every possible thing that could be explored was. I’m thinking back about this whole evolution so far and am trying to imagine how one could even have written them without any cliffhangers? Should Jake have left Minaga’s and then we should have gotten a 1 chapter summary of this entire evolution so far? How could one even have written that and have it be interesting or engaging? What, precisely, ought to have been cut to not have “filler” and what ought to have been changed about the pacing to not have cliffs without tripling or quadrupling the length of each chapter and without leaving details out? Especially when considering that the moments or recapping past points in the text are for book readers who aren’t so fanatical they’re paying for a sneakpeak preview of the next books and who likely had read the last PH months ago and might appreciate a recap? Honestly the comment sections are always the most disappointing part about these chapters. So much imagination from the author, so little from the readers. Zog, happy holidays and thanks for a wonderful year of storytelling. I’ve enjoyed every minute of them, and I for one appreciate the inspiration you give me to dream about what might come next rather than you just spoon feeding me all the answers.

Kjell

On DC Zog said that there's gonna be another on maybe this weekend or at the last monday

Rooooaaaaaarrrrr

What if Jake becomes a dragon version of Villy.

DaMule

Now that is how you recon something. I love how you tied Jake Juice with the path of the heretic chosen. Also, great cliffhanger Z! TFTC

JW Saxby

🛑 Stop it ✋🏻

Margrave Fel

You are aware that it would make a third of the chapters obsolete, yes?

JW Saxby

Soft cliff?!? 🤯😵‍💫😵😭

John McGurn

For anyone here who didn’t know. There will be one more chapter either over the weekend or on Monday according to Zog

Mike

I tried to read all the comments to see but I definitely skimmed. Either way it seems like 2 things are being missed. 1. Zog didn't really say he would try to avoid a cliff this Friday but that he may post a chapter on Monday to avoid a massive cliff before breaking. I mean no guarantee that he does maybe this is the cliff that we will wait on but damn it's a hell of a lot better than waiting before the professional selection or something like that. 2. Who said the dings have to be levels? The system dings when messages pop up. And what messages popped up the last time he evolved? Changes to his blessing of course. Not sure what changes with this pick though. I was pretty sure if harbinger was picked Jake may have gained control over the blessing to the point he could have gave it up again or some else like that with the way the profession was worded.

Megabeast_pro01

He said he would do 1 more chapter either on weekend or Monday in Discord

Megabeast_pro01

He said he would do 1 more chapter either on weekend or Monday in Discord

Megabeast_pro01

Don't worry this isnt the cliff He said he would do 1 more chapter either on weekend or Monday in Discord

Megabeast_pro01

Don't worry this isnt the cliff He said he would do 1 more chapter either on weekend or Monday in Discord

Matt

Villy is (was) the human version of Villy

Corey bess

*sigh* yea pretty much

Alex

Zog loves his fucking cliffs

Matt

He did still have that world core in his stomach..

Daymond Walford

I mean I guess it’s not too much of a cliff… just left us with a few dings.

Mike

I love this, such a great way to explain the comment problem. And the real solution is is if cliff hangers really trigger you so much to enjoy this beautiful series less then maybe they need to just be book readers and enjoy the books in all their no cliff glory.

Corey bess

I feel as if its more than 4. Like the rapid fire dings made me feel like it was rolling in heavy. Its christmas i feel like instead of giving us a present zog is giving jake one. I wouldnt be shocked if jake shot up like 20 levels or something dumb.

Margrave Fel

People wouldnt bitch if there were no reason to. Of course people with sunk cost fallacy will slurp any filler up that they get, ignoring the repeating content of the paragraphs of a chapter just to fill space... but people are giving 5 or even 10 bucks a month for a story, not for circular yapping and a third of the chapters being practically story irrelevant filler

Potato Sandwich1

YOU CAN'T CUT ME OFF THERE!! What the heck?!? I'm hoping quite a bit that there is a chapter Monday

Corey bess

Hes just being honest with you. Why rush. Enjoy long ride.

Corey bess

Youll be MORE sad when its over. So just enjoy

Michael mann

Oh I’ll bet his new race skill just gave a huge boost to Villy and Artemis as his patron/best buddy and Girlfriend respectively

Fyrtue

I think the "familiar notification he'd heard just moments prior" is what made me think levels.

Margrave Fel

How else would he keep his paypigs giving him 5-10$ a month?

Ira White

We shall see but even if he does grace us with another chapter from the holy books of Villy's chosen it will only be to dangle us further off of the cliff and maybe cut a few more twines in said rope. Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

Kristopher Hanson

Oh ik I read it but thats bc this chapter should have been apart of yesterday's chapter. He basically repeated the same paragraph like 4 times in different words talking about the 2 evos. The next chapter is just gonna hurt more. 😫

Jacob Mahler

You just have a big mustache you twirl while making an evil laugh don't you haha. Jokes aside I'm loving these chapters and theorizing what comes next. Your book has pushed me to try and write my own, so thank you for your inspiration! If you have any advice on your cliffhangers, I'd love to learn your ways.

Xander

TFTC :) Have a great weekend all and I'll see you back here Monday for the last chapter of the year (maybe) suggested edits: "which the Primordial himself is yet *aware* of" should be "unaware" from context. Also strongly consider ditching the "yet" "Jake would "have taken" everything worth taking from the Viper’s Legacy and fully "assimilated" it into his own Path" wrong tense for this sentence. Should be "take" and "assimilate" for future tense meaning at some point Jake will have done that but that day is not today.

Corey bess

Say what series does zog like? Anyone know? Like does he draw inspiration from anything earlier in life?

JW Saxby

If he were to do that (I don’t think that’s where the story will go but IF it were) then I reckon a skill like “Touch of the Primeval Hunter” as you put it would act basically like the character Eri from My Hero Academia’s quirk works. By rewinding the touched target backwards, de-ageing them till they reverse to the point of not even being born and being erased essentially. Which is kinda what Jake has already previously done slightly when fighting the copy of Valdemar in Nevermore. Kinda.

Margrave Fel

It is not about the cliffhanger, it is about the irrelevant yapping and writing in circles that people been noticing getting worse and worse for months now

Ira White

Yeah im definitely not rocking back and forth trying to convince myself its only 2 weeks lmao

Daniel Barton

TYFTC!!! Should've known when you made the comment about a possible chapter next week because you didnt want too bad of a cliff hanger 😒

WhiteLincoln

Zog said there will be one more chapter on Monday or over the weekend on discord

Rewdan

Wait, what, this is not how Zogarth is leaving us is it!

Thread9000

Tftc. Definitely skill mods based on his new profession. Will be interesting if it knocks his skills down in rarity though. But I bet this should result is Villy getting some records too. PS I love all the reflections (aka filler).

Ira White

And just like that by simply choosing his profession he maxed it out at level 700 🤣 🤣 🤣

J

see that’s where my head went originally, but then I was taking the amount of primeval origin juice or Jake juice that that would require would knock them unconscious if you’re not kill him to pull off that effect. I was thinking more or less he affects their origins and tiny ways like tweaking their records. If he’s fighting the swords and pulls off the touch, he’ll be in a weak state, but he might be able to make the sword saint, forget his footing or something along that line. Not even really to the degree of like making him forget how to use a sword maybe if you were to do something like that it’d be like a timed to affect. He would forget how to use a sword for a few seconds to be confused. But yeah, even a few seconds would be the meaning of life and death and battles at this level now.

Timothy Spradlin

Almost guessed it, was off by the second half lol, though arguable in the same vein

Numbzy

I really hope that we get a conversation between Jake and Vilas over Visions. Jake's like, 'I finally figured it out those visons' and Vilas 100% already knows.

Corey bess

I enjoy all of this thoroughly. The prose is very much the conflicted internal dialogue of someone not so good at working through problems when it doesnt rely on instinct. Jake is an animalistic and carnal entity. I find myself repeating things in my internal dialogue when mulling things over in much the same way usually in order to convince myself or because i like torturing myself. So idk could just be me but i relate to the way the prose works. Sometimes its a BIT much but again. Youll be more sad when its over and you have to find a new series to click with. I know im having a hard time with that myself just due to having to wait. So far after a few days of being caught up i still havent found another scratch for this itch. Respectfully.

Mike

I guess I took it too generally since all dings pretty much sound the same. But thinking on it with the way zog writes Jakes thoughts it seems likely he would only say that if the ding has the same meaning behind it.

Corey bess

Bro hes popping out 5 chapters a week. As someone who writes myself thats a breakneck pace. Who cares about a few editting errors. Thatll be fixed when the actual book happens. We are paying to be at the forefront of the lore. Not see completely polished work. I mean dont get me wrong i teased zog about it once or twice just to be a dick but i doubt the man needs course correction from us.

Ira White

Title- Mortal of God's upgrading[scared]. Threw your powers of primeval origins, a heathly dose of system fuckery, and by choosing this Profession you have greatly increased the power of not one but several of the gods you are connected too. +100 stats per level in every gods strongest stat you upgraded. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Rewdan

I think it could be something bad 🫣

Mike

If this series is just a story from a to b then we have to be reading different series. The entire multi verse Zog is building and the entire cast of characters that exist in it are a huge chuck of what makes this story so good. Not Jake speed running grades and picking his next steps on his path all in one chapter. No one says we have to spend money either or that we should be guaranteed chapters. If reading this is a 5 chapter a week format ruins the story for someone then cancel the sub and buy the books as they come out. They will end up getting a long break due to how far ahead we are and maybe actual enjoy the story again for the reasons that drove them to support on this site.

