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I did not last long without doing a survival show... my Patreon feel so empty without it lol.

Also, I know that this show may be a little triggering for some fans given the history of the group. But I encourage a respectful and mature conversation in the comments section. Thanks!

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NOTICE

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Christine Copeland aka Christine's Culinary Quest

Jeff, I know you watched Queendom s2 during/after this show since I already watched that reaction. Did you recognize Mashiro from Girl Group 2 in this episode when you watched that show? She ended up in Kep1er.

Kiwi Space

I'm not a cub (Woojin fandom name), but I feel bad for Woojin. He was proven innocent, yet his reputation was nearly shattered forever. I think deep down, the fandom never really cared for Woojin, that's why when the accusation came about, it was completely one sided. It took him years, but I'm glad he was able to somewhat bounce back and make music again.

Anna Storchak

About girl team 2 You can see there Mashiro who now debuted in Kep1er

Andreeeea

Early Stray Kids was very very rap heavy and very much 3Racha based and you'll definitely notice that during the survival show. Even after their debut you could also see from maybe the first two comebacks that the three of them would get a majority of the lines, but after that there was definitely a change in line distribution and the other members really got to showcase more. I'm really glad that you've decided to react to this and I'm definitely looking forward to rewatching this with you

Tal ✨ (edited)

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2026-10-03 07:00 I'm a cub and I'm glad he's doing fine now. I'm happy that he has a loving and caring fandom right now. It feels nice! And I'm glad that you think positively about him even tho you're not a fan. <3
2022-02-12 20:08 I'm a cub and I'm glad he's doing fine now. I'm happy that he has a loving and caring fandom right now. It feels nice! And I'm glad that you think positively about him even tho you're not a fan. <3

I'm a cub and I'm glad he's doing fine now. I'm happy that he has a loving and caring fandom right now. It feels nice! And I'm glad that you think positively about him even tho you're not a fan. <3

May

This feels like a blast from the past since I only watched it while it was airing and haven't seen it since. A little explanation on Skz's backstory and what the survival show is about. Stray Kids were selected by Bang Chan. Usually when a new group debuts, the lineup is decided by the company but this time Chan was the one who decided on the members. The whole survival show is centered around the kids proving to JYPE that they should let them debut with this lineup.

LiveLaughLoveZonZon

Can’t wait to watch this again and be traumatized lol….but I keep hoping the next show will be LOUD 😭

May

I guess I'll answer your questions as I watch. The showcase was to decide which team would debut. The company had decided and picked the lineup for the girls team and Chan had picked and produced the boys team. The two teams were competing to decide which would debut first. Also the solo girl you saw (Lily) is debuting with NMIXX under JYPE this month.

Tal ✨

This is gonna be my first time watching this as well. I don’t know why I avoided this much to watch their survival show. I saw a lot of clips of it but I never watched it fully. Maybe I didn’t want to cry lol. But yeah. I’m excited to watch it with you Jeff!

Bg_12

I'm a stay since 2018 and I never watched it before cause I've seen so many nerve wracking scenes from this on the internet. But I guess the time has come. Watching this one episode felt like watching the Kingdom finale. So nerve wracking and for what, I know they debuted, and as a 9

May

Haha to clarify, IF the girls team had been selected to debut, then the name of the show and the group would not have been Stray Kids. The name of the show was decided after we knew which group was debuting, and I believe Chan is the one who named the group and created their logo as well. Its in his handwriting too. This is why Stays call Stray Kids, Chan's group rather than JYP's group.

Zoe Chin

Let me provide some background of the show.. I watched the show when it’s aired, everyone watched it at that time should know the boy group would be the debut team as Hellevator MV has already been released beforehand. The promotion of the show stated that is “Stray Kids vs JYP”, so at the time being, it’s quite nerve-wracking to watch through the show because you would not know if the group would debut at the end of the show. It’s interesting to watch this again along with your commentary, definitely enjoy it!

Destiny

One of the girls from the girls team is in Kepler now. Mashiro. I kept trying to look at her face to see if that was her and it was.

