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#591 - Facts are the Center (Newsroom Part 3) (Patreon)

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In episode three of THE NEWSROOM, "The 112th Congress," Will McAvoy finally runs afoul of the people who really run the network. We discuss what Aaron Sorkin gets right about news media and the people who own it, in addition to all the things he gets wrong.

"The Revolution Will Not Be Curated" by Thomas Frank - https://thebaffler.com/salvos/revolution-not-curated-frank

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Kieran Duffy

I have only ever heard of Salute your Shorts on this podcast.

Sam Schick

I for one do not recall ever hearing “pregnant terrain of discussion” much less the term being overused in your dialogues, and I play Michael & Us bingo. Perhaps I’ve not been vigilant enough.

Cointelbro

Aaron Sorkin’s ‘The Smugroom’

Kramer O'Neill

Philip Baker Hall's presence begs the question, has Sorkin seen Secret Honor? Man his take on that must be craaazy.

Negative Affirmations

American liberals are on Xiaohongshu, posting posting the Will McAvoy "America's not the greatest country in the world... but it used to be" speech. It has 56k likes. Liberal cringe may destroy China. Xi needs to kick us off that app.

Thomas Dietzel

I just recommended this podcast to my 81 y/o mother. Will let everyone know how it goes

Kenny Hedges

Harry Reasoner was one of 60s Minutes' first hosts. Second-string Mike Wallace. It's not a deep cut or anything; it's normie American democrat journalism stuff, especially post-Good Night and Good Luck.

Chris

I’ve gotta say I kinda liked the “it’s too heavy” joke. Good delivery

Max

Starting a petition to have Luke and Will only ever play the version of the Newsroom theme with Matt Christman's vocals.

Savannakhet

I dunno if it's this episode but it's one of the early episodes where they explain Mackenzie's accent by saying that her parents were British ("her father was Thatcher's envoy") and no British people name their daughters 'Mackenzie' that's a very US-American thing, giving your daughter a Scottish surname as a first name. Especially when you already have a Scottish surname as a surname. Mackenzie McHale. Mac-mac.

Matt

Googled “Michael ray bower la fire” and found a YouTube video titled “LA FIRES SPIRACY [sic] HOUR.” Felt like I had the gist

Chris M.

Salute Your Shorts intro? I know it’s Bower time 🔥

David

I like the preemptive apology for the potential overuse of a term, and then dropping a phrase I’ve never ever heard on the show before.

Rachel L.

Would love to hear your thoughts on downton abby- movies or show- as thr creator of that series has a sort Aaron Sorokin approach to the British Monarchy. Lib lords if you will.

Chris
>>162134106

The creator of that show used to be Iain Duncan Smith's (former tory leader during the blair years) speechwriter.

Scotty Gillmer

Worth noting that it’s not just foreshadowing The Trial of the Chicago 7, Sorkin just copy-pastes the same speech into it. Tom Hayden/Eddie Redmayne goes off on Abbie Hoffman about how the New Left’s antics are going to damage the movement’s reputation for generations, using the the same language about flowers and levitating the Pentagon. I think it’s possible he wrote it first for the Chicago 7 script, that project stalled, he wrote Newsroom, then Chicago 7 started again, but either way the monologues are nearly identical

Ciaran Colley

I wonder what names are given to Will McAvoy's various dates in the scripts/credits? I hope it's something the actors themselves can refer to in IMdB

Ciaran Colley

By the way, I know the idea of a Sorkin take on Pod Save America has been floated before on this and other quality podcasts, but I wonder if it's more likely we'll see his take on late-night talk shows such as Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel etc.? Like Larry Sanders, but actually taking the dang talk show format seriously!!

Brad MacDonald

Was just reminded Dan Rather had a short run reviewing the final scene of The Newsroom on Deadspin. He wasn’t great at it.

Iain
>>162228070

It's clear that this podcast has taken its toll on my devastated psyche, as I was able to read Alexandra Pelosi's quote in her own voice.

Matthew
>>162037093

It’s a real micro-generation touchstone. It means a lot to white American suburbanites who were in elementary school in the early 90s and had cable.

Oliver Elliott

YOU HAVE MEDDLED WITH THE PRIMAL FORCES OF NATURE, MR MCAVOY

Son of El Topo

I also knew a kid who was addicted to WoW. He would go to school, work in the evening at the grocery store, then game all night. He would drink 6 or 7 energy drinks every day. He then missed an entire year of school due to developing a severe sleeping disorder where he would sleep 23 hours a day.