Dale

You do have to appreciate the irony, where Jake goes on about how good it feels to complete a potion, hunt, etc…. And the chapter ends on a solid cliffhanger

Bobo

Tyfc

Spencer Wilson

i dont think zog minds the "suggested edits" in the comments, as you said, the man pumps out 5 chapters a week, a little help from his little army of dedicated proofreaders is appreciated at best, and ignored at worst. i cant find the quote but im pretty sure hes specifically said this kind of thing is appreciated in the past. some stuff slips through the cracks

Rewdan

It’s stated on Discord

Kyle Davis

Someone still needs to point out the typos…. And I would bet someone reads these comments and marks down the errors because even editors can miss a word. The comment above is in a helpful tone as well.

Nebulous

I think the original commentor mentioned the suggested edits for the Royal Road release and to be helpful. I've read many LitRPGs, and many have a ton of editing mistakes. A lot rely on folks to suggest edits and farm it out to the community. There is a section on the Discord to report typos on Royal Road. So no, I don't think they are insulting the author by suggesting edits. Zogarth can ignore them or take them as he chooses.

Rewdan

I was thinking that it might be something ominous

Spencer Wilson

FOR ANYONE WONDERING, ZOGARTH CONFIRMED IN DISCORD THERE WILL BE ONE MORE CHAPTER BEFORE THE BREAK! REJOICE!

Ty Cooper

Lol it doesn't say that Villy had to keep him as a chosen. Who thinks Villy would take away the true blessing to mess with Jake? Tftc. Marry Cliffsmas to all. Lol

Joken

Remember when Zogarth said the cliff won’t be that bad? Hahahahahhahaha Evolve to B grade Something is off Hey Villy Ding Ding Ding Ding …

Rewdan

I’m hoping it’s all good but I’m quite a bit concerned it’s not going to be 🫣

Rewdan

I’m on my second whisky’s and it’s only 13:40

Nebulous

If you don't like it, don't subscribe. Read the book in one session when it is published. Zog said on the Discord he will give another chapter to not end with the break on such a cliff. Being a dick is not helpful to anyone.

zran

thanks for the cliffhanger....

Drexnaw

he announced that he will do a chapter on monday and possibly tuesday to finish up the evolution but then said dont woprryu you will get a holiday cliffhanger

zran

perhaps a monday chapter will happen?

Wen L.

Yay there is a shout out to Sim-Jake, miss the mercenary loner jake

Nebulous

Then stop subscribing and read the whole book at once when it is published. Insulting the author doesn't help anyone.

Michael

Look at me Hector

Sarianne

I really hope we'll still get a chapter next week and that we won't have to wait till next year for the next chapter

Bjarne Hansen

He is now touching on divinity, not just that but would love to see him bring artemus to see his parents .9

Corbin

My thought exactly! It’s pretty recent that everyone has been commenting “filler” anyway.

Christopher

Remember when Zogarth said there was another chapter coming on Monday?

Rewdan

Let’s get Tom involved

Joken

Can you imagine, Touch if the Primal Hunter or Touched by the Primal Hunter. It would play perfectly into Jake’s uncomfortable feelings and the women of the universe trying to be his prey.

Keion

Love the story but whole chapter to pick a skill then it’s still a cliff is kinda crazy

zran

he said he might make more chapters to prevent to end in a strong cliffhanger, so better assume zog might end adding a monday chapter if not on the week end

zran

world building is a important of this story, and most of what he wrote was about the conection between his heretic-chosen path skill and jake juice

ABTelford

Thank you for that info! ❤️

Endern

I'm surprised Jake hasn't mentioned his fuck up with his Origin energy and Palate. I think this part of the description heavily references that: "Origins of Primeval nature are yours to explore, and not even the Legacy of your Patron is off limits."

ABTelford

He can’t. Neither of them can reject the blessing now until Jake reaches godhood. It’s why he could badmouth Villy so convincingly in the ElHakkan arc.

J W

Its going to change all his profession skills

Corey bess

Fair i just took it as someone trying to come down on the man and i dont like thinking of creators i like getting put down for minor things when they do so much to put cool shit out for us. I meant well! But if zog approves then ah well who am i to say he shouldnt.

zran

the *ding*'s might be his profession skills changing to fit his upgraded profession

Sarianne

People do bitch without reason, people love to whine about things, they f8nd things to be angry about even if there is nothing obvious. Some people just bitch just because they can. Nobody is forced to pay to read the advanced chapters. I myself love the writing style and the variety between fighting, preparation, conversations, introspect, other pov's and crafting. I do pay so I know what happens next without having to wait for the next book 😇 and am sometimes a bit impatient to know what will happen in the next chapter, but that just means Zogarth is doing a good job, if we weren't curious about the next thing to come it would probably be a boring read and we wouldn't be here on Patron. Anyway, no speculating for me, I'll just impatiently wait for the next chapter 🥰

J W

Exactly my thought. It was clearly that because it was described as the same sound he recently heard. His skills did this after his race evolution.

Kristopher Hanson

Its a joke the first commentor got that. Relax guy don't be so thin skinned ffs. I can talk all I want about how were being edged more than ever here its my comment thread. If I felt so strong I would do that. Now run along.

Sarianne

Ahh, thanks to all the ppl who commented before I now know we will get an other chapter before the break 🥰

Pantheon

I should’ve immediately guessed which one he’d pick based on one not giving perception. I didn’t even read the stats they gave. I hope I would have picked that up in audiobook form. Ignoring the cliff, I think Jake made the right choice not fully distancing his path from the Viper. It’s still an important source of records and a big part of his identity. Better to start the process with this new profession and use the A and S grade evolutions to finish up than to do it all now at B grade. He’s got a long way to go before the peak.

Tom Roe

You better not be leaving this until after Christmas. I'm raging.

Colton Horton

Splurge out Jake Juice all across the multiverse irresponsibly. Im dying. 👀😵

KodamaZelk

Got to be the legacy skills. They couldn't handle being shorter in description than his spirit skill.

Manowar

It's a nice theory I had not thought of! Do think it would happen way down the line and would have to somehow integrate with his Fangs of Man since his race is also tied to the bloodline just like the origin energy and (what we know now) his profession as well. Would not surprise me if we find out a lot from his class is also using jake juice passively...

Numbzy

Praise the Malefic Writer!

Djinko

Still remember the fact he will still do a cliffhanger …

Mat

It was due to Heretic-Chosen profession. With it now gone. He should be able to reclaim his blessing.

hocusfire

Zogarth confirmed it is levels he's getting on discord

Manowar

He aid he would post another chapter over the weekend or next week to prevent that... or at least prevent too big of a cliff. It's impossible at this point for there not to be one at all.

James Lucas

Reading comprehension is hard.

Shai182

The End of Cliff Week, With no surprise to anyone with a Huge Cliff.... now we wait...

Kyle Stitt

lol ya I know lol just being dramatic is all 🤣

James Lucas

He never said he wouldn't leave us on a cliff. Just that he might have a chapter or 2 for us next week to ease the size of the cliff.

Colton Horton

You have to wait until Zog hits B-grade before he can have sustainable clones. Sucks for us, but can't be helped. 😮‍💨

Loststar7

I mean it’s not raining fire or tungsten bars, Haven didn’t have a suddenly erupt in explosions, another “dead” god isn’t standing next to him. I’ll take a few surprise bonus levels and some weird shit coming from Villy over a more energetic cliffhanger.

NSaaby

Ding ding ding. You got mail

Numbzy

We noticed it. Hoping for a mid to late B Grade shenanigan around this idea. Maybe Sense or Touch.

NSaaby

I wonder if Jake will ever find the Origin of the system 😁

oak

Probably Monday, but could be over the weekend he said

oak

There's a discord, most updates are posted on there.

Austin

You just couldn’t help yourself: “but that didn’t mean he wanted to splurge out Jake Juice all across the multiverse irresponsibly just to level up fast.” I’ve officially decided I’ve gotta break the chain so I can stop getting these nibbles of story. Headed over to catch up on DotF until we’re back from break. TFTC and Merry Christmas!

Dave

I just saw on Discord there will one more chapter either over the weekend or on Monday.

Joken

I was not aware that he confirmed the additional chapter. I’m only aware of his posting here saying there may or may not be another chapter. I’m not complaining at all, I’m just amazed by his deviousness.

Christophe H.

Clearly not a Cliff ending at all. Thanks for the chapter! Best wishes for the festive season !

Josie

That's actually an amazing question

Ra

You forget the fact that his bloodline will likely not accept a +720 to all stats, combining the last two options into one. Just like his Race...

ThatCryptid

I bet his parents wish he would! They'd love more grandbabies

Ra

A short cliff you said! Jake's bloodline is bullying the system again, trying to combine the two choices into one. Either that or he's gaining levels due to something the unknown faction is doing. In either case, Happy Holidays to all!

Joken

I think it’s a mix. With his new racial skill it is easier to flow down records. Jake choosing to remain loyal to Villy while choosing his profession will be beneficial for Villys records. Therefor Villy might get a level and Jake will benefit as his chosen. And yes I think somehow him choosing this profession will also impact all his friends, subject, allies and humans… Omg it’s gonna be fun to round all this up.

Josie

hmm. maybe I should join discord

Ra

Yeah I was wondering that same yesterday. About how the system had improved due to Jake's bloodline. Not only that, The First Sage would also have somehow benefited from it.

