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#598 - We Have Lingered In Puddles of Melted Gremlins (Patreon)

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With its Trumpian billionaire presiding over a steamrolling everything-company, Joe Dante's GREMLINS 2: THE NEW BATCH (1990) satirized the 1980s while also predicting the present day. We discuss a classic anti-Spielbergian blockbuster that wasn't. PLUS: Updates on the Canada/U.S. tariff battle, and who are the most readable conservative writers?

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Shane

Saw in the theater. Too bad the Hulkster sucks.

Sean Enright

I fondly remember being wrapped up in the monocultural moment of Godzilla 1998, but then being super disappointed with all the promises of his size by how inconsistent the monster looked.

Oliver Crane

I’m not a Kiwi (though i spent a few months in Dunedin) and probably not a film ripe for much political discussion, but Vincent Ward’s Vigil is a really lovely and atmospheric film. Later he got hired to make Alien 3 and was quickly disposed of once the studio saw his ideas. I suppose The Piano is the obvious pick but its an extremely direct movie, the symbolism is just…right there, not that that’s a bad thing necessarily.

Kieran Duffy

I loved that Godzilla film when I was a kid. Saw it in the cinema and it was later the first DVD I ever owned, when they still a strange, alien technology. However, I have no doubt it's absolutely terrible.

Kenny Hedges

I'm pretty sure it's your friend and colleague Justin who shits on Roger Donaldson regularly.

Johnny 5
>>164830681

Same! Did you remember that they changed it for the home release? I don’t remember the details, but I remember that whole destroyed film part or the ending being different on VHS.

Marshall Steinbaum

Wait you’re telling me that Luke had a lengthy discussion about William F. Buckley with Jeet Heer and neither of you has released it as a podcast episode?? Back to the content mines for you!

Phil

Sometimes I'll find myself at a weird dinner with people I mostly don't know and inevitably the "podcast guy" will ask the table what podcasts we like. Depending how the dinner is going, I'll either recommend this program as "the very best left wing arts and cinema analysis online" OR "Canada's #1 Roger Ebert" podcast

Michael and Us
>>164874933

haha I didn't record it (would have been cool to release but I can't commodify all my conversations...). Maybe we'll do a proper one for an ep at some point. It's amazing how much he knows about the history of NR. - L

dbc

Hi guys, I guess I owe you an explanation about my Donaldson rant. I had listened to two random episodes of the other Will Sloan podcast - The Important Cinema Club, and in both they had really shit on Roger Donaldson. One of those episodes was about Paul Schrader. (My favorite film maker). After coming back from work drinks, I checked patreon and your episode about Schrader's Blue Collar was up. Unfortunately I saw red, and had to give Will Sloan a rightfully deserved brickbat. Do better, and I will too.

Kramer O'Neill

That end-of-the-world commemorative video Clamp broadcasts was inspired by a project Ted Turner (allegedly) really commissioned – a collection of soothing images for the apocalypse, to be shown if and when the world went "Fail Safe". Long-rumored to exist, but confirmed copies have proved elusive. Can Michael & Us Nation find it?

Savannakhet

'Someone Else's Country' by Alister Barry is a pretty good documentary about the neo-Liberal turn in New Zealand during the eighties, comparing NZ to Chile under Pinochet. It was carried out under a Labour government but mostly directed by the NZ treasury, which like the treasury in the UK is very powerful and seems to act almost like a sort of dual-government: telling the cabinet to fuck off if it so wishes. NZ did get electoral reform and proportional representation as a result of the backlash to the reforms though, which the film sees as a sort of victory, but looking at the present make up of the NZ Parliament today, it seems to have reverted to the default two parties it had before.

Ave

Apropos of the discussion of conservative authors earlier in the show, in my house we call the brain gremlin the William F. Buckley Gremlin.

Tom

My Know Your Enemy-pilled brain was buzzing during the Buckley convo at the top. It would be interesting to hear Luke and Will go back and watch some classic eps of Firing Line, or the Buckley/Vidal debates. I feel like they shed light on how little certain kinds of political media discourse have changed, substantively if not aesthetically. I’m sure Aaron Sorkin thirsts for those days when conservatives spoke in mid-Atlantic accents and used polysyllabic words and had “real conversations” on TV.

P

I work with Leonard Maltin so I’ll have to ask him about this cameo when I see him next week!

Benjamin Miller

Is this episode really quiet compared to past episodes? I guess it could be something about my setup, but I don't think I changed anything.

Podcast subscriber 78

Great episode! Very entertaining. Having only seen the Simpson Halloween special with gremlins, I now have a better understanding of what that movie series was actually about. The point about Ebert having most probably “phoned it in” on the review also feels spot on.

Nate Hamlet

Eagerly awaiting the livestream of the boys playing the Gremlins 2 NES game

Chris Sherman

Briefly got confused and thought I was listening to RLM when Luke listed the actors who had appeared in Star Trek.

Santiago Rodriguez

The Godzilla discussion makes me think you should do an ep on Godzilla Minus One because it's interesting seeing a Marvel style of blockbuster militaristic propaganda from a country that's not the United States.