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“One would think I’d be rusty after not doing alchemy for over five hundred years,” Jake joked around with himself as he controlled the different energies within the cauldron at the same, if not a superior, level to before his little time-dilated adventure.

Finding himself in such good form really made Jake feel up to the task and kind of hyped up to do some alchemy again, even if it was a long shot that he’d actually succeed in creating what he'd rather ambitiously set out to do. Unfortunately, he was under strict time pressure and had a lot of things to consider before he could even start to make something useful.

Jake had given a lot of thought to what kind of poison to use, and many ideas had already started to take shape. Alchemists were scary as fuck in a war context, and for good reason, but Jake had never specialized in the kinds of poison suitable for war.

He had rarely used any large-scale poison tactics before, such as against the Simivita and birds in the Pantheon of Life Hunting Ground, but even that hadn’t been too effective.

Right now, his best way to poison many foes at once was by using his Wings of the Malefic Viper to pump out poison mist. However, truth be told, that mist kind of sucked, no doubt due to how Jake had never worked on improving it.

The poison mist effect had only ever been passively upgraded when the skill was upgraded, with none of them focusing on it. Instead, he’d tagged on new features such as the escape function and their ability to serve as a pretty solid defensive ability.

Blood of the Malefic Viper did help the poison mist a bit, but he hadn’t focused solely on making his blood as poisonous as possible either. In conclusion, Jake’s poison mist left much to be desired, and while he would have loved to work on upgrading Wings of the Malefic Viper to improve its ability to commit war crimes, only a few months would be far from enough.

Besides, if Jake wanted to make his poison mist stronger, wouldn’t it be a good idea to learn more about how such toxins worked in the first place? There was a good chance that part of his work on an upgrade would involve researching and crafting poison gas, so this could be viewed as taking half a step towards improving Wings anyway.

After a day or so of researching the basics, Jake had already reached a few more conclusions, one of which was that he wouldn’t be able to make a poison capable of killing anything.

Any kind of poison gas or mist Jake unleashed on a large scale simply wouldn’t contain enough toxins to overwhelm the vital energies of several B-grades at once, so unless he was fighting a bunch of C-grades, it was off the table. Usually, when alchemists did make poison mist capable of killing foes, it was in conjunction with other things Jake wasn’t confident in pulling off.

One of those things was the good old trap-formation-plus-poison combo. One would trap foes in a large formation, after which poison would be released on all those inside. The formation also often had the ability to further empower and infuse the poison with energy to keep it effective as long as possible, and needless to say, this kind of setup would take a long time to prepare and create. Far longer than Jake had, and besides, he had no idea how to make formations like that.

Aside from that, large-scale deadly poison attacks came about due to immense amounts being released by far more powerful alchemists than those it was used against, going back to Jake only being confident in making poison gas capable of killing if he faced C-grades.

There was one more kind of poison Jake could use that would work. Perhaps it would even be the most effective kind of poison. A type of poison so insidious that Jake wasn’t even sure it should be classified as a poison in the first place, and dangerous enough that Nevermore needed an entire floor to warn people about it.

He was naturally referring to plagues.

Jake wasn’t going to create a plague.

Putting all morals aside, it would be downright moronic for Jake to use a plague in the World of the Exalted Prima. Plagues were banned in the multiverse, and anyone who used them would be hunted down and killed. Even if Jake did it in a virtual world, he would still out himself as being capable of creating plagues, which in itself would be enough to put him on the shit-list.

While Villy could probably make it so Jake wouldn’t outright get a death sentence, it would still be a complete and utter shitshow if it came out Jake had used a plague, and how wouldn’t it come out? Anyone killed by it would appear in the real world, and given that most had done Nevermore, there was a good chance they would recognize a plague had been used and report that back.

Even in a best-case scenario, it would hurt the Order of the Malefic Viper, and in the worst-case scenario, it would cause several factions to have a falling out with the Order. He also had to consider the Pantheon of Life, who were one of the factions that had especially pushed to ban plagues. Would be a very bad look for their ally to then use them.