Joken

With some liquor you could reduce the perceived time significantly. Not recommend it due to health reasons. Ask your doctor for professional advice!

JW Saxby

It’s something at least lol

Ra

Don't go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Nathan Holliday

Zogarth you are a bastard! How do you right a cliffhanger every fucking day. And I’m still eating it up as tears roll down my face because of another damn cliff!

Ra

Well, TBF, he posted the same on Patreon. Left us guessing how many chapters there would be/the number of cliffs.

blarper

I’ll throw out my theory, with Jake officially becoming more than a heretic chosen, taking his first steps on his own outside of Villy’s legacy in his progression. I assume this is something the system likes, or is the whole goal of having blessings/chosen for non faith based gods. Villy is about to get some nice loot/rewards/ title and Jake’s going to know about it, have system confirmation. Something like due to your steps outside the path of your patron villy has gained 5% perception(don’t think it will be this) and Jake is still a heretic chosen so he’s going to get lvls/rewards of some sort. Would love for y’all folks thoughts

Ocellus

I was wondering why in the hell this chapter was taking so long to get to the point, and now I know why…. Gonna be a long weekend.

blucube 14

Thanks for the chapter!

Ithuriel

Readers everywhere reached the end of the chapter and groaned, “Fucking Zogarth”. It’s really shameful to be this openly sadist Zog.

ThatGuy

Idk if it’s levels or skills changing rarity or concerning else entirely but my god I need that next chapter

Sean

Just a question wouldn’t it be Malefic Alchemist of Primeval Origins? With the other way around it sounds like the origins switched from Primeval to Malefic. Just curious.

Nick Elliott

Thank you again Zog. Excellent chapter. I was genuinely swinging from one to another as he debated which way to go (he picked the one I would have picked plenty of time in A and S grade to separate his legacy). I look forward to all the cliff related boiled p*ss in the comments!

Im So Dunn

totally ‘not a big cliff hanger’ smhmh

Yvng Dante

What manner of nonsense is this, zogarth at it again with rage bait level cliffs

Ni

One thing I'm surprised Jake didn't consider was how his B grade version was way better than his C grade version of harbinger. Might change further in A

Carl Never

I did have to open my eyes a few times. But i get out of bed and read the chapter so i just figured it was my eyes.

Josh Waddill

Pretty sure he won't be back until January....

Gardor

"Jake technically didn’t have any inherent karmic connection to the creatures he helped" How can this be true? Dont people get karmic connections with everyone they meet, and the larger your impact on someone, the greater the connection?

Alexandre8901

Villy's leveling to? What a great heretic chosen!

Yami

He has a weak connection. And villy explained why during the meeting with the three factions. Can't remember exactly why

Yami

He should take it at a

Carl Never

Im going to jizz my pants when we finally get to have a parent meet up again. I think they will have to come to the order and all the humans will brag about how human they are.

Humane

It's not gone.. It's still in the wording. Just not the title.

Gardor

I dunno, i still think its a little weird that being a god seems dependent on levels, like you cant become a god until you pass level 1500 or whatever. Like, you cant become a god in B tier, you need to be evolve into a god from S tier.

Lawrence Dillon

No no no no noooo not this cliff this is an everest sized cliff

Joshua Davis

Love the chapter, and the well thought out decision, as he still wants some connection to Billy but has started taking those little steps away to make his own path.

Carl Never

They like him because he helped them but he just lead records he didnt make them his own or give them any of his. Just gave them a history lesson

Evan

I have been a member for almost a year and a half and have yet felt the need to make a comment. Zogarth how could you rage bait like this. Keep it up.

Gardor

Im real glad i am not as invested in this story as everyone raging against the cliff, as much as id like to see some cool skill blurbs i can survive a couple weeks without resolution.

Oblivion

Right… so is Jake’s bloodline abusing the system again and giving him a better combination of both?

Jamie

Cliffs are clearly a substantial part of Zogarth’s path.

Daryl

Very cool profession; it certainly didn't disappoint. I'm also glad Jake is staying an alchemist, because alchemy is cool. Jake power leveling immediately after making his pick is also very on brand lol.

Will

I think he’ll probably take it at A too. Plenty of time to talk it through with Villy too.

IntenseSushi

Tftc “he wanted to splurge out Jake Juice” Zog you dog

Zachary

Perception is the best stat so was that profession really even good if it didn’t provide perception?

boffadeez

He truly is a master of his craft man

Stephen B.

I think "of primeval origins" would mean the origin switched from Villy to Jake himself - but "of malefic origins" keeps the closer tie to Villy that his profession has always had.

IntenseSushi

And god is that a fire profession name

definitelynotbrjenness

first and only thought so far...a b grade using an ability/skill to assist several people to reach B grade might be worthy of a few levels

boffadeez

Agreed my thoughts exactly plenty of time in A and S grade to being diverting more

Sean

Well that’s the thing if you change it from primeval to Malefic that would mean that the origins are tied to Villy instead of the job title. I don’t think the origin power came from Villy. That’s why asked.

boffadeez

Exactly maybe even S to fully begin his own origins before godhood while remaining beside villy and exploring that for as long as mortally possible

SinCinnamon

THE CLIFF WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE THAT HIGH!!!!! I HAVE BEEN LIED TO!!! TFTC, here’s hoping for a Monday chap 🍻 Cheers!

AWKW1ZARD

If those are skills upgrading... Bloodline mic drop moment. Buuuuut there's no way Jake gets off that easy. Definitely levels if not something unforseen. Maybe multiple changes to his chosen-heretic status?

Wheels42

"splurge out Jake Juice" Word choice both horrific and excellent. 11/10 Editing suggestions: "Malefic Viper’s powers – perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is yet aware of." The sentence I think needs a not in front of the yet. As in "himself is not yet aware of"

SinCinnamon

Zog’s profession is Writing Master of Cliffs. He doesn’t progress if there is no cliff.

Stephen B.

Yeah, agreed - Jake consciously chose the profession in large part for Villy's sake, so now Villy gets the rewards for being awesome 😁

Tercius

Dafuk that cliffhanger...

Lemonsqueezy

Here is to hoping for a Monday and Tuesday chapter to finish off the B-Grade evolution. It would be painful to have to wait until Jan 5th before we get to see not only what the end of this chapter is talking about but also what he gets for his class upgrade.

boffadeez

Nah he mentioned dropping another chapter somewhere just so we're not hanging like this. We can only hope

Kurai Kami Sedrick

Gonna Assume Villy got a massive exp boost for Jake mixing his Origin and Malefic legacy together which is resulting in him getting a massive amount of proffression exp? Maybe that sounds dumb, I'm just spit balling

Lemonsqueezy

I am assuming all the "DING"s are all of his legacy skills upgrading because his Bloodline and the Primeval Origins skill pumping Jake Juice into the skills. Could also be upgrades to all the passive skills (like brew potion/poison) upgrading because of the same forces.

Pyro 71

The wording makes him his own person while still being connected to Villy. Primeval Alchemist is his own unique title. "Of Malefic Origins" makes it clear who helped develop him thus far.

Lemonsqueezy

On par for a normal cliff hanger, but unless we get chapters on Monday and Tuesday to finish off the upgrade this would be by far the meanest cliff hanger Zog has ever dropped on us.

boffadeez

I can't believe i pay zogarth 10 bucks a month to cuck me like this. And I love it lmao well done mate 👏

Yami

Nah he needs to start sooner

Stephen B.

Ya can't have steak for every meal, gotta have some veggies and filler in there too 😁 they just make the steak that much more enjoyable!

Stephen B.

What if Zog is a Minaga clone??? Zinaga! 😂

Donald Duck

This mf jake talking bout the relationship not being equal but at the level the primordials are it’s so hard to gain experience and level up so this guy jake just farmed so much xp for villy. It’s not equal in terms of villy not doing enough

Corey bess

Im glad one person understood and got a giggle

Elijah Soleil

I think what the class is getting at is that he is a Primal Alchemist but his origins as an alchemist were malefic. I think it’s an intermediary class between a malefic alchemist and a primal alchemist.

Lemonsqueezy

The chapter said that essentially the two skills were the same. Only difference being what Jake would have to focus on to gain levels in his profession. Neither skill completely removed the ability to do what the other did. The one Jake chose gave more perception, and Jake loves perception. I do think that if the skill didn't provide any or as much perception as Harbinger he would have not chosen it. On the other side of the argument, I think Zog is rather set on Jake being an alchemist. Mostly because it is something Jake chose to do. Jake's Primeval Origin energy was something that his bloodline just bestowed upon him making it something Jake didn't achieve on his own. There is no feeling of accomplishment associated with getting the ability. I am going to assume that Jake will start focusing more on his Jake Juice skill in A-Grade when he starts moving away from riding the coattails of Villy, which he needs to do anyway to reach Godhood. Or maybe not, it could just remain to be something Jake can do. I think one of the requirements is becoming his own person and removing anything that continues to define him as being reliant on Villy. Being a Chosen boosts your ability to gain records and puts you on a fast track to godhood. Essentially being pulled into equalizing the power levels between the god and his chosen. Like how slipstreaming or drafting does in sports like NASCAR and Formula One. The title of Chosen is lost once the person reaches Godhood, it is where (I assume) the god gets the bulk of his investment from his chosen and is then able to choose a new Chosen without any backlash. It would also grant Jake the ability to start handing out blessings and finding a chosen (if he wants one). Jake having a chosen would definitely not fit his personality though, he really isn't much of a leader or advisor.