Tal ✨

See. This is me. I mean I’m considered a new fan cuz I became a stay in 2020 but like, I saw those nerve wrecking scenes’ clips on youtube a lot but I avoided watching the whole show. But yeah the time has come 😄

Isabelle reffas

I never understood why he left. Can you explain please? It's like this big Stray Kids mystery no-one wants to talk about.

Tal ✨

To Isabelle: He left because of personal reasons and that’s all we know. It’s written like that in the official Jype statement. It said that he left for personal reasons and that everyone should support him in the future.

Beggar Yuchan

Ohmygod I laughed when they showed Bangchan's picture when he was a zombie in Like ooh-aah and covered up the next zombie next to him which is A.C.E's Chan lmao

SB

"never really cared" is a bit much cus i rmr when he started to open his personal socmed accounts (before the accusations), there was still a lot of support for him from stays. i think the reason why his scandal blew way out of proportion is bcus of 1. its an sa accusation of a freaking idol + he did not handle it well at the start 2. how hard it must have been for skz at that time and it showed so it's a 1+1 deal aka the perfect way to hate him

ohduhree

Yay! Sorry I missed your skz contents so I left.. and now I'm back for this ☺️ and skz comeback soon!! Excited to see another full album reaction 🔥

jeffavenue

i mean skz made me like rap but i’m glad the shift happened cause their vocals are also insane lol

jeffavenue

chan = genius. wondering how the scouting process went tho?

jeffavenue

ahhh okay. my little sister tried LOL

jeffavenue

haha totally understandable! and skz comeback? yessss and of course we’ll do an album reaction!

Tal ✨

I think he handled it well (I’m not saying it was the best way) but I think because of mistranslation of his statement, it got out of hand too quickly. I don’t think there is a best way to handle this. If I was accused of something this serious, I honestly wouldn’t know what to do. I wasn’t a fan of skz back then so I don’t know about the support that stays gave to him but I heard from the stays from that time that there were fans who were commenting ‘now I can comfortably say he is ugly’ etc so I don’t think that was nice from the fans as well. I think that kinda shows that some of them (I’m only talking about toxic people) were not exactly a fan of him right from the start. I’m sure skz had difficulties at that time. It’s not easy to lose a member, a friend specifically and also re-recording for the album and everything. I understand stays would be hurt as well but it’s obvious that Woojin had a really hard time alone too. I just hope some day, all of this hate will stop and everyone will move on from this. Cause the more we’re stuck, the more everyone’s gonna get hurt.

Tal ✨

Welp. Sorry for the long comment 😅

Kiwi Space

@Talar Ayda I agree the mistranslation was out of hand, alot times idols get what they say mistranslated, but before anyone knows, it's already too late. I'm glad he left on his own accord and for his mental health

SB

@Talar no need for the apology over the long comment cus i enjoyed reading and reflecting on it :))! i think this is the best take on this whole situation so yea,, im just indifferent towards woojin now though at times i still get upset but now that i read ur comment, i cant imagine how much he must have felt after reaching rock bottom and the fact that he didnt give up and strived to still be in the industry today speaks volume + is admirable. i probably still be wont checking his stuff but i also hope stays would move on and stop bringing him up for laughs or clout.

Isabel

fun fact han and hyunjin hated each other during this, this was still back when they would fight a lot

Lawresha

Hi since you said you wanted to know skz more do you think you'll be reacting to their reality shows anytime soon or there 1 kids 2 kids and 2 kids room + 1 series

Kiki

I’ve been wanting to watch and learn more about StrayKids origin, I’m and so glad that iI can watch with you. I enjoy your thoughtful comments.

EZDC

It's finally Mar 1 and I've joined right away as a Patreon to watch this with you. Hoping you'll really feel closer to SKZ with this

strange& sleepless

Honestly I'm still uncomfortable with him, not because I believe the accusations, I know he was proven innocent. But because of how the boys reacted to the whole departure and how suspicious the whole situation was. I just don't trust him anymore. But I don't hate him, I just ignore him.

strange& sleepless

God it's so weird to watch this, for one because of how much they grew up and changed since then, But also because i'm reminded of how I felt and what I thought about each one of them back then which is very different from how I view them now.

bsr RM94

love and hate survivalshows at the same time. You should watch win to get to know ikon and winner better, and then mix and match for ikon and hongseok of pentagon