And no, Jake didn’t really consider if Villy would throw Jake under the bus. At least not in an official capacity.

So, yeah, no plagues. If Jake were ever going to use plagues, he would follow the Viper’s advice and make sure there wouldn’t be any witnesses of his crime.

With plagues not an option for this upcoming war, Jake considered another way to make it more effective at infecting people. One that got remarkably close to how plagues worked at times, but was fundamentally very different. Plus, it was something Jake was already very familiar with:

Curses.

While Jake had distanced himself from using curse energy with his class skills, he still very much wanted to make use of it in his alchemy, and this seemed like a great chance to do so. Curse energy was incredibly good at spreading between living beings and could cause a wide variety of effects. Jake wasn’t necessarily planning on using the effects of curses, though, but primarily their ability to deeply affect living things and being notoriously difficult to cleanse.

One of the reasons he didn’t think curses would be that effective was due to the type of foes he was dealing with. NPCs weren’t exactly emotional creatures, quite the opposite, so would the type of curses that Jake had experience with even work? Would amplifying emotions that weren’t there in the first place even be possible? There were too many unknowns, which was why he stuck to just relying on its concepts to infect things.

As for what kind of effect Jake was going for, he already had a good idea. As mentioned, then it wouldn’t make any sense going for poison gas capable of actually killing things. So, rather than making the army consume a pittance of vital energy, he would go for a toxin that would have an effect even in low doses. That was how it was most often used in wars, anyway.

Killing an entire army with poison gas was hard, but weakening them all a little bit? Now that was doable and would still have an utterly massive effect and could change the entire outcome of a conflict. He also had another type of poison – well, more like a concept – that he wanted to see if he could use. He hadn’t been able to pull it off in C-grade, but now that he had evolved to B-grade and had learned more about the concept through the half-a-Worldcore he’d consumed with Palate of the Malefic Viper, he believed it was time to give it a shot.

He was naturally referring to desolation.

That’s right, Jake wanted to create cursed poison gas of desolation. Surely, that was something he would be able to pull together in just a couple of months. He was only working with three things he had mediocre experience with, even though he had lots of theoretical understanding, so it shouldn’t be that hard, right?

Well, it turns out... it kind of wasn’t. Much to Jake’s surprise, he found himself making rapid progress in the beginning, quickly realizing that he knew a lot more than he thought he did about both curse energy and desolation.

For the curse energy he wanted to infuse into his creation, he used Arcane Curse Manifestation, his rarely used epic-rarity skill Jake got a long time ago. It allowed him to condense curse energy and seal it within stable arcane energy, giving him far more control over it than one would usually have with curses. Plus, he quickly learned that during the creation process, he could very much control which aspects of the curse he wanted amplified and which he didn’t need. While it wasn’t perfect, he quickly made good progress towards isolating the propagation aspects of curses that his deadly gas exhibited.

When it came to desolation, Jake had never really used it for anything before and knew it was considered a high-tier concept, which was one of the reasons why he’d expected it to be hard to use. However, when he managed to get some alchemical ingredients containing the concepts of desolation, he surprisingly found them pretty easy to deal with.

Desolation had the problem that it didn’t really play well with anything. Desolation wanted to make things desolate, nothing more, nothing less. It would seek to consume anything it came into contact with, but there were ways to control it somewhat. One of these ways could inherently be found in the rare alchemical ingredients Jake got via the Order.

Looking at the stack of flowers, he didn’t even want to ask how much they had cost and how tricky they were to harvest, given how they worked.

[Shrouded Tulip of Desolation (Ancient)] – A tulip hiding a seed of desolation within, wishing to conceal itself until the seed is fully grown. Will open its leaves and release desolation on anyone threatening its stem. Has limited alchemical uses.

From the description, one would think that picking these flowers would be borderline impossible, yet Jake had a good stack of them. All of their flowers were closed, and Jake could faintly detect the seed of desolation within, and with his sphere, he could also see the small marble hidden there.

