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#574 - Winning Is Everything, Stupid! (Patreon)

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A month before the 2024 U.S. presidential election, CNN aired a hagiographic documentary about one of the masterminds of the last 30 years of American politics. In the aftermath of a disastrous election for Democrats, we watch CARVILLE: WINNING IS EVERYTHING, STUPID! (2024) to learn how the Beltway was thinking about itself before everything came crashing down. PLUS: Get ready for the most riveting conversation about bike lanes in Toronto, Ontario you'll hear all year.

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Paul Caravello

Already Levitating when I hear the bill clinton saxophone

Chris M.

I like the bike lane talk

Jack Frayne-Reid

I'm delighted to hear about the pivot into being a Traffic podcast. I look forward to hearing the authentic Sloan/Savage takes on such albums as John Barleycorn Must Die and the Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys, and hope its remit can be expanded to include Steve Winwood solo releases.

Amy B

Will may resent talking about US politics but in truth, as Boon Jong Ho perceptively observed, "we all live in the same country, it’s called capitalism". Just on the issue of bike lines, it's incredible how right-wingers, the world over, hate them and will spend public money to remove them. Even in Berlin, the authorities reconverted bike lanes that had been installed along the Friedrichstraße back into parking spaces for cars.

Jeremy Hawkins

This podcast has made The Heartbreak Hotel the most ominous song I've ever heard.

Blank

Get his neolib Cajun cryptkeeper ass

Alex

Here in Sydney, we’ve had a socially progressive, broadly business friendly mayor for two decades - she’s Biden level old. I’m convinced part of her ongoing appeal is how reviled she is by the right - back in the 90s and early 2000s because she gave more funding to pride parades than Christmas festivities, and since then it’s been bike lanes. Conservatives see a cyclist and the Kill Bill siren goes off.

Michael and Us
>>155355987

I'll never resent talking about it, but there are certain days - for example, the week after Donald Trump is re-elected - when I may resent THINKING about it. -WS

murt pie

Are you guys going to cover Thomas Frank's article about the election, how it was a referendum on "the elites?"

Simon Vasta
>>155346906

my new york ass is incredibly down for toronto bike lane content. that being said, this episode begs a further k street ep

Amy B
>>155364699

Yeah, I only got to read the first paragraph (I ain't subscribing to the NYT) but it seemed weird. I hope he doesn't turn right-wing, though it would clear up some space on my bookshelf.

Amy B
>>155346906

Boys should follow with a lengthy discourse about free parking isn't free (and It Isn't.)

Alex Washington

Bike lanes are reviled by drivers in New York as well. It depresses me so much as a cyclist.

Nick Playfair
>>155372850

In the UK boomers are basically insane with rage at anyone who rides a bike (and a lot of other things) and the "war on motorists" narrative is a favourite of the right

Nick Playfair

I don't know if you guys saw that wretched Solnit article in the Guardian but apparently Trump is all the fault of liberal columnists ex-boyfriends who never tidied up. Or maybe the barely concealed, seething contempt that the Democrats have for 95% of the US population was their undoing. Just one guy's opinion!

Kieran Duffy

Sam Harris is, of course, blaming wokeness and anti semitism for the loss. Oh well, he'll probably get over it once some more bombs fall on Gaza, that usually cheers him up.

Mid-Sized SeDan

I got hit by a car while riding my bike last week (I'm fine, just a bit of a wonky knee) so I am quickly becoming radicalized into wanting more bike infrastructure

Nick Playfair
>>155393523

I've had a lot of close passes which are pretty scary. Most of the bike lanes here are about 12 inches of road that has a painted line separating it from the road and people just park over them anyway

Alyssa Plese

In Berkeley CA, I worked on a ballot measure this past year to generate funding for roadway repaving/bike/ped safety improvements… and a coalition of old people (aka progressive Berkeley hippies) organized an opposing measure for roadway repaving, but without any safety improvements. Not just the right that hates bike lanes.

Daniel Alvarado

Urban planner here - Luke was spot on about bike lanes being the perfect target for suburban identity politics, but as other listeners have pointed out they can also be the target of liberals and even progressives under the guise of preventing loss of "neighborhood character" or causing gentrification (it doesn't, folks). Also, for the record, Vancouver and particularly Montreal are probably the two best big cities in North America for multimodal infrastructure. Its a tipping point thing, once a critical mass of infrastructure and ridership has been assembled, even the right has to admit that multimodal infrastructure makes way more sense than trying to shove more cars in to a city. Anyway, I recommend everybody read the essay "The Social Ideology of the Motorcar" by Andre Gorz for a Marxist analysis of why cars are bad.

Ciaran Colley

Imagine getting prosecuted for bootlegging this

Michael and Us
>>155364699

The piece is very much consistent with the arguments he's made in his recent books about the Democratic Party becoming a party driven by the values and interests of affluent professionals. I don't think we're liable to lose Thomas Frank. - Luke

Oliver Elliott

“You may think this is bad for our political system, but it’s the same thing they were doing in the Late Roman Republic” is certainly a take.

Johnny 5

At some point, someone needs to point out that Will’s impression of “a person from the US northeast” is a Jewish New Yorker.

Guys_Frenchy’s_Official
>>155406293

This essay can be found in Verso’s Capitalism, Socialism, Ecology and is indeed really brilliant. It’s dated, but many of the things Gorz says in his analysis are still true, like: workers in late capitalism spend an enormous amount of their wages (I think Gorz says 33%) on maintaining their cars (cost of the car, insurance, parking etc) , so a move to the suburbs immediately forces one to funnel a huge amount of earnings back into the economy. Another really good book on the subject is PM Press’s The Traffic Power structure by Swedish collective Planka.nu.