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#594 - Guilty Pleasures (Newsroom Part 4) (Patreon)

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Our journey through Aaron Sorkin's THE NEWSROOM arrives at Episode 4 ("I'll Try to Fix You"), in which the power of a conscientiously-run newsroom helps save Gabby Giffords' life, and Will McAvoy takes a courageous stand against gossip in all its forms. The news is overwhelmingly bad right now, so we frankly had a nice time retreating to 2012.

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Troy Thomas

You're gonna have to make the opening music for these episodes that turgid coldplay song hey

Troy Thomas
>>163299302

Actually watched this episode a week ago in prep for the boys to talk about it - did not realise it was gonna be That Episode. I remember being absolutely flabberghastered when it originally aired

Zwoozy

"Dude wrote a movie about Facebook" - Dude wrote a movie about STEVE JOBS, so what's his iPad hangup?

Kijib

the coldplay song is kinda my guilty pleasure, I’ve seen it used in multiple shows and it always manages to get me the ep of Derek it was in was prbly the best, genuinely made me so emotional

Mid-Sized SeDan

So close Luke! Bond does use a Walter PPK, video games sometimes give their guns sound-a-like names to avoid licenses. I think it happens less these days bc manufacturers use it as product placement

Dee Gee

About that goddamned tan suit: A couple years ago I happened to catch a portion of an Obama documentary (I'm pretty sure it was 2023's Yes We Can: The Barack Obama Story). Yes, it had a section on the tan suit and yes it had a couple snippets from conservatives reacting to it. (IIRC it was Limbaugh and Beck.) But even in this short and "gosh wasn't this silly" format, a couple of things stood out. One, the angry commentators were clearly riffing to fill air time. Two, among the "terrible" reactions to the incident was the Twitter hashtag #YesWeTan. Twitter was so new at the time that apparently politicos thought it was always bad to trend. Basically, above and beyond the well-trodden point that liberals puff this up as Obama's only scandal, I think there was some genuine misunderstanding of social media, as well as a bad faith case of taking conservative pundits literally.

Covey M.

The point about how low the viewership numbers for cable news is very interesting but I think there's a wrinkle here Aren't a lot of these segments later uploaded to YouTube where they have the potential to reach a much larger audience? I don't really know how much larger the audience is on the social media reuploads, and I would imagine that's difficult to calculate if they post across multiple sites

Sean Enright

I really thought this was also the episode/scene where the Sam Waterston character collapses.

Jeremy Hawkins
>>163302312

This was maybe the peak moment of apple being not only a dominant force in tech, but as a fad and smug guys from from across the spectrum had two grievances. 1. "You're lining up around the block for a freaking gizmo doo-dad that is 1% better than your old one?" 2. The ipad was very declasse as a concept "so... it's just a really big iphone? Why wouldn't I just use...*my macbook*?" Definitely wasn't only his hangup

Boru

I’m almost embarrassed by how much this episode enraged me, peaking of course at the finale, where I was practically pulling my hair out. It seems almost impossible to manufacture this level of saccharine self importance.

Troy Thomas

Probably the most ironic aspect of this episode is the unintended junxtaposition between the condescending criticisms of gossip culture, and the ridiculously shallow, immature, melodramatic love triangle now love quadrangle the show has centred as its dramatic subplot. So its okay when you do it, huh sorkin?

Dan Port

This alone is worth any Patreon cost for the year.

Gabe

Would love a compilation of all episodes where the boys disagree on a film. Just listened to the vice episode and sparks flew! 💣

Veer Sharma
>>163302312

Feels like another expression of Sorkin’s elitism and ‘might makes right’ worldview that W + L have noted. Jobs is worthy of consideration because he invented the iPhone/iPad; the subordinate masses who consume the product are not. (Disclaimer: I haven’t seen the Jobs film)

Brad MacDonald

Man I was dying for you guys to get to this one. Let’s fucking go!

Neoinean21
>>163302312

It's not a flattering portrayal of Jobs, and it's all pre-iPad. I think the guys are right that Sorkin simply hates things that are popular, bc he fancies himself an intellectual. I also think he's the type of older person who hates new things, even if they're demonstrably better for certain uses.

MeekJaybird

I thought the gabby Gifford alive/dead scene was perfect with that music. I don't want the newsroom by Fincher... I wanna see the treacly sacharine shit that only sorkin can deliver... also it was supposed to be emotional more than suspenseful... just emotional. because it was the whole team finally getting on board and working together under the yoke of Will's central premise that they're honorable newsmen (and women) who are seeking truth. and all their insignificant and annoying chattering that he has contempt for finally cohered into a segment where they got it right. proving will right. that's the only thing that matters. the big man was right.

Tyler Sutherland

The tan suit shit is made worse by the fact that liberals deploy it when they want to also assert that Obama had no scandals and did nothing wrong except wear that fucking suit. He killed god knows how many civilians overseas with American air power and death squads, hitting weddings, hospitals, entire villages, but they don't matter because they were poor, foreign, and colored.