From the explanation Jake read of how the flower worked, it would slowly accumulate energy and make the marble grow until it reached a sufficient size, after which the tulip and core would become one, creating a Desolate Tulip – a legendary rarity flower that usually killed everything nearby when it bloomed. If this flower survived sufficiently long, it could even become quite a powerful monster, often born as A-grade.

Of course, Jake just had the small versions with the marbles inside, which was more than enough for him. It wasn’t just the small seed of desolation Jake was interested in either, but also the flower itself and its properties. As mentioned, desolation usually sought to affect everything around it, yet the tulip could restrain it and even hide all traces of desolation, making it look like a regular flower.

Jake didn’t need the ability to hide, but the concepts controlling the desolation were very useful and something Jake sought to take inspiration from. He wanted to make the desolation within the poison very docile right up until the moment he didn’t want it to be. Dormant, so to speak. Ready to be activated at a moment’s notice, not unlike Jake’s Dragonsbane, which he admittedly also took inspiration from. A certain amount would have to accumulate before it was worth activating, lest its effects be too weak.

He considered many ways to hide the effect of the desolation and ultimately settled on a method. It would be impossible to hide the poison gas in its entirety, as quite frankly it was pretty obvious when poison gas was used. He also knew he couldn’t hide all its effects, so Jake went with a rather sneaky method of hiding the dormant desolation within the curse.

The curse energy and its effects would be extremely obvious, making everyone think that was what the gas was supposed to do. Not trying to hide all aspects of the curse was honestly also easier on Jake’s part, and curses tended to be rather loud and noticeable in the first place, so this worked nicely.

Of course, getting what he wanted took time and resources, but fortunately, he was the special boy of the Order of the Malefic Viper, which meant he had an endless supply of valuable ingredients to waste. He ate way too many of the tulips and other ingredients he used, and experimented recklessly, with no regard for cost or efficiency, caring only about results and saving time.

Sagacity of the Malefic Viper certainly also helped, as it allowed Jake to craft poison in powder form as if he had a dedicated crafting skill to do so. He even used Invocation of the Malefic Viper to speed things up further, empowering his Malefic Viper Legacy Skills, such as using it on Palate of the Malefic Viper while eating some tulips, finding it made the Records-absorbing aspect far more powerful, though the temporary weakening of the skill afterward did suck.

He also found that Primeval Alchemist’s Purification proved especially useful, as it allowed him to really isolate the aspects of the ingredients he wanted to use. It was an aspect he hadn’t even considered, but by removing all unwanted properties and amplifying only what he wanted, he could study these effects far more effectively by separating them.

This did once again waste a lot of resources and ingredients, but hey, Jake didn’t care about that kind of thing, and based on the Viper’s encouraging slap on his shoulder when he teleported by and dropped off more ingredients for Jake to burn up, the Primordial didn’t give a flying fuck either. Villy only seemed to care about Jake making progress, and would probably have given far more if Jake had asked for it, but no need to be more wasteful than he was already being.

A damn good alchemy session like this was honestly refreshing after spending so long in time dilation, and Jake felt like he was really doing something every day. It also felt damn good to make rapid progress and make use of the knowledge he’d slowly accumulated over many years regarding curses and the concept of desolation, and overall, he was having a damn good time. Admittedly, his powerful, high-rarity skills also helped him plenty, but that just added to the enjoyment as it was fun to make use of all the skills he had and experiment with them.

Perhaps his positive mind state played a role in his progress and helped him find success faster, because despite Jake kind of not thinking he would actually succeed in time, with four days to go before it was time to return to the Seat of the Exalted Prima, he found success.

It was weird, as Jake felt a little conflicted despite his success, because that meant the most fun part of this alchemy session was over. From now on, all he would do was mass-produce his newest poison in preparation for the World of the Exalted Prima, which was a lot less fun.

Granted, it did help a little that the result was better than expected, though the crafting process was still kind of difficult, which helped retain some of the enjoyment.

