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"Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!" That's how you sound, and you sound really silly. You've never even had mackerel!

Please find enclosed the Patreon cut of the next video, Adobe Must Die. We're still making minor rewrites and adding finishing touches, but we're at the point where we want feedback on how it's looking so we know we're on the right track. Please let us know what you think! We're going to keep this just for patrons for a while so we can read and consider any notes you have, and get it as good as possible.

Our big focuses are adding in a lot more music and getting the pacing right in the 'how to fix this' chapter towards the end, maybe even breaking it up into two smaller, more focused ones.

We also wanna add some small parts going deeper on specific topics, like 'enshittification' and 'technofeudalism', so let us know if you feel the absence of those ideas. We also really wanna nail the language when we talk about how to organise + get change done, so tell me if you think it should be approached differently.

Cheerio!

Harry + Kat

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Whiskey_Snake

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

Flebsy

no way

Ben Rodenhurst

wow, I was here cancelling my subscription and lo and behold

Tailmonkey

Best birthday present!

Zo

Omggg

Mike

Short form content yay :)

ColdFire

There goes the rest of my "WFH" day productivity 😅

Gustav Thor

This feels a little rushed, no?

Gabriel Kenney

How dare you release this in the middle of the day (because eurotrip) when I just finished lunch and have 3 hours to kill!

Ben J.

I used to pray for times like this

No

LET'S FUCKIN GO!!!!

JulianL

Jaw dropped.

max

JOKES ON YOU HARRY I LOVE MAKREL

Mabigat

Oh god marry me please

neonoodle

OH MY GOD ITS EVERYWHERE

Lee Hinkley

It’s happening!! Everybody stay calm!!

Stephen Smith

Finally, something to share with my great grandchildren before I pass on...

noah

thank you king

ekdsc

Never thought I'd see the day!!

Schizmo

My body is ready

ben

Let's goooooo!!!!!

twigg

Looks a bit short, have you thought about making it longer 😅

Cum unenjoyer

Sure, I'll watch another 4 hour video from mr hbomber guy

dreitrix

IT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!

Lucy Loupis

Ahhhh! This is so exciting!!!! Good job on getting to this stage!

Resident DJ Precht

Just yesterday I joked about you joining a Robot-Boxing League before releasing this. I am silenced.

Alva-Loke

Hope you're doing good and taking care of yourself! Very excited for the video, will watch it asap with some mackerel

Morgan M ☁️

Club is going UP on a Tuesday fr. Thank you, Harry Kat!

niv fecher

Holly shit I'm literally watching the first hour and twenty minutes right now. Perfect timing, can't wait thank you!!

anisha neesh

i'm gonna BE SICK WITH EXCITEMENT!!

mgraziano

I needed this today

Ben J.

Happy birthday 🫡

Bryan Kooz

Oh wow, 4.5 hours?….It’s even more beautiful then I could have imagined

celet

Yesssss, mama's gone sleep well tonight

42.Computer

Wow, my productivity is really good today, thank goodness there isn't a 4 and a half hour video that will ruin..... Oh

Chrust

by god

marvhus

Holy mackerel, I am exited to watch this!

emtay

I was watching the last version of this when I got this notification 💀

Jub64

Adobe must die 🔥

Alex

Pop the champagne! 🍾 it's finally here! 🥂

Jacob Green

The Return of The King (and the rest of the fellowship who made this production possible, of course)

MC

Ladies and gents: We have arrived

MarvoMundercup

i literally whispered “oh my god” under my breath

mortran

Holy Shime Saba.

Kat

Happy birthday! We released it specifically for you!!!

Lev

LIFE IS SO WORTH LIVING

newq

D Kent

I genuinely just thought to myself “hey I wonder if there’s any update on the adobe video, I’ll have a coffee and check”. I love those odd moments. Thank you!! Watching now

transpadme

during my vacation month 😭 hoping to find time and wifi to watch soon!

Bertie J Russell

You have released this JUST as I'm about to have a travel day. I love you.

Ethan Osborn

Return of the King: Blu-Ray Extended Edition with that runtime

Thyme

My shower thought yesterday were about wondering when this would happen thank you shower for hearing my thoughts

RustNuttie

*Looks at the earth from the moon* "It's 5 hours long?" *Hbomb cocks a gun behind me* "It was always going to be 5 hours long,"

Josh

Haaaaappy Birthday mate!! :D

Kireitonsi

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

Gřegstr

Holy mackerel, it is happening!

Søren

YEAAAHHHHH

Waity5

I love godly fish

Ellen Klouman

Happy birthday! My birthday isn't until tomorrow but I will think of this video as an early birthday present 🥳

Elias Taavitsainen

O heeeelll yeah! Just got home from uni classes and open my flat door to this metal!

Dan Bryant

Why did you have to release right in the middle of my work day 😅

Riri

Compared to a Quinton Reviews video, this is a tiktok! If a tiktok was 2 hours shorter than 6 and a half hours!

Hamza Sezgin

love that you guys are embracing short form content

Erling Rostvåg

You should add an image of lord farkwhad(?) From shrek when you say its a sacrifice they were willing to make

Tezza'Ract

I'm so excited! Going to make tomorrows shift driving heavy machinery much more interesting!!

Kat

Your name is killing me

Hannah Louise

Well don't you just sound really silly!

Sean

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS

Rune Saint

I am actually thinking... -have- I ever eaten mackerel? Even if I have, not a blessed fish. Hm. Would a holy mackerel be one that swims in holy water? Would it make the water holy? So many questions!

AdamOnHook

Mackerel is one of those things I THINK I might have eaten at some point recently but I have no recollection of how it tasted. Probably fishy.

Chrispy

We are so back

Vincent J Ives

I called in sick to work today by actual genuine coincidence, my immune system knew

Hannah Louise

Does anyone know if there is any non-faff way I can watch this on my TV

Fimetaria

WHAT THE FAAAA!!!!!

toastydooks

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

sdomi

holy shit i didn't think i'd ever see this i'm so excited

Eoin Dunphy

"its a major time investment too" -Harry, talking about something other than his own videos, hilariously

Steven

Holy cod!! I thought this would never happen. (I was Catholic and thus have had cod checkmate atheist (I probably am one now))

Alex

Same for me! Happy birthday!! ❤️❤️

vibii

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

Thomas Rymer

I've had tons of mackerel actually.

Moira

HELL YEAHHH

Nica

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

Vanawolfy

Hbomberguy? On my day off? What a treat!

Pavasaris

Back with the banger that's going to be on repeat for the next 3 years I see

Кіберлєра

Wrong! "FUCK. YEAH!" – this is how I sound right now, don't know about you.

Connor Perez

HAHA JOKES ON YOU SOFTWARE IS MY CURRENT HYPERFIXATION YOU CANNOT DISINTEREST MEEEEE

Retrotainment

Two days shy of my 40th, which we all know is the enshittification birthday.

ST-HUGS

The ungodly excited noise i made when I saw this pop up in my emails was truly something

quack

Four and a half hours 💀

Ella Bar

Good heavens! We're all proud of you HBombyguy!

Pannylinn

i know what i'm gonna be doing for the next 4 and a half hours

Daniel Berryman

I'm an Elder Scrolls guy, this was downright brisk

Max D

finally, peak youtube essaying

Milo Minton

21:10 hay some weird artifacting and glitching here not sure what causes this kind of stuff but thought id point it out :3

Theclickbaitknight

DEAR LORD ITS REAL I'M SO GLAD I STAYED UP TILL 4AM, I'M NOW GOING TO STAY UP ANOTHER 4 HOURS

George

Thanks for sharing! So happy this is here and you took the time to finish it. Posting before my watch, so will add feedback later. Big love to you and Kat

Kemi Stanton

Happy birthday!! Mines on Friday but I still count this as an early gift 😌

Zuzanna K.

Oof thank god, I was actually about to start working when I saw the notification

Elleden

Having watched the 90-minute version (way too) many times, hearing the new lines is so weird.

Kemi Stanton

As a song of ice and fire fan this was NOTHING

Annoyance

17:00 ish just a small thing and i may have missed that it's a joke, but factor owns hello fresh. and in my opinion factor started doing more sponsorships instead of hello fresh bc they were having some controversies over union busting. the factor facility near me also got in trouble for using illegal child labor a while back too.

Milo Minton

youll probably get into this later but rn at 25:40 im just genuinely wondering what adobe gains from not making actual tutorials. wouldn't it be better if they showed how much you can actually do with their programs? and like they can still throw in the more "add" kind of stuff like the noise reduction slider!

jpVari

Who became a wedding photographer

cryptid-jack

Oh my GOOOOOD the 15 hour wait until I can sit and watch are gonna be TORTURE

PANcakes!!

the one day i don’t have work this week, can’t believe you uploaded specifically for me

Thyme

It is kinda funny how the first video made in the US of A features so many more guns

solitbee

Varoufakis is featured in the latest jacobin where he defends his coined term "technofeudalism" so I would look at that as well.

Rosie

I've never even had mackerel!

Jan Röckemann

Did you use the noise reduction filter for the outdoor monologue section at 28:10? The audio seems to go from outdoors to studio quality and back but you stay in the same location.

Andy McAllister

At 33:20 there's some compression glitching. Not sure if that's in the source footage or happened on your end. Anyway, loving the video so far.

DedicatedSideA

we used to pray for times like this edit: just seen the run time, i think i’ll die

Sondronism

This video topic feels so cathartic to me because I'm currently studying to become a comic artist and I've learned that I have no choice but to own and use adobe software while it steals the work of artists just like me for a shitty ai. A lot of artists feel the same way where we want to be free of the adobe prison because its software isn't really made for us, but it's the "industry standard" that employers feel like they have to pay for so the monopoly persists

Rpg Artist

That wedding photogapher joke got me so hard lol

Alex Bryson

Kingdom hearts fan reporting in

Aurora H.

I literally just woke up to this. 7 am, a new day in the usa

Alexey

Good job. Hopefully Kat is better.

Ellie Rohleder

The way this dropped just as InDesign shut down, taking the last hour of my work with it

Annoyance

also in my opinion and what I've heard from a previous employee uhhh you don't wanna eat the food it's gross lmao

Fratila

you're fcked in the head for 56:15 LOL

kat + ryn

Omg! Birthday buds, the preview came out on our birthday also. We are lucky peeps

ExperimentalDud

I loved the nod to Blaire with "Tricky Dick" that was beautiful

Andy G

Holy Mackerel I'm clearing out my schedule for the day!

Sam

Husband and I had a bet going on if this video would be released into the wild before our baby is born in December.

Cas_With_Class

I can’t wait to watch this in one sitting!

max

Absolutly love the Blair quote

Mishk97

YES! 4.5 hrs here we fucking go!

Sophie Kirschner

I have found yt-dlp plus Plex to be a pretty reliable wombo combo for escaping from Patreon's annoying video player, including for exclusives. (If you do that though, please be a pal and keep the downloaded files to yourself.)

ByYourCommandIGuess

At 13 minutes and twenty secondsish in, the adobe logo expanding to fill the camera feels a little weird, like I can't really register the full logo as the adobe one. Maybe have it start smaller and show up sooner, so it expands a little slower? I'm not done yet so I'm not gonna say "This's so amazing" yet, but we all know I will, lol. Edit: FUN FACT! You can still buy perpetual licenses of Substance Painter and Designer! Through Steam! That's right, you can buy your work tool and "own" it through a *games* provider!! HOORAYYY

Mobius Scarf

How did you know I've never had mackerel?

Andrea Cervantes

You can finally go home, jfc my guy you did it.

herb

Truly yippeemaxxing on this Tuesday

Hannah Anthonia

No wonder editing was causing physical damage, good lord. May hbomb wrists recover. It is census night in Australia-every 5 years we fill out the forms-and I literally made a small party of goth nerds assembled for mutual support for the dealing with important bureaucracy gasp with one waving for silence when I said I had hbomb news. Which was an excited gambit to have someone to tell, like the one person who I thought might be interested but then... more than one person was. So thanks hbomberguy and Kat for making the best census night party. If you don't know how weird census night already is there are skits on youtube about filling it out in inappropriate places (you need to add the details of everyone in the building with you since it is a snapshot of the nation so some comedians have done it during Shakespeare-just wandered up to the stage with the forms held put and actors frozen because it is census night and the forms must be filled out) and being able to show off a patreon subscription like a newborn baby-except with more cooing-really made it extra silly and fun

Jett

Why did you say Laissez Faire like that, am I missing a joke

Paul M

For some reason I just had a feeling when I tapped that little Patreon icon today. Must be my bald head tingling in unison. Here we fucking gooooo.

Birdie

Thank you for making my day better :)

Piotr Torka-Lis

Holy mackerel, I thought this would never happen!

Kat

I am, thank you :)

Peter Davidson

Damn, that's a new record for video length! Congrats, looking forward to watching it, the teaser vid was a banger 🎉

Tomasz Inn

I was losing hope at times but i never stopped giving my guy womeyyyy what a blessed day

Kimpractical

"We also want to add..." can't wait for the release next year

Simon

if you have a mac/iphone/ipad and an apple tv... or you could just hook up the mac. or laptop.

Montgomery Lee

this is great timing because im currently in the process of trying to get adobe to stop fucking over the company i work for by not allowing us to use the software we literally *paid to use*

Osnyg

At 40:15, thereabouts, silly detail: you say ”tech writers” presumably to refer to journalists. A technical writer writes manuals and documentation (and quite a few of them have surely seen the wrong end of these killer aqusitions).

Lee Anderson

I have a sudden craving for a can of Monster Juiced Viking Berry...

Simon

Me, getting the notification while at a dinner and having already filled the census in, am now writing while drinking to the vid. Godspeed ND goths.

William Walsh

If you have a streaming stick (Roku, chrome cast, Amazon fire stick, etc, as well as most smart TVs [ones with built in apps]), you can cast to the tv via those devices as long as they’re on the same WiFi network. The button for it in my Patreon video player is in the top right row of icons, furthest to the left (iPhone for reference). For me it’s just a click of a button and a tv/device that’s turned on. Your phone/devices may vary but it shouldn’t be a hard Google if you can’t find airplay/cast options on your phone/tablet right away. Another easy option (but it costs a little money and a trip to an electronics or office store/order online) is to pick up an hdmi to [your phone’s charging cable name] adapter. So if your phone charges with a lightning cable, you’d look for an hdmi to lightning adapter. If it’s a usb-c then look for a usb-c to hdmi adapter. It lets you plug your phone into the tv and mirrors your screen onto the tv. Should be ~$20 US. But a worthwhile tool to have around. Especially if you have to travel often and are stuck using hotel TVs and are at the mercy of whatever viewing options they provide. Good luck!

J-GEKKO

As a Baldur’s Gate fan, this is essentially instant

RazielMartelus96

I beg people let me get the Davinci Resolve Studio Code. Im on Linux and I need those sweet sweet Codecs 😭🤣 UPDATE: I FRICKING GOT IT! SECOND UPDATE: The key can be automatically reset once a week so I will lose the license end of the week moment someone tries to use it on a new PC 😭

Rin's supercool patreon

Good video, I really liked it. However, I find the part where you talk about Borg's later life and his shift towards blaming minorities a little naive. The video says "...borg couldnt complain about the system so he spent his days ignorantly blaming minorities and..." but I find it obvious from both his modus operandi and the one of his far right legislator succesors, including his son, that the plan always was to get the power in the hands of the rich through methods like this and then keep it there precisely by controlling the discourse in media and targeting minorities as scapegoats. I know this isnt even remotely the point of the vide but I think it paints a better picture of why Borg and company did this.

Installation Wizard

You did not, in fact, remember to put the link in this description

Lee Anderson

What video/meme was he referencing with the "and there's Tricky Dick. The Watergate man himself" bit?! It's driving me crazy...

Giant Squid of Anger

In true hbomh fashion, when I watched the first 35min of this I was trying to get pregnant, I gave birth last weekend...

Ari aͣrͬiͥaͣrͬiͥaͣrͬiͥaͣrͬiͥaͣrͬiͥ

This may just be me, but I'm noticing some changes in line delivery from this video to the rough cut preview posted last year. That's fun, I like seeing small things change as the project progresses heart emoji

Simon

Good lord! A Jesus Fish! RE seeking feedback, I can see enshittification and technofuedalism becoming their own rabbit warrens. I would make two different video on h burgerguy as throwaway "quick" videos with some interviews. Those of us who follow those topics + effective altruism (there's another fucking silicon valley death loop) know enough there isn't a lot of context you can add that the interested won't be aware of and there's too much for people who don't. Get an interview with someone like Ed Zitron or Corey Doctorow and have them explain it and expand on complicated parts as needed. I've only just started the video and I am enjoying the changes from the preview in part one. as it progresses I will make more notes. Godspeed little doodle.

Syape Productions

I used fireworks in high school because ig they didn't want to pay for photoshop and to this day I still miss it. It is still the only image editor that I've actually enjoyed using.

Matthew Squires

I’m torn. I’ve waited for years for the next Hbomb vid, and part of me wants to wait for the finished product… should I watch??

TopchetoEU

shortflation is getting outta hand...

William Walsh

My opinion would be that they probably just don’t care if it’s useful to serious users. In fact, if they showed tutorials that require genuine learning and process rather than “just click this one button,” or “check out this easy slider,” then it would be counter to their ad strategy. They want it to look easy to someone who doesn’t know. So that 16 year old who wants to be a streamer sees it and goes, “oh just a couple clicks here and there and I’m a video editor?” If they showed something technical and involved, less people would pay. Which is what they want. Your money. Once you pay for adobe, you’re on their subscription model. Once you’re on their subscription, they don’t care if you use it once. They’d just as soon prefer you never open it and forget that you paid for the monthly fee and stay paying them for nothing at all. If you are a serious user, their take is probably, “what, like you’re not going to use Adobe in your editing process? Okay.” Real tutorials would be, to them, gratuitous. They’ve already got you. You’re no longer being wooed. They’d be spending money on someone they’ve already snatched up. To their thinking, there’s no additional money in it. So their advertising is spent to entice the lowest common denominator whose money they don’t already have.

OfficialSumbuco

Nice! I'll take a break from watching Hbomberguy and watch this new video!

Jessica Meats

I rewatched one of your older videos and there was a comment at the end about "I'm never going to make a video this long again." I can't remember the exact runtime of that video, but I think it was under an hour.

Fill3rup_

It's illuminauti's attempt to write her own voiceover from the plagerism video.

Matt Killmon

I almost commented that I thought you had a picture of William Tecumseh Sherman instead of Senator John Sherman in the section about the Sherman Antitrust Act, but then I looked it up and that’s how I learned THEY WERE BROTHERS!

Yani Kapitanov

Oh my God! Okay, it's happening... stay calm

Otakutea

happy birthday all!!

Conan Denz

Hey this is probably me being nitpicky but twice within the first hour, you use "psychotic" to mean wild or stupid. As someone who deals with psychosis its a bit disheartening to hear these people who know they're wrong and are sound of mind in making terrible decisions be called psychotic, even though you're using it in the cultural way and not the medical way. imo i'd prefer it if it was substituted for smth like "wild" or wacky or stupid, but it would be better to hear what other people who have psychosis have to say and get a consensus

Hannah Bo Banna

My education has become very prestigious all of a sudden and my fandom has intensified as we went to the same rubbish school < 3

Nova

My work uses Adobe for a lot of stuff and it suddenly stopped working at all for me and was trying to make me pay a subscription just to open a pdf in Adobe. Also I have literally never seen an Adobe ad until this video so I take that as a win

Paweł Krupiński

No private YouTube link? How am I supposed to steal and share it with all my friends? 😔

Patrick

FINALLY OH MY FUCK ITS HERE

Simon

I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but I can see the sunscreen on h bummerguyfawks' head in the outside Temecula shots. please address humorously or fix.

Ash

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Neopets.

Ash Gabrielle

Joke's on you, I eat mackerel all the time! It's really good!

Colin Tougas

Who else is having a "sick" day watching this?

moon jellyfish

cheering screaming throwing up etc. i cannot wait to watch this!!!!!!!!

Jasmine Czerwik

"Here's a video about software, this is your final test!" Joke's on you, bitching about software is my favourite thing (yes I am a software engineer how could you tell?) EDIT: Okay I'm at the end, yes please keep pushing FOSS. This has also finally inspired me to look at swapping to Emacs to replace VS Code in my personal workflow (I'm still kind of stuck on .Net but also that is also Open Source now) EDIT EDIT: Also thank you for confusing my girlfriend so that I got to introduce her to The Town With No Name

Cuzn Ed

Oh my giddy aunt (a delightful expression that i’ve definitely always used and didn’t just learn in this video)! Newish Himboguy content!

Kat

Oh they’re going to be minimal additions, like a paragraph or two each, just so those words aren’t thrown out without explanation. Basically, I think there are enough interviews with Cory and Ed out there (hundreds, probably) and our goal is more to create differently digestible ways of introducing those ideas. I WOULD love to do an EA video at some point, I’m morbidly obsessed with TESCRAEL as a topic!

Ray Kachel

just preying it doesn't end with a cliffhanger.

