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#571 - Benn's Bandwagon (Patreon)

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2024-11-02 23:04:11
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With a dreary United States presidential election covering every surface, we search for some solace in politics from the past. Early in the Thatcher era in 1981, the beloved left-wing Labour MP Tony Benn launched a populist campaign to become his party's deputy leader, and almost won. We watch a documentary from the period, BENN'S BANDWAGON (1981), and ask: Was the conservative wave of the 1980s really inevitable?

Watch "Benn's Bandwagon" here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e4MWekQKZE&t=2s&ab_channel=ModernLonelyTV

Our previous Tony Benn episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/209-tony-benn-47399362

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Comments

Mary Radford

I like the great white north song more 😉

Blank

This Ottawa song will not appease us, M&U nation demand GWN

piranhaplant

This episode was exactly what I needed to hear in the midst of this bleak election. Definitely gonna check out this doc as well as Benn's diaries. As always, thanks for the great pod, fellas :)

Ciaran Colley

Super episode. I'll be sure to look up the documentary, as well as the previous Michael & US episode on Tony Benn. And Andy Beckett has brought out some excellent books. My personal favourite is 'Promised You A Miracle', about the importance of the 1980-82 period to the Thatcherism project. It gives some small clues as to why a Government that almost trebled unemployment managed to get re-elected in a landslide.

Victor Holmberg

fantastic episode - will defo check out the new Beckett book and the documentary. Luke talking about the smearing of Benn's legacy resonated immensely with me as someone who studied a year in the peak of the neoliberal, pre-Brexit, pre-Corbyn UK where Benn was very much presented an archaic figure - someone who Labour were lucky to have escaped the leadership of.

aaron

unreal how true the 'first as tragedy, then as farce' idea rings true when following his son (Hillary Benn)'s career

Kieran Duffy

Honestly, it's shocking that you haven't done Rifkin's festival yet.

David

Going to need you guys to listen to Jon Stewart talk about the rally to restore sanity on the Ezra Klein podcast. It's a foundational moment in the M&U universe revisited

sinesynced

the people yearn to take off (to the great white north). it's a beauty way to go

Oliver Elliott

Re the clip around 30:00 re hope: ironically I think what makes so many elections, especially in the US seem so high stakes is that people explicitly or implicitly know that the ostensibly center-left party doesn’t believe in the future and will never turn back any harm caused by the right. So of course victory by the right seems catastrophic because it will never be reversed. And because of that, people cling to the centrists even harder even though they have no faith in them. Things always get worse unless the centrists win and then it gets worse more slowly. Starmer is only unique because he makes the subtext into text by flat out saying things can’t get better.

Oliver Elliott
>>154408677

I guess what I really mean is that when I look at the sad, stressed people around me, I think they are in mourning the death of the future. That’s why it’s so troubling to them. (And to me.)

trasparenti

just want to point out that rio bravo - a 2.5-hour western from nearly 70 years ago with remarkably little "action" of the conventional sort - doesnt merely hold up but legitimately slaps, whips, nae-naes, etc.

Eric Cline

Suggested title for a future episode: "The Blair Wins Project."