Though Jake did have to admit that when he looked at the system message that had confirmed his success, the name of his creation left much to be desired.

You have successfully crafted [Weak Cursed Dust of Shrouded Desolation (Epic)] – A new kind of creation has been made. Bonus experience earned

Comments

definitelynotbrjenness

Against AI Jake juice light poison could turn them all to blue smoke. Wonder what it would do to the contestants? Same thing because they are also simulated?

Author James Meyer - Oath of the Survivor

Nice to see a good crafting session, and also that Jake is using some of the concepts he's been learning. I also enjoy that he isn't crafting absolutely top-tier stuff in one go, even if it will be effective. Thanks for the chapter!

Suzanne Pearson

I love how Jake and Villy just wanna have fun! ….. with some very dangerous concepts! lol No expense spared!

Sayjinlord

Yes time for War Crimes!

Richard Rader

I’ve thought this for a while,I figure it will come down to Jake and Eron or someone else unkillable

Syf0

I feel like the Plague part in this chapter directly contradicts the prior mentions about plagues in the story sofar. The nevermore level warned about karmic plagues, that they are outlawed for a reason. Focusing on them spreading via karma as a central point. Later we had a talk with villy about the undead faction using regular plagues often to cleanse entire planets of life bevor turning them to death aspect. Villy also mentioned an entire branch in the order doing plague research / practicing the concept, but kinda dismissed it for its limited high level combat application. But now Jake, the chosen of the inventor of plagues, fears using plagues in a virtual world would bring too many negative consequences? So are all the other alchemists in the order doing plagues wanted warcrimminals that can’t leave the order without being executed? Are the undead empire putting slave like contracts on their plague practitioners to ensure they only cleanse grass and small critters?

Daniel Brian

I'm sure even weak desolation is still crazy powerful..

Xerecs

Wasn't his first real use of large scale poison attacks against the rainbow songbirds? It has been a bit but I don't recall him needing to do that against the simivita.

Tribal

TFTC, yes that name needs work.... I think the system is getting its naming protocols from Jake .... LoL

Loststar7

Happy Monday all. Thanks for the chapter and a blighthearted start to the week.

definitelynotbrjenness

Void doesn't play well in simulation. I wonder if Desolation will fail or be a delete button like Jake juice.

BumAssBumAss

I bet Villy is thinking, "bro, you can totally just make that plague. Don't worry about alliances, I already done it to every major faction at least once."

Fyrtue

Bout to engage in some War Crime Wednesday activities. His return to the simulation is going to be hype as hell.

Kyler

Incoming profession change to "Primal cursed alchemist of primeval origins and other shit"

Ritsu

I think it was mentioned plagues are researched at the Order, but they have to be done under extremely controlled circumstances so they don't spread to the wider multiverse. If the Order suddenly released plagues willy nilly, even Villy wouldn't be able to stop all the backlash. It probably be wouldn't be that bad in a virtual world, but it might just paint an unnecessary target on their back.

djthomp

The long game of eating that desolate world core way back when is finally paying off. Eating it was clearly a good idea in hindsight.

Syf0

Do you have a quote for that? Cause I am unable to find any section mentioning it

Kota

I recently listened to those chapters again, and I think Ritsu may be right. The Order researches plagues, but doesn't openly deploy them. I can't recall any mention of the Risen routinely using plagues either - when they cleanse planets, I thought it's done by other means, such as large-scale terraforming that saturates the land with death energy snd makesnit unihabitable for the living. I distinctly recall the Wyrmgod mentioning back then other factions might have an issue with Jake just knowing how to create plagues...

Ritsu

It was a throwaway line in Nevermore when they were talking about how even though plagues are restricted, people at the Order can still research it since the Order is a powerful organization. And on the plague floor, it was implied they keep an eye out for plague users outside their control.