Kat

CONGRATULATIONS

odette

thank you

Kite

1:19:32 sniped me, god damnit

Nova

Yeah im using the cast option to my LGTV (dont buy an LG, it spies on you)

RazielMartelus96

You have no idea how much this means. The free version of Resolve is great, but significantly hindered on Linux due to missing codecs only the Studio version has. This has quite literally removed the biggest headache I had in video editing! 🥳 Thank you Kat.... "I love you" 🤣

Colin Tougas

Oh yeah, today was really "sick" *air guitar audio file plays*

herb

It's like my pawpaw in the old country always said, fuck adobe, all my homies hate adobe

Simon

Totally fair. It’s just such a rich vein to mine and affects a depressing amount of the world. I have a neighbour I talk to fairly regularly that’s in one of the FB groups where SV people talk about EA. SV is basically a cult these days with their own prophets. Cory and Ed are just such good sources on it too. Also thanks for the new "Everyone wants to reinvent Plato's Republic from first principles" example.

Am1vf

Just this past weekend a friend asked me if you were still showing signs of life or the Adobe kill squad got you. :D

odette

Been thinking abt this since you announced it but, is Youtube gonna make a fuss about the title?

Simon

Minor nitpick: Bork and by association Friedman were funded by the old oligarchs who had their power broken under FDR (these same oligarch also tried to ferment a fascist take over using Smedley Butler as a figurehead) and decided to do a culture victory path by funding what we would call neoliberal/supply side economics and originalist interpretations of laws through grants to universities for sympathetic students to study and be academics under BS groups. Sorry, minor but it's been going on so long. Where I live we have the Ramsey Centre for Western Studies, funded by a grant from a dead conservative catholic businessman who's trying to pull the same BS in Australia.

al

Tiny thing, in the Brainmind Residency bit the subject of “they” switches in a way that took me a second to parse. “Found themselves relying on tools which could be changed without notice by the mega corporations that controlled them. It’s their world now, we just live in it”

Atdum

Just wanted to say the ADR around 28:20 is a bit jarring with the on-location audio on both ends of it, maybe a good spot for a graphic insert?

River Onei

Sooo excited to watch!!😃 Was filled with delight when I saw we have over four hours of this goodness to enjoy!! Congrats Hbomb and team!

Philip Hickey

Currently bootlegging this on my vhs rig

Melissa Harris

Lol the "you suck at Photoshop" vids inclusion... Can't wait to be distracted from my entire life to watch this one!

Morgast

(To my non-existent secretary) Cancel all my plans for the day, something just came up...

Charlie Atkinson

There is a typo in the Bork parts where there is text that says "While wrote the fucking thing" I believe. Great vid so.far

Adam Hirst

1:38:10 You sure you want to call it "steal" here? You really sure?

lostsheep

Loving the video so far, alas this is the second draft video after your deus ex video with some Montreal side eye. 😔 sad English man has yet to embrace Quebecs potato frying supremacy

Minerva Comfort

Is there supposed to be a sound effect at 50:05 or just a visual gag?

Thyme

OK i reached the Pro Tools part EVERYONE LEARN REAPER its amazing and cheap and not evil

Adulty Ness

Yay! I can finally forgive you AND enjoy my work day!

Keyford

I think when factor first started advertising they were front and centre that it was owned by hello fresh as a marketing point I honestly think it's more likely that hello fresh ran out of customers, enough people tried the introductory offers, then realised it's really fucking expensive and fairly mid, so they pivoted to pre made food instead Side note, check your local grocery store for ready meals, they probably have a much wider selection both in terms of Verity and quality and price, and you don't have to sign up for a fucking subscription

Martin Lord

Move aside every other video in my queue, the Bomb has dropped.

Ezra H.

I'm a Technoblade fan you guys are weak

kevin mai

the only productive piece of input i have is that the previous version's "...nay?" in the beginning worked better than "who says nay?", in my humblest of opinions. thank you for your attention to this matter, and thank you for the video

MonsieurDaz

Hbomb is doing YouTube shorts now?

moon jellyfish

gave birth to a beautiful soyboy… an hbombbaby <3

sand_pest

Harry/Kat, any chance of a YouTube link please? I like to watch these on my TV via the YouTube app.

Justin Shaw

Just a heads up - Fender recently acquired PreSonus turning Studio One into Fender Studio Pro and is leaning heavily into a subscription model. You can still buy a perpetual license (for now) and you get the next 12 months of updates with it, but I have a sinking feeling that's going out the window soon enough.

Thebestoflads

Awesome video, I'm depressed now

chiknnoodl

Today is my birthday! Thank you bomb guy!!!

Tess Tobias

I guess the research was done on the flash player trains

Allison Star

"Sibelius, one of THE top music notation softwares!" As someone who's been composing music on computers for almost 25 years, Sibelius is only one of the top programs because EVERY MUSIC NOTATION SOFTWARE IS BAD!

Cal Hemingway

Thank you very much for the DaVinci Resolve Studio Key! I activated and will be using it to make marketing materials for my projects <3 <3

Devis613

This is what I pay the internet and patrion for

Hbomb

I recorded with a boom and a wireless lav, and because of wind i had to swap between them sometimes, and mastered them both as best i can. i'll keep messing with it!

SadWhiteOnion

The Return of the King 🎉 holy mackerl

StevenW

In partnership with Adobe I'd just like to say I'm enjoying this video.

Finnamin

Uploading this the day I’ve got an eight hour flight and time to kill was just perfect timing, thank you 🎉

Sally Berry

I hope you and Baby are doing well!

Nolder55

I look forward to seeing the dip in adobe stock value after you post this fully

Chase the Chao

2 hours in and my blood pressure is raised. Good job!

TopchetoEU

Holy hell! A Captain D cameo? IN THIS ECONOMY?!?!?!?!

Ombremonde

I've watched one hour and a half but I'll post a comment before I forget. Sorry if what I'm talking about is answered later in the video. The reason why Adobe acquired Flash is not clear to me. I don't believe it was a direct competitor to any Adobe software. Afaik Illustrator didn't have animation tools, Premiere and AE were bitmap only, and Photoshop was bitmap only and didn't have animation tools at the time. Did Adobe simply acquire anything related to computer graphic? I believe they still tried to maintain it for a couple of years after acquisition. The time of death of 2021 seems very recent to me, I was sure it died a decade earlier. I think Flash had multiple tools that made it very useful but they didn't die all at the same time. What died first iirc were the flash browser plugin. Flash unique capability was to export games and animations as self-contained interractive flash program that only worked thanks to browser plugins that everyone used but slowly became obsolete over a decade or so, probably because Adobe pivoted to 2D animation tool only and ignored the interractive container part. Afaik ir has been mainly replaced by HTML5, but it's not the same imo Another tool that made Flash very popular was vector interpolation. It's a tool that's super useful when making inbetween frames for 2D animation. It was widely used in cartoons and video game animated sprites. Unlike bitmap interpolation, it often gave a really good result and once the frames were created you could go back and edit the lines yourself (it supported layers so you could interpolate the lineart layer then manually edit the colour flat yourself). This took a much longer time to die and 2020 seems accurate to me. I believe Spine and SynFig are alternative software that do that. And a third tool would be 2d pupetting, however I believe Adobe added that in the early 2010 by copying competitors. Tools like ToonBoom are specialised in this. Lastly, maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't say learning action script is useless. Afaik it was based on JavaScript and was very close to it, tho JS might have changed a lot since the last time I used Flash in 2009 or so.

SpeedyTofu

Awesome, however, I will NOT forgive slandering monster!! >:3

Spencer Uli

Oh my god. My dad actually came back with the milk

Roman Pres

Only 2 hours in, I have to unfortunately go to work like a chud. Laughed my ass off at the tricky dick joke, brilliant

Nolder55

1:49:33 that joke aged like fine wine

TheSimpleStickman

Turned 18 three days ago, this is a great belated present to add on my Lego UP House set.

Dino

Oh man. Can't wait to listen to this a countless amount of times.

AJ

just a small correction to your correction: hellofresh actually owns factor. i also may have missed what the joke is here, maybe it's that they're essentially the same or it's about the child labor (but that still happened under hello fresh's ownership)? but yeah i also thought this immediately and came to the comments to see if anyone could enlighten me

Rebootcomputa

This video makes me appreciate how good Blender is and open source solutions..

Victoria Borges

There's an audio glitch at about 1:05:00, when hbomb says "in 1974". I think it skipped a few words!

Amidamaru44

Yay a part about glasses!

Anamenti

(1hr 47ish) I assume the Adobe price difference in UK vs USD is mostly the "23%" addition for digital VAT, along with conversion variation. Apparently the 3% extra over the UKs 20% VAT is due to them processing the fees through Ireland, or it might now be to do with the digital sales tax that the company pay their end though I don't know enough of how that works. It's an extra 2% or such though apparently. Idk how much that matters to the video really, especially as their predatory price practices generally which are highlighted in the segment are far more concerning than these kinds of differences which in isolation would just be corporate noise. I just noticed how close to a 20somthing percent it was and figured it was probably tax related somehow so looked into it a bit... Also I'm not drawing Fury's on a second screen, how dare you! No, I'm painting Geralt in a sketch book. <.<

marn

2:37:16 tiniest nitpick ever but 'many of the stuff' sounds a little off

TheSliferSlacker

The avid section was painfully relatable for me and my wasted years in film classes in college

uh

It's not furry porn! I'm just drawing a regular comic! Don't try to act like you know me, we are not friends!

Jan Röckemann

Ah, I thought it was a deliberate choice because you just mentioned it. Otherwise I might not have noticed.

Erk

My birthday is in January so by hbomb standards this is pretty on time.

Grazio Roberts

I don’t really get the analogy around 1:24 in the video. What’s a horse and why are we talking about its mouth?

Please enter your name

R.I.P. Henry Bobberguy. He is survived by Keir Starmer, who resigned prior to the release of this video

AJ

after plagiarism and you(tube), james somerton genuinely did fake his death and then later rebranded as a wedding photographer (with some plagiarized photos/undisclosed stock photos in his portfolio, if i recall correctly, which i'm not going to check the accuracy of because i am trying not to give him any attention).

Shelby Fawn

hell yes. I’m going to use this comment to reply with thoughts as they come up.

AJ

congrats!

Edward J Fascio-Burke

Did... Did Harry just acknowledge the existence of horses?!?!?!?!111 My works no longer makes sense.

Please enter your name

I was silently shouting "FOSS!!" at the screen all throughout the video and only at the end did I get closure

thatgreenfur

I just knew that rewatching the first 1hr20m video two days ago would make this get released immediately after lmao

DonniJ

Based on the public information do we know Somerton faked his own death? I thought what we know is the concerning tweet and the news he was still alive a few days later? Do we know he wasn't suicidal? Just asking due to Harry referencing it early in the video.

Matt Bowen

Calling out Nine Inch Nails' "Big Man with a Gun" is incredibly ironic, since Trent wrote it as a mocking response to gangster rap...

Simon

Printers are an evil alien technology that corrupts all that replicate them. Hewlett-Packard is now lost to us and brother is on its way.

Melissa Mueller

Wait.... is this where the verb "to bork" comes from?! As in to completely screw something up?!?!

newq

1:31:29 OMG it's Big Money Salvia Erik!!!

Lord Iro

Bro knew it was my birthday and DELIVERED 🙏🏾

Alyx Evans

Oh lord the Cricut thing sounds exactly like the trajectory Bambu Lab is taking with 3D printing, but thank god they were lazy and only reskinned some other slicer software which is open source and obliges modified versions to be open source too.

Trevor Blackwell

This video was promised to me by God 3000 years ago

Sirpunksalot

I miss the old “You don’t know me” green screen reveal

newq

Adobe-related reminder to all Homestuck fans that there's a thing called the Unofficial Homestuck Collection that allows you to still read it in all its Flashy glory.

AJ

27:33 gets me every time

Finley (edited)

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2026-09-05 04:00 Personally around 2:44:20ish, the joke calling the Pelaton a 'baby shredder', while funny, also kind of disturbed me? Especially given that you'd just mentioned a child had died, it felt unnecessarily graphic and disrespectful moreso than it felt funny. This could just be me, but it's the only time I've felt something like that watching your videos so I felt it might be worth expressing.
2026-08-11 14:39

Shield-Theyden

Aww. I liked the old delivery of the "green screen" gag.

llynxfyremusic

the comments about reaper make me feel both isolated and a special boy because I do know and have used reaper for a long time. how did you do that? I switched to bitwig a while ago

Tom Hanson

The dialogue that starts at 28:01 is very obvious ADR, which is clearly not a huge problem, but it's quite stark when contrasted against the audio from the previous scene. There's a small bump in volume and it's more compressed... not sure what to do about this since I'm not an audio engineer, or even if it's worth fixing, sorry!

Milo Minton

2:48:36 i really like the video so far btw and this is supposed to make fun of the people who use "females" to talk about women and are pedantic about how to pronounce things. but i dont think the joke lands well enough. not sure how to fix that tho

Hannah Bo Banna

1:52:50, as a 3D modeller who works in animation, I genuinely believe the most valuable reason to study a creative degree, is the licenses and equipment. In an industry where trying out a specialism to see if you even like it can cost hundreds in licenses just for a month, not to mention the computer power and drawing tablets, boy there's another tangent, having access to it with people who can usually guide you and a community all learning together is very valuable. That being said YouTube was my real teacher filling in gaps as yes, the version of Maya my lecturer used when he was in the industry was very different, Substance painter and Zbrush weren't used when he was working and that's not his fault, but when you leave uni with £70k loan debt I guess the licenses don't sound so expensive. But they were good at warning us about software disappearing and therefore being flexible, emphasising transferable skills as the software you can spend years mastering could be bought or replaced at the drop of a hat and there's nothing you can do about it. Our heroes at Blender are leaving autodesk/adobe shaking in their big gold boots as studios and start ups are proving that you can make equally beautiful media without the price tag, meaning they can actually afford to employ us again, hooray! (sorry last comment I promise) :p

It’sCamille

Seeing that AVID keyboard activated my fight or flight response.

Milo Minton

2:51:44 idk if its still like this now but back when i still had a really bad laptop and was trying to run genshin on it i tried geforce now. there was a free obtion where u could play for an hour for the low cost of having to wait in a queue for a unlimited amount of time least amount i ever had to wait was 30 mins most was 2 hours i think. also! you have to own the games to be able to play them! tho thats not that shocking.

LittleWeevil

I know it's not really the point of the video but I always feel like pointing out a couple software alternatives that seem to go unnoticed, like 3DCoat Textura and Marmoset Toolbag for texture painting. If you do mention these or are already aware of them and decided they just weren't relevant, I'll take a few lashings it's ok.

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2026-09-05 04:00 You mentioned Bork before you properly introduced him as an offhand joke, I thought nothing of it but looking back you definitely tried to reference something you hadn't explained yet.
2026-08-11 14:55 You mentioned Bork before you properly introduced him as an offhand joke, I thought nothing of it but looking back you definitely tried to reference something you hadn't explained yet. Also techno-feudalism being more deeply explained would be much appreciated.

You mentioned Bork before you properly introduced him as an offhand joke, I thought nothing of it but looking back you definitely tried to reference something you hadn't explained yet. Also techno-feudalism being more deeply explained would be much appreciated.

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2026-09-05 04:00 First of all, notes about CSP. Now, I know the point you're trying to make, but I KNOW people are going to ding you on this if you don't make it clear. The prices you are showing are if you purchase it brand new, for those that already own the product, there are UPGRADE prices that are not the same as the purchase brand new costs. (This comes with the caveat that when you upgrade your license, you do not have access to the previous version.)
2026-08-11 14:56 First of all, notes about CSP pricing. I know the point you're trying to make with the jumps in cost per year, but I KNOW people are going to ding you on this if you don't make it clear. The prices you are showing are if you purchase it brand new, for those that already own the product, there are UPGRADE prices that are not the same as the purchase brand new costs. (This comes with the caveat that when you upgrade your license, you do not have access to the previous version.) For example, I upgrade my EX version from 4 - 5 for $57.99 (because they have a sale every upgrade, otherwise it would have been $63.00) That being said, this upgrade cost has been going up every year, it was $46.19 to upgrade in 2024, and $39.99 in 2023 (I am somehow missing my 2025 receipt) I also think it's a bit disingenuous to show the OG CSP 25$ CSP price and then jump cut to the EX price. (2:22:40 ) CSP went from 25 > 50 > 63$. EX went from 219 > 277$ (I'm not stating this to try to claim its 'not so bad' I'm only providing details for caveats that might need to be made in the video because I KNOW it's going to be pointed out on YT) I am going to contrast this to another application, openCanvas, which I have been purchasing for years, and their upgrade plans permitted me access to all the previous version of open canvas, so I still have means to install and download key for openCanvas 3, 4, and 7. So the fact that CSP cuts me off from my previous versions when I upgrade is, to say the least, a disappointment. FYI, the people that make openCanvas are also known for making Fire Alpaca.

First of all, notes about CSP pricing. I know the point you're trying to make with the jumps in cost per year, but I KNOW people are going to ding you on this if you don't make it clear. The prices you are showing are if you purchase it brand new, for those that already own the product, there are UPGRADE prices that are not the same as the purchase brand new costs. (This comes with the caveat that when you upgrade your license, you do not have access to the previous version.) For example, I upgrade my EX version from 4 - 5 for $57.99 (because they have a sale every upgrade, otherwise it would have been $63.00) That being said, this upgrade cost has been going up every year, it was $46.19 to upgrade in 2024, and $39.99 in 2023 (I am somehow missing my 2025 receipt) I also think it's a bit disingenuous to show the OG CSP 25$ CSP price and then jump cut to the EX price. (2:22:40 ) CSP went from 25 > 50 > 63$. EX went from 219 > 277$ (I'm not stating this to try to claim its 'not so bad' I'm only providing details for caveats that might need to be made in the video because I KNOW it's going to be pointed out on YT) I am going to contrast this to another application, openCanvas, which I have been purchasing for years, and their upgrade plans permitted me access to all the previous version of open canvas, so I still have means to install and download key for openCanvas 3, 4, and 7. So the fact that CSP cuts me off from my previous versions when I upgrade is, to say the least, a disappointment. FYI, the people that make openCanvas are also known for making Fire Alpaca.

Fermoselle

this may be minor, and I haven't finished the video, but I get the feeling that the intro makes it feel like Flash *invented* vector graphics. I'm not saying you directly say that because you didn't but I feel that if I didn't already know what vector graphics are I would think that before flash all we had was raster. I wouldn't pay attention to this unless more people point this out or agree with me, if not please dismiss this I think its a part that's been locked for a while so It would probably bee to annoying to modify it for such a small note, so unless you find a very easy way to fix it I would leave it as is. and also raster is cool and easier to fill leaving no gaps and prettier so fuck you with your vector propaganda (I'm just joking, I do prefer raster but that part of the video is fine)

Joseph Catrambone

Sneaking up on the list of longest running films. If you cross 5hr 14min you'll beat "Fanny and Alexander", and who doesn't want to beat a fanny now and then?

Hrishi Venkatesh

Mudbox is being discontinued. There will no longer be a choice between it and ZBrush come November.

Quitpayload

I don't exactly know why, but it makes me so childishly happy to hear you take potshots at Thunderf00t

AdamOnHook

The previous version definitely did a little bit, but that was very unfinished. This version feels very close to a final product with editing that is more engaging to eatch, mostly missing music throughout

Carefree Courtney

Great work! Just finished and looking forward to watching it again when it premieres on yt!

Sebastian Ward-Chadwick

I'm going to watch this once to enjoy it, and then a second time to learn from it.

Matt Killmon

Flash was actually a piece of shit software though. I mean, both things can be true: it enabled a lot of people to get started with animation and software development, and it was also an inefficient security nightmare that needed to die.

AdamOnHook

It sounds like you would be more satisfied if you wait until the final product. There are plenty of people giving feedback already lmao

BigT

Thank you for finally talking about music notation software. I’ve never heard anyone talk about how much of a mess it has been, and it is very validating. I am a professional copyist and arranger, and I spent over 5 years learning Finale just for them to discontinue it and decide to never update or preserve it again. Every software is extremely different and has long, difficult learning curves, and Sibelius is unfortunately not the only one that has experienced meddling from a corporate side.

AdamOnHook

This feels important to acknowledge. I hope he takes this into consideration

Skyhon

I have a 5 hour train ride today and I was wondering what I’d be doing during that time. Looks like I know now

Neil P

As far as I remember, no. It was just a dumb misspelling of "broke" that caught on. Fun coincidence though.

Paulrubens

amazing video. I love the continuation of the "green screen" running gag. > We also wanna add some small parts going deeper on specific topics, like 'enshittification' and 'technofeudalism', so let us know if you feel the absence of those ideas. Imho, a small part for enshittification would be appreciated.

rusty mint

They technically do 3 different things.

MicrowaveOvens

As a Half Life fan I’m just happy to get anything ever

Júlia Ferrari

My birthday was exactly a week ago so I will consider this a birthday present. Thank you, Harry! s2

jpVari

Thanks so much for the most amazing thing I've heard today

Travis Noble

Loved the "Tricky Dick" iilluminaughtii reference!

