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#596 - The Union Forever (Patreon)

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2025-02-05 20:19:13
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Paul Schrader's BLUE COLLAR (1978) follows three struggling auto workers who rob their union office and uncover a world of corruption. It's one of the great films about organized labour because it's one of the great films about solidarity. PLUS: We celebrate Canada's victory in the trade war, and check in on the politics of "Art the Clown."

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krystian bigosinski

OMG I'm so excited about this! I mentioned this movie here maybe a year ago and it was briefly mentioned on a mailbag episode, and I'm so happy it's getting the Michael and Us treatment. Honestly, this has one of the most impactful scenes of industrial violence I've seen on screen because it is so realistic, and also the shots of factory work and urban Michigan are beautiful. Can't wait to listen and thank you for all you do!

Blank

GREAT WHITE NORTH

Julia

I wonder if either Luke or Will come from a UAW household

PittyParty

Man. Another episode where i can’t listen to the entire thing because it’s about a good movie i should actually see instead of irredeemable trash. This little piggy demands his slop.

Andy

Hi there, great comments on the trade war in the intro. I work in corporate finance in the US and can assure you firsthand that the capitalist machine is already figuring any potential tariffs into the cost of goods sold & product margins, and those costs will be passed on directly to consumers.

Josh Bayer

I’ve tried to watch this movie many times over the years and have always had a hard time with it, already seeing it through the M+U lens is enriching the text . Love the pacing in the credits and the fact that Keitel’s first line is “this machines a killer, it’s giving me brain cancer”. Keitel’s ability to never ham it up and always put so little unnecessary inflection on his lines had him ranked among my favorite actors list when I was in my 20s.hes almost like water, he can fit into any space,

Michael and Us
>>163718735

We do not. But my late friend Ed Broadbent came from a family with deep ties to the UAW and we talked for countless hours about the union, about Oshawa, and about the powerfully egalitarian ethos Ed absorbed early in life thanks to autoworker unionism. He didn't really become a socialist until his 20s, but told me coming from a UAW town planted to seeds of those ideas long before he had the words to express them. That has always stayed with me. - Luke

Julia
>>163718735

Awesome. My dad was a GM worker/UAW member and the first plant he worked in was parts, the parts workers were far more radical than assembly so when they closed all parts manufacturing in the US they sent these more radical workers into assembly. They ran against defeated local leadership at the factory most of his coworkers were transferred to, then again when that factory closed....

Paul Caravello

Been waiting for the return of great white north

Chris Sherman

Great closing thought on the relevance of this film. Really enjoyed this discussion.

Kenny Hedges

Closest the Terrifier movies got to raising rightwing ire was when the third was first teased, depicting Art the Clown as Santa Claus. Silent Night, Deadly Night shit.

Phil

Take Off!

Anita Kelly

I am SO happy to hear the return of ‘great white north’. It’s like an old friend, signalling pure Canadiana.

Jeremy Hawkins

I understood what he meant when he said it, but when Will said they should have made a union in their union that's what they actually should have done in a sense. They should have done rank and file organizing to challenge the leadership. My comrades in the NALC just organized to reject a TA for the first time since 1978. Very optimistic about this. Also, when Jason Vorhees is after you, call 911!

Tasselled_Wobbegong

Art the Clown wouldn't say anything about Trump because I don't think he ever talks in the Terrifier movies? Part of his shtick is that he's like an evil mime who conveys his thoughts/emotions non-verbally (hence the mime make-up). He loves to kill people in theatrical ways, so I assume he'd kill Trump if he was set loose in the White House (sequel idea??). The actor who plays Art (David Howard Thornton) apparently cited the Marx brothers as an inspiration for how he portrayed the character, which is cool I guess? I'm curious what if any ideology the boys could mine out of those movies (I wouldn't call them "good" exactly but I respect that they're independently-funded outside of the studio system).

dbc

Not sure where to put this, but as a New Zealander, your shitting on Roger Donaldson really pisses me off. Smash Palace and Sleeping Dogs were great movies, and if you have any integrity you will acknowledge that No Way Out was a top notch thriller, and The Bank Job was a lot of fun. Species was better than almost any sci-fi movie from the era, except The Hidden.

MFD

Caught that "Take Off To the Great White North" song playing in a hospital hallway, complete with those two guys talking over it. It was very jarring.

Iain

Can we take a moment to appreciate that Jack Nitzsche soundtrack? Hearing Captain Beefheart growling about being a "hardworkinfuckinman" over factory noise really set the tone for what was to come.

Rudy

The 51st state sends Sens. Doug Ford (R-CN) and Chrystia Freedland (D-CN) to Washington

Wolf Walden

Saw this for the first time at UW-Milwaukee as the feature film of the Communist Club circa 2004. I think they intended to show the trade unions were useless and corrupt. My friend was bored with it less than half way through but I made her stay. I liked the film a lot but it was clearly anti-union in the tradition of On The Waterfront. I guess it makes sense when you consider traitors like Jimmy Hoffa who ruined the public image of trade unions. They have yet to recover from the damage corrupt asses like him caused.