C0bra$

Thank u for the story

Bluejay

A weak in the skill name is just forward progression for upgrades, don't worry about it Jake.

zran

Well, unlike with dragon parts which where very expensive, this other stuff might be cheap in comparison, especially those flowers, since i am sure there are some people specializated on dealing with them, so getting credits for gathering a few thousands? Easy money for that kind of people

Raymond Whitehead

Im looking forward to Miranda's reaction to the poison and Eron / the Eastbound Monk cheating

JW Saxby

I reckon that when he upgrades this skill eventually to a more impressive version that can spread in a similar fashion to his first students “wrath sin curse” type thing during Nevermore arc that he will probably use the Cheetohs heart that he got after beating the Cheetoh man (El’hakkan) to incorporate the emotion related aspects of a curse into his creation. Just a theory 🤷🏻‍♂️ Great chapter 👍🏼 Tyftc 🍻

Brian Schutt

Was that one of the times he just yeeted poisons all around to control movements and protect himself or something? Been awhile but do not think it was special poisons. Definitely large quantity of poisons attack for sure.

ABTelford

Thanks for a great start to my Monday!

filip laskowski

Jake is once again abusing villys credit card

Suzanne Pearson

That’s part of its charm…. A bad name until it grows up into a bad boy

Phil Ritter

I always felt like thing like Plagues were more or less outlawed only to the weak. If you are strong enough nobody gives a shit and it very much feels like Jake is too valuable or interesting to many factions that most wouldn’t really care as long as he doesn’t overdo it and spawns something like a Karmic plague. It would make him a high priority enemy of pretty much every faction in the simulation tho so not worth it

Fylbrom

"You made a plague" "No, its not a plague." "But it acts like a plague" "But its not, its poison, mixed with a curse, turned into dust form, and a little desolation on top." "Bruh" "Still not a plague" - Miranda/Jake (probably)

Thoseer

Jake isn’t being creative enough with the plague idea.

Clint

Remember kids: It’s never a war crime the first time.

Xerecs

I think he used poison bombs he spread around the area to essentially control the battlefield.

Tino Aalto

Truly the Canadians should be proud

Matt

Oh no. Jake started thinking about formations. I can see where this is going. He's about to enlist Lilian into helping him commit war crimes.

Justin

Wait is the plan to mass produce it in the days/ weeks before he has to go back? He can’t make it inside the world wonder right? I’d assume the plants / ingredients he needs aren’t available.

InfernoDroid

"Jake wasn’t going to create a plague." - you accidentally put "wasn't" instead of "was definitely" then added in several paragraphs afterwards that shouldn't exist.

PapaJohn

Time to violate the Geneva Suggestions!!!!

KatHabit

Sick potion name, happy Monday everybody!!

Bookreader97

This is arguably more fucked up then a plague. Good job Jake.

Gracie

tftc!! 🏹⚗️🐍

Jaxkie

Thank you for the chapter

Siethrobo

Villy is probably the reason the Multiverse hunts down plague users nowadays

Rewdan

Thanks Zogarth Good start to the week.

Rewdan

I prefer non political Jake to let’s not upset people Jake. He should of just made a plague that affects vital energy and let rip.

Tanner Lannister

I thought there was something that made it much harder for him to bring outside potions and poisons into world of the prima won’t he have to mass produce once he gets in there?

Oblivion

Who better to commit new war crimes against than the neighboring Holy Church?!

Stephen

Also, its not a war crime if noone is left alive.

R Mac

Jake’s wings producing desolation would be sick

Thenais

then added in several paragraphs afterwards that don't exist.

Daniel

You’d be surprised, the big heavy pot is less effective against large groups, even if the weird smells coming from it are very dangerous

Skier .

Whats the point in mass production since I thought he can’t use it when he enters the world of the exalted prima and would have to effectively mass produce inside anyway?

HateMongerian

Canadians may have started that. But, Americans have perfected it.

definitelynotbrjenness

have you heard of that great new energy powder that boosts your stats? here I'll give you Liam's contact info. he's the one selling it.