Isaiah Webb

I love mackerel man. I just bought a tin of mackerel in mustard. YOU’ve never had mackerel, Hairy

Evan Pitkin

4.5 hrs...What are you doing to yourself man?

max

You were right, this is your best video yet, incredible. I might be wrong but wasnt it 18 a day not 8 a day with tokens? I thought 8 a day was the monthly price, idk i might be wrong

Christian Sibbitt

Yes, please add the technofeudalism and enshittification section expansions! I want an excuse to rewatch the video again and it hitting the five hour mark would be really funny

Annoyance

yeah you're right sorry my bad. and also I just know the teenagers were working at a factor facility, it doesn't say hello fresh on the front and I think that's why I confused factor for owning hello fresh not the other way around. there's also a fuckton of security and my city isn't too happy about the noise and light pollution and smells but that's besides the points. I just hate that place a lot lmao

Quitpayload

I'm loving the video so far, but just to let you know, there's a video glitch at 1:26:53

jamsaltifyouwill

ok i have watched the whole video and oh my god this may possibly kill all of capitalism when this releases properly. i will mostly like give my feedback in the discord server about how much i loved this, though i would like to acknowledge apple trying to kill "right to repair". it probably wouldn't fit the video tone as it is a massive can of worms of its own but if you think the app store is bad, holy shit you may blow your head smooth off reading into how their repair buisness works lol

Brackets

As somebody who grew up in Temecula California, I am so sorry you had to visit that hellhole of a city to film the on-location parts. Adobe owes everybody involved with that short compensation.

RAMPWUFF

Absolutely love the video up until now (30 minutes in) - but I will say I find the new pacing to be too much / too fast. I have watched the first 90 minutes video you posted 6 months ago a few times and imo that pacing was a little better - it made it a bit easier to get all the jokes and to fully understand what’s going on. I understand the difficulty though since it’s 4.5 hours, but yeah :p Either way, awesome job getting it done! ^^ Edit: it seems to be just the part 1 part, after part 1 (again) it’s totally fine again :D

KittyQueenTengu

I need to set aside an afternoon in bed with a cup of tea for this

Alexia

heyy i wasn't drawing furry porn on my main monitor.... I was texturing a game asset using adobe software. So yknow... maybe that's worse actually....

Temba, His Arms Wide

I probably will have more thoughts eventually. But right now I am too charmed by the muppets. They're off the hand, yo.

SideshowCat

I'm 2hr 30min into this video, sitting in the corner screaming USE KRITA USE BLENDER DEAR LORD i swear to God if this video doesnt wrap around I'm throwing hands with u, mr hBUMerguy :(((

Kitty and Bea 🏳️‍⚧️

The joke about your “one female viewer” and cricut comes off a liiittle off tone and tastes a little bit of “only women can craft” flavour misogyny

Chase the Chao

3 hours in and now I'm depressed. Woohoo!

Elisa groli

excuse me was his name really Bob Bork

Marie Hjort Jensen

Just finished watching. Very good! My feedback is: very informative, I appreciate the resources on what we can do next/now. So overall great job Harry & Kat!

blatterpussbunnyfromhell

The Bork bar fight segment was hilarious! The conclusion is so hopeful, and much needed after all learning about all the bullshit that Adobe and big companies like it have done. I'm excited to see the final version!

Dannysaysnoo

Thank you for making me guffaw like a buffoon at work. 5 Deltarunes in 8 years, about 14 Hbomb vids in 8 years.

Sean Hicks

You said you wouldn't correct it but small thing, Mr plagiarism became a *fake* wedding photographer, his entire portfolio was stolen, in large part from stock photos

Shelby Fawn

huge fan of the edits in the script in the first hour. y’all managed to make it both more clear and more human. there are a few spots of the sound quality changing mid scene (I assume between recorded on site vs in the booth) and those shifts take me out of the content briefly when they aren’t part of a scene change

Mari

I’m so excited to watch! Major props to everyone involved in this beast of a project.

Dean Kelly

It's holy mackerel when you say grace at the kaitenzushi joint

Jared Layton

Still seems a bit rough around the edges, maybe take it back for reshoots for a few months

Temba, His Arms Wide

I feel like it needed actual support. Security issues can be addressed, but you have to actually try. It's also not like the alternative of javascript, css, and html were particularly secure, especially at the time. The difference being that their implementations were supported by basically the entire industry.

42.Computer

Hands up who got the DiVinci Resolve licence

RazielMartelus96

I have had a critique ready to go for the whole video then you had to steal my thunder at 4:18:22... you FIEND! (Though ngl, I was half convinced that the topic at that time was going to be the "HB twist" of the video 😭). Also, for no reason whatsoever, I think you should bully MattKC to release his Godot-based open source video editor already 👀🤣 EDIT: I think maybe the "issue" with the video is what you said at the end. it was originally going to be an open source video. I didn't feel at any point we got into the "meat and potatoes" of the "real" subject of the video, like previous videos in the last few years you've done. But, that said? I am still glad I watched it and it was well worth the wait!

Keigan Attwood

Not only is it outdated because Keir Starmer has resigned it is even more outdated because Burnham has now announced plans to tackle subscription traps similar to Click-To-Cancel. You will forever be chained by the endless march of time. Can't wait for the 5hr final cut lol

konj732

holy shit we're so back

Zach Merriman

HOLY MACKEREL.. uhhh what’s my line again?

Can H.

I've had mackerel....TODAY of all days

Crispy

Holy moly I’m gunna cum!

archiemcw

keri stalin 😡

Marnix

god, i forgot that Substance Painter used to be a really cool company until they got taken out back and shot. and unlike the other apps there's not even any viable alternatives, there's mostly just armor paint, which kind of sucks

AppliedJest

Who’s Kier Starmer? I’m not a history major! But I had had mackerel - don’t make assumptions about me, internet man

Alexander Quiroz

I have had raw mackerel, went to a sushi place and they had it so I ordered it and I liked it. It had a specific “non-sushi” taste, the people with me did not like it at all but I did and thats what really matters.

luvkirby4ever

Hell yes wtg!! I was hoping someone who really needed it got it! Have fun with your video projects :D

Benjamin Storm

Love the video. HOWEVER hbomb needs to take his own advice and cut like 10-15% of the script out. The plagiarism video worked because he wasn't just ranting, it was all moving towards the case study of Somerton. This one gets really ranty in places.

canles

This was a nice suprise to rework my scedule for the day. Exelent video!!

Hannah Anthonia

I got really into Hollow Knight in the pandemic and yeah. Yeah.

Justin

Today is an auspicious day

David Dalby

35 minutes in(ish) - Feel like you should give Tantacruel some on screen props for the Sibelius's info, as you're friends and he did a whole big video on it. Sibelius crashed.

Beth Fisher

It is also my birthday!! multiple birthday people getting birthday present!!

luvkirby4ever

Haha, I feel similarly as a 2D artist who uses GIMP. Though the fear of big tech acquisition is always a terrifying threat. At least GIMP's been holding strong for a long time- hopefully Blender does the same!

Antichrist Against Fascism

Not to be that guy, but we could probably do without you calling Thunderfoot a "little bitch".

Adam Hirst

4:03:45 if you have a principled objection to the term "sideloading" (one I've not heard but which honestly I find quite convincing), I would implore you to consider the same consistency here

tiger

as a professional editor/fellow adobe hostage i SO appreciate you bringing the craft of post to a wider audience. it’s an industry that has suffered insanely from enshittification (more on that, please!) not just from software monopolies but shareholders putting so much stock into AI (to embarrassing effect). also, yeah, the avid class are all dinos who have been using it since the 80s and the reason it’s still “industry standard” in features and longform is because those editors refuse to retire and usher in the next gen. i’m lucky enough to be employed by a post house that has the money to license whatever software we want and i really feel for all my freelancer friends who have to pay to keep their livelihoods afloat. THANK YOU for pointing people towards resolve, it’s an editor with incredible tools and a color program so good that it’s literally what every professional colorist uses. love the video, please keep up the good work. also holy shit, Kat needs to have a second act in muppet-making

Davy

holy crap can't believe i managed to watch all of this in one take, but i did. The only part i found a bit confusing was the intro who is maybe a little too fast, i'm not sure. It felt a litle jarring. However, i want to thank you for making this. It was awesome.

banjotea

The green in the background at 39:45 is my favorite color so I'd say you're on the right track, great stuff

RazielMartelus96

I have messaged HBomb directly, but there is a great tragedy. The License has an automatic "Deactivate the license on all current PCs" feature that can be called once a week. Thankfully, I discovered it when moving it to my main PC so I did not lose the license yet... So, at best, I will have the license one week before it is Thanos snapped by another user or a bot that scrapes the key from the video. :(

Fermoselle

omg captain dissilussion’s intern Alan!

SulaMoon

RUNNING YELLING CHEERING SPASMING YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Lauka2

i can't wait to binge this bad boy on youtube

Slinger

Holy flounder, four and a half hours?! Very well, hold my calls I'm going in.

Sid

I still think it is a bit of a mistake to refer to Lizzie Magie as a Socialist, she was a Georgist which is a legitimate and distinct ideology from socialism even if they are broadly similar and erases a distinct historical movement from history that I suspect she wouldn't appreciate. I don't say this because I dislike socialism or anything remotely silly like that but because I am pretty sure especially historically the distinction was absolutely important to the people who made the effort to distinctly differentiate themselves from other movements they may very well might have had deep political and philosophical disagreements with. I think the line should be changed to "She's a Georgist, which to overly simplify is kinda like being a socialist" and move on like that I think would be vastly better and only take like 1 extra second of the video's runtime.

Hrab

Very well may be too much of a diversion but I’d love an inclusion on photoshops sordid history with brushes, both in terms of buying out Kyle T Websters beloved brushpacks and trying to peddle a Keith Haring brush pack so you can “draw like Keith Haring” even though Haring famously used very accessible art tools and also would’ve hated Adobe, just blatant image laundering that they’re at all a “creatives first” company

The Paladin Breakstar

The ending is really appreciated. The more positivity the better. Also, I know this is mainly about creative software, but there are plenty of ways we can disconnect from the corporate control. Smart homes are difficult, but I'm currently working on upgrading my home server to run smart home operations without the AI that's trying to invade my current setup. Open source communities are working on stuff like this in pretty much every field, and it gives me great hope for the future.

Hrab

It’s especially insulting when photoshops brushes are some of the closest the program gets to democratization since you can fairly easily make and share your own brushes. It speaks to that suppressed creativity by using exclusively Adobe products you talk about at the end of the video, I’m sure they’d get rid of brush customization if they didn’t fear the backlash

Galvanised bolt Darcy

I only have one note (cause i can't really be bothered to do more). i prefer the opening from the 1 hr 20 min version. it feels a bit wordy with "who says nay" and i prefer it to have no music during the opening.

Michael Fisher

37:55 New office in Montreal could do with a fade reference still of the "cheaper developer cost" point made in the deus ex video. Pretty sure thats the reference here, but it kinda relies on you terminally being in the Harry mines as it currently stands

Mossy

we got adobe video before gta 6

marvhus

AT&T didn't just create C and C++, they also created their own syntax for assembly ...it's awful.

Jessup Ammeen

Haven't watched the edit yet but I will say that I find the topics of enshittification and technofeudalism fascinating, especially as it relates to Adobe. Yanis Varoufakis has done a fair few interviews on the subject now so maybe those might have some clips you could use use as citations?

Revlie Art

I never thought I'd see a town with no name reference out in the wild

Barbara Boynton

They keep pounding on the bathroom door saying 'we closed 2 hours ago' but I simply am too sat.

galileeo

Today's my 21st birthday! Thank you so much for the birthday gift. I'm drinking for the first time legally while watching this.

Patrick

lol i suppose harry has to end his life cuz kier did resign before this video came out.

Omar S

The “full circle” moment is so goddamn cool. God I love this writing

galileeo

its also my birthday!

hexine

You got me mumbling in my beard about open-source software until the very end, you muppet :) It's funny because it's been one of the most important subjects in my life since I spend so much time since I was a teen in this universe, contributing to multiple projects in multiple ways, being that weird dude that would speak your ear off about this kind of stuff, it was definitely cathartic seeing somebody not from that world ending this behemoth of a video there. Loved the end message too, that captured really well the essence of most the space innovations ending up being someone or a corporation annoying some vindictive nerd until he does something about it and convinces others to help. And don't worry Harry, you get used to being the annoying Linux guy, get with the program

Paige

Huzzah! I have loved seeing this video’s progress as you’ve worked on it. The only quibble I have is with the guns. I know I’m a baby with ptsd, but dang so many gunshots in this. It’s kind of setting off my fight or flight, but I recognize I’m in the minority here.

Paige

Yeah I wondered if that was the joke or if he didn’t know haha

ValerieIsNot

Amazing timing, I was just about to restart my membership because i got paid today! - The horn 100% worked, i didn't sleep last night so I fell asleep during the video. Honk out of 10. - I forgot timestamps, but rental furniture that's not rent-to-own is already a thing! Yaaaaaaay! 🤮 - Fun fact: Google and Facebook (or their parent companies, whatever) have been investing millions into the real estate market in Silicon Valley to provide subsidized homes for their employees. The "feudalism" part of the technofeudalism label is even more apt than just companies jousting in court. - I'm not sure what else could be added about the topic of enshittification without just beating us over the head with summaries along the way. If anything, the video just *is* a step-by-step examination of how enshittification happens in the first place. - You said something about hoarse mouth at one point? I'm confused, is your throat okay? You should drink some water. I hear there's a subscription for that.

Fermoselle

reaper is a good boy indeed!

M Roos

Relieved to learn I wasn’t the only one to do exactly this!!

Ally M

Since Todd (of the clan Shadows) is busy with his video on songs that stop on the word stop, which Nebula creator is coming in for the follow up that firmly nails the casket shut on Adobe?

connrs

Yay! Truth..... Does not do as much good in the world as Aquaman does to teach people who love books that horses aren't real. Our mothers are very proud of sobek

Peren Smith

I think it’s a little weird to specify “female viewer” for the cricut thing. Otherwise VERY excited to see this video nearly done!

Jedasis

Give me a drink, bartender!

Nick Martin

There's some irony of me getting an email from Microsoft telling me that Publisher so they can charge more for it, or I could convert to Adobe's PDF

Peren Smith

Also my favorite illustration program is made by one guy and it cost me 50$ in 2012 for the certificate and I can install it anywhere I want. I’ve been meaning to do that blender donut tutorial for years i WILL do it at some point it WILL happen

Seren Mist

MY BIRTHDAY WAS YESTERDAY THIS IS LITERALLY THE GREATEST GIFT POSSIBLE THANK YOU HBOMBERGUY MY LIFE IS YOURS

Darren Jalland

Holy canolli! (I've never had canolli either)

Patrick

I’m just done the video now and wow this was fucking great thank you hbomb for blessing us, i bought your patreon because the video came out on patreon. I have been rewatching your stuff for a bit now cuz i can and while watching this video it feels like a spiritual continuation of your woke advertising video you did a while back which i really like but i thought was a bit short so im happy to get like 4 hours of this lol, anyway i did watch this in one sitting and now most of my day is gone but i am very happy for doing so thank you for being the best and everyone will always watch and support your content thanks for making my year a bit better and making me feel a little less alone ahh well you’ll never read this under the mountain of comments that’ll appear in the next two days. (p.s sorry for my shit grammar need to improve on that)

sal scorpion

to be quite honest, i feel like a lot of the clips that got reshot didn’t need to be reshot. i thought the green screen bit when you revealed you were actually in the hotel was much funnier when it was much more chaotic. little nitpick but that’s just me

Skye

V good, weird broken edit at 3:30:25ish

Klobas

It's shaping up to be an all time banger. As a 3D hobbyist, the middle portion of the video hurt. Just the amount of greed and incompetence ruining everything. What got me the most were the Autodesk tokens. That seems especially greedy. You were right, I was shouting "BLENDER" on the screen a lot in that portion, but it makes more narrative sense to mention it at the end. The whole "Alternatives" part was a reminder of software I used to pirate as a kid/student. Fortunately my main 3D program of choice was always Blender. I remember using Substance, even before the Adobe acquisition. I'm surprised they still sell licenses on Steam. It's about 200 euros for a year of updates. Now as a working person who can afford the hobby, I've settled for texturing on Marmoset Toolbag. It's still a subscription, but it's not Adobe and it's much cheaper. And I got it to work on Linux without problems. Thank you for reminding me that Mudbox was a thing. I legitimately forgot that existed. I'm still sad about Affinity. I bought the Designer as a alternative to Illustrator and Inkscape. It's been great to use. But then they released version 2, then got acquired and the bought version is now obsolete. But at least I'm still pretty confident it would work without any issues if I booted it up. It's the only piece of software I've been unable to replace when migrating to Linux. I've just settled on messing with Inkscape or Figma. I like that the video ends on a hopeful note. The open source software landscape is getting constantly better, where the proprietary software might be getting better, but often gets worse in another aspects.

RazielMartelus96

I have to disagree on the greenscreen bit. Me and my friend rewatched that bit after seeing your comment (as we guitily started at 1:25ish) and think it is significantly funnier now. I think we have to remember that we wouldn't know its the 2nd fakeout, so to suddenly have the HBomb we are looking at vanish into the green colored roll of DECEIT is, objectively, hilarious haha

Glaurung

Open source software ftw

dangered wolf

I LOVE YOU I have a flight tomorrow so this’ll be perfect

llynxfyremusic

I'd appreciate if you replaced some of the case studies in the middle that get a little repetitive with the small sections on technofeudalism and enshittification

Brodyjohn

Oh god help you, you went to Temecula; you poor bastard! Your accent isn't built for temps above 30°C, let alone Temecula's 40°C (104°F). Now you got me worried people are going to hear about Temecula and try to go there. Here's a beginner's primer: If you like buying niche antiques, riding Harley-Davidsons, or drinking wine al fresco with Republicans, Temecula sure is one of the SoCal weekend destinations of all time, and it's just a short drive from where you presumably live in RSM or Irvine. On the other hand, if you like Drag Shows, you're mostly out of luck because a couple years ago the community had a full Christian moral panic about monthly drag brunches happening in a single 21+-only bar "downtown." They created and selectively enforced new noise ordinances just to stamp them out. I'm going there in a few weeks to pick up some heirlooms from my father and his confusing wife. Keep a good thought in mind for me. 🙃

JoeO

Damn it. I JUST installed windows over Linux (for the 20th time in my life) because I can't be bothered to learn how to use Linux. Now with this outro I have to install Linux again and force myself to learn it because fuck MS

John Bierce

Alright, finished it! Hella enjoyed this one, and yeah, I think brief primers on enshittification and technofeudalism would be warranted! I'm not the biggest fan of technofeudalism as a term personally, because it's basically mostly rehashing existing Marxist ideas, but, like... It is certainly a catchier term, and one more palatable to normie audiences than weird dense leftist theory, so it's worth discussing. (And admittedly, there's not a direct 1-1 Marxist analogue I'm aware of, but also I haven't finished Capital yet. Or started. I will, I swear!) And enshittification as a model is just rock fucking solid, Cory Doctorow knocked it out of the park there. I think it will probably take slightly more time to introduce than technofeudalism, but it's worthwhile, because the model absolutely meshes with and describes so much of what's in this video! Y'all did a great job, regardless. Congratulations, and I hope this one does absolute gangbusters, and hopefully hurts Adobe's stock price. A lot. I hope their executives screech your names in rage from the depths of their lightless methane tanks.

Callum Arnold

Before I get stuck in with the video and reply to this comment to offer feedback, I just want to say I hope you and Kat are both doing well healthwise and lifewise, knowing how hard you've worked on this, and the chaos you've referred to in prior updates. The time and energy you put into these videos doesn't go unappreciated, and this topic especially has only gotten more relevant over time. Much love and support and hugs, and cheers to being in the homestretch!

Jess Neale (edited)

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2026-09-05 04:00 1:24:21 - you say "the closest you can get to the horses mouth". Those abominable creatures don't exist.
2026-08-11 18:02 1:24:21 - you say "the closest you can get to the horses mouth". Those abominable creatures don't exist. ETA ah I see you mention "beating a dead horse" later at 2:27:00. Perhaps your ideology has changed.

1:24:21 - you say "the closest you can get to the horses mouth". Those abominable creatures don't exist. ETA ah I see you mention "beating a dead horse" later at 2:27:00. Perhaps your ideology has changed.

Can H.

ahhh at 28min, the one sentence recorded in post sounds a bit too perfect. but I like the outside audio a lot, maybe there's a way to match it up a bit, hmmmm. but somebody else already mentioned this

Shelby Fawn

I’m not sure that you really need to dive into enshitification unless you have significantly more to say on it because the stories teach the meaning of the word enough on their own. mentioning it as a way to sum up a lot of the issues you discuss as something that happens with or without subscription models is probably enough.

fibrefox

💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

VoltzzzWrld

Another hbomber Homestuck, hell yes.

uvaballfan

I haven't finished yet, but I will say that I thought the original version of the green screen reveal was the funniest joke you ever wrote and I was very sad to see it changed to what I feel is an inferior version.

parsley

i have the tiniest wokest critique that's def not worth rerecording for but just in case ur doing so for another reason u specifically use male pronouns when personifying things and essential graphics deserves better than he/him

SideshowCat

I got to 10 minutes before the end & was legitimately terrified we'd end without a "guys just use open-source you don't need their shitty eco system" but we finally got there 💪

Muse

The middle part of your video about the nature of our economic system depressed me terribly, but thankfully I watched to the end where I was reminded that "oh yeah, people choose to do charity and just make the world better, especially when they're pissed at people who make the world worse" The section about Steve Jobs being petty and evil really sticks in my brain. It didn't even occur to me that an aspect of being anti-competition was not allowing workers to switch companies. I will say, the CTA made me sign up for EFF emails, but none of the campaigns they have right now appear to relate directly to things this video is about. You do mention emailing them directly, but I think it'd be worthwhile to display the causes to email them about on screen in a credits style list format. Good video, Im going to take a Godot tutorial the moment I get off work

Dyllan Miller

and that's, uh... hehe... tricky dick... very cool, man. the watergate scandal man himself... Harry, you sly fox

Wesley Moon

Long live Davinci Resolve, Reaper, and Blender.

praufreading

3:20:00 You could add that Epic recently raised V-Buck prices (so that they're now even higher than before #FreeFortnite I believe) and at almost the exact same time laid of a large chunk of their developers (and started using AI to "assist" development of skins that you purchase). Would probably underpin that they're just another shitty company like the bit with the Spotify CEO making more money than any musician.

