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XG Documentary Series: EP XX to EP X3 (Patreon)

Published:
2023-06-19 00:10:10
Imported:
2026-08
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What. A. Journey. These girls went through A LOT.

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2026-09-14 14:00 HELL YES HERE FOR THIS! Marathon begins tonight! Thanks for getting to this Jeff! Really looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
2023-06-19 00:22

ThatPatreonThough

I’d actually argue that this training is actually even more extreme than the Kpop ones. While individual Kpop trainees have varying training times, some short and some very long, all of these girls started TOGETHER and then were slowly whittled away to form the final group, XG. Most Kpop companies just have a bunch of trainees and then see how they look and pair them up and swap them around and add new people all the way up until the literal recording and release of the debut. Using the very recently released docucompetition for BabyMonster as the Kpop example: YG is a huge label so they can afford more. The BabyMonster project was just about a year old and they’d never even sung together as 7 before that final vocal evaluation.

Jill Busch

Omygosshhh I'm so happy you did this!! I always look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions than other content creators!

Redclover

Dear Nate, I think that each company, each producer has their own vision for their group, which made their eliminate and training process different from each other. The YG documentary of Baemon that they show us is just a very small part of the whole elimination process that was happening continually all the time with high pressure just as the Xtra Xtra documentary. And we only see the tiny final moment of it. For us, that seem like a fake one to boost the fame on the market, but to the trainee at that time, they are all real, they all face the last chance to the new start. So please, do not compare anything while you are not really thoroughly observe the whole process.

Redclover

Dear Jeff, love your reaction and analyze as always. I like your saying that It's totally fine for children to do this as long as it's their own will. I have seen many people protest about the training system for young trainee. They may young, but it's their own decision, they seriously invest their effort and passion for their own future. It's should be fine as long as the adult take care of their mental health, they can put them to high pressure but need someone to consult them frequently to guide them. Provide the kids a proper place to stay, practice and learning is ok . Just do not threaten them, force them to do it, then why not, just let them do their loving things. By the way, I recommend you watch XG's performance (fan cam) on Head In The Cloud - New York, they were awesome.

Jill Busch

yes please agree.. Head In The Clouds - New York (Their 1st Performance in USA)

vega

About Simon, he was in a 2nd gen group called dalmatian that became DMTN after. Their most well known song is ER I think.

jeffavenue

thank you for clarifying some of the moments i missed! definitely helped! between the subs and the footage, you do miss some details hehe 😂 such great girls!

Jagjot Atwal

Nate's point was that the documentary for Baemon was fake in the sense that, that wasn't what their trainee time and evaulations were actually like which is what Ashkahn was saying as a reason that XG's training was harder. So he is saying the same thing as you.

Jagjot Atwal

Ash, we know multiple KPOP companies use the same system, Simon himself went through it and mentioned it in the first episode that he is using the Korean idol training system. We have accounts from idols like Jennie who have stated there were 9 girls for BP and every month or so she had to say bye to a friend. We also have seen in the baemon introduction videos that there were others girls there and their faces are blurred out, the last eval which was the current 7 members those specific members had not sung together or danced as a group together of that size up until a year ago. We know YG was not planning on a group that size either since all the evaluations were in groups of 5 before the last eval, so of course they haven't sung/danced together. That is the same for XG in this, none of them have danced together as the 7, definitely haven't sung together.

barbie

OMG how did i miss this earlier ?? time to binge

Virtual TimeLine

From what I've seen from these 3 episodes is that Simon is extremely smart and really knows what he is looking for. The Korea dance training for example, yes they were training in dance, but I think that the main objective was to trigger their determination and a change in mindset. Sending them away very quickly definitely had a change in the members, but also the members that were not sent away had the realization that it could end very quickly, thus bringing out detirmination and drive.