Gh0st-Hunt3r

Ok now let's release that beast on the masses!!! MUAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Corvid

If anything, I'm betting Miranda is more likely to make a proper plague first. She has access to the perfect way of hiding what was actually happened, and barring that, the perfect place to dump plague-ridden bodies where they can't be found. She just has to lean a bit into the swamp hag aesthetic of the Verdant Lagoon more than the green-witch vibe.

InfernoDroid

You what, I think the primal hunter is just a really well written villain story with how many of us are rooting for war crimes lol

Clint

Depends what you call large. He poisoned a whole sounder of boars way back in the tutorial.

j km

While I think that is true of potions for npcs - I think anything you bring in works for you - ex Dragonsbane poison

Skier .

When he first entered the world they said that he couldnt produce potions using any ingredients from outside and had to buy the ingredients from the virtual shop. Feels somewhat arbitrary if thats true but pre-crafted potions work fine.

j km

1336 - crafts inside only work with simulated ingredients. Anything brought in can be used though.

Skier .

Ah that makes sense. I guess without that then stuff like weapons would also get weird.

Kota

Well, I took the time to look it up, but couldn't actually find a direct quote saying the Order specifically still researches plagues. Still some interesting stuff here: Book 7, Chapter 59: “Karmic Plagues—and plague magic in general—have not been used in any official capacity for many eras…” Dina muttered. “And if they are used, they will be hidden.” (…) A plague could be cured, but no fucking way they or any other C-grade could do it, as Jake had never heard of anyone below A-grade ever creating a plague… (…) Plagues were outlawed in the multiverse for a reason, but that didn’t mean some didn’t still create them. And the course of action once one encountered a plague was pretty damn clear. Chapter 67: (…) several times she mentioned how plagues were the closest thing to being outlawed that anything could be in a lawless multiverse. How if one of them decided to ever try and create a plague, they would be hunted down and killed. Chapter 68: “Come on… Would he really be my Chosen if he didn’t at least know how to create a plague?” The Viper smiled. “Not saying he should make one, but nothing wrong with learning how to.” “I am confident nearly every other faction in existence would disagree with that assessment,” the Wyrmgod said with a sigh. (…) Chapter 70: Some factions did still use plagues, but it was in heavily controlled settings and with lots of oversight, with some forms of plagues—such as Karmic Plagues—entirely banned. Plagues could also only be created by a set number of powerful factions, with only a few forces walking Paths that facilitated the creation of plagues. Chapter 71: (…) Jake was pretty damn sure he could get away with researching and even making plagues with his identity as the Chosen of the Malefic Viper (…) Interesting that a) Jake thought back then he could get away with plague-crafting, but now he isn’t so sure (or at least thinks it’d cause more trouble than it’s worth), even in a purely virtual setting, and b) he’d never heard of anyone below A grade crafting plagues but is so confident he himself could pull it off in early B grade. Either he was way off the mark back then or he just thinks he’s that good.

Sayjinlord

Is it really evil if it's deployed against the Holy Church?

Justin

This is what I was posting about and also still makes no sense if I can bring in potions why not just have villy mass produce the best curse pots any B grade could use? Is there even a limit on using a potion as a weapon. Either way villy and the order could be arming the order sooo much better and have an entire supply line with scheduled people staggering exiting and entering for resupply

tim300wsm

I have a hat that says that😂 gotta love the fat electrician

tim300wsm

Need another Villy chapter. Gotta know what’s in the scroll

j km

That is explained early in the series that their is a limit to how effective damage causing poisons can be when made by others - the example was that an s grade couldn’t make a poison for a c-grade to kill anything stronger than himself. Rare and epic potions should start to show up though as the restrictions are dropped.

Daniel

I’m a nerd, these are my favorite chapters

Skier .

While that is true. Also early in the series remember how for people at the same grade, Jakes potions were way better than everything else available to them. Seems like a peak B grade genius (or many from the order) could pump out potions and have them brought into the virtual world.

DerangedMan

I think it was the raw ingredients.