Shelby Fawn

the focus blur around 2:56 feels off but not in a way that feels like a bit. I love the bartender so I accept it, but still.

Tom Clark

Please bring back the original nay read

JHXC

I've waited 20 years for my local hockey team to win the stanley cup again. I've been trained to wait my whole life.

Stephi Anne-with-an-E (edited)

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2026-09-05 04:00 All the Windows jokes make me wonder if Linux is going to come up. Also, I've never used professional tools and know the free ones are probably extremely limited in comparison, but in the sculpting section I kept wondering if Blender was going to come up. Like, I know FOSS is very much not perfect, but the more other software refuses to stop getting worse, the better these free nerdy passion projects get in comparison.
2026-08-11 18:24 All the Windows jokes make me wonder if Linux is going to come up. Also, I've never used professional tools and know the free ones are probably extremely limited in comparison, but in the sculpting section I kept wondering if Blender was going to come up. Like, I know FOSS is very much not perfect, but the more other software refuses to stop getting worse, the better these free nerdy passion projects get in comparison. Edit to add: LOL, this is what happens when I'm impatient, very much looking forward to your own version of the donut! Also having not been a Linux person a couple years ago: the technology and community have both been way friendlier than I was expecting. A lot of distros are so much easier than you'd expect, and not once have I recieved or even seen a "RTFM" except in jest. People will think you're weird, but... well, if you're already getting excited about FOSS, that ship has already sailed.

All the Windows jokes make me wonder if Linux is going to come up. Also, I've never used professional tools and know the free ones are probably extremely limited in comparison, but in the sculpting section I kept wondering if Blender was going to come up. Like, I know FOSS is very much not perfect, but the more other software refuses to stop getting worse, the better these free nerdy passion projects get in comparison. Edit to add: LOL, this is what happens when I'm impatient, very much looking forward to your own version of the donut! Also having not been a Linux person a couple years ago: the technology and community have both been way friendlier than I was expecting. A lot of distros are so much easier than you'd expect, and not once have I recieved or even seen a "RTFM" except in jest. People will think you're weird, but... well, if you're already getting excited about FOSS, that ship has already sailed.

Dante

I'm so happy!

Ryan

HAHAHA! The juice can multiplier bit is incredible. Don't lose it for the full video.

Rex Bolt

At 1:05:55, you should add a picture of Ronald Reagan dressed like a cowboy, hopefully one without a horse since horses doesn't exist.

Tom Hanson

The logos at 2:36:46 get a bit lost against the background and could do with something to contrast against for legibility. Unless you don't fancy legibly advertising the logos for those fuckers in which case I don't blame you.

Brusk

I laughed far too hard at that nixon illuminaughti joke

Jessica Meats

Around 2hours 40 minutes, the footage goes out of focus briefly

Maq

Watching this at work and trying to take notes but we'll see if my brain lets me. WORST CASE I WILL WATCH THIS 500 TIMES LIKE I DO EVERY VIDEO I WATCH AND TAKE NOTES LATER...

Quitpayload

When you held up that 180 page document I was going to write a comment jokingly asking you how much money you spent on printer ink subscriptions to print that, but theb a few minutes later you basically made that joke yourself

Andrew Simpson

Hbomb I think there's a bug in the video player, it seems to be telling me the video is four and a half hours long.

Arne Menz

Brilliant additions already! Around 50 min there is a small jump in audio

Can H.

Bork should've been a furry instead for world peace :(

El Tomatron

Bork didn’t even see the hole, so he knew the poop wouldn’t go!

Alley

I spent so much of the video thinking about blender and open source software it was nice to be right for once

marvhus

Reaper is awesome! Renoise too!

Alison Ludwig

When I watch 35 mins of hbomb I, too, want to get pregnant

Aprril

I personally am annoyed that you referenced horses twice, despite being fictional. More substantially, I know the terms enshittification and technofeudalism, but I do think they need to be explained. As concepts, they’re quite new and you need to be quite up to date with leftist / anti-AI discourse to have heard of them. At the very least, it would be fun to reference figures like Yanis Varoufakis, Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron, as their work is intimately tied to some of the ideas in the video.

psi43

At 21:09 there is a short encoding error on the video. I'll post more things I notice while watching (which will be in sessions, because I don't have 4+ hours right now lol).

Louis Gardner

Hbomb dropped a new video? AND IT'S OVER 4 HOURS!? Ok... I'm gong to need a day off, 2 tubs of popcorn, a 4 pack of Abbot, and my t-shirt that says "fuck adobe". WE ROLL!

Frax Faoladh

Maybe this is just because I'm a mentally ill homosexual socialist but I got kinda choked up in the section where you talk about rediscovering the excitement of creating once you started using FOSS. After banging my head against the wall for years trying to get the hang of creating art digitally I decided last year that I was just going to do it all traditionally; sketching in pencil, doing the lineart with an actual ink and brush, teaching myself watercolours. I've even started to hand letter my own comics because I discoverd how much fun it is being able to design the look of my own text rather than just downloading a font off the internet. I still use software for scanning and touching up my art (shoutout to Krita and GIMP!) but all of the actual art is done by hand on paper and I'm actually enjoying the process of creation more than I have in years! There's something very... de-alienating? (I'm sure there's an actual word for that) about taking back control over your creative process when you've spent years following a pipeline dictated by adobe and their ilk.

The Function Creep

As a Twin Peaks fan, this wait was a brief intermission

Olivia Malone

Obligatory Whoo for this coming out, but just as there’s a call out for notes, I will say that as someone who’s parent is a music teacher Sibelius is still the only game in town. It isn’t really “dying” because all its alternatives are extremely stripped down versions of it. Sure, a hobbyist or music student can use musescore, but if you’re a genuine musician (even a local self employed teacher who is way on the poorer end of a very poor industry) musescore isn’t going to support everything you need. Also, relatedly, I am 26 years old and have been involved passively in orchestral music my whole life. I enjoyed the reaper reference. And yet I had genuinely NEVER heard of pro tools. Even 15 years ago when I was becoming aware of things Logic had become the industry standard.

George Frankly!

Tricky dick! The Watergate scandal man! Very cool indeed!

herb

Yarn blood spurt goes crazy

Adam Greene

Well now i need a video on why Factor sucks. Other than them being fancy microwave meals

Papa Magnifico

Sidebar fuck OnStar for being a data harvesting leech as well. Great video! Looking forward to music being added

herb

The cosmic levels of irony or perhaps just hypocrisy of Josh Hawley writing "the tyranny of big tech" while being a Peter Thiel backed candidate is fucking off the charts

zach

LET'S GOOOOOO

Mobius Scarf

How did you ALSO know about the furry porn? ...also, you're welcome? But mostly thanks. This video rules and if any entity deserves the eternal hell of wedding photography, it's Adobe, so if this video is a test to see if you just have the cosmic power to destroy people by making videos, this is an excellent and ethical test of those powers. Seems unlikely, but it would be awesome.

Ellen Thomas

4.5 hours is such a treat 💛 unfortunately switched back to an apple phone after being scammed by Google support - Apple's support is great, I just have to deal with them grinding my device to a halt every 1.5 years to try and force me to buy a new one

OdinTheGreat

I like how this started as an Adobe must die video and ended as a video about marx's falling rate of profit.

Adam Christensen

Is that Erik Hoffstad playing Monopoly with y'all at 1:31:25

Dantedent

So glad this went out. As europe and the world is on fire, fueled by the dollars of the capitalistic world, your videos are a heartwarmer, even if the subjects aren't often easy. Half way through, just wanted to say that avid, in french, literally means greedy. Not even a need to do a pund like "Avid for money". Edit : i mixed up my vocabulary here. It works but it's kinda strange. Avare would be the word

AdamOnHook

What even IS a mackerel?!

Oracle Machine

From someone who used to work in tech: thank you

Kargush

Holy mackerel! Which, being Norwegian, I've eaten on more than one occassion (and at least once, it was *un*holy, judging by what it did to my stomach).

EmmytheEwok

Great video! I do think that the technofuedalism bit could do with a bit more fleshing out, as just personally I'm still confused as to what it means, and what the meaningful distinction is from a monopoly.

psi43

Also at 33:20

Okumeru

Really appreciate the town with no name ref in this one

Tim Jacobs

"Am I going to be a Linux guy" - come on in, the water's fine

KJ Xiao

After supporting Nolan's Odyssey (3h) and still not having time to finish digesting The Leftist Cooks' Why Fascists Don't Eat Vegetables (6h), now this skinny kitten is going to have outright indigestion over some sacred fish???!!??!?

Jahn Fredrik

Here I'm sitting, drinking some Viking Berry, when suddenly...

AdamOnHook

I love the rapid accumulation of Monster Juice Viking Berry inspired by Nordic flavours. This is a bit and an unnecessary business expense for a drink he doesn't even like xD

DemoWebster22

If you’re looking for more open source software to talk about for the more hopeful section of the video, former animation YouTuber TimTom is working on that Sailbrush project. He has a video on it to anyone curious.

Nick Heer

Fantastic video. One thing I noticed: consider removing the AirTag reference at 2:40:19. AirTags don't use GPS; they use Apple's proprietary Find My network, which uses nearby Apple devices for triangulation. There's a comparison there, but it gets a bit iffy and I think it's more straightforward to just drop it. Edit: At 3:10:42, I think saying "Apple effectively received 30% of the entire music industry's profits for over a decade" is oversimplifying. Digital downloads did not exceed CD sales (in the U.S. at least) until 2011. In 2007, CDs still represented 70% of total sales.

DemoWebster22

For the wedding photographer joke you forgot the part where he used other people’s photos in his portfolio

Am1vf

I guess Sony killed physical games too late and it's about time for the video to come out already. Shame since it and the competition from xbox to be worse could be another example to the apple/microsoft/google situation; and gaming of "sideloading" and a more open environment. Maybe this video should get a subriber's update or DLC or another post-credits scene... joking, joking! Don't hit me. :P Anyway, cheers from a Macromedia Freehand user who has wanted Adobe to die for a long time. Looking forward for the final version so I can send it to all my friends.

CM RC

Love the puppet, but its a bit confusing. It talks for a bit, and I think its lipsyncing with hbomb, but then it becomes clear it isnt. And it happens multiple times, very distracting. Great video though!

Adam Pliszka

Because this mentioned the Luxottica scam - here's a protip that changed my life. Buy prescription glasses on AliExpress, I'm not kidding. Not going to name specific stores, but I have glasses from there, and I've also bought 6 pairs for my friends and family so far. No complaints, one of them even took theirs to an optometrist to check if they're all correct. The rest I measured myself with an app, and they were exactly the strengths they were supposed to. I know it sounds weird, but glasses are really not that expensive to make, and those sellers are basically just opticians, but online and from China. My pair is titanium (I've also checked that - I've weighed them, and there is no other cheaper non-magnetic metal that would weigh so little, and be so flexible) and with prescription lenses plus shipping it all came out to 30 USD. Absurd how the monopoly robs us, when you realise how cheap this stuff could be.

Doctor Punt Gusher, Esquire

I stopped at part 1 because my spouse will want to watch this with me. I love videos on software, I promise!

Megan Lange

I think when you make the Nixon joke quoting Blair you should put a credit for her up on screen or include a link to that video in the paste bin.

SoulOnFire

Watching a muppet man of a prick burning in hell is the hardest I've laughed in a long time. Got me wheezing like an idiot in front of my coworkers with no way to properly explain what is funny or why XDDD

ColdFire

Any chance of anyone here (or maybe even added to the video/description) know of any good links to support foundations/groups in Europe and in the EU to fight for better legislation?

TurnipCannon

As someone working in the infosec industry who stumbled into being the SME and learning lead for mobile security, the part on not liking the term "sideloading" hit so good I have to regularly yell at people for reporting things as vulnerabilities that we would NEVER ding a web browser for. "recoverable session cookie", yeah so what? "screenshotting possible", buddy you also have EYES. People treat phones like this mythical other, but it's a computer. A computer they are trying to damn hard to take away our ability to use the way we want, and the security industry is complicit in all this security-through-obscurity walled-garden nonsense.

PoloniumT

Oh my god. It’s here.

Kai G

So, about Keir Starmer.... Please don't?

what what

Woah, was not expecting a Godot cameo! Not to imply there’s always an alternative solution like that, but I think it’s really important to remind people that Adobe doesn’t get to dictate what tools you use to be creative. Also, I definitely think it’d be nice to see more on technofeudalism. Enshittification is also a good topic, but I feel gets a lot of airtime elsewhere, so might not need a whole tangent on it. Maybe a footnote. adobe delendus est

J.Vaso

I do fear that this video is dangerously approaching Illuminaughty segment levels of "examples of companies that switched to subscription models" in terms of length and how interesting it is when another example is brought to the table, especially when this video is somehow even longer than the plagiarism one. I think shortening some of these examples or showing 1 or 2 and then quickly being like "here's all the other things this happened to" would lead to some better pacing. As for the description of this post, i do feel segments focused on enshittification and technofeudalism would serve the overall topic more than several of these examples. Also I suppose this is just a perk of being a patron but the impact of this video is made so much greater having seen your excellent new grounds video to the point I might recommend straight up making that one public or even just adding the unlisted link to the description of this one as a sort of bonus DLC chapter.

Kai G

Also, my wife has literally been screaming blender at the screen when you talked about screaming blender at the screen 😂

Samantha Ewence

I would love it if creators stopped putting notes (like "I know it's Spirit Halloween I misspoke") at the bottom where the subtitles go. It means I have to pause the video, rewind, turn my subtitles off, watch that bit again, then turn them back on

Holly Smith

thank u zaddy this is the best birthday present ever smooch mwah kiss

Gwebblez

what a wonderful treat

Markus Castro

You guys made love to hbomb? Fan no.1

MaryAnne25

wait, horses exist???? (2:28:03)

CM RC

Did software piracy come before music (tape) piracy? I wasnt alive at the time so not sure

unmoved dachshund

i remember mudbox. actually i think there's been news on this since the info here, double check to see if there's anything new

Leif_millelnuie

Great video but you kept talking about horses and those are nto real. Also please don't kys bc Starmer quit.

Alexander Stewart

god damnit kier starmer, even resigning caused problems

ColdFire

It was indeed a weird comparison. Plus the car still needs a data connection, that has a cost..nowhere near what they ask for it but... Yeah it felt a bit unnecessary to dig too deep into it

ColdFire

I'd love to see him discover Linux 🥰 (I'm use arch btw)

ColdFire

I'm not sure if I'm happy or a bit disappointed that data gathering was left out. It's a huge subject and another way monopolies are super dangerous but it would add close to another hour !

ColdFire

Just curious as someone who dabbled in music notation software...10-15 years ago...is finale still a thing ? I'm pretty sure I used that software back then

Keisi

It's the Zeeky H bomb!

Happy Hapsly

Good video, but as someone who did take a few classes about avid i do have a correction. The reason people still use avid media composer is because if you know what you are doing it is the fastest and most efficient video editor. Thats due to the fact that its a linear video editor with complimentary hardware for working together with lots of people. Thats good if you make projects that take up lots of storage and need to be out quick, like news programs (so its mostly used in very select high end professional productions). I feel like you are making it seem people only use avid because they dont know any better and are old and i dont think that is doing justice to the geniusses who actually understand that god forsaken software.

Predator Minute & Gonzo Minute

I think I liked the original screeching (positive) "NAY?" from the very beginning. I think it's a better hook. There's repeated Ozymandias references that might be worth varying. I also cried at the end so 10/10 (I also cried at the end of Cool Runnings, for what it's worth)

Vee_Kay

Thank you SO much for talking about the death of HitFilm, it was my editing software of choice when I wanted to make videos of my own and I loved it like no other. I'll never forgive the company that bought and killed FXHome and HitFilm

Kangaroo Monkey

I am SO glad you explained how the pixel art Mona Lisa effect was done. When I first saw it I thought “ok, I think I know how he did that, but it’s a real ball ache” but no, that’s way simpler and cooler.

Mark

The open source video in 2028: "Temecula." "Shit." "I'm still only in Temecula."

carsausage

If you think about it, Kevin Lynch being a recurring character in this story is a lot like that old Kevin picture you used to use in your videos like 9 years ago

Joseph Gluckman (joju997)

Fantastic job, a long walk that leads to a hopeful ending. The organizing language at the end is great and reminded me to send my resume over to EFF (They don't actually have any job postings, but they are taking resumes, in case anyone else is interested). If you're still looking to change things, you can probably save about 5-10 minutes in cutting jokes that are stingers to longer jokes. There are a couple moments in Hour 2 that are repeats of "I can't believe this is in the script," and there are some bits in the Biden/Harris section that turn into tangents about Democrats and their donors that don't *all* need to be there. I think you're good on how much enshittification and technofeudalism play into this, especially given the scale of things you use Adobe to talk about.

MsMadameMim

Incidentally I have a 4,5 h drive tomorrow... three guesses what I'll be listening to while driving my train to Gävle 😌👌

Joseph Gluckman (joju997)

Also, I respect the hell out of the fact that y'all made two custom muppets for this. Is this a metaphor for Disney, another encroaching giant? Probably not, but say it is and take credit.

Lyra Orsinov

Ace Attorney fan here, the wait was basically a lunch break

Michael Garcia

As a Geometry Dash player since 2015 people calling this a “long wait” is very funny to me

Joseph Gluckman (joju997)

Other thing as I think about it: the last few big hits of the Hbomberguy channel had a hateable person as a villain to anchor the story around. Andrew Wakefield, James Somerton, Tommy Tallarico. Robert Bork is the closest thing to that here, and I think it's probably a good idea to not do that here, but I did notice and feel the absence. I spent some time during that hour wondering about who the Twist Villain was going to be, and while it's cool that there isn't, it's worth at least thinking about acknowledging that.

TurnipCannon

Some friends of mine are getting married near-ish to where that guy is based, I must warn them

sm3dw sm3dw

I made the pog face for a solid three seconds at the The Town With No Name reference, beautiful vid

AmazonRhinos

As someone who has been in a beautiful one sided friendship with you for many years, I have to say you all did great.

UmlautPlush

For what it's worth, I think giving a little more foundation to the couple mentions of technofeudalism might be nice, but not necessary. Ultimately, I think many of your viewers are hip to both enshittification and technofeudalism. To your second request, there are a few orgs and non-profits that help people find where to give their time, which can sometimes be more plentiful than money. Especially in the United States, and even moreso in large cities, giving your time to a non-profit can also build a new expert in a field: you. I absolutely stand by direct action and protest, but also showing up on boring days, when you might just sit around and learn the indepth ways your organization functions. Thank you for giving glimmers of hope throughout the video. It's tough to stay positive a lot of the time, and there's a lot to fight against, but it's a good reminder that when we choose to actually do things, and not roll over, we can make things better.

ColdFire

Agreed, not sure it would be doable but...it would be nice if this could be considered

From a Good Gnome

I would definitely love more on technofeudalism, I thought there would be more of an explainer in there than there ended up being. It's fantastic, though, as usual! Really looking forward to the judge cameo too

Triquetral

absolutely loved it but when you say who has a yellow shirt at the bit of wearing the woody costume you should either Photoshop or photo-bash a JPEG of a shirt yellow on top of yourself.

The007who

loved the CAD reference i actually belly laughed

Futifa

Hi Big Money. Glad you got to play cowboy one last time.

herb

I'm also annoying enough already but I fear one of the solutions is all of us getting the most annoying we can possibly be

Jessica Meats

Agreed - that joke was extremely jarring

herb

Fantastic work mr bomberguy. I'm not good at giving critical feedback because I'm a dumbass, but you've done great work here. Can't wait to watch the finished product with my fiance on the big TV (he didn't want spoilers)

Isaac Madsen

I've watched this enough times to yell "BUT THERE IS A GOD AND HIS NAME IS NASDAQ" maybe I need to stop watching the drafts five times

fowo

watched the entire thing in one setting because i was so excited. (on the second monitor, yes, but while i was kniting, mind.) i also don't know how patron workps aparently which is why i pressed enter for a new paragraph and sent my reply. well then. three hours in i was terribly depressed (same was it also was with the plagiarism video) but you always know how to end these essays on such a positive note that by the last chapter, i was sitting here, smiling at my screen and feeling such profound hope. i spent the afternoon following along to a godot tutorial because i'm teaching myself the engine right now, and i DID become a linux guy last year (would never go back, i HATE that they were right all along--) and uyo calling both these things out made me laugh. but also because you brought it back to the joy of learning, and the wonderful human spirit creating amazing things for FREE so effortlessly, and i really, reall yappreciate that. i want to give this video a rewatch, and hopefully write down some notes. right now it's 11pm and i coded all day in 30 degrees so it's time for sleep, but thank you, already, for this wonderful video.

sven terje bang

thank you for the optimism, I needed that

Adam Greene

Fun new form of this theft is parking passes. In Philly, if you buy the metro card you need to park, and you leave Philly, they charge you a $1 a month "inactivity" fee. Forever. If you use this system, you either use your card regularly, or you start being charged after a year of inactivity in perpetuity. Eventually Adobe will do something similar.

