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#624 - Twilight of the Dinosaur Hour (Patreon)

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Eric The Bed Humper.

U guys are overwhelmed. It's OK to take a break from the pod.

Johnny 5

I realize that Luke is not “the film guy” but it was still a little bit difficult/cringe to hear him laugh at Will earnestly and briefly explaining the definition of hardcore vs softcore.

Worf Worfstofferson, and I'm da Venari Ral

it's surreal to hear Cleese & co harp about the repressiveness of The Woke, while the President of the United States is barring Harvard U from enrolling foreign students because the school's refused to give the federal govt control over their operations & curricula also -- and Will briefly alluded to this -- Cleese's **character's** befuddlement with transgender ppl in Life of Brian, and the attitude of **Cleese himself** are indistinguishable from one another, despite the intervening FORTY-FIVE YEARS, so it's A Bit Bloody Rich for him to pretend that this shit came flying outta left field in like 2018

piranhaplant

I just finished Jen Pan's Selling Social Justice and really enjoyed it. As Luke pointed out, it's funny that John Cleese almost stumbles his way into her critique when he observes that corporations often fall over themselves to invest in the latest DEI program while also doing everything in their power to discourage worker solidarity. I wonder how Cleese would react if he learned that there are actually many people on the left who share some of his criticisms of "wokeness."

NormalCat

people absolutely still have fax machines, this is law office erasure

JamesH

Please do not give Greg Loukianof the benefit of the doubt, they are not a force for good in the world. If Books Could Kill did a great rundown on their most recent episode. It’s on the premium feed, but you all are podcast thousandaires, right?

olly

So interesting you bring up the Oberlin story. The food at the dining halls was notoriously disgusting, which is one of the reasons so many students ate at student run food co operatives. These co cooperatives have been around since the 70s and existed (before Covid) as independent entities that offered reduced food and housing rates to students. There were about five of these food cooperatives when I was there. Students run restaurant sized industrial kitchens every day 3 times a day to feed sometimes more than 100 people, each week taking alternating cleaning and cooking shifts. If you want to talk about corporate capture take a look at President Ambar’s ruthless attempts to integrate the co operatives into the college so they could use free student labor while charging students the same price as they would the dining hall. Meanwhile we were all told that the food was bad because Oberlin offers generous merit scholarships and has higher rates of “income diversity.” Oberlin has been a punching bag for the liberal right since before the Civil War when they were the first to provide Black women with degrees alongside white men. The truth is, the college is just as economically neoliberal as Wake Forest or Princeton, we just have a cuter mascot.

Oliver Elliott

At least in the U.S. the pattern is that the older right-wing relative/friend doesn’t break off contact because what they’re really in to is the hectoring of everyone who doesn’t agree with them. Hostile disagreement is the point.

sinesynced

As somebody who works in the humanities, it's nice to hear somebody actually defending the value of universities for non-economic reasons. The only horshoe theory belief I have is that reactionaries and centrists seem to have agreed with the dirtbag left that college is cringe and we should just get rid of it, only for people on the left to turn around and tell you to read like Marx and David Graeber lol. Like we should be able to recognize that many institutions are captured by business interests without just giving up on the whole idea of the university

Paul Brewer

This had so many microaggressions against my British heritage that I'm thinking of cancelling my sub.