Nebulous

Typo: "Instead, he’d tagged on new features such as the escape function and winds that serve as a pretty solid defensive ability." winds -> wings Thanks for the chapter! I love that he is using desolation and getting back to curses with his alchemy!

DefinitelyNotMinaga

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Kaladorph

I think givin her ritual talents its far more likely she uses the mentioned trap and poison method. Especially since plagues have one problem, speed. They dont kill in minutes.

Xander

TFTC :) Plagues werent specifically banned were they? Karmic plagues were and other plagues are used in controlled circumstances but they werent generally banned that I recall from the discussion in nevermore anyways. True it would be a pain in the cock and would ruin a lot of the fun of the event but stil not "technically" illegal. Anyways, hopefully Jake gets some of his poison to Lillian and she can incoporate the gas grenades into her sealing formations and we can see vast armies, trapped in bubbles of desolate gas, melting into puddles of goo :D Suggested edits: "He had *scarcely* used any large-scale poison" should be "rarely" "*Besides that,* large-scale deadly poisons" repetitive from 10 words before. Start the sentence at "large" "He was *only* working with three things he had *only* mediocre experience with" repetitive. Ditch the second. "high-rarity and powerful skills " this one is an ordering of adjectives. Should be "powerful, high-rarity skills"

TheRomanGeneral

I could be remembering incorrectly but wasn't it specifically karmic plague that were outlawed?

OldandGrumpy

Help an old man with poor memory, please? Is desolation the power used by the bad guys that ambushed Jake in the void, or is it the power used by that weirdo that was manipulated by Voice control dude during the competition for the prima thing? Also, is the Whale still alive?

Shandlar

Yeah, B grade is still relatively low end. The Order is "small" in multiverse terms but the YoY arc implied they still had tens of trillions of members. So anything B grade is almost certainly plentiful compared to anything Jake could possibly consume personally. Several billion B grades at least, all contributing at least some resources to the order.

WaywardSoul

Hey, if it's a new kind of creation, it's never a war crime the first time counts right?

Syf0

Thank you for looking deeper into it! I stumbled over the undead empire quote during my latest reread of book 7 chapter 18. Villy and Jake have a little plague dialog: "Plague theory is not really a big branch of the Order. If I am perfectly honest, it is due to its generally low level of power. It is only good at killing those significantly weaker, and even then, it is often easily thwarted by talented healers and others finding ways to combat it. But yes, it has been used. More by the Risen than the Order, though, as it is a good way to clear life-affinity energy from an area to kill off all the weak critters, turning it into a land of death. Now, if you really wanna kill a planet without having to kill everything by yourself… Ah, never mind, we’ll save that one for another time. Just know you already possess the necessary tools, even if you lack the power to pull it off." And that was with Jake still mid tier d grade

Seen Death

Living up to your name haha Desolation is a concept, and The Viper is debatably the most famous/best user of it, also it was used by the attackers in the void to erase themselves + their tracks, and im not 100% sure what ur talking about the last part... But there was a demigod that was born on some random planet during the beginning of the prima event, whos base was made up of ell-honkin's soul (if i remember correctly) And his whole thing was desolation aswell In short, yes to all of it

Seen Death

I think its basically "anything that can self propigate and unable to be controlled" So basically any plague, and yes the scenerio we learned about the rule was involving a karmic plague

Seen Death

Cuz jake is "only" P2W for research and materials haha

Seen Death

Idk i feel this one is justified tho haha If its a rule even gods follow and enforce, prob not ideal to show everyone you have experience in the actual forbidden arts Reminder, plagues are forbidden meanwhile obliterating entire galaxies isnt even blinked at lol

OldandGrumpy

Thank you young man. When you have lived as long as I have, you forget what you forgot. May the Malefic One watch over you.

Laura Drysdale

Why do you keep saying leaves instead of petals. When Tulip flowers open, they open their petals not leaves. Leaves are only on the stems. The sunflowers in the outer garden at the palace, you also kept saying leaved not petalled. They are fom different parts of a plant, not the same thing