Evan Pitkin

I remember when I had the first glimpse of this world we're living in. I was a kid and received an ipod nano for christmas. At an apple store I asked how a person could play films they bought on dvd using the nano, and, without a hint of shame, the apple employee declared I would have to buy them all over again on itunes. I remember thinking how shabby and unbecoming this was for such a successful business to do. Now it's almost all modern commerce.

Musicombo

Are you using Dorico now, out of curiosity?

Shelby Fawn

huh. this explains why the patreon I just signed up for let me sign up on the website instead of just in-app. turns out the apple pushback still hasn’t gone into effect.

Charu

Hbomb is about to find out "bishie" is basically shorthand for "anime boyfriend"

gotcocomilk

Since Adobe is named after Adobe creek, might I suggest the Adobe tributaries as a name for the little ones. Distributaries, technically, but it sounds worse

Stephi Anne-with-an-E

At 4:12:03, as a former fanfiction gremlin, it makes me SO FRUSTRATED that emdashes have become characteristic of LLM outputs. It's just a constant reminder that they're profiting (or at least, trying to) off of literally incalculable hours of human creative labor.

MintzBuck

I hate capitalism and Steve Jobs even more now!

Sardonic

I appreciated the 'The Town With No Name' reference. And as an attempted creator, everything else you said of course.

Shelby Fawn

curious how you’ll split up the final section. it feels like there is a natural space between what can be done in general about it and what can be done by individuals watching the video. you already hit that in the script (and damn your horn, that is gonna wake me up when this inevitably becomes one of the videos to help me sleep) but I think you can make those two pieces more obviously split. I also think a big thing that can be done through this video specifically is just arming people with the knowledge of the history of anti-trust so they have the ability to better analyze things that will come, and it may be worth pointing very directly at it.

Iain Shepherd

The double fakeout when you go to Temecula is my hardest LOL this year

Temba, His Arms Wide

AirTags don't *directly* rely on gps, but they do rely on it for absolute position provided by the GPS in nearby iVices. The triangulation provided by airtags is kind of useless without some kind of absolute position at some point in the chain. If you had access to the raw data, you could pretty easily figure out where something is relative to the nearby devices, but not where it is on the planet. I'd say the analogy works fine. Apple is basing a substantial amount of this feature on the public GPS satilite system, with a small part leveraging their market position as a widely distributed gps device to do a "last mile" triangulation. It's a bit simplified, but still valid.

Jacob McCaw

As a professional animator I can confirm, that is the exact noise and many others made to the news about adobe animate.

Jon Burkhardt

And this is how I find out what James Somerton has been up to lately.

Kellen Malone

I think diving into enshittification and technofeudalism is a good idea, as well as the systemic effects of fiduciary responsibility.

Ronald

I really hope this goes up elsewhere other than patreon in the near future, this is a lot lol, and it feels important that as many people as possible get to hear this 4 hour deconstruction of villainy I'm american and I fully endorse this message

dysgregulated

Hi, Linux wizard here! This was a great video, and I am glad that I clocked the ending in the first few minutes... probably a dozen times I thought you were finally getting to the open source part! I have made a strong commitment to use only free and open source software as much as possible, which means also learning about how that software works and why it is built that way, and even learning how to modify the software itself... and using computers has just been getting better for me. I think that becoming committed to open source is the only serious way to use computers as a social species and I am always happy to see people curious! Color me very excited for that next video! I recommend to everyone to at least try out Bazzite Linux, it is extremely easy to get started with, and very stable. I remember when I was at a university, there was a perpetual license for Adobe CS2 that, while perhaps not technically allowed, ended up installed on pretty much anyone's computer that asked for it, and I think that's a great thing. I refused to comply with Adobe's subscription model immediately, and made sure to remind my fellow IT friends about the availability of the installers regularly. Quick thoughts, rapid fire, the new Patreon logo really is terrible, I CANNOT BELIEVE I knew so little about Bork, and my biggest gripe with Valve is the whole enabling a casino for children. Speaking of Bork, I learned the term "borked" through working in IT, a computer that's borked is technically powered on but not working correctly, so hearing that he is this hateful, shallow man is just very fitting.

Nick Martin

This was a great distraction during my workday. Funny how many of the things line up for me. While I'll admit to fully being in the Apple ecosystem (tablet, phone, watch, typing this on a Macbook), I am trying to break as many of these things as I can otherwise. I've been sticking to the old hardware for them, and moving off the native apps. I have become a Linux guy because the games work on Linux, I've been setting up more open source projects, and trying to claw as much back as I can. I've also been hit with that Adobe cancel early fee, and have a calendar reminder on the exact day I can cancel it and not get charged a penalty (which is next month, thankfully). Now it's a matter of pulling in all the good open source replacements, like teaching myself after so many years to finally learn how to use Gimp instead of Photoshop.

Blair Thornburgh

Aww congrats! I was up for a middle of the night feeding with my newborn when Plagiarism and You(Tube) dropped (legendary refresh pull, legit saved my sanity). He’s now 2 and a half with a brother due in December, here’s to the hbombbabies ❤️

Shelby Fawn

overall, I think this is a stellar video. it feels extremely Hbomb, it’s very funny, I learned a LOT and it didn’t feel like four and a half hours, and most importantly the heart and humanity and community is still very present. I do miss Rachel shoving chips into her mask, but I can do without it. also sorry about the volume of comments. you’re the one that made a four and a half hour video.

Matt Cummins

I absolutely love this video. One nitpick that’s bothered me through all the versions we’ve seen so far: at 8:35, you say “there’s a reason this happened; there’s a mechanism that caused this to happen,” and the repetition of “happen[ed]” makes my brain itch. If there’s a viable way to ADR you saying, “there’s a reason this happened; there’s a mechanism that caused this” I would be eternally grateful.

The Function Creep

*A cheer from that one guy at the back who uses Reaper*

Can H.

I sure hope nobody had to drink the nordic juice

Ryan Stasel

You had me at Reagan ruined everything. :) Interesting possible addition. Talking about how Final Cut basically took over the market then Apple released Final Cut X and everyone jumped back to Adobe/Avid. Though, not sure what the lesson there is other than reinforcing the fact users who use these tools to do their jobs need working software, even if it does cost them their entire paycheck.

Hannah Bo Banna

P.s sorry for no spacing patreon on Firefox hates me

Helge S.

1. I never thought I'd say this but in my opinion this video is too long. I assume most of your viewers are already familiar with a lot of evil business practices, especially the rent economy. You explain the concepts very well and give good examples, but 3.5 hours is so much more than you actually need to make the points you are trying to make. All those extra examples could be in a separate bonus video instead of the main video, they just bloat it without enhancing the viewers' understanding. Also lots of people will probably never make it to the end of the video, which is the most important part. 2. The NGOs you list seem to be US only, so I guess it would be nice to name some that do their work in other countries. 3. The missing music doesn't bother me. 4. Overall I love this video and it gives me hope I didn't think was possible. Thank you <3

Chloe Wright

i think the video is already laying out some of the realities of technofeudalism and enshittification, even if you dont ever use the actual words. i think a deeper discussion of technofeudalism, and explicitly using the word, would be great: 1) it helps drive home the ways that things /can/ get worse, and how. We often understand societal dangers or risks in terms of historical extremes, and so the invocation of Feudalism™ Classic is useful for understanding our current situation 2) i think it is not a widely understood or discussed concept, or at least not as much of one as it should be. I feel less strongly about adding a section explicitly on enshittification, but if you truly arent using the word at all, i think it would make sense to at some point bring it up, maybe give a brief definition, or give a lil shoutout to mr. doctrow and his book if you are so inclined also loved the video! thank you and good work to you (Kat) and the whole team (Rachel, the puppets, plus the presenter guy, whatever his name is)

Lotti

you guys should be proud, good luck in the final stretch!! harry, i hope your hands are feeling better. i myself have bilateral carpal tunnel that i have to take meticulous care of so i have wondered how you were doing. I hope kat is doing better as well! jesus you guys nearly killed yourselves for this video huh? my feedback is take care of yourselves better next time

cyronal

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

Kemi Stanton

LMAO I WASN'T EXPECTING THE ILLUMINATI REFERENCE, THAT TOOK ME OUT

Bóín Day

RE the Tesla full self driving point, you may already know this but Tesla were caught in leaked emails to the California DMV in 2020 admitting that Full Self Driving Level 5 was not going to be a functional software, despite them advertising their FSD as "level 5". Tesla's lawyer, Eric C Williams, said in the email "we expect the functionality to remain largely unchanged [...] as such, a final release will continue to be an SAE level 2." In other words, they admitted the software they were advertising was not real then, nor did they expect it to become real in the future! This was first broken by plainsite(dot)org but strangely, while I can find articles quoting these emails, I can't get into the plainsite documents themselves anymore. Anyway! All of this to say that not only were they charging a subscription for this software, but they knew at that time the software did not exist as it was advertised, and last year the DMV forced them to stop using the term "full self driving capability"

Bóín Day

(sorry if you already knew all that and left it out for brevity haha, just adds an additional layer of scumbaggery)

Leah

Me waiting for the Open source discussion... Last 2 minutes... next Video fuuuuuu

Leah

I'm surprised open source wasn't a bigger part of this video.

NormalDude

As a Turkish person seeing and hearing "hoşgeldin" from hbomberguy was the best thing i saw this year

Adam Pliszka

Some small feedback - I think the earlier version of the Figma part flowed better in the earlier version. I also liked the toy story costume joke more lmao Really good apart from that One thing I'd disagree with is the "you can't even buy the software anymore" thing framed as something fundamentally unfair. It depends on the specific program, and most of what you listed would count to a large degree (not fully, cause some are constantly maintained at great cost, although they could still make financial sense as buy-once, although barely) but it's not always unfair to charge subscription for a desktop app. Some of them really are a service - both financially and technologically. They cost the company per-user, and the constant support is half the value proposition - sometimes not many of the customers would even want a perpetual license without high-quality support and constant updates. That's something mostly individual customers or tiny companies care about, so it makes sense not to cater to them when those are like 1% of your userbase. Especially the most expensive apps which mainly targeted at large institutional customers - in those cases, having support reps ready to go and 24/7 devs to fix bugs is a big cost, and half the point, because some companies can't afford to have anything break - you're forgetting that in times where nothing was a subscription, if you had a bug, you sometimes had to just wait a year to have it fixed in the next release. Software has changed a lot since everything had a perpetual license, and it's not always just greed - some software only makes sense financially as a subscription, even when it might not look like it from the outside. Tl;dr: Software intended for large companies usually isn't such a ripoff, even when it's a subscription, who would have thought.

AndreGG

I've never watched hbomberguy while actively trying to get pregnant, but it seems to work!

Sammy

wow, what an amazing video!! hope everyone has been recovering okay during everything. im very excited to see the finished video. enshittification was covered pretty well separately across each section, but could definitely be deeper. the call to action at the end was very heartening and helped me feel a little less insane about the whole thing

Sammy

agreed, this is important to change!

GunkTaster

In point of fact, calling a Tesla the world's most expensive coffin is technically inaccurate. I work at a funeral home that sells coffins many times more expensive than a Tesla, which themselves will probably become subscription based. Out of money? We'll live stream a feed of your grandma's rotting cadaver straight to your neuralink until you pony up!

Evan Pitkin

Didn’t expect to be nearly in tears at the very end. It’s silly, but as an animator I keenly feel the vulnerability of being tied to the software that’s integrated into my process, and the liberation you describe when acquiring new skills using tools that are truly yours is awesome.

Gonzague

2:34:20 "the world's most expensive coffin" come on the Titan was way more expensive than that

mortran

I am old enough to have lived through most of the real events and changes you describe in this video, (from the 70s onwards anyway) and I really appreciate how you have handled this. It brings everything in to a really clear focus I actually felt something akin to despair at the 2h 40 min mark, with a real sense of the world being broken forever. The final third does a lot to bring a bit of hope back tho. Thanks.

Hamuel

It makes me so happy that someone is calling attention to avid's horrendous practices. I'm halfway through production college and protools is like having advanced surgery technology but still occasionally having to saw off someone's foot with no anesthetic because 'that's the industry standard'.

NotQuiteApex

Hi Hbomb, hope you're doing well. I can't help but notice that at 3:20:28 you appear to be holding a prop firearm of some kind. This is presumably to fit in with the western aesthetic of the location you and your friends stayed at while producing this video. However, I do have one concern. Firearm safety is important, especially in the lawless west of the continental United States. It appears that you have your index placed on the trigger of this prop firearm. Even props and toys with the appearance of firearms can scare those around you into thinking that you are a dangerous individual. I humbly request that you redo this cinematography, via your poor CGI skills in post or by revisiting the shooting location and rerecording this scene, with your index finger placed firmly away from the prop's faux trigger mechanism. However, upon further inspection, it appears that you have firmly placed your digits below the trigger guard. Thanks, best regards. - Apex

BigT

I am, though I’m still not really used to it. Its audio software is neat, but overall not very useful to what I need to do, so it just feels like a worse version of what I had.

MarvoMundercup

busy booking my holiday to Temecula now before the entrie internet gets in on the deal next week

Di

I don't know how relevant this for the video but in a previous job one of the projects I worked on was making internal custom plug ins for AfterEffects. I was already mad at Adobe for the shackles it put on artists in program/subscription costs but trying to understand how to code in ExtendScript Adobe's fucked up custom version of Javascript is something I wouldn't wish on anybody. Truly impressive to me at this point that any Adobe program functions in a modern way considering how janky it felt to code with. But maybe that's bc I was not an internal Adobe engineer.

Jas Huff

Have you ever considered long-form video essays? In seriousness, I thought it was interesting bringing up Squidface from Pirates of a Sea: Dead Guy’s Boobs as the greatest cgi modeling without explicitly discussing how we’ve seen a worsening of visual effects in movies and how this could be due to the enshittification of creative software. It’s implied but I thought it could be more. Honestly, this is great. While I personally disagree incrementalism will work as a way forward, I do agree we have to start somewhere. Just great research and work.

Sarah!

2 hours late to a 3 person meeting is diabolical, they should have agreed you to more stuff

Bran Mac Muffin

Finished watching and have an unexplained urge to drink Viking Berry Monster.

unmoved dachshund

this is on its way to a masterpiece of very important work. great job all. and yay ian hubert shoutout!

Ellis Caradoc

the concept of a giant corporation being reasonably comparable to an abusive boyfriend

Musicombo

Eeeeehh... yes and no; speaking as a music teacher myself, Dorico is pretty fully-featured and my daily driver. Yes, it is proprietary, but currently it's a perpetual license. See if your parent would be interested in trying it out?

Ray Kachel

well that flew by. how does he do that?

Laslus

Absolutely amazing video. but as a fellow open source aficionado, i kinda miss a mention about Linux. Linux, much like blender, you have a bit of a learning curve and then a world opens up and you go "holy SHIT why was I eating shit the whole time?". today a lot of distros are really intuitive and they're 1. free 2. not stealing your data for fun 3. not feeding you ads ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER and 4. not using everything you do to improve their AI system that sucks. I'm not an artist (i mean, i write, but that's not the kind of art adobe has managed to devour yet), but the delight o being able to edit everything on my computer and just being wacky with it is so good. and now the only argument to stay on windows (gaming) is dead because Valve has an - open source! - system in place to run any game on linux (even if you didn't buy it from steam). It still doesn't run League of Legends, but I think that's a positive. aka become the linux guy. you will love it. it's fun. we are insufferable but we are free

Lasse F-H

1:37:00 Regarding the copying of software in the early age of commercial software: Bill Gates wrote a somewhat famous letter to a prominent hobbyist computer club on the topic in 1976: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists (Disregard this comment If it turns up later in the video)

Musicombo

Really sorry to hear that! I wish you the best of luck in the future ❤️

Crispy

1:31:28 maybe remove the closeup shot of poopy doodoo

kilmarnock

Yeah, the delivery was perfect before.

Adam Tool

Can't wait for the rest of the world to see the green screen reveal, it still comes off so good even after watching the preview a while back.

lazylensy

Hi Harry, I noticed that at around 2:48:30, when discussing Cricut, you say that your "female viewer is yelling "it's pronounced"" and so on. This feels like it could be an assertion that your female viewers are more likely to know these products because it's to do with fabric? I wonder if I'm just misunderstanding (it is, like, midnight) but this is a bit reminiscent of the whole Hank Green knitting drama from a year ago. Obviously nowhere near as bad but it does feel a tad.. off? Especially combined with the line "look at it, you're wrong" that follows.

GladiWrites

Excuse you, what about the furry pornography WRITERS? I feel unseen.

Jack of Diamonds

Honestly I liked the "nay???" bit from the earlier drafts

Laslus

is "insane" also a term you wouldn't recommend? /gen. i think "wacky" and "stupid" usually don't express the idea that there IS a logic behind it, but a logic that only an evil person would follow. like whatever elon musk has going on inside his brain.

Laslus

hbomberguy and jenny nicholson colab when

The Guy With The Hat

I hate to be a pedant, but at 1:31:34, But Elizabeth Magie was not really a "Socialist", she was a Georgist. Georgism is different from Socialism in that it believes that the means of production should still be privately owned, just that Land, Resources, and its value are the only things a state should be able to tax, and that landlords are holding society back.

Matthew Devil

the original take of the opening “nay” joke hit a bit better imo

Laslus

can't wait for his next 5 hour video that halfway through shows him becoming the type of arch user that compiles his own kernel for no reason <3 <3 <3

Laslus

i started using open source whenever possible bc adobe blocked me from opening a .pdf and i just snapped. that's not even a software that people rely on, i can read a pdf on my browser!!!!!

raccoonhands

THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT AUTODESK! oh my god! i work for an engineering firm and the chokehold they have over all of us is disgusting. they're actively killing smaller firms because they can't afford to have a license.

Ollie

In all seriousness, how long we got for feedback? Because part of me wants to rewatch this, give time stamps of "there's a weird render error" kinda notes, but part of me is like "oh this is gonna be released in a week??? Shit ok give general notes!!"

Tania

I was listening to this at work and opened a PDF sent by a client and it told me for best viewing, download Flash with a link. Which of course lead to a page saying Flash is no more. Funny timing to come across it.

Hamish Chapman

the cut at 25:46 is too sudden and kneecaps the punchline because the setup doesn't have time to sink in. there's a long pause before you say "hey patrons" in the 'first 35 mins' cut and i think you should include that

Rover Bernhard

in the “children with firearms” joke, Bork is superimposed on a classroom with mostly Black children Please change that

nicole.

I missed the “one female viewer” joke because I was busy telling my husband, “actually, it’s pronounced cricket” so I dunno, I am just one lady but I think it was a good one.

Ollie

For the record, I blame Wakefield for this, he didn't scream into my mothers face loud enough so I got the MMR vaccine and got the tism. Lets ignore the fact that both parents definitely have the tism, its purely the vaccines, not genetics or how they raised me or anything!

Laslus

"Fender recently acquired PreSonus turning Studio One into Fender Studio Pro" is really giving "pluto and foob merged to make plubo"

レイ

1:35:53, in case that runaway horse hasn't been caught yet.

tess.m

there is a god

B Taylor

Sorry to seem nitpicky, but at 3:10:15 you claim the first gen iPod had a proprietary cable, but it actually used firewire which was an industry standard. Apple were the main user of it but you could absolutely get firewire on PCs. The issue with windows support was software related, and after a bit there were third party solutions (I think real player of all things was one of the things that supported it?) that would let you sync it on PC. Until iTunes and the second gen rendered it all moot, anyway. Indeed in terms of proprietary cables, it was after windows support was added when apple moved from a straight firewire to firewire cable to their actually proprietary 30 pin connector.

Erik Uden

I remember telling my macroecon teacher in 2020 that they're about to kill Adobe Flash and she just looked at me and asked “Why?” in the most accusatory tone, as if I decided that. I didn't know how to respond.

SuchaCaz

I think this video already addresses the main goal of enshittification: removing key features without factoring in a price change. The point is made clear. Although I think some points are made too clearly. The sections on cars, printers and exercise bikes feel their point is made in a few minutes. Maybe shorten them without removing those horrifying stories like the one about the kidnapped baby. Editing cause I just realized the amazing "Town with no name" reference and I can't wait for everyone on youtube to be confused by it.

WildJuniperBush

I liked it! It did grow a little long in the tooth toward the end though (presumably due to the pacing issues and lack of music that you mentioned). I also felt a weird disconnect when, after the car/smart home/etc. subscription stuff in the middle of the video, you went *back* to the Adobe/Apple stuff and spent the rest of the video there, with the conclusion being "use open-source stuff". I think that's a great moral *for* the Adobe/Apple stuff, but it doesn't address the larger issues with the smart cars, etc., which were brought up and then abandoned. I *liked* those segments, but they escalated the video's scope to something larger that never got resolved. Unless there's a way to use open-source software to get your Tesla or Peleton working, it may be best to cut that part and spin it off into a different video. Also, more random Blender animations! Keep crashing those pixels!

