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#545 - It's Joever (w/ Branko Marcetic) (Patreon)

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2024-07-25 17:11:48
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It's a politics-only episode, because we've got a big subject: it's time to say goodbye to your favorite American president, Joe Biden. We welcome back Branko Marcetic to tally #46's success and failures, and do a vibe-check on the Democratic Party following the ouster of its standard-bearer. PLUS: Branko reports on the Republican National Convention.

"Joe Biden Wanted This" by Branko Marcetic - https://jacobin.com/2024/07/biden-2024-dropout-gaza-legacy

"How Joe Biden Became a Steadfast Israel Defender" by Branko Marcetic - https://jacobin.com/2024/07/joe-biden-israel-support-history

"Never Forget How Many Times the Liberal Establishment Saved Biden’s Arse" by Luke Savage - https://novaramedia.com/2024/07/23/never-forget-how-many-times-the-liberal-establishment-saved-bidens-ass/

"Why Biden finally quit" - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

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Blank

Fuck yes Branko and Beverley hills cop intro

James Majure

Tony Scott vulgar auteurists in shambles that Will doesn't like Beverley Hills Cop 2.

Arid

I'm just excited that something is happening and I don't need to watch an old man fail to form complete sentences for an hour again. That first debate was just... so sad

David

Politics only? Non Americans? Sober thoughts? I don't know about that last one, but this is a recipe for quality.

Nick Playfair

Hulk Hogan torpedoed an attempt to unionise wrestlers, and regardless of how you feel about pro wrestling I think we can all agree that them being treated as "independent contractors" with no rights as employees is utter bullshit. Still a great promo though, I feel sorry for the no-charisma loser JD Vance having to follow that.

Dave Roldan

Don't blame me, I voted for the Ultimate Warrior. Oh, wait..

John Balch

Luke’s comment about how all that’s left for the parties to contend over is narrative reminded me a lot of the following from John Ganz’ new book When the Clock Broke: “But what did it all amount to? Polls still showed broad discontent with both Bush and Clinton, and now the public was beginning to sour on Perot as well. Clinton was viewed favorably by only 16 percent of the public, Perot by 26 percent, while Bush was at 29 percent. But there was now the perception, fueled by the media desperate for a story, that something had changed, Clinton had done something and had turned a corner, accomplished something bold and new. If nothing else, it got attention: Clinton had desperately been trying to break Perot’s hold on the media and now seemed to have accomplished it. But he also judged the national mood correctly. People wanted to be pissed off, but the specifics were too irritating and difficult: the details of urban policy didn’t get people going, dwelling on the scenes of burned-out Los Angeles was too depressing and hopeless. Reality had to be left behind. People wanted to talk about something else while seeming as if they were still addressing the serious issues. As always, symbols—actors, rappers, songs, movies, culture—were needed to stand in for complex issues.”

Agustin Arias

Trump dumps JD and replaces him with RFK Jr. World implodes.

Curtis Bathurst

I can’t stop skipping the recorded Biden clips; they’re just so uncomfortable.

Jackson Ayres

My two cents: skip revisiting the Hillbilly Elegy movie -- we're getting plenty of that elsewhere. Instead, follow the trail left by Vance's old blogs that Luke read at episode's end, and watch GARDEN STATE.

Patrick ODonnell

JD Hamel was JD’s name during his military/college tenure, he was born James Donald Bowman (named after his father) but it was changed to James David Hamel when his stepfather legally adopted him as a kid. Vance is his grandparents’ last name and he decided to use that when he got married.

Amy B

Australians when Branko brought up AUKUS: “We’ve been mentioned on telly!”

Chris Sherman

I agree with Will’s thoughts on the Democrats, but we did get about half of them to skip Netanyahu’s speech. There’s a long way to go, sadly, but they’re feeling some pressure. Anyway, nice episode. It’s Joever!

David Borntrager

I think the main reason Trump chose Vance as his running mate is that he wanted to save money on printing. It is the exact same yard signs as before. Pence -> Vance. Just change two letters and a number

mruskin

Hell yeah, AUKUS mentioned! I do disagree somewhat that the Democrats don't have a vision in contrast to Trump's Republican Party. This was true of the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 but less so in subsequent elections. Even Biden's 2020 campaign had a vision—a remarkably reactionary one. At present, there are many national Democrats and state governors who have been electorally successful with a message centered around social liberalism (e.g., abortion & LGBT rights) & public investments (e.g., schools & infrastructure), which they connect to certain ideas of what America should be. This vision is far from adequate, but it is not quite true that Democrats don't know how to propose their own ideas apart from opposing Trump—I think this criticism is in many ways a hangover from 2016.

murt pie
>>144719182

And he decided to go by JD after seeing Zach Braff (who was in Garden State) on Scrubs.

Daniel Lima

I've missed Branko. The You've Got Mail episode is one of my favorites. Bring back Meagan Day!

Eric

So who the fuck even are all these moderate midwest swing-voters that are so politically disinvested they could still go either way, are still going to vote, yet are so passionately pro-Israel they could never vote Harris if she forced a ceasefire 10-months into this tragedy? There cannot realistically be 50,000 people who vote like this.

Lunchboxx
>>144726652

Yes, but how much is that managing image and how much was an act of conscience? A room full of people doing what Rashida Tlaib did would have been a statement.