Gman

Stored experience from all the primeval rituals being applied all together.

Alex

Are you insane? The worst cliffhanger was when Zog went on break for like a full month right when Jake was walking in the arena for his final fight with Valdemar. This isn’t even close to that level of shitfuckery.

Lemonsqueezy

Alchemy is also something Jake earned from his own dedication to the craft. While his Jake Juice is essentially something he was just "given" by his bloodline. Jake loves the feeling of accomplishment, dedicating his time and energy into something and producing something. Primeval Origin gives him the same thing when he creates a unique being, but it can only be done occasionally. It also doesn't do anything that benefits his class or hunting. He creates something new and then that is it, the creature goes off and does it's own thing. Alchemy gives the dopamine kick when he creates a poison, and then Jake gets another one when he uses that poison successfully in a fight. A "Two birds one stone" kind of thing. That is my opinion anyway.

FringeZtar

DING DING DING- well played Zog. I imagine there won't be another chapter till next year and this is him celebrating all the winter holidays hahaha. As much as I hate it, mad respect. That aside, I remember in earlier books Jake thinking that there was either one Malefic Legacy skill he had yet to unlock or that they all came together as part of one major skill. I wonder where that theory will land- especially with Sacred Meditation and his Anomalous Soul skill upgrades.

Lemonsqueezy

"Harbinger of Frustrating Cliff-Hangers" (Sacred) - Gain experience from leaving your readers frustrated and longing for your return for the next chapter. Bonus experience gained when cliff-hanger falls on a long holiday or vacation.

Alex

I think what’s happened here is that by upgrading his profession, Jake has yoinked more Records from Villy through his Blessing. This happened back when Jake hit C grade too: Villy said when Jake upgraded his profession to Heretic-Chosen that he’d actually reduced the number of Blessings he could hand out to other people.

PatienceHoney

Whew! I was worried about my PH cliff stress on top of holiday stress...

Lemonsqueezy

I think in this case his Bloodline just forced a lot of skill upgrades against the system's wishes. At this point Jake's bloodline is like a big brother making sure Jake doesn't get ripped off or bullied by a salesman (The System).

Lemonsqueezy

It is frustrating if this becomes the actual cliff hanger before the vacation (not getting a chapter on Monday and/or Tuesday). Mostly because I would have like to see the B-Grade evolution be finished, or at least know what choices Jake gets for his class. I am not that upset about it though. My ADHD will have me forget about it soon anyway, and I will be pleasantly reminded when Zog returns and I get that notification on my phone of a new chapter in January.

Lemonsqueezy

I know it is a typo or an auto-correct, but I am definitely going to start calling him Billy.

Lemonsqueezy

Ooo, that is an interesting thought. Maybe those Dings are not only for Jake but also for Villy.

C. Adkins

I was thinking the same. Until I thought that the Primeval Alchemist is equivalent to his Primal Hunter name. And Malefic Origins is referring to Jake’s alchemy history coming from the Malefic Viper’s legacy. So it’s saying Jake is now the Primeval Alchemist, who branched from Villys legacy

C. Adkins

Yo Alex! I spent a lot of time blocking out that memory. At least kiss the brick next time you chunk it at my head! /j

Dalton Service

Alright that's it. Zog is just a villain at this point! How can we make it through the holidays standing on this cliff...

Lemonsqueezy

I think it is in the wording. There are karmic connections that form when two people meet, then there are inherent karmic connections. Inherent means a permanent or essential connection. Which would mean that if the karmic connection was broken or lost the creatures he helped (including Jake himself) wouldn't revert back, experience backlash, or lose anything. Those that he has helped feel gratitude towards Jake for what he did so the connection would remain, but it wouldn't be detrimental to them to break the connection. Jake's blood family and people like Villy have inherent karmic connections. The connection being broken would probably cause significant backlash to those involved. I would also say that the karmic connections the Primordials have with TFS are also inherent. Miranda probably has an inherent connection with Jake because she essentially manages Jake's kingdom. If that connection was severed she would experience significant backlash in her profession because she would no longer have any kind of leadership role for a bit, and it would be very difficult for her to reach the level of managing she currently has. However, I would say that a lot of the multiverse benefits significantly from having a karmic connection to Jake. Losing the connection may or may not cause a backlash, but it would definitely slow their progress in advancing. These are one sided karmic links. Jake wouldn't feel anything significant, while they would. Not unless a large amount of people lost their connection at once. Jake would probably feel some backlash from that.

Dragon

It’s more equal then Jake probably thinks but I don’t think it would be in his favor. A c grade just wouldn’t be able to get a lot of the things villy has given

Donald Duck

But any chosen in any of the primordial factions could have gotten the same thing, it’s not like villy offers items or things that the other primordials can’t, but Jake is truly special in how much of a boost he gave to villy

Shandlar

At A I imagine it will have evolved above a Harbringer after a few thousand years of using Origin Energy inside this new profession. What comes above Harbringer though after the omen has arrived? Hmm. Primarch of Primeval Origin? Is that a real word or is it word made up by 40k itself? Perhaps a low noble rank bearer title instead? Pursuivant? Armiger? Rather than a messenger of coming Origins, an aspiring and noble wielder of Origins.

Rob Lyon

I definitely hope we get a Monday and Tuesday chapter even if it just finishes off his profession and gives us a conversation with Villy that would be fine I can wait till January for the class evolution I really want to hear what Villy has to say

ABTelford

Word is he’s going to post one more chapter Monday or Tuesday.

Rob Lyon

I would definitely like to see Jake have his own chosen if the story goes that full and I think Villy would suggest He take one for the benefits it provides to a god although check sort of already gets similar benefits from his creations just not to the same degree. That will definitely be a fun conversation sometime in the future

Matthew Ruiz

Tftc I can’t wait for the audio book to come out. I believe I’ve gone through the whole series about 5 times by now. I’m glad my work lets me keep one AirPod in so I can listen to this series nearly 24/7. This series has seriously kept me sane over the years I seriously appreciate all that you do and I’m def buying those hardcovers.

Zebra Proteus

God dammit Zog! Great chapter and I absolutely love the series, but god dammit! You said no major hangers before the break!

DeAndrea H

I love the idea of Jake being so ridiculous that Villy gets woozy for a second from the rapid record drain. 😂

Azayrian105

That Spirit of Man is probably going absolutely crazy right now. That is what I think is happening.

Saitama Solos Supremacies

Maybe the level ups come from the logic behind the decision to choose the profession itself? Forced to pick between two incredible professions, he chose the one that benefitted his friend/patron. That seems like a good Heretic-Chosen thing to do

Rob Lyon

I know a few other authors I think have that same skill

john

Ree!?

KipBR

Free levels for some reason?

Gardor

You're associating inherent with like, "risks if its removed", when what it means is a fundamental fact of its existence. Sandy the space worm wouldnt exist without Jake, they have a connection because of how he's impacted Sandy's Path. That connection inherently creates a karmic connection. Saying "Jake completely altered the existence of this person by using his Jake Juice, creating the foundation for everything they do in the future, but they dont have a karmic connection" is...im gonna censor myself and say "silly". What Jake did inherently created a karmic connection, cuz thats just sorta definitionally what a karmic connection is. Especially since Jake just accidentally created a karmic connection with every human in the multiverse, saying he doesnt have an inherent karmic connection with this beings he's been formative in creating doesnt make sense.

DeAndrea H

I’m glad Jake finally picked. I was afraid we were going to get cliffed again without a choice being made. I gotta wonder if all those dings have anything to do with Oras and the eye thing that Jake pushed a shit ton of Jake Juice into when he needed rescue in the void. Ora’s kept that orb and indicated that a plan was in motion. It’s been implied that Oras has always liked Jake bc Oras sees time non-sequentially and implied Jake would help him evolve somehow. Maybe Jake is being rewarded for his unintentional help? Evolving a void god has to be HUGE!

Fyrtue

Anybody else thinks it's possible he upgraded his blessing? Not like before where it boosted an extra stat but maybe reach some level higher than the true blessing?

ABTelford

Hm…what if him choosing that option suddenly boosted the records of everyone in the order and on earth, causing mass level ups for those people and thus him? That’d be weird. So, very Jake. 😉

Admiral Dakbar

This might be one of the worst cliffs I’ve experienced on the Patreon. Christmas ruined

tigerfishie

Yknow, I was initially like “hm, I don’t see how this is going to require another chapter next week” until THAT. Goddamnit.

ABTelford

Nope, he promised one more chapter to give us all a merry Christmas. Bless your kind heart, Zogarth!

DeAndrea H

Man, that would set off a ripple. As far as the multiverse is concerned True Blessing is as blessed as it gets. Everyone would want to know about this new status and how it was possible. Eversmile would basically start stalking Jake

ABTelford

Ooo! That would be awesome!! Especially since Jake kinda forgot about the Oras orb in his reflections.

Justus Saucedo

You said it! Cliffhangers are the worst.

Kenneth Welever

God's have gained levels just from watching him work. Remember when artemis gained levels plural just for watching the warpsnatcher ritual? Or was that duskleaf and vesperia's ritual?

Lemonsqueezy

Did he say so on Discord? Because on the post about the vacation he just said that he might give the Hunter tier one or two more before the holiday.

ABTelford

Ree! Ree Ree. 🙂‍↕️

Lemonsqueezy

I think the blessings are determined purely by the god that gives them. However, we have to consider the fuckery that Jake's bloodline causes.