Daniel Kilby

I'm dying using the free Da Vinci version, if there's any spare codes going.....

Erik Uden

Wait, after Tommy Tallarico and James Somerton, this video is just calling out capitalism? No more drama, just class struggle? Wow.

Quitpayload

I feel awkward bringing this up, but here is goes. In one of the earlier Patreon previews when you first mentioned Nixon, I commented with the timestamp to that appearance and then quoted that lame Illuminaighti quote. You know the one, the "Tricky Dick" quote. Then in this video when you first bring up Nixon you say the same quote. Did he read my comment and then use that quote? I'm not trying to accuse you of plagarism or anything, I actually really hope that he read my comment and used the joke, it would be a really cool thing to brag about. It's also possible that you just independently had the same idea as me. After all, it's not exactly that clever of joke.

Kat

As a beginning aside, the patreon video player is very touchy and I don’t terribly care for it, makes scrubbing very challenging. I apologize if my timecode references don’t match up, I made my best guess based on the playback. That said, I have a few comments that I want to make that I think would make this better, but I want to emphasize that I’m not trying to dictate how you and Kat (wow does that get confusing as a fellow Kat who is a new patron) make things. On the whole, I really liked this, and I apologize in advance for some pedantic, nitpick comments. 00:21:10: is this glitch in the source footage or a rendering issue? Or is it a Patreon issue and the actual file doesn’t have it? 00:28:02: The audio quality noticeably changes here. I wonder if you could sample some of the ambient noise from the other takes or dead air and composite it into the audio file in some way? 00:33:20: is that glitching in the source footage, or is this rendering/platform issue? 00:37:16: Not really a critique but an anecdote: I experienced this first-hand. I worked at the IT department at my university during the time this Sibelius thing was going down. I had to deal with some extremely pissed off music teachers who were justifiably angry that their old versions of Sibelius weren’t working on a new computer, and the new version was so unusably bad that they had to use the previous version to keep doing the work they needed. I believe they eventually switched to Steinberg’s Dorico, who I think hired most of the fired Sibelius developers. At least a competitor did arise eventually. 00:43:00: would be kinda nice to have the branding images from the stores and the insurance company popping in separately or being highlighted as those two categories are named instead of appearing all at once, but also it does work as is. 00:57:38: might be nice to have some text showing the actual numbers of the vote: 42-58. 2:03:18: well, there is Apple Creator Studio now but you can still get perpetual licenses for Logic and Final Cut Pro (and the other items like Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Pixelmator Pro)…for now. Time will tell if Apple honors that agreement. Could also mention this in the Apple Chapter, acknowledging it could be useful context. 2:43:20, 2:46:11, 2:48:20: I wonder if these examples could be consolidated or put into a separate video, because while the examples are useful context, I don’t know if the ones that focus on non-software need more than a few examples (Juicero, Cars). Especially during the Smart Home example, it feels like a lot of repetition of what came before. I want to be clear, I like the choice of examples, but maybe could be relegated to a supplementary video or condensed? The temporal cost of this section is not that high, but the repetition does kind of hurt the pacing in my opinion. This is the only major section of the video where I started to feel a little fatigued, and I took multiple breaks when watching this. 4:22:34: To bring it full circle with advertutorials, I think it’s worth mentioning that making tutorials yourself in written and/or video form would be a really nice bit of completeness and gives another concrete example of what we can do. Mentioning the tutorial ecosystem is nice, but I think a call to action of “hey, if you learn to do something fun, share that too. Even if only one person finds that useful, that makes all the difference” would be really nice. As an ex software developer, nothing burns quite as much as seeing something similar to but not quite the problem you’re seeing, finding a solution yourself that is different, and realizing you have no good place to put it so others can find it without risking being flamed on StackOverflow. I think that the benefit of creative software is that you can make a post on a forum or update some documentation if it’s open source, or make a YouTube video that links to a written form in some other hosting environment, and to me that is something worth striving for.

Ryan B

I wonder how many cumulative hours I've spent listening to Hbomb's voice.

RumHam

Happy birthday!!

Erik Uden

Is the license plate supposed to be visible?

Christopher Doyle

Literally watched this whole thing with my 4 week old in hand

shougai

so glad clip studio paint was mentioned, it felt like such a punch to the gut when they announced it, cool world we live in

Venom Grump

Brave thought but billionaires were and still are massive babies

Temba, His Arms Wide

I don't think meaningfully, no. Music "piracy" was being discussed when 8 tracks, the precursor to cassette tapes, were still a thing. The music industry was upset because you could just record music of the radio. That's in the 60s and 70s, before personal computing really took off as a major industry. Im sure it happened, but i don't think many people were screaming about it like they do now

SkaveRat

Definitely needs the mention of enshittification at some point

Éléanore (eleanorsilly)

Thank you for actually checking the chinese railroad anecdote, I was wondering if the funny line was going to stay in the final product xD

RumHam

I see now that the reason this took so long to get here is that the subscription prices kept changing, so he had to go back and re-edit those sections every time.

Wander babyyyy

Substance Painter is available to purchase as a license on Steam for $200 !! It still has all the evil problems (no updating, no connection to the texture library, etc) but it is possible to acquire as a single purchase!!!! Probably the substance siblings are available similarly but I never looked into that like I did Painter lmao ,, amazing video it surprised me how optimistic it was I loved my viewing :]

Morandrew

If there's any space for a last minute edit, please, please, PLEASE add a "my mother's very proud" at 3:10:06

Sephiroth1204

Ok but just imagine how bad it would be if apple and adobe were the bad kind of monopoly that the government apparently thinks exists as a separate entity

CM RC

Not gonna lie harry, i spent the whole video worrying you weren't gonna bring up open source software, so the very end was a big relief! As an open source nerd, thank you so much for bringing this up

Stephi Anne-with-an-E

Not too be one of Those linux people, idk what your specific issue is, but I jumped into Linux Mint a little over a year ago and it's been SO MUCH EASIER than I had been led to expect. Not that everything's perfect, but the list of things that are missing/more challenging on Linux seems to be shrinking by the day.

Babushi

Towards the end when talking about animators making noise about Adobe once again doing it's evil thing. The noises you make feel like they should be animated.

thatgreenfur

1:19:25 Damn Harris why you gotta call me specifically out like that, that was legitimately frightening

Arla Scott

1:24:20 i thought horses weren't real!

matches

your s sounds are very sharp. consider putting a de-esser on your voice track :)

GDB

A really cool way to do this is to find a consumer advocacy organisation/right to repair campaign group for your country that is taking consumer legal cases against big companies. When you search around you'll see scammy law firm websites about joining class action lawsuits, those aren't the ones you want, it's the non-profit campaigning groups. I'm living in the UK and here it is Consumer Voice. Fun fact: the App Store ruling and the universal charging cable ruling both came about in part because of these types of legal cases! I believe the target orgs in different countries are coordinating cases against atm is MasterCard as they were were charging unfair fees to high street retailers and this cost was passed on to consumers and in the UK they've won the case and MasterCard have to pay £200 million to consumers! Another great route is Citizens Advice in your country, I've volunteered and donated. They help individual customers solve disputes by offering legal advice but just as importantly they gather data on offending retailers and bring this to the relevant watchdog bodies. Personally, I was able to get a full refund for a smart TV after an update introduced ads on the home screen that could not be turned off because this actually breached my consumer rights and I was able to use the right legal language to prove this thanks to Citizens Advice! I've actually gotten over £2000 back from companies in the past three years because of consumer rights breaches like this, including apps and software!

AdamOnHook

Man, I have to say, this video has so many upgrades that other hbomb videos don't have. There was a learning process behind this and I'm so here for it!!

Sunny Haven

I redeemed the DaVinci Resolve Studio code and installing it bricked Windows for me, lmao. Maybe it's a sign that the company that made it is gonna hit the "Become Evil" button any day now... and that I should just switch to Linux already. Anyways, fantastic video, Harry!! Amazing job as always :3

newq

A small point of feedback: it might be worth noting that James Cameron has gone on the record against gen AI, so I don't think it's a good idea to classify him like an AI bro given that that's a powerful voice against AI coming from someone as huge as he is in the movie industry.

whatyouhadisnevercomingback

amazing video, definitely the best yet, the only part that felt odd was the skit with puppet bork, i think it was the audible cutting in and out of the hiss from harry's audio track vs his voice over, or the lack of music, or both but it was the only point in this 4 hour ride of a video where i felt like the vid was dragging, and i have very low standards!

GDB

in case you're not aware — apple actually got in a lot of legal trouble in various countries for planned obsolescence in the last two years and have been forced to stop doing this. you can now replace iPhone batteries again as a result of some EU rulings! I can personally attest that after being on the upgrade cycle with iPhones for years, my refurbished iPhone bought in 2022 is still working just as smoothly as when I got it and I haven't even needed to get any repairs/battery replacements done.

Sunny Haven

Oh, I also was trying to redeem the code too earlier today, mostly for future-proofing in case I get seriously into video editing and DaVinci Resolve becomes a subscription model too. (Installing it bricked my Windows and I'm on break finishing this video before trying to go back to fixing it, lmao; maybe this'll finally push me to Linux.) I hope that didn't take it away from you! You clearly need it a lot more!

RazielMartelus96

It did not 😁 I got the code, but at the end of the 7 days it will unfortunately be free game for them to pinch automatically 😔

Anna HJ

I've had a Cricut for years and refuse to call it anything but cry-cut

Sarcastic Neutral

Was not expecting to see dad in this video. uhhh... rocket ship??? (_)_)::::::::::::::::::::::::::::D~~~~~~~~~

Zapact

Swag.

Enetor

I adore the joke at 1:49:12, this gave me as the kids say "quite the chuckle"

GDB

I think rather than explaining in-depth enshittification, you should point towards the fantastic educational work Cory Doctorow has done and allow viewers to learn about it themselves in their own way. My favourite (and I think ties into the creativity theme) is his fiction. He's a prolific award-winning novelist and I cannot recommend his heist novel The Bezzle enough. It's hugely entertaining and is also a great primer on a lot of the issues you touched on in this video. The villain of the novel owns apps that function in a similar way to Adobe, these complex issues are explained in a really fun way, and it's also peppered with characters fighting against technofeudalism in their everyday life that readers can ALSO do.

Ryan

I’m about 40% of the way through the video & I have an important script suggestion: you mention that Autodesk is trying to figure out how much they can punch their customers in the face without losing their business but it might be funnier to say punch them in the dick.

M Roos

Firstly, to address the actual questions you asked, I do think the video lays out the core structures and issues of both technofeudalism and enshittification well. That said, I didn’t catch you ever connecting either term with its concept. (i,e., just saying ‘this process/idea is called…’) though I watched about 45 minutes of the middle of the video lying down at lunch while trying to will my back to stop hurting so I might have just missed something there. To the solutions bit at the end, I do think it might feel a little muddled right now, but that may be down to the complexities of both issues and potential solutions in the political sphere. One practical option (albeit a very US-centric one) might be to call out some of the folks currently winning their primaries in the states who are exactly what you describe. I’m thinking especially of Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan as just one example, but there’ve been other wins from candidates who could use the shout out this year. Finally, and totally unsolicitedly: you use metaphors referencing horses twice: one around 1:24 and one around 2:28, and…huh???? (All jokes aside, both mentions actually stuck out to me because I expected some follow-up that didn’t arrive, so it was a little distracting both times.)

GDB

I believe the worsening of visual effects is actually down to worsening workers conditions — Davey Jones is often referenced as an example of a film that had excellent working conditions for CGI artists compared to a lot of films today and that is reflected in the artistry, as the team were given the time to craft something excellent rather than having to create under unhinged timelines as is the case with Sony films like Venom these days.

Jas Huff

I don’t disagree, but I think worsening conditions includes the tools they are working with.

M. Rooney Fox

The AVID keyboard is alive and well in my nightmares

nekomusumeninaritai

Edit: Please disregard. It is playable without DRM. Unfortunately I won't be able to watch rn bc it looks like the video won't play without DRM, but this is such an exciting milestone and I'm really looking forward to seeing the final video.

Big Red Badger

I hope all the ghouls pushing this "own nothing future" get their ######## smashed in ######### ###### ######### with a tea bag and a ################.

Beefboy49

was gonna say that one felt a lil misogynistic

Bad Poet

Liked that the puppet gun made Hbomb bleed red string. It made me pause and go rewatch the music video for Olivia Rodrigo's the cure

Rowan

I agree + am also disabled + I think you can just say evil

Beefboy49

the dialogue quality at the end with the car scene is quite jarring in relation to the earlier scenes moments befor

Holly Smith

Great video!! One suggestion: the 2:30-3:00 hour mark, when you're going through the different industries and their descent into subscription hell, I think it could benefit from funny title cards/sound effects for each industry. Like, say if Harry makes more and more distressed noise with each subchapter, it could break up the vast amount of information and give it a little more levity.

Felix Tischer

Can't wait for Adobe to become a wedding photography company

Mohamed Mubeen

You know what. I would buy fanfiction from Hbomberguy.

Moss

Perhaps I missed it, but as far as I'm aware companies are not fully able to prevent themselves from being acquired. If a purchase offer is strong enough I'm pretty sure the purchaser can take the smaller business to court for not accepting. But I'm not Mr. Legal Eagle so it's worth checking. That might be worth an inclusion. Otherwise, GLASS STEAGALL MENTIONED!!!!!

Kemi Stanton

I really appreciate the Reaper shout-out btw, I'm currently trying to learn it so I can get the hell away from Adobe audition

FilthyJasmineTea

I was jusssssst about to go to sleep… oh god

Deadbeat Horse

If I'm not wrong, the way Blackmagic does these Resolve license codes is: They aren't tied to accounts, anybody can activate any code, up to two computers can be activated at once, and activating a third will deactivate already-activated computers, though after a certain number of tries per week it just gets blocked. This is actually a pretty clever way to circumvent license-sharing/piracy because sharing a license basically just makes that license unusable since everybody will be scrambling to knock everybody else off of the license. Therefore, I recommend you configure your firewall rules to prevent Davinci from accessing the internet in case that helps (edit: it might not. apparently Resolve does online checks), and I recommend Hbomb not include the code in the final video so that maybe the scramble dies among Patreon subs, otherwise I think it's basically just trashing a license.

Tuesday Sellers

I don't think the video is missing a segment on "enshittification", I think the concept is explained well enough through all other existing contexts

JoeO

I'll give that one a try. Thank you. :)

Tuesday Sellers

He said "Sherman" and I started singing "Dixie". AWAY, AWAAAAY.

AstralScientist

Damn. It's good to see you back. Thank you for your hard work and your words of comfort. Really needed those. Thank you!

Anthony Skatz

“…Adding in a lot more music…” To be honest, that audio is not really the appeal of your videos at all. It’s your voice. Just because you might be looking to add a spice doesn’t mean the meal needs it at all. Unless it’s cayenne pepper. Always add that. Maybe just a photo of a bottle of that somewhere in the video.

Tuesday Sellers

Wow, I remember using Finale in my music tech class like 10 years ago, no idea it died. Guess that explained why people I've talked to recently on the subject hadn't heard of it.

Manatee Publicist

@47:19ish, the “Blizzard” fish isn’t on screen long enough (or maybe is too small?) for my worm brain to read/grasp the visual metaphor. And, the scene before (just now realizing it’s, I think, from Phantom Menace lmaoooo, a valid insert, please keep somehow if possible) doesn’t connect the whole fish metaphor for me. I think a second or two more on both ends, and possibly a Jar Jar Binks cameo, could easily resolve this.

Erk

Evil, gross, disgusting, vile, despicable, unreasonable, absurd. English is chock full of good words that don't inadvertently insult already margnalized people. I agree with this stance even though I find it hard to remember myself.

SD

I would love to see more of an explnation of enshittification, cory doctorows work is incredibly important to this conversation. This is amazing though! thank you for this <3

Molly

Ahhhh yes!! I love Blender. Learning it has given me the same dopamine rush as beating a Fromsoftware boss. As soon as I figure out UV mapping - which I'm learning from watching independent artist's tutorials - I will be unstoppable. I highly encourage anyone curious about the program to give it a shot. I promise it's worth it. (There's a million warm and kind things to say about this video but this is what I have the most personal experience with so I had to shout it out!)

Quitpayload

Hbomb, I'm very disappointed in you. At 1:28:00 you spread a dangerous piece of misinformation by implying the existence of something called a 'horse'

Em

After months of me joking that I would have started and finished my entire masters degree in the time it took you to make this video, you somehow went and released it on the day my masters thesis is due

Chloe Adams-Lopez

Americans mostly won’t get the dogging joke! That’s a UK specific bit of slang. Also, please consider changing “psychotic” to something else, it’s pretty stigmatizing of vulnerable people

Spaceman

a second Hbomb cocks a second gun behind the first Hbomb "Its not done yet. Add another hour"

MaskMeh

I love it! My only complaint: I kind of liked the shocked and confused "nae?" at the beginning more in the previous version.

V

You should probably give Cory Doctorow a call, although I didn't feel the absence of a discussion about Enshittification as much as I anticipated I might in the first hour. This video is mostly about acquisitions and monopoly power, which are related but background to Enshittification, which more describes the evolution of platforms and monopsony power. Still, he's on the board of EFF. Well done as always, this was quite the journey!

Steve Streza

Part X.2 Jaguar is an excellent joke that five other people will get. Thank you.

redgrimalkin

Here's some quick things that I have on my mind after letting this stew in my brain a little. I'll probably have more that I'll reply to this with in either an hour, a day, or never. - The The Town With No Name skit could probably have been integrated better but also I have literally no idea how you would do that. I'm kind of fine with it just being a quick non-sequitor that makes people like me go "haha that's cute!" since the general point of the skits is to be a breather. - The late muppet bork skit felt a bit off? Can't quite identify why though. - I found a few of the audio stingers in the middle a bit... discordant? Audially displeasing at least. Don't have exact timestamps but they were kind of grouped around the Zbrush/Clip Studio Paint bit if I remember. - If there were more visuals in the law segment then I think it'd feel a little tighter in the pacing department. That seems to stem from the chapter primarily being Harry's face talking to the camera for ~20 minutes. While it's a lovely face, anything gets monotonous after a while. - Maybe it's because I'm familiar with the terms already, but technofeudalism is only used once because in effect the entire video is about the idea. It's already explained well enough. - I saw someone suggest pointing to Cory Doctorow's work on the subject of enshittification instead of a segment on it, and I agree with them so I'll steal it and put it here. - Whoever made and/or puppeted those muppets deserves (1) some sort of award and (2) to become a true muppeteer (if they are not already one).

Bumbis McGee

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you should look up Keir Starmer's wikipedia page

Hannah McMullen

Yessssss Godot as the happy conclusion to the problem! I kept waiting for it and Blender for the entire video, they’re doing such wonderful work. Perhaps including a link to some of the wonderful open source projects for creative work would go a long way?

Ian Albert

As a programmer who has been more and more disaffected by my industry, this was a nice reminder that it doesn't need to be so shitty all the time, and that there are things that can be done to at least contribute to a better way, even if it's not gonna defeat capitalism overnight. I used to develop iPhone apps, and Apple was endlessly capricious in how our apps were made, rejecting our submissions randomly and making us adjust it to their liking. They're awful. While slightly tangential, I thought you'd touch on the John Deere or Caterpillar systems of selling you equipment and then requiring you to pay ongoing support as the only allowable repair and maintenance providers. A slightly different approach to the subscription model. That goes a little more into Right-to-Repair which is its own can of worms though, so understandable if it's too far afield. I don't recall the video actually defining technofeudalism. I hear the term used a lot and get the gist, but maybe it's worth a sentence or two to expand and clarify what it is. Loved the Illuminaughti reference.

Dacvak

I have a 5 hour flight tomorrow. This is PERFECT.

Mirror Joel

As a securities lawyer, I can confidently say that the concept of securities has been a net loss for society. But as a former antitrust attorney, I think we should dig up Robert Bork so we can knock him off again and take to the high seas.

Kelly Hayes

I have a lot of really big ideas about this so please disregard but maybe consider for future videos. 1. I always love how you end on a positive I think that’s the perfect impulse. I do think the intuition you are having on pacing relates to just how much doom we have to wade through before you get to that section. So essentially it’s pacing overall (again. A larger issue please skip over) 2. I think a LARGE reason all of this is happening and as it relates to AI is BECAUSE people have devalued the arts. The arts are always the canary in the coal mine, and it’s the artists this system went after first. I push back against a lot of these things in my life, and because I am usually the only artist in the conversation, it gets pushed back to take more about the general things (car subscriptions, dunking on the juicer) but a HUGE amount of artists and animators (many who are commenting) have been talking about the constant attacks on the tools they use. And while I love the self deprecating humor (our humor aligns sm) what you do is art. Artists deserve to get paid and have tools that don’t strangle the incoming artists from ever reaching potential. And I know it’s gotten to this point that is so vast, but artists were and still are on the frontlines of these changes. (Hopefully this doesn’t sound off the mark. And like I said, huge changes, so please disregard and just add on to another vid) An awe inspiring vid yet again! Congratulations to you and the team!

Alight

GASP!!!! VIDEO!

Duke86fan

Hour 1: fuck adobe Hour 2: the world is bad Hour 3: fuck Apple

Jaikob Davis

i tried to redeem the davinci resolve code but figuring out how to update the software was so confusing I gave up lol

Mirror Joel

Also I feel extremely betrayed that you have made me listen to a show about my job. For recreational purposes.

Rowan

Have to admit the ending calling out specific US politicians was a bit jarring. I feel like the point could be made while being less specific which would reduce debate over how good or bad those exact people are

Leif_millelnuie

I watched the plagiarism so much this reference has been burned onto my brainfor life.

tess.m

all ill say is: watch Tantacrul if you haven't already, he's got u

Marcin Wichary

A super small comment, but during the mention of car rentals I thought there would also be a mention of car leasing, which I think is more and more popular?

Han

this has been a deeply unpleasant watch and I still have an hour and a half left 😭👍

Kip Degeorges

Loved the video but my body was viscerally reacting to how the lead was buried with Blender/open-source. Hurt my actual guts. Very mean. (I personally love Inkscape, a quirky but still pretty great open-source vector illustrator)

GotOatmealk?

It might be worth noting that part of the deal with historical feudalism was that lords offered protection and governance to their tenants/serfs, which ties in with your point later (4:04:50) that this is one of the arguments used by tech giants today. When you first mentioned historical feudalism it flagged for me that you specifically said lords provided no benefit. In reality, they claimed to provide physical protection and local governance, extremely exploitative though it was. Not a huge deal to skip over, but I think it would provide some nice symmetry with your later point.

Brian

As someone who still pretends that Rothfuss is still writing the third book, there wasn't even a wait to complain about.

Brian

"They fake their death, and become a wedding photographer" Well, now I have to clean my monitor.

VAdaPEGA

This isn't helpful to the actual video but there's a European Portuguese word "desamerdar" which is to "unshit", meaning to work around something. It's the Antonym of "enshittification".

GotOatmealk?

Right?! It also makes me so sad that they've done so much to take one of the most fun punctuation marks from us. Em dashes are great and I want AI to get its grubby little hands off them

Vítor Medeiros

I'm so intimidated but increasingly I feel Linux is the only way out

Christopher Baggett

Speaking as someone who recently became a Linux person himself: jooooiiiiinnnnn uuuuusssssss.

Pandakaizen

I literally screamed at the screen in joy when that cameo happened.

David Turton

Hi hbomb, in the section 3 hours in, you mention how Apple didn't trap iTunes users into their ecosystem, but later trapped iOS users in entirely. I think another thing that might be worth mentioning is the fact they trapped *developers* for iOS into the Mac ecosystem as well - you can't build apps for the iPhone unless you're on a Mac (without workarounds), just another example of them forcing people to use their products with no possible alternative.

Claraby

First impression is that enshittification has been done to death, and that it's too easy to fall into the trap of just doing consumer complaints about products. I wouldn't unless you had something genuinely new to say about it

Dacvak

Oh shit! You confirmed the Chinese train Flash thing!

BKcook

only 4 hours? i didnt know you started making shorts

Jack D.

If you're going to discuss "enshittification", please do not perpetuate the semantic deterioration of the term. When Doctorow coined it, it referred specifically to two-sided markets adjusting which parties benefitted and which parties paid extra. First the market would subsidize both sellers and buyers. Then, once sellers were locked in, the market would extract from sellers to maintain positive relationships with buyers. Then, the buyers get squeezed too. However, the term is now widely used to describe anything getting worse in any way for any reason, including by Doctorow, who has sacrificed any insight he may once have had in order to be popular and widely-quoted. I have seen Silksong referred to as "enshittified" for being difficult, and Transformers toys called "enshittified" for having different surface-sculpt aesthetics than previous years. Please, Mr. Bomberguy, don't perpetuate this total collapse of language.

username here

Unless it is a rental, I would consider editing out the license plate of the car at the end but I'm paranoid.

Dacvak

“And then they fake their death and become a wedding photographer” holy shit 😂😂😂

Flightscream

In a roundabout way, I imagine this will have impact on Playstations attempts to get rid of physical media

Jonathan Marshall

Harris, even though Starmer resigned, don't kil yourself you're so sexy

Helena

I do feel the absence of an explanation of what Technofeudalism means, though that is because Technofeudalism is actually a bat-shit crazy idea when you go below the surface level of what it means. The usage I've seen of the term has mainly been through the lens of the world being controlled and manipulated by tech monopolies through monopoly things. While in reality its the idea that Capitalism has ended and been replaced by a system that closer resembles the pre-capitalist systems of authority and societal control. Without diving into the history this is blazenly anachronistic to wholly incompatible with the processes of free market monopolisation. In this its dismissive to the factors described in this very video that lead to the state of our world today. Beyond that I've really enjoyed the video so far!

Kasplat

Fantastic! As a software developer myself, I was thinking for much of the video "I wonder if he's tried the FOSS alternatives for creative work". Glad that question got answered :) "GPL3 is truly the only thing that can save us from adobe" ~Me, an evil man who publishes code under the BSD2 license.

M. C. T.

It's so sad that Adobe Flash died from Figma.

Ellen Thomas

oh amazing! thanks for letting me know, that's some good news at least 😊

Corbin Crutchley

I've only just started watching this video, so it might come up later on, but here's another fun fact about Flash and it's built-in programming language ActionScript: Adobe's acquisition of Flash almost killed JavaScript (the built-in programming language we still use to author every site on the internet). See, JavaScript is the trademark name (long story) for the programming language formally known as "ECMAScript". We used to version ECMAScript ("ES") as single-digit numbers until 2015 when "ES6" was rebranded to "ES2015". Most old-school web developers can tell you that "ES5" was a huge leap over "ES3"... But wait, what happened to "ES4"? Well, MacroMedia brought in a ton of ES3 into ActionScript, improved on it, and was trying incredibly hard to bring their changes back into JavaScript itself as part of a huge "ES4" release. After the acquisition from Adobe, it's my understanding that there was a ton of politics introduced that made doing so extremely challenging. Enough so that the group of industry experts leading the efforts to standardize the JS/ES language abandoned their efforts. Things got so bad that many browser vendors went their own way to fork the language to add new non-standard features that fragmented the web horribly for ages. It wasn't until years later and a massive downscaling effort that they'd regroup to create ES5 as we know it. Some features originally planned for ES4 even had to be punted into ES6. More reading: https://auth0.com/blog/the-real-story-behind-es4/ Just thought it'd be a fun aside to share with you all!

Xdust5

Well, hope this has the same world altering effects as the plagiarism video and Tony Tallarico

Hamish Chapman

"I wonder why tech companies go to Montreal" i don't know, actually, and a quick scan of google doesn't help. a bit of digging and i found out about the tax breaks and lower wages, but a lot of people are not going to do the digging

S. R.

According to an insider, apple was also behind the tumblr porn ban.

redgrimalkin

Okay, more time has given me a bit more to critique this - feels like you could cut some stuff. Every segment feels necessary, but sometimes it feels like there’s just one too many examples of something or a little too much time is spent on a certain topic, that sort of thing.

Annie Spooky

I'll probably have more to say later but I'm up to the good and services bit and I just want to highlight how funny your choice of microphone as the rental is. An sm57 costs roughly $100 and is the most indestructible piece of equipment I've ever used. I have seen someone mic a drum kit with a 57 that literally had a nail though the body, like all the way through. I've run one over with an suv at work, picked it back up, and used it the next day. If you'd found a way to lose your money on that rental by damaging it I'd have been genuinely impressed

Annie Spooky

I fucking love Resolve congrats lol

Calliope Borden

My one note on first watchthrough—maybe it's just because the video is SO long, but the call to action at the end feels a bit disjointed. i don't know if this would require too significant of structural changes, but maybe mentioning the EFF earlier, and actually using an example where they've made a difference as an anecdote earlier in the video and mentioning some of the things people can do to help there, and then keeping the more impassioned/in depth call to action at the end would help it feel more integrated into the video and help people who don't make it through all 4 hours of this know what they can do to help? I don't know if that's possible this late in the game but I do know that i think the EFF stuff is probably the most important stuff for people to see and I worry being so late will make it the least viewed part.

Phil Möhler

I want to see this in IMAX, as Harry intended 😁 Superb video, as usual 🙂

Darren Gibson

I went through a phase of falling asleep to it

Chris Platts

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the 20% VAT that makes the vast majority of the difference. And the US price would be listed without any tax added -- given how highly fragmented the US tax system is (federal, state, local) -- I've no idea if a software rental purchase would attract tax in the US, but it's possible it'd be taxed somewhere in the US so the USD price shown might not be the total for some buyers.

Kemi Stanton

I agree! I thought that comedic bit hit way harder in the first cut, the confusion sounded very genuine and natural

Peter Larson

Definitely agree. Some sections lose a bit of steam because the rant goes on just a bit too long in my taste.

Kemi Stanton

I was literally on the cusp of finally buying CSP ex when they announced that. Now I can't stop saying "yarrr" and "me hearties" for some reason

Verdana

Finished. Now make another.

Chris Platts

Agreed. And Flash on the Mac was particularly terrible. Jobs identified Flash as the number one source of crash reports on the Mac -- contestable, but as a Mac user at the time, it fits with my experience. If you'd only ever used Flash on Windows, you'd really not have seen quite how terrible it was on the Mac. Flash also exploded in popularity as Apple were in the middle of moving their computers from the 'Classic' MacOS to MacOS X. Flash was Windows-first C++ on top of an abstraction layer, on top of Apple's 'Carbon' API (intended as an interim bridge between OS9 and OSX) and used ancient APIs for rendering. It was miserable. You could watch a Mac laptop's battery count down whilst watching YouTube (and you'd have to turn up the speakers to counteract the fan noise). Now, the iPhone has always run a subset of MacOS. I'd very much like to know more about the demo Adobe had of Flash running on an iPhone. Was this a modern reimplementation of Flash that didn't utterly nuke the nascent iPhone's battery and CPU and which ran securely? If it was, then I'm sad we never got to see it, especially because it could've been the basis for an OS X Flash that actually worked well. If Adobe just bodged together a demo for the iPhone with all the same problems as the Mac version, then I'm glad we never had to put up with it sucking dry our phone batteries just watching videos.

me

i got clotheslined by a sudden stray adr cut at one point but it's ok i'll just live here on the ground now

Andrew Simpson

This video's density and length are so high that when watched in the background, it exceeds the maximum amount I can really retain, and I've already watched it three times while failing to really comprehend all of it. HBomb has finally made a second screen video that is so long it is effectively infinite.

Kemi Stanton

Came in here to actually see if anybody else cleared this up, as I'm an old fart who had to build a PC with a FireWire card back in the dinosaur ages. I don't recall anything with realplayer but ironically enough I used it with Adobe Audition

Tibor Van Cutsem

Neat. My main feedback is that there should be an explosion every time you say "they went bankrupt".

Lynn!

Only a minor point, but while we don't have the EFF in the UK, we do have the Open Rights Group who are much smaller, but do good work advocating for digital rights and freedoms

Kat

Yes absolutely!!

Kat

Man carrying thing actually just did a funny bit about this! We avoided using the term enshittification for exactly that reason—in particular because we weren’t really talking about the relationship between platforms and sellers, and leaving monopsonies out of it entirely. Since people keep using the term enshittification to describe the things we talk about in the video without an understanding of the mechanism itself, we thought it could made sense to mention this particular issue. You miiiiight get your wish.

Cryptidwithacappuccino

The eclipse over the UK tonight is an omen to show that Hbomb has returned

Tony Guerin

Loved the video and was ligitimitely jumpscared when I saw Sibelius mentioned. As a composer, the software seems so mismanaged compared to Dorico and even Musescore. On that note, I am very curious if there is going to be a segment about Musescore. It is a great site but I think that Musehub and the Musescore website have some issues that make Musescore guilty by having the same first part of the name even though Musescore is only Open Source.

Kat

Yes, he was actually very helpful in recommending organizations as I was vetting what initiatives to highlight! It’s a video that feels constantly on the periphery of the concept of enshittification but isn’t quite, haha.

Luck

The explanation about landlords and the jokes there in of “luckily we got rid of all those and they don’t exist anymore” imo make it clear enough. There’s a balance to strike between not giving adequate context and having the script go “merriam Webster defines blank as…”

Luck

I agree. Either the car and peloton bits need to be moved to a bonus video, or it needs to not be in a sandwich of adobe/apple discussion, or it needs to come back, if briefly, in the conclusion.

Nick Hodgie

At 1:50:00 odd there's a reference to 2025. May need to flag it's 2026 now and still relevant sadly.

laurathejones

Being vulnerable and admitting I get all my information from YouTubers, I'm pretty sure Jenny Nicholson spoke about that juice machine and mentioned they used QR codes on the juice bags. So no second party could make generic bags that also worked in the machines (think coffee pods). Such false certainty that they'll be successful!

bernievidz

This video is turning out amazing so far and I really enjoyed this cut. I know a lot of people are talking about how dry the information is, and I'm sure a lot is going to get cut for the better. But I really appreciated how indepth and granular this version got, separate from what is probably best for the wider audience. It certainly isn't all necessary to convey the point, but the minutia of why and how things became the way they are today really makes you feel the gravity of both what they're doing, the implications, the effects, and how deep that rot goes. Even stuff like how all those different 3d modeling programs evolved, how many got shuttered, I'm glad you took the time to have that level of understanding and to me laying it all out like that was very interesting. People are right to say this video was dry and depressing, but that's a dilemma almost intrinsic to the video's premise itself. not intrinsic to saying "adobe is bad", but to explain what is going on at a macro-level. This is important information that people should know about, however it being so dry and difficult to understand is precisely why the true scope has largely been overlooked. Trying to explain all these moving parts to someone and have them both care and understand why it matters is an extremely difficult task. although you guys should try your best to alleviate it, to a certain extent this was always going to be a reality for this video. esp when a lot viewers might have no personal experience at all working with these programs (Its like that scene from Clerks Animated where they're exposing Leonardo Leonardo's extremely complicated plot to take over the world and by the end there's only one person left in the audience and he doesn't even live there) For the on-set location scenes and higher production value bits, I thought they progressed well throughout the video and were all pretty funny. I think taking advantage of all the different set pieces helped a lot with that. the puppets were also great and I liked the recurring shoot out gag

Max D

At 3:19:00 you say that "Google's integration" of the 30% cut is less vertical, since you can still install .apk files from out side the Play Store. This is no longer true and will change in 2027. For more info check out keepandroidopen.org

Erling Rostvåg

Anyone else notice how Hbomb started editing in loads more guns after going to America? I'm 43 minutes in, and hoping there will be a self-referencial joke about it later.

Hakase

This is mentioned at 4:03:00, though to be fair that is quite a bit later.

Shigureeeh

Others had similar feedback, but I thought I’d chip in all the same: I think the Cricut joke about your “one female viewer” should probably be changed. I know it’s just a joke, but a recent misogynistic video about knitting has made many crafters hyper-aware of such things (which is good), so this jumped out at me immediately. Also thank you for quoting Blaire’s Tricky Dick line. Finally my vocal stim is recognized even more!!!

Marlowe Holmes

The bork puppet really brings this all together.

Dave Connor

i liked the nick robinson reference XD

Fey

While not as bad as Apple, Valve also has an effective monopoly on the PC gaming inudstry. There is no real competition. GOG is essentially a novelty store, and itch doesn't make a real profit. If your game gets banned from Steam for arbitrary reasons (which has become a norm for Visual Novel fans and has recently made headlines outside of our bubble with Horses), then your chances at making profit are extremely shot. That's also not to mention how Steam essentially killed physical releases on PC. There's a lot more that can be said about Valve's monopoly, and how much people excuse it because they're supposedly "the good guys", but it'd be nice if there was a short addendum at least alluding to it.

Sean

Idk, a lot of it seems rambly but then it cuts right back around to tying it all right back to the original thing. Plus the side topics (if I remember them all lmfao) are all immediately relevant information to have when discussing the full issue and its complexity.

Tom Hanson

The 'car brake screech' sound at the end of the video is kinda disorientating since it pans from the left to the right, but the car is visually centred and driving away. Maybe make it mono and fade it a little instead?

luvkirby4ever

Absolutely blown away by the quality of the Bork puppet xD

Tom Hanson

Wonderful work to everyone involved. Harry, you've mentioned before that you're extremely conscious of the ballooning length of your content, but I'd like to tell you that there wasn't a second during watching that I was consciously aware of it's length. There is not a wasted moment, and every point and visual presented is entertaining and interesting in a way that I feel the majority of people would fail to achieve. Thank you to you all.

ash4367

I mean there is still freebsd and openbsd which are even more intimidatimg

CainEnable

a third Hbomb cocks a third gun behind the second Hbomb "Comedy comes in threes."

dariasus

Not really a critique I was just wondering if anyone else thought at times that they heard a different guy speaking when it was actually Harry? (Yes, I admit I was drawing while watching (not Furry porn though)) The different recording circumstances of the video must have thrown me off probably?

Stigcrafter

Ohhhh, I thought it was straight up ADR and was even going to comment maybe cut to b-roll instead 😅

Kris B.

Poor little Amorphium. It allowed modeling 3D objects without wireframes and direct painting on the surface way back in 1999.. Super weird that no one bought it. As far as I can find, it just quietly died..

Cole Bendall

Musician here - appreciate the discussion of how shit Sibelius became. Also lamentably under informed of the impact of Bork - this cut giving a bit more context is very helpful.

ColdFire

Linux can be intimidating if you expect it to be the same as windows or Mac. Go in with an open mind and with the idea that you will use new and different software. It's an exciting new world to discover ! Kinda like how Harry discovered new creative tools

Stigcrafter

This video is dangerous because it makes part of me desperately want to go down a rabbit hole of playing around trying to cut it down somehow Still processing my thoughts, but my initial reaction is it feels like two really good videos that are indeed deeply intertwined, but need a tad bit more squeezing to merge into one video that’s twice as good as either of them A specific idea on that note is it may be good to somehow getting to the old western town quicker, since it’s the whole setting of the video, and the Film Riot section does also feel like it stays around a tad long in comparison, especially when it’s just an example in the tutorials tangent (ooo alliteration) rather than setting up structure for the rest of the video That is a pretty freshly formed thought though, there may be a more helpful form of that note I haven’t formulated yet

Artur Sosnowski

Great video, 4 hours came and went. Rolling notes below: 2:52:14: Boosteroid's not dead (yet). Graphics mismatch.

Kris B.

You are the reason I can't get Viking Berry!! Damn you!!

You_Gotta_Be_Crazy

“This isn’t a call out - this isn’t one of my normal videos, where I criticise someone and then they fake their death and become a wedding photographer” This gave me the most abrupt explosion of laughter that I think I’ve had ever

V

Yes, this exactly! For this reason I appreciated the direct reference to Tim Wu, as his recent book seems more relevant to the discussion.

yuko

Made some pacing and continuity notes aswell as some notes about visual and auditory issues or general quality changes that could be beneficial. I know you probably have this system of quality control streamlined, but I think if even a single one of them can help the experience of the video, I believe it's worth mentioning - especially because annotation like this is part of my job and i just enjoy doing it, it helps me engage better with the content i watch. I've split them up, so if you don't care about a certain type of feedback, you can just skip past it. I've also included 2 news stories not mentioned in your video i wanted to mention just as a footnote because I think they're interesting to mention. As an Adobe Premiere Pro user, it's always funny watching your videos knowing you use Prem Pro and seeing stuff like the highlighted text never having real "square" edges because of how I know Prem Pro's masking tool works. Great stuff as always! Possibly Missed Elements Graphical & Visual Errors Suggestions Surrounding Timings & Visual Elements Google API & Unity Runtime Greed **Possibly Missed Elements** I don't have a timestamp but at some point you talk about Adobe Animate being attempted to be killed by Adobe and I think during that section you should re-mention how in the intro Adobe Animate "replaced" Flash to tie stuff together a bit. 3:56:02 I think it's worth mentioning briefly that Apple tried to get around the EU USB-C enforcement by making non-Apple-made USB-C chargers charge worse than Apple branded ones, but then got caught before launch and stopped any plans from doing that after a threat from EU officials. ( https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tech/apple-eu-chargers-cables-regulations-usbc-cables-speed-b1079076.html ) ~3:57:00 Lina Kahn was heavily involved (being the head of the FTC at the time) on the American side of the Adobe Figma merger and might be worth mentioning, considering how recently she was mentioned. The UK C&M and the EU Commission were the nail in the coffin, but American pressure did exist as a result of Lina Kahn. **Graphical & Visual Errors** At 0:44, I think the gun should point more center rather than the downwards angle it's given as it appears to just not be pointing at the subject. At 40:00, when making the article fill more of the screen i think it should also fill the bit at the bottom, not sure how to go about that, but the tab of green and bottom of the bin feels a bit off considering how long it holds on that screen. At 46:21, the "mechanism" text should not be grey because it doesn't stand out from the background as well as I think it probably should. At 55:28, you should nest the text and image of Markiplier (assuming you're using adobe prem pro) and then fade the text out so that you can't see the "market power" text through the image as they both fade out. Nesting and then fading them turns them into one entity rather than them being 2 fading at the same time and merging kinda weirdly. At 1:08:50, you should fade in an effect to highlight the text "homosexual marriage" as the shot comes to a close. My eyes were immediately drawn to "on the one hand" and the more in-focus text during the shot. At 1:17:04, you should probably switch in and out the actual Adobe logo rather than the 2 parts of the "mouth" as I noticed the Aldus logo disappearing behind it because of the cracks in it. At 1:33:54, I think Cap'n D's audio should be changed to have slightly boosted high end and more compressed low end, as it sounds really unnatural, bass-y on headphones. At 3:40:44, the shot of you on the floor is kinda super dark and could benefit from brightening somehow, especially because the "reverse" shot of the bar is comparably *a lot* brighter. 4:26:52 & 4:28:01 I think the horn is a bit too loud, considering I turned up the video to hear you better for the "outro" sequence. **Suggestions Surrounding Timings & Visual Elements** At 5:46, you show an image of Macromedia, then Flash getting "shot" by Adobe. This type of visual happens a lot throughout the video and is usually combined with a gunshot sound effect, and I think it should be here as well - albeit quieter (same with 7:43 but probably should be re-timed with the addition). At 9:37, I think this visual should be re-timed a bit, as I had to go back to pause so I could read the name of the tutorial, as the text is barely on screen. At 28:02, the audio quality change is EXTREMELY jarring - at least if you have headphones on. I don't know if it's *bad* per say but I think it should be at least visually mentioned if just that audio is kept . The same can be said at 1:49:12. I think it should either cut to the voiceover as the graphics come on screen or the graphics are just on screen beforehand. At 30:29, I think you could cut to the "but in the-" early after you close the door. I think it would make the cutback to it a bit funnier while not affecting the pace too much. At 31:29, you could probably cut the "and i don’t have a yellow shirt" i think just cutting to "who owns a yellow shirt" is funnier. The 43:41 cutaway feels a bit jarring, maybe just be a visual addition/element instead, especially because I think the Monopoly™ cutaway/cut-in is way better implemented at 1:31:18. At 46:57, I think the voiceover and visuals should cut back in a little bit earlier. At 56:17 i think you could cut the "Watergate" line unless you fade in an image of Illuminaughti or something visual. I think most people get the reference just by the "tricky dick. very cool man" line and wouldn't get it from the rest of it, but if they didn't, adding a visual "flair" may help. At 59:13 i think a cutaway should be added to some degree until the 59:19 cut, whether that be highlighted segments from the book (kinda like at 59:57) or a different visual element. At 1:01:06 i think the "black rock" line should include a visual element saying who they are wheather through highlighting a news article about them or other sources as its never really mentioned in the video to a degree that feels satisfactory. During a section of the Bill Gates Microsoft deposition i think you should add a visual flair showing, like a YouTube bar at the bottom, showing the length to better emphasise it being 11 hours long and publicly accessible. At 1:32:14 i think the landlord titlecard should happen just after you say "landlord's game" and you read the "part" name, as I think it's a better transition to the next part. 1:49:25 I think you should keep the background/Adobe stuff there and layer the "friend from high school" footage on top rather than cutting back to the camera shot, as it feels jarring with the audio not changing At 2:51:33, I think it jumps back too quickly, should sit on the explosion (perhaps accompanied by a sound effect) for longer rather than jumping back to graphics and voiceover as quickly as it does (the "it" felt pretty cut off and not like it had room to breathe). At 2:52:50 or after 2:53:25 to parallel the previous one, I think a graph of the average RAM price should be shown around here at some point - especially considering how noticeably worse the price got compared to the GPU price increase in 2018 shown just before. At 2:56:35, I assume you've probably tested it, but I think the gradient between the blur and non-blur should be a bit bigger if possible. At 2:59:53, noticeable change in lighting that could be fixed with partial cropping of the background (bottom left has the most notable changes, but doesn't ever really get covered by you or an on-screen prop past this cut) and colour changes. Maybe you've done it, and it's the best it's going to get. At 3:03:42, should cut off a tad later to include the start of "thing" in "anything" At 3:33:50, I think the "walking in" animation should be combined with some quiet footstep sound effects. At 3:40:42, I think the "is that a puppet gun" line is unnecessary, as multiple shots of the gun have been seen throughout the video as sort of graphic B-roll, so this exclamation feels unnecessary and can probably just be the gunshot after "protestant" if you reckon the footage would work with it. At 3:41:19, I think some sort of anticipation sound should happen as the shot holds before you stand up into it OR it should cut to it a bit later. At 3:42:04, I think the wind sound should cut off when it cuts to you or just have the wind sound be a bit quieter. 3:52:34 It's likely just something planned to happen before this video was exported, but i defo think you should show the highlighted court case over the text with background. 4:11:59 Probably make the M-dash look more like an M-Dash by stretching it out and giving the text a black outline so it's easier to finish reading. 4:21:25 Might be worth mentioning OBS somewhere near the end, considering it's also Open Source and funded similarly to Godot and Blender. Included this note at this timestamp because you mentioned "recording your screen". 4:23:16 Should zoom into your face for the "I feel so alive" shot. **Google API & Unity Runtime Greed** There was an era of the internet I wasn't born to live through, but have heard lots referred to as "open API culture" where the idea of the internet and its platforms having open and freely shared API to help third-party products and, by extension, innovation. However, from around 2011 onwards, companies started shutting down all those systems pretty suddenly (known as the APIcalypse), and over time, it keeps happening more and more. In 2012, Google started charging for Google Maps API usage, but kept it open as free if you stayed under 25k+ requests. In 2018, they increased the price of this by ~1400%, making companies like the game GeoGuessr, which had long had partially free usage suddenly had to up their prices and get rid of free usage as it would have literally bankrupted them. Another situation that feels similar was in 2023 when Unity attempted to introduce the "Unity Runtime Fee", which aimed to charge developers a flat fee every time someone installed a Unity game. This was to be applied to both games made in the future and made previously, developers exceeding downloads of 200k and $200k in revenue would have to pay money directly to Unity every download after that. This created an obvious issue where games made cheaply for fun would be essentially killed overnight. The game "Crab Game" received public attention around this situation, as it fell under this umbrella as a free game; the developer had made money from the Steam marketplace and in-game purchases. The solo developer would have had to pay ~$5.6 Million directly to Unity while running both games to a loss as a result of this. ( https://www.gamesradar.com/viral-developer-says-their-free-survival-game-and-squid-game-parodies-would-have-cost-them-dollar56-million-under-new-unity-rules/ ) This fee was cancelled in Septemeber 2024 as a result of the backlash. ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-66810296 , https://x.com/DaniDevYT/status/1701650631948214393 ) As much as this feels tangentially disconnected from the video slightly, it comes back to the central point about companies making something free or cheaper, leading people to use it, then charging when it was apparent they could get away with doing so because customers had nowhere else to go. Sorry if any of this for whatever reason is wholly unnecessary and more of a pain to go through but i appreciate anything and all that's taken into account. Thanks, as always for the informational video and content. :)

Jonathan Marshall

Maybe a more in-depth discussion of piracy would be nice? Like explaining why it isn't just an easy fix to the problems with renting software.

Joe Howard

Absolutely impeccable. I did find your original version of the opening gag about the word nay funnier though. Also the “you don’t know me” on the screen screen gag is kinda hard to hear, but still so good

Alva-Loke

I agree, it doesn't land even if it's supposed to make fun of people who are nitpicky and talk about women as females

BlueScotsEyes

Indomitable human spirit. *Makes another check in my box that says 'evidence hbomb's favourite anime is Gurren Lagann'*

James Waumsley

Thank you so much for sharing it, this video was incredible. Funny, made a lot of great points, loved it. Everyone who worked on this did a great job! My one criticism, and I understand this isn't the most joyous feedback to receive, is that I think the whole section on advertutorials is cuttable. Please don't get me wrong, it was great stuff, super-informative, and every time you've released a new update of this video's progress I've watched the entire thing and it's been a joy every time. But it goes for, what, twenty minutes, right at the start of the video? And you openly acknowledge at the end of it that it was completely tangential. The only times it comes up are the mention of Film Riot supporting an alternative solution briefly, and then folding the tutorials back in at the end - but frankly I don't think it's enough to justify the loss of pacing. It's just bizarre that over 4 hours of a 4:28:58 video is about one consistent subject, and then the remaining 20 minutes is on a tangential one, and those 20 minutes open the video. I appreciate the main issue with cutting it is that it provides the context for why the rest of the video is set in a saloon, and it is utterly impractical to justify it without that section. My three potential solutions for this are as follows: 1) Just cut it. The viewer wondering "...but why a western town though?" isn't video-breaking, and Hbomb has done stuff like this in the past. (I think of the Soy Boys Measured Response video where over the course of the video Hbomb is captured, locked in a basement, and escapes, with no context or reasoning, just as a funny bit throughout the video.) 2) Move it further back into the video. Open with the point of the video a bit more directly, and bring up the tangential point later somewhere in the middle. Unfortunately I think the rest of the video probably flows a bit too well for it be seamlessly added in, but you're smart people, I'm sure you'd be able to find a way. 3) Release it as a separate video in advance of the main one. That way the content isn't wasted, it provides context for the main video, it acts as a teaser for the main video (and can be referenced back easily in the main video with minimal changes), but doesn't mess up the pacing of the main video by putting a relatively superfluous 20 minutes at the start of it. If you ignore this and keep advertutorials bit in, it'll be fine and the video's still great with it. But I figured I'd throw the opinion out there, since you asked for notes and even specifically mentioned the pacing. Thanks again for the video!

seán ó mhúin

small nitpick but in some of the shots theres a lot of echo, particularly in the ranch-house-living-room, and after a while it gets quite distracting

Snoucher

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ava

As a TF2 and Half-Life fan, this didn't even register as being something to "wait" for.

Ava

I appreciate you adding jokes most people won't get like the Gameboy Airtag one.

Riwhi K

I agree as someone else with psychosis! It reinforces stigma and feels really alienating to me whenever people use it as an insult or as a synonym for bad things. Also as an answer to someone above, I also dislike insane as a word to mean the same thing.

airborneice

I'm really happy you mentioned the adobe animate scare that happened while this video was in progress. I'm a 2D animator (but I use toonboom, so different chokehold) and I saw in real time as loads of my peers suddenly feared for their livelihoods and scrambled to find alternative tech that was both reasonably priced and less likely to get nuked in the future. Not to mention so many shows actively in production would have been screwed, with assets and entire episodes of work impossible to access a few months down the pipeline, had adobe gone through with this. Yeah it all turned out fine, but it was a real-time, harrowing reminder that all our livelihoods can just get yanked away on a whim and for no fucking reason. I hate it here. This video couldn't have come at a better time, truly. Anyway, fantastic video. The way this starts out as a lighthearted 'how these tech companies suck' and then transitions into instances of these practices actively, LITERALLY harming people is absolutely chilling. This video was well worth the wait.

Rho

Honestly, I think this seems like the least ranty video he's made in a while. Everything seems to tie together

TyrosineTek

Great video and I do have a couple of insights that be helpful: For the times you mention gaming, Helldivers 2 might be interesting to look into. In addition to its own consumer controversy, it uses a depreciated game engine…Autodesk Stingray. Max Weber’s Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism is a really good book that talks about early monopolistic behaviours due to changes in labour and could help the transition going into chapter 5 (I was hesitant to suggest this until Bork used Protestant as an insult). Softbank is a tech investment firm that could provide some good segue material with its long history in tech. (I’m assuming you’ve already decided to avoid going into the whole Jack Welch topic of former GE staff going on to gut companies for personal profit.) Everything else I can think of would only detract from what the team have made. Well done, another masterpiece.

newq

As bad as things in this timeline are, just remember that there is absolutely no reason to believe the birth of the open source movement was an inevitability. We just as easily could have been living in a timeline where it didn't exist. NEVER forget how lucky we got. And never forget that we owe it so to a handful of neurodivergent geeks in academia who changed society for the better by envisioning a better world.

James Baker

Glad you got to use the word extrudes, i am now supporting the EFF. Thank you for your work <3

newq

I thought I was the only one who remembered.

Kate Ashwin

please try clip studio! i've worked in comics for years and it's what i use, it's honestly better for comics in 99% of ways! i only use an very ancient (and totally legit) version of cs3 now for print conversion and converting to cymk. clip is just better for the bulk of comic production! i promise!

Mirco Franchetti

I honestly forgot how your voice sounded like before clicking play, but I'm glad I stayed. Great work!

Yani Kapitanov

What's wrong with the Toyota Corolla? :/

Sad Gay Demons: The Musical

I don’t know if this would be relevant to anything, but there’s a competitor to Clip Studio and Photoshop, and you only pay for it once: Procreate. My roommate has been using it for years, and it still hasn’t gone the subscription route. It IS exclusively available on Apple products right now, which is basically the only reason I have an iPad, and it isn’t open source, but they’ve been updating it for quite a few years without charging anything extra, and you can create really amazing art on there, practically on par with Photoshop quality (though Procreate probably has about half the special tools as PS). Anyway, yeah, just thought I’d throw that out there.

Raphael “Bwnci” Legall

Really amazed how positive I felt finishing one of the most depressing videos you've made, and that includes the one about torturing children to spread preventable disease, for profit. Also glad the donuts, at least, got a mention. Some great improvements to the live action segments too, they definitely land much better now. P.S. Starmer isn't really gone.

Nashew

I hope this video makes Adobe fake their death and then come back as a wedding photographer

Jokerx

Great video, I took some time to think and slept on it before writing this feedback - It felt a little bit too ranty in some places, like, the whole video is supposed to be an attack on adobe and mega-corpos, sure, but some parts just lose their gas because it feels like they run on a little too long. Also, a jarring amount of time in the latter half of the video is spent talking about Apple, which wouldn’t be a bad thing if the video was called “Apple Must Die,” but it’s not, so that section began to feel a little redundant. Talking about Steve Jobs for that long gave off Somerton saying “I just wanted to point out how much of a tool Bob Chapek is” Otherwise, I think it’s a great video that is an amazing call-to-action, and I wouldn’t mind if it was released in its current state, but those are the things I would personally change.

Eric Roels

Holy crap it's beautiful! I'm sure many others like me will be screaming "FOSS, you idiot!" at the screen the whole time, so I'm glad you gave it some time at the end. And, yes, you should switch to Linux. You'll absolutely love it, I promise. Start with KDE Plasma if you want something familiar. AAAAAAAAAAA I can't wait for this to post publicly so that I can not shut up about it!

Paul Green

Enshittification is def an important aspect of all this, but idk where to plug it in. May be better as a supplementary video. Good work though. There wasn't much i wasn't already aware of in it due to trying to be conscientious, but i found it equal parts entertainning and infuriating. The best kind of educational video in todays world

ByYourCommandIGuess

Amazing video, lol, but two addendums I feel the need to point out; 1- The ruling of the Apple v Fortnite case looks weird, but only if you approach it from the perspective of tech monopolys. In actuality, the judge made that ruling because there was a second, more deceptive, Gordian knot in play, relating to software ownership. There's a Channel Moon video delving into the topic if you're interested, and it *is* relevant, but it's not really something I think could justify being included this late into the process lmfao. 2- Some products (namely Substance Painter and Designer) *do* still have perpetual licenses. Through *Steam*. Hmmmmmmmmmmm-

Clockwork Clown

Im still making my way through the vid, but its wild listening to the history of all these design companies and remembering the struggles of getting ahold of affordable software back when i went to uni for animation. I remember that we were switching back and forth between maya and autodesk for the 3d modeling course, but then we stopped being able to use audodesk due to licence issues (i wish i hadnt chucked away all my animation/design magazines the last time i moved because i remember a 4 page spread about the death of ?autodesk, and i was so confused how something i installed on my computer could die if i kept the .exe intalation files...the good old days). Anyway, eventualy, 2 year into my course, i knew enough about the industry to decide animation would be a fantastic hobby instead and jumped ship. (Though now i just make quilts, because windows updates made my £1000 tablet laptop unusable, and i refuse to buy the same thing again for 3 times the price and filled with AI i wont use and can't uninstall)

arcainchaos

Feedback: It’ll be your best, if you fix all the problems

Darren Gibson

Uh-oh Today Adobe have used the acrobat updater to add a new program to computers bypassing security and coopting the screen grab function to launch their own program - new chapter incoming?

Jahaha

Holy mackerel! I thought this would never happen! Overall this is a great video and makes me want to throw away all of my apple products in the hole with the landlords. However, I do see two issues that may or may not hurt the chances of people seeing the finished product. One that may not be a huge one but may get you in trouble with youtube. The other that might be a bad look seeing that the previous video was about plagiarism. First, all of the guns might make this video get flagged because youtube doesn't like people getting shot on their platform, this issue I think won't cause a huge grievance. Because youtube has allowed guns on the platform in the past. However, if the video does get flagged because of the gun violence, then less people will see the conclusion and hurt our chances to help get these big stupid dum dum money people brought down. Second, I think this is more going to be fixed when the final product gets finished, but I do want to say just in case it doesn't happen. I saw two of quotes not be properly credited. I think it could be seen as a little hypocritical to not properly credit after making a huge video about plagiarism. Below are times in the video that I saw that could be considered not credited properly. I only saw two and both quotes are papers that Harry said the names of before reading, but I didn't see the names of the authors nay the titles of the articles written down. I could be overthinking it, and I'm fine with that being the case I just wanted to say something about it just to be safe. 1:18:33, 3:52:35 Again, I want to say how much I enjoyed the final product though. I have been educated on things that I will now use in my day to day life because of the information in this video. I live in Mississippi, and as a resident of this state, I can confidently say that our elected officials are not properly educated on the dangers of these big tech cooperations, and I will use the resources given to me to try and make my state somewhat better. No matter how high the pile of shit that I have to climb to get us out of it. I work with an LGBT organization in Mississippi, so I've seen first hand how bad my state can be, but I'm still here and I'm not leaving. Harry + Kat, Thank you for your hard work and dedication, in a world where more and more people give up, you and your team still try and find light in the darkness and have given a little gay boy from Mississippi the courage, knowledge, most important of all... hope to fight today for a better tomorrow.

arcainchaos

Credit: Unnamed friend of Harry Brewis, @hbomberguy.bsky.social

Alexis Pink

Caption "You're not going to make a muppet of him (Subtext: Yes, please make a muppet out of a guy I don't like, that will be very funny)"

Phoenyx

My only note is that I NEED the Bork puppet to be voiced by someone, like either a proper VA (I don't know how much Keith David charges but that would be hilarious) or someone where it would be completely absurd that they agreed. Oh my god, do you think Lina Khan would do it? She went on Adam Friedland's show and that thing is an hour, surely she could spare 5 minutes to record the lines over her phone lol

Kristian Gregory

My gut says somewhere along the way this stopped being "Adobe Must Die" and became "Monopolism, a measured response".

omixann

I'm also loving a slow burn awakening across different fields to the consequences of depending on profit-driven actors to live their lives the way they want/need. FOSS was always theoretically sound and practically proven over and over again, but now it feels like consumers are more receptive to change and the FOSS ecosystem is maturing beyond the lone bedroom coder / crappy UX stereotype.

Jasmine Czerwik

I just hate how much worse this industry has become. It's the one driving the AI bubble and I hate being remotely part of it, I have that it's being pushed on me by management, and I wish there was something else I was as remotely good at to get paid what I do now

Kat

Oh please link to the moon channel video, sounds super interesting!

Stephen

As a thought, when discussing the history of the antitrust acts and the New Deal, it might be worth clarifying how essentially conservative they were. That their intentions were to fix problems with and maintain the capitalist economy and were not anti-capitalist. The New Deal especially (despite what people on the Right like to claim about it being socialist) was about restoring the market economy and mitigating the worst effects of the Depression. Their goal was not just to revive the economy but to ease discontent and prevent people seeking more radical or extreme alternatives to capitalism. It might just be worth making that point to contrast with Bork seeing the New Deal as socialist.

Kat

👀

omixann

I feel like it could be interesting to add "SW development" to the list of fields considered in this video, especially because SW dev has already gone through the open/closed tooling cycle a few times (from early hacker culture with informally open code and tools, to the commercial computing industry making everything a SW package, to the open source revolution where open met corporate, to end up now with SaaS/cloud tooling and now AI). I believe there is something useful to extrapolate from those cycles found in SW dev to prepare for the same cycles in other disciplines.

Retrotainment

My wife was heading to work and made a joke about this not coming out before my 40th. WHO GOT THE LAST LAUGH MARI! 🤣 Serious question: Should we leave feedback here? Is there a Discord? Should I use a series of smoke signals?

DJ

This is phenomenally effective and it is my civic duty to annoy as many people into watching it as I can.

Erin Hales

Agree it feels weird. If it's a joke referencing the people who talk about women as females it's not clear.

Erin Hales

Yes! I love em dashes and I hate how they have become an indicator of AI usage.

Darren Gibson

Was just reading about it on Reddit - IT controlled desktops had a completely new program Stealth installed and default shortcuts overridden

AquariaMoon

I got started on Gimp with digital art and it felt awful to use, but I was an 18 year old who was just getting started with digital drawing software. It's been 14 years, I should give it another shot.

AquariaMoon

I do think the examples strengthen the point of how this is a problem that touches every single aspect of society and not just software. Looking at just how broad an impact the practice has, especially since he's trying to make a systemic point, feels kind of crucial? Even though it IS long

Claraby

All the examples of software that changed to a subscription model can be heavily streamlined. You don't need to read the subscription webpages, do the math for total cost, and react to the prices 5 times in a row. The avid section also drags; you can make the point that the interface sucks briefly without enumerating all the ways it sucks. I got how bad it was after 30 secs of the rant, but didn't find the rest either interesting or cathartic having never used it. Great work though

Taylor Anne

I lost it