ABTelford

Oh! Fun speculation! Now you got me wondering…🧐

Lemonsqueezy

I am thinking it might be upgrades to some of his skills. Whether that is his legacy skills or the passive alchemy skills like brew potion.

Kenneth Welever

Seriously Alex. Emotional damage! I didn't even have the lienency to become a patron to gain more chapters then. As I'd already done so the last hanging vacation.

Saitama Solos Supremacies

I don’t remember there being dings for skill upgrades, just notification windows. I could be wrong though!

Daniel Pangione

Yes, from Zog: Yes, there will be one more chapter, either Monday or maybe over the weekend. Please let all the people who will definitely ask on Patreon know.

Lemonsqueezy

Ooh, another great theory. To me it is upgrades to legacy or passive alchemy skills (like brew potion). Seen a comment saying Villy could have gotten levels. Something with Spirit of Man could be a good theory. Maybe some sort of feedback loop. Where in Jake chooses the profession, this sends a ripple of experience to everyone and feeds back to Jake giving him levels and keeps bouncing back and forth until it dissipates (diminishing returns).

Daniel Pangione

From Zog: Yes, there will be one more chapter, either Monday or maybe over the weekend. Please let all the people who will definitely ask on Patreon know.

Daniel Pangione

From Zog: Yes, there will be one more chapter, either Monday or maybe over the weekend. Please let all the people who will definitely ask on Patreon know.

Lemonsqueezy

I am thinking we are going to get at least a Monday chapter to provide less of a cliff-hanger. Or maybe Zog will be a real ass and just leave us here until January. There is not character limit on a post so that case is entirely possible. This is a rather long chapter though.

Lemonsqueezy

Nice theory. Maybe Jake just unlocked a new legacy skill. I will add that to the others I have read so far.

Daniel Pangione

DING has only been used for race, class or profession levels, as far as I know.

Lemonsqueezy

I am thinking skill upgrades rather than levels.

Lemonsqueezy

I think this one surpasses it only because of how long we have been waiting for the B-Grade evolution. This will set forth what the rest of B-Grade will be. The Valdemar fight was painful, but didn't have the same impact in the story that this evolution will have. Also, we all want to know what these damn "Dings" are about.

Rob Lyon

As far as I know the term Primarch was invented for 40K

Lemonsqueezy

Zog did hint that he is taking this story all the way to god tier. Said hopefully in 5 years but most definitely not going to be in that amount of time.

Lemonsqueezy

Oh i completely forgot that that happened. Jake probably just absolutely obliterated Villy's blessing count with this upgrade.

DeAndrea H

I love that Jake let his friendship with Villy influence his choice. Ell’Hakan would never! Perception might be the best stat but it has nothing on the Power of Friendship!

Cash Collins

Could the universe have just opened up and villy is coming to talk himself?

Lemonsqueezy

A-Grade will definitely be when Jake starts to distance himself from Villy. I think it is one of the requirement of Godhood to become your own person and remove the shackles of the god that blessed them. This would require Jake to replace all of his skills that have "Legacy of the Malefic Viper" to something unique to Jake. I expect them to be slowly be converted over during A and S grade and be all changed when he reaches Godhood. Or Zog could just have them all changed at once when Jake becomes a god.

Bentao

Well it might be because Jake gets levels from Villy hunting down gods of unknown faction;D

Bi Dailey

Typo "... perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is yet aware of." "... unaware of."

Lemonsqueezy

What I am saying is that inherent karmic connections are unbreakable or at least shouldn't be broken without causing significant issues. Even if the karmic connection with Sandy was broken, Sandy would still be a space worm. Meaning that the karmic connection isn't permanent or essential. Maybe I am wrong, it is just how I see the difference between inherent and non-inherent karmic connections. Honestly, it is just a way to explain the sentence. If it is actually a typo then that negates my entire argument.

Bentao

And regarding cliffhanger… Only one thing come to my mind the meme: ‚THOSE BASTARDS LIED TO ME’ ;D

Stephen

I am so glad there will be another chapter. Cause if that was it till the new year I would be rioting.

Tercius

The Dings triggern 😂

Bentao

New chapter before NYE? When?!

Deborah

No. It'd become a double negative.

Lemonsqueezy

As many have said. I think this is hinting toward Jake starting to convert his Malefic skills to Primal skills. Essentially becoming his own being. As the title suggests, Jake is The Primal Hunter. Which I am assuming will become his moniker, like how Villy is known as The Malefic Viper. I think doing so will be a requirement for Jake to reach God tier. He needs to remove the shackles of being known as the Chosen of the Malefic Viper. Growing up and setting out into the multiverse on his own.

Lemonsqueezy

The "Chosen" title is automatically lost once they reach godhood. So by that point Jake will probably have to change all of his Legacy skills to something unique and bearing the title of Primal or Primeval and Jake officially having the moniker of The Primal Hunter.

Lemonsqueezy

I had a theory that Jake might actually become the replacement or heir to the System itself, and maybe that is what happened to TFS. Maybe TFS/The System designated Jake as their Chosen to groom him into being their replacement. You could go even further, maybe the System chooses someone in each era as their chosen, and in the end that person joins/replaces them as the new system. This would explain why the system slightly changes how it does things during each integration.

Josie

No way... Spirit of Man provides extra experience for profession related activities.. are all these subsequent dings the effect of leveling up to his new OP B grade profession??

Sean

It isn’t where his path started that I am talking about. It is the actual word origin. It is referred to as Jake’s origin energy. So if his origin energy is primeval and you put the word Malefic in front of it then it sounds like the origin of his energy went from the primeval source to a Malefic source aka his Jake juice is coming from Villy and not the primeval source.

Jake Schmitz

Zog........ you suck! Jkjk but seriously, dangling off this cliff? Great chapter, great story, great characters, great everything! I can't wait for what's coming!

Bi Dailey

There isn't even a single negative. It's not "...not yet aware of.", it's "... that which the Primordial himself is yet aware of."

ChRiAn

Read the AN in 1272

Matteo Corazza

5 cent theory, the Malefic Viper skills changed name as Villy start to understand the origin of the skills in his legacy thanks to Jake's new class. Not only Jake but everyone in the Order with that skills is receiving all the notifications like him.

Kytayn K.

Hi Zogarth, I'm happy you decided to write today's chapter anyway. You're right, this is much milder than the "and now for the profession..." wait we would have had. Still, you got us. I'm eager to read what happens next, as usual. Good stuff.

Lemonsqueezy

Another great theory to the dings. Maybe all of Jake's "Legacy of the Malefic Viper" skills changed to say "Primeval" or "of the Primal Hunter". I think I like this one more than even my own or the several others I have read.

Josie

Ha. Jake says options 4&5 are equal, but only 1 deepens this bromance with best buddy Villy and gives Perception. No contest! And honestly? Uncovering ancient mysteries and secrets is way more fun than primarily focusing on creating new variants. No wonder why Oras likes Jake. Anyway, hyped for B grade 🎉

Donald Duck

Yeah and imagine how much villy got since Jake is his chosen and also Jake using his juice to see origins of villys abilities, and also meeting the first sage which lets villy essentially meet his old teacher and remember him and talk with jake about him.

Mr.Spooks

Good cliff fr fr we got the class, all I could’ve asked for

Lemonsqueezy

"yet unaware of" would suggest that Villy is aware of it now and hasn't become unaware of it. How it is worded now suggests that Villy is currently unaware and hasn't become aware. That wording is weird in English. Pretty much your way stats that Villy has knowledge and would later lose that knowledge. The more I think about it the more the whole sentence feels off. Some suggestions: 1 - "... perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is unaware of." 2 - "... perhaps even find that which the Primordial himself is not yet aware of."

Josie

If Villy can go beyond concepts and corrupt the very laws of the system with his power (as seen in Yip fight), what the heck will god-Jake be able to do?

Lemonsqueezy

There is a ding for skill upgrades as well. There is pretty much a ding any time the system sends a message. Like a phone notification.

Johnny

No it wouldn’t. Yet unaware= still unaware. Doesn’t make sense otherwise

Josie

When Villy gets back online and asks Jake "What did you do now?!" It would be great if instead of a reasoned explanation Jake just defends his choice with "it offered Perception 🤗"

Bi Dailey

Yeah, your option #2 is probably best. I think the cause of the weirdness is that the phrase "is yet " is essentially a contraction of either the phrase "is yet to be" or "is as of yet". One refers to the present and the other referred to the future.

Dan

Pleeeease bless your unworthy readers with at least a Monday chapter! If we have to wait to know what just happened, I get it, but DAMN that's a mean cliff after we already saw his race evolution bug out

Lemonsqueezy

Monarch denotes a leader or ruler. Harbinger is an announcer or signaling of something/someone. Harbinger, in this case, signifies that Jake is the creator, bringer or the first (forerunner) of Primeval Origins. A good upgrade word might be Innovator, Catalyst, Incarnation, Pioneer, Architect/Engineer, or maybe Embodiment.

Jack

I doubt that the universe would jump from C-Grades to God's in such a short time my guess is that the universe will open up in proportion to the strength of the inhabitants of the new universe

Lemonsqueezy

Someone stated that Zog confirmed that he will drop another chapter Monday or maybe even this weekend.

Lemonsqueezy

Yeah it was stated awhile ago that the heretic-chosen thing made it where they are seen as friends/equals and are pretty much permanently bonded until Jake reaches godhood.

Samuel Jones

I'm thinking the endgame for the of the Malefic Viper skills is a non-trancendent version of Malefic Transmutation

Corey bess

Yea i agree. To add to that. Notice how if they didnt like the story tho that those same people complaining about cliffhangers wouldnt be here week to week if they really felt any ire about it. They love it. Theyre just in a rush to keep reading. Thats why i think instead of cliff hangers zogarth has created a higher tier variant of the skill called [Zogarths Cliff BANGER! (UNIQUE)] Some writers like to be thorough and detailed in their chapters leaving a sense of fulfillment and wonder, only to be eclipsed by later chapters. Others like to give no answers and leave everything vague, up to interpretation, and leave their readers flabberghasted and in vehement discussion to figure out the finer details of the mythos themselves. You have decided to walk a paradoxical path that embraces neither sentiment, but meets instead somewhere in the middle. By ending chapters on allusions to those details to be solidified later, and based on feedback from your readers, only giving them JUST enough to leave them drooling for more. Grants a noticeable passive boost to viewer engagement and passive income based on perception and wisdom. Your stories stand at the apex of mythology, surpassed only by the level of frustration and excitement by your following. May your prose be endless, and your desire for schadenfreude insatiable.

Samuel Jones

While not as common, leaving out the 'not' is perfectly acceptable, although the implication of this usage, especially coming from a system description, is quite interesting if intentional

SmokeJam

Of the primal hunter wouldn't make sense. Those are Villies legacy skills, not Jakes. He will create his own legacy, or rather has already started, and those are the "of the primal hunter" skills like his Moment skill. Villy with his bloodline and transcendence understanding and deepening his skills more due to being able to see more concepts through Jake does sound insane enough to actually track.

SmokeJam

He said maybe. I don't believe it before I see it, this cliff would be very on brand and actually ok for 2 weeks.

SmokeJam

Yet aware of is the correct grammar. Buy yourself a dictionary folks, especially if you are American. We different language speakers had to actually learn the grammar first. Example which makes it clear: "We have not seen the next chapter yet." -> "we have yet to see the next chapter." Both mean exactly the same. It is allowed to conjugate and reposition the verb as long as the implied tense is the same and without it changing meaning if it fits the sentence structure better, which leads to the "not" being dropped as an implied yet-future automatically means it is the opposite in the presence. Villy is not yet aware of everything his affinity encompasses. -> of everything his malefic affinity encompasses, Villy is yet aware [what Jake can uncover in the future]. "Not-verb-half sentence-yet" is focused on the (negative) present time, "yet-verb" is focused on the future (with an expected change) usually. I will admit the sentence is a bit rougher and older in language and changing it into "yet aware of" would smooth it out, but it is a perfectly correct one.

Fyrtue

Skill upgrades and even feats have never been preface by dings though.

Bi Dailey

But it isn't negative in the present tense, and it's perfectly reasonable for different people to see the word being used more as a future negative or a present positive. Thus you've got people disagreeing whether the phrase is a present tense typo or a perfectly fine future tense (as well as disagreeing about whether or not the sentence would sound better in the present tense).

Samuel Jones

If you're so salty you don't get immediate satisfaction, go become a damn book reader; it'll also be cheaper for you as well, considering you're so concerned with efficiency.

NicN

Tftc

Arkenian

I had a funny thought that jake managed to get so tied to the viper hes suddenly getting villy's prayer feed.

Stephen

It would be, but damn. This is a really, really big cliff.

Josie

Heh. Thinking back to all the comments regarding cliffs over the past several episodes I think many of us would have the profession "Reader of Perennial Consumption" Endless starvation for the next chapter. And it pairs dynamically with a certain Malefic Author

SmokeJam

A totally normal and uneventful evolution - title of jakes biography.

Dalton Willis

CLIFFHANGER AHHHHH FUCKIN SHIT SHIT SHIT :(

Ander Barbot

Heres my 3 cents. 1) this is an extremely valid discussion, and I could definitely be wrong 2) yet is an anticipatory structure. It anticipates absence, and will only work with incomplete states 3) "yet to" is sparking confusing. 'To' futurisizes a verb, creating an incomplete state. Exa: To see != seeing, to be != being) "not yet" has a similar effect. "Not" applies through/over the yet, making the following state incomplete. Exa: not yet see = not seeing, not yet aware = unaware "He is yet aware" = still aware. incorrect. "He is yet unaware" and "he is yet to be aware of" = still unaware. Correct

Admiral Dakbar

He said on the discord page we will get one more chapter either through the weekend or Monday thankfully

Admiral Dakbar

He mentioned on discord we will get one more chapter before the Christmas break

ChickeWin

Can’t wait for Jake and Villy to crack open a cold one and discuss what the fuck just happened

Dan

That's the best news I could've heard. Thank you! I guess I should tune into the discord more often lol

jobe matula

damn it! I was totally coming to the comments to bich about how boring the chapter was then... the last two paragraphs happened lol.🤣

Kt-x

Damn it! Another cliffhanger!!! Arghhhh!! 😂 I hope Villy is getting levels or something like that! And as a chosen Jake's getting a bite of the pie! 🥧😁

Takoda Heitz

With the Exalted Prima related events around the corner if we end up seeing anymore Jake clones or simulated Jake’s then it would be cool af to see what primordial usurper Jake would have looked like.

Indevan Jones

Is the dings levels, or notifications of things dying? Also with the weird thing happening related to Villy, is Jake seeing whatever Eversmile is doing and that he might be there? Or is it the weird Unity god faction gonna do another jakenapping attempt?

Marter

This Christmas break is going to kill me

Kaladin

First off, Void Lollipop > Puzzle Box. Second, pretty sure Jake has helped Villy more than he helped Jake. Jake got him out of his divine domain and depression for the first time since the first? Era, he got Villy at least one level as a primordial Godking, and he's reconnected Villy with the first sage. I do think he'll eventually resurrect Villy's family. I know Jake just has his own unique perspective.

Collateral Ink

While I will agree that Jake has helped Villy far more than he realizes, I do not believe he is even close to "out" of his depression. Based on what we have seen from the First Sage and how his bloodline operates, the Viper doesn't even experience time and memory remotely similar to anyone else anymore. His "memories" are as real and present to him at all times. He is essentially living his memories constantly, not recalling them. Which means he is constantly experiencing the deaths of his family.

DirePants

Wow… this whole chapter went how I expected it to go. Except the multiple dings… damnit I was planning on taking a break but I have to know!

Quinn

All of his of the Malefic skills changed. That’s my bet

Kaladin

I know Jake sees himself as equal but he's still a mortal (for now) and a pauper and a billionaire going out for lunch who pays the bill although the same action isn't equal in weight of accomplishment. Villy saving a mortals live requires little effort, a mortal giving a godking a level or a friend is 'impossible'. I thoroughly believe the scales are in Jakes favor and Villy would agree more for nebulous gains including novelty that Jake wouldn't see as worthy of anything.

NSaaby

He will be able to find the sorce of systen fuckery

Corey bess

Zogarth i just read your authors note to respond to assholes in the comments. Ive never laughed so hard in my life. I really hope you see this and even tho this lowly one doesnt matter much to your pocket book i just wanna say...hell yea. You fucking rule. Fucking legend. Edit: and for the record i thought nevermore was fucking awesome. I dont know why people complained. Infact its shocking to me to learn people had an issue with it. As it was one of my favorite parts of the series. So much happened and seeing people act like it didnt is wild. Sorry i know this comment is out of place in this chapter release but i didnt know where else to show support about that topic after seeing it. Not that you needed it but still.

Chelsa Roberts

Or it was forcibly changed by his blood line to the other one or the system.

Corey bess

It was the seventh era. Also primordial is a title given to the people who made it to godhood in the first universe. Not necessarily a measurement of power other than that everyone who has that title does happen to be top tier. But thats because theyre old as fuck. They been in this game since the game was a thing. Villy is somewhere in or past the empyrean steps many thousands of times over by his own admission. Also he hasnt really connected villy to the first sage just relayed a message which ill grant is a gift im sure he appreciates. Also idk about that. Sure jake has for sure helped villy. But the amount of times jake would be dead without villys involvement in the story is crazy. Not counting all the legacy skills absurd amounts of ingredients and everything else jake has gotten from him or being associated with him. Hes also helped protect earth by association and by sending people from the order to help. He got snappy to help sandy helped jake locate a true dragon that wasnt rife with political bs. He fixed jakes soul when jake fucked up. Like everythinf jake has done until recently that helped villy helped villy by jake just being jake. In fact this chapter may have been one of the first times ive seen jake directly help villy by thinking of him during this skill selection. Mostly because what exactly is jake suppose to do for villy at his current level? Not saying jake doesnt do right by his best buddy snake god. I think jake largely really does treat villy as a friend. Including calling him out on his bullshit. But if your friend is the richest most influential person on the planet whos lived since the dawn of the known multiverse what exactly are you suppose to do to help him out? Also tbf we dont know what the prize in the puzzlebox is. It could be something profoundly awesome! I get the feeling it is since it requires you to beat 10000 levels of increasing difficulty. We dont really know how far jake is since last we heard it was around 289 or something? but id guess hes probably close to 1000 by now. Still a LONG way to go. But i agree the void lollipop is dope as hell and interactions with oras might be another of my favorite things about the series.

Corey bess

It was from an old authors note he posted after nevermore was wrapping up. A bunch of young masters in the comments were being a bag of dicks and zogarth let them know whats up. Based as hell. It made me tear up from sheer BDE

Corey bess

I just loved it because it was the moment i realized that i would totally have a beer with zogarth in real life. Hes a real bro. Its great to both enjoy a creators work and realize you like them as people too.

Brian

Anyone whom Jake has helped evolve in the past just got unexpected evolutions! Ding! Ding! Ding!

C. Adkins

I love that Zog thinks of us on Patreon AND knows there will be hundreds of comments asking the same thing. He’s a true g

C. Adkins

EXCUSE ME! Jake’s insane perception stat allowed him to PERCEIVE the correct choice. And that choice was the Power of Friendship. It’s Very different.

David

This cliff hanger was diabolical lol

Chelsa Roberts

What if the dings leads them into being system sworn Brothers.

Doorda

Levels

Ra

Well, it's just Zogarth hiding underneath the system fuckery. Just stuff he finds hard to explain/care about/too lazy to come up with an explanation for. Therefore, I don't think that's going away. I don't blame Zog one bit for that though.

Doorda

Just a thought but why doesn't the Primeval Alchemist of Malefic Origins have intelligence as a stat as that is a key part of villys path?

Abhishek

4 levels for choosing a profession? Interesting. Good cliff! I’m really exited for the class upgrade.

Peter

How do we get the discord link?

Mat

That version would be weak either due to Villy of that reality being way weaker resulting in him being slain or the Jake being opportunistic idiot who jumped ships first sight or trouble. Either way weak

Takoda Heitz

Jeez just said I wanted too see it

John R

Total ass… without a doubt…

JBMIV

I hope that, at some point, Jake will use his Origin energy to bring back Villy’s wife and kid. That would be next level.

Gman

When Jake did the primeval origins, he didnt get the full experience. Only for doing parts that would be considered part of alchemy arts. So all the Jake juice stuff was unused experience and now that he was the new profession. He cashed it all in

Jeryd Greer

Has to be from his understanding of primeval origin energy

Deborah

One is his blessing upgrade. One his skill. One his unique skill upgrade One related to the drop of blood absorbed.

Corey bess

Man thats true. I never thought about it like that. Like i knew he had perfect memory but youre right he does kind of portray it as working that way doesnt he. At the same time though there has to be some level of oversaturation after he accumulates dozens of eras of memories to layer over that(albeit in his divine realm presumably trying to bring them back). And willpower is a hell of a stat. But thats true. Im actually really interested to see jake help villy in that situation fr. Im really interested in villys backstory.

Thomas Mccullagh

Love the series! I think he got levels from his comprehension, or upgrades. But Villy is a planner, patient and devious and he seduces women etc to get his way. I bettttt wayyy down the road there is a huge falling out and villy and Jake have a massive multiverse battle

Corey bess

Shhhhhhh. Cuz jake takes what he wants and leaves the rest behind. His bloodline threatened the systems family til it replaced it with perception didnt you see the error messages? Lol

Corey bess

Who said its just 4?

Doorda

See I would argue that intelligence is more important to alchemy than toughness. Vitality is important for resistance to poison but what benefit does toughness have over int

Corey bess

No no youre right maybe even. But jake isnt a smart boi. He simple man. Also hes gonna need all the toughness he can get so he survives those "archery lessons" (i know minaga told us thats not a thing but im jk)

Corey bess

I think really tho if youre talking about the stat bonusses hes DANGEROUSLY low on toughness comparitively

Corey bess

So while youre completely right...ill take it.

Doorda

Simple but not stupid. His formations require a lot of forethought. This is his profession so unless he's exploding potions on himself I think int is more important

Corey bess

But he does explode potions on himself. He got his lodge reinforced for that reason

Corey bess

It was heavily implied if he didnt he would create an actual disaster in haven

Corey bess

Lol jake is also a reckless boi too

Doorda

Actually his bloodline should just convince the system to give him both

Corey bess

Is basically what it did for the spirit of man stuff lol i agree.

Corey bess

Like so many of jakes upgrades this time are of such a quantitative and qualitative improvement. Im so fucking excited to see the jump. And whats more theres a ridiculous amount of implied power that we havent fathomed. Like lets assume those spirit of man things upgrade or improve at least like every other aspect of the system. In which case he just got near 2000 of them that will all improve as he improves. And he gets them all. Im sure at least some of those help address his low intellect. Ingenuity or creativity of man feels like it would be one of them. Surely of the many he had available one of them helps with it.

Mat

Base on C-grade evolution Ding- Bond Change Ding - Blessing Change Ding - Skill Upgrade Ding - New Skill Offer

DeAndrea H

I was re-reading Nevermore and realized that the Bound God absorbed the Perennial Arcane Marble. So switching his profession to Primeval, he may be getting records from Nevermore, Oras, Sylphie, Vesperia, Sandy, Jasper, and the Demon Prince all at once?

DeAndrea H

I desperately want that arc. That and the story behind Duskleaf’s real name (Shattered Dusk Emperor)

Matthew Armentrout

That’s a cliffhangers. But anyone else fill like all Jacks malefic viper skills are going to become origin of the malefic viper skills or that the connection to Villy will result in Villy receiving some of the “Jack juice”

Death56

He just mutated all his viper skilss

Doorda

Add your discord to patreon and it does it automatically

Random58

Now that he finally has a profession tied to his primeval origin energy, does this mean he will gain levels from his creations? Like if Vesperia does something significant maybe he will level up based off of that.

Bjarne Hansen

Totally agree on this one ... totally ...

ZanSanCho

Thank you and fuck you Zog. I bought up and caught up only to get a week long cockblock of a cliffhanger. Villy dammit.

Corey bess

I found it earlier and now i cant find it i wanted to screen shot it and look at it when i need to laugh. How did it vanish ugh.

Nick

I think the profession name is wrong. Explicitly Primeval Origins. Not Malefic Origins. So should be Malefic Alchemist of Primeval Origins.

Endern

That's my current working theory too. I always found it odd that Vesperia's creation, which leveled even gods, only resulted in a few levels for Jake. This chapter also had a focus on professions and experience gain.

taylor ritchie

No he has zero ties to them after creation

Kota

Don't think so. Part of this path is that Jake, as an alchemist, explores and relies upon the Viper's origins - the Malefic Origins. This wording stresses that this class connects Jake's Harbinger abilities and his alchemy to the Viper much more closely.

Bryant G

Jake’s origin in alchemy is the Malfic viper. He wants to continue being an alchemists and this transitions his alchemy away from malefic origin towards his own power.

Ramadasa Butler

I think the 9 skills may merge after they reach either Sacred merging into Devine, or Devine becoming a whole other new level after Devine.

Damascus

I think that since they were telepathically linked those were the Vipers dings. 4 levels for Jake evolving to B grade without forsaking his patron.

Thenais

Wait … they read all the stats in the audio book ? In s slow voice for 10 min ? + every skill ? 😭

Corey S

I knew as soon as we saw this option that he would take it lol. I don’t think it was truly as close as it seemed with Jake mumbling about the pros and cons

ZanSanCho

Don't do that to me 😭😭

Sean

The dings are probably all of the new origins skills he's getting

Fdrugc

You misunderstand how much Villy values his friendship with Jake

Bookreader97

I think Jake choosing that profession counted as something a chosen heretic would do and that’s why he’s getting all the levels

Bookreader97

Villy is going to be the last thing Jake hunts for sure. I think his whole friend group will replace the primordials. Ruinmaden will take Val’s spot. Casper will take the blightfather. Sword saint with aon clock, possibly William with eversmile, silfi with the elemental one, Jacob with holy mother, and the healing bloodline guy with the dao lord, Arnold will become a void god possibly replacing oras, there’s more but I can’t think of them

C. Adkins

I agree with Fdrugc. IF Jake and Villy fight, it’ll be linked to Villy needing to die to be with his wife and kid (like they discover true afterlife). Where Villy wants to die, wants his friend to do it, and actually fights Jake to make sure Jake gets those juicy records.

definitelynotbrjenness

important and totally on topic questions: did hawk tuah go false god mode in his fight with valdemar? if jake never existed and Carmen was exactly as strong and accomplished as she is, would valdemar use her name?

definitelynotbrjenness

favorite scenes i can think of at the moment: 1. jake announced as winner at nevermore 2. jakes's walk through haven after killing hawk tuah 3. molt

Thomas Mccullagh

I don’t tho, I think it’s genuine buttttt zogarth has been dropping hints of his ability to plan scheme and play the part. I love villy and think he’s one of the best characters in the series and he’s amazing - however it’s that one thing in the back of the mind. Maybe 1-3% chance would be an epic plot twist

Kimesh

No and yes

Corey bess

I know that seems like it is the likely outcome but i really hope not. I do want to see them fight but i really like jake and villy being friends. I would rather explore a future where jake becomes strong enough to help the snake god and revive his wife and child. Its very possible he goes the other way but i hope not. It makes me kind of depressed to think about seeing their relationship turn to an one of enemies. Infact i think yip of yore was clossr than he thinks to what villys goal is he said he was waiting for jake. But what if he is the reason jake happened. Think about his profession name. Primeval alchemist of 'malefic origins' I think villy planned ALL of this. I think hes been working on a way to bring back his wife and kid for a very long time and that in his divine realm hes been trying to interfere with or use the system itself to get what he wants. But realizing he couldnt maybe he found a way to LATER get what he wants in order to do it. This could be consuming jake like yip or it could be that since HE couldnt do it he found a way to create someone that could. And what better way than with the integration of a new universe. When jake learns all of this they may be forced into a temporary state of conflict but im hoping thats when jake realizes that villy doesnt need to consume him to bring back his family. But that he can just do it. Idk im not saying its not possible but it would just feel really unenjoyable to watch one of my favorite relationships in the series go that way. I do actually agree with your sentiment that jakes friends will all rise to primordial levels. I dont know if i think theyll replace them or not tho. Again this whole take is just very antagonistic and also the last and final reason i dont think this will happen is a comment by zog himself on a podcast interview. He says all the other stories he read that he was inspired by always had calamities and disasters waiting in the wings or some terrible thing to happen. And he said he doesnt want this he wants a chill lighthearted story. And infact states that was one difficulty or challenge when making everything in that he needed to make jake someone who wanted to get stronger but not because there was some grand catastrophe to thwart or something. To me villy turning into the big bad and all the primordials turning into enemies very much falls into that realm. So i just dont see it. Hopefully not anyways. Not that its not a clever and cool concept. Ultimately tho it just feels wrong to havs

Corey bess

Sorry for all the typos my keys are sticking

Corey bess

I think the recent reveal of villy tricking the woman was a red herring to make us consider a world where villy is the enemy as readers more than an actual indicator that he is. I also dont think villy wants to lie to jake. Maybe about dumb petty shit but not about important stuff. Also theres the line about how now that jake has learned from the first sage they are kind of brother disciples. When he refers to master to jake he implies THEIR master. And he digs at yip for betraying his friend. I just dont see it. But if im wrong then make sure to come back and tell me you told me so.

Josie

1. molt 💚 2. Jake v Valdemar 3. Oras manifests from the freaking lollipop

Josie

Oh the return of Doomfoot really made me laugh. Idk where that would rank tho

Azayrian105

You know I am even more excited for B-Grade Nevermore. Wonder what will happen this time around.

Josie

It was when Jake fought a prima guardian in front of Cheeto's lackeys. It wasn't a climactic moment like the others, Jake just got bored of the prima fights and wanted to make it more interesting while confusing the enemy I also really liked when Jake first met Scarlett and he basically antagonized her into getting a blessing while Carmen freaked out in the background thinking they were all going to die lol What's the songbird moment?

definitelynotbrjenness

you sure do like the sound of your own voice. I am a songbird. rainbowfeather sovereign

Josie

And people will always complain about cliffhangers, but I loved the anticipation when a chapter ended with Jake first uttering the words "Event Horizon" great moment imo

definitelynotbrjenness

I liked that one too, mostly because it had been predicted before hand and showed the malefic zogmeister that we know all his tricks.

Chance Haggerty

Yes, I need to know what snappy means when he said duskleaf is weak yet one of the deadliest people in the multiverse

Chance Haggerty

Not with Jake his mana is insane and so is his regen

Chance Haggerty

He has exploded himself more then once remember everyone says that he just smashes his face into the wall until he makes his own door and brute forces whatever he is trying to make work lol

Bob Fight

Bru you see the release date for book 15 jan1 2200 😭 zog is apparently at least e grade

definitelynotbrjenness

I want to see the eye grow into a minion that annoys oras and he gives it back to jake

definitelynotbrjenness

the first perpetual boosting machine...jake gets skill boosts them which upgrades skill which boosts them more which upgrades skill...never mind squeezing already thought of that. dammit. I felt soooo smart for five seconds.

definitelynotbrjenness

you know how when you're waiting for the new chapter and you find an ABtellford post from the previous day to reply to, it will make his phone beep causing him to jump over the couch to grab his phone in order to read what he thinks is a new chapter? we need to figure out what makes zog's phone beep to remind him he promised us 10 chapters this weekend.

Jordan Rogers

I’m hoping for at least ten times the levels… and probably a whole new creation arc, segment were his access of origin energy allows him to make the nevermore goddesses explore in ecstasy and Artemis gets all jealous… and minaga goes well he literally cheats at everything did you expect better? And gundrun has to hog tie valdamar from spending a thousand years watching the nevermore run cause they got bigger issues with the hidden faction of the totally not a “necromancer god” who is zombie-fying the gods they’ve captured. The king gets stuck in stuff easy for everyone else and complains of unfairness from another unique life form being biased against him. And sylphie just runs around yelling REE! A lot.

Peako

Just taking a wild guess but, with the Four dings perhaps it’s a level gained for each of his prior experiments? Sylphie, Sandy, Vesperia, and Jasper. Or it’ll have to do with levels or skill changes. From what I know, the dings usually refer to any system notifications, though we usually just see them referring to levels. Tyftc.

Fyrtue

4 levels for a primordial is a massive thing though. Just having a chosen reach B grade wouldn't really cut it.

Jip

“Ill leave a cliff, but not too big of a cliff” YOU LYING SON OF A ZOGMOM. Got me itching like an addict over here. Did jake fuck over his connection with villy? Did he lose some aspects of skills now that his profession isnt that of a heretic-chosen, even if he is still technically one? Did he get some utter bullshit like he usually does? We dont know! We wont know for weeks! Anyways…😂 Happy holidays Zog, thanks for another year of fantastic writing and entertainment. I and everyone here appreciate you immensely (even when you edge us a little bit). Enjoy your break. I’m excited to see what another year brings!

Jason Connors

Maybe its his legacy skills upgrading since all of them said C-grade version

Mat

Killing Yip did not even give a single level

Joseph Farris

Isn’t villys highest stat wisdom. Everytime he or someone else mentions a stat of his it’s wisdom.

Doorda

Yes his highest stat is wisdom... But he's also a pretty smart snaky boy

Admiral Dakbar

We are getting one more chapter before the break

Mark

DING! You've gained the title Dark Lord of the Snek.

Dave

Lol

DefinitelyNotMinaga

it could just be the result of Jake doing a super safe test run of a certain dungeon masterpiece in progress! Probably not but who knows!? i can only hope v.v at least THIS me can hope.

DefinitelyNotMinaga

meh it could be worse, ill be around chillin idk about you

DefinitelyNotMinaga

i am NOT gonna comment on your enthusiasm. As seeing all i work hard towards being utterly broken by a ridiculous bloodline on the regular now, i hope you slip on a banana peel.

DefinitelyNotMinaga

well screw you too.... not even a participation ribbon for me? heretic

ZanSanCho

I know he said that there "might" be a chapter monday and tuesday? But it was kind of left up in the air. Im not getting my hopes up in case they're crushed in a couple days

Pekka Kohonen

I think he will post another chapter on Monday. That is what meant.

Strato Junon

Been hoping to see the next chapter appear. But might be tomorrow I suppose

Phil Ritter

That’s really not fair. You are always around the presence of the most magnificent being of the multiverse for you time sure flies but for mortals like us it’s way different

Dalton Service

Zog said on discord that we will be getting one more chapter before the break!

definitelynotbrjenness

sorry, you will always be an entertaining side character not the MC. you just don't have the "it" factor. That something special that puts you over the top is missing. Maybe if you were a monkey and your personality and interests varied you could make it as an MC, but you'd have to be supported by a shoe throwing mage exceptionally gifted in the use of conceptual magic and a king who lost the right to use his real name to a blacksmith in an arm wrestling match.

Jip

Honestly, im happy either way. Its a nice little teaser haha. Would be thrilled for another chappie or two though 😉

Kimesh

The next Audible go-live has been scheduled. It's 7th of Jan. I really like those audiobooks. Nice Travis found the time for another

Azayrian105

So based on the release schedule when will this chapter be in Kindle? Want to see how long I am going to be forced to wait.

Josie

Oh I guess I would be remiss not to talk about a certain Unique Lifeform. He has been an important part of the story for so long after all... I got all sappy when he went out with a bang saying "Long live the King" Not to mention that tutorial battle we were graced with. What great moments he's given us 💛

definitelynotbrjenness

lol. .well played. though you dud make me hop out of the shower to see if the next chapter dropped

Josie

Yeah I've refreshed my screen a few times over the weekend just to make sure I haven't missed it 😅

Xerecs

Hopefully it won't take too long for him to get 14 done and catch the audiobooks up to the current book release. Although according to amazon book 15 will release on March 25th.. so if he doesn't get 14 done soon the audiobooks will be two books behind the actual released books.

LemonPerson

Probably had them brought close to their malefic origins. juiced up legacy skills

Flopmind

Thanks Zog! Merry Christmas!

DefinitelyNotMinaga

Y'know what? i'll just gracefully take the mental damage dealt.

Bookreader97

I half agree with you. I think reviving villys wife will be the thing that makes them fight. Like Jake can do it but he will die in the process or something along those lines. I could actually see them fighting and almost killing eachother just so stop right at then end realizing they are friends and villy finally lets his wife and kid go

phil

looking back on these chapters gets he hyped for the upcoming arc, I'm especially excited to see how the other bloodline patriarch, Arron, is progressing cause he has an arcane affinity as well so id love an in depth chapter or two exploring his progress. maybe even including a small look into the dio sect since we know basically nothing from them as readers. oh and an update on the good boy Ollie

Nicole Sparks

Originator of Primeval Origins? ;)

Nicole Sparks

It’s about your car’s warranty!

Nicole Sparks

Wait. They can’t be in the same room as Artemis comfortably because she’s a god. Would they be able to be in the same room as Jake’s kids?

Chloe

Jake started out helping Villy get out of his funk and return to the land of the living. I would say everything Villy has done since has been approaching payback to a friend. So I dont buy the scales tipped so far from not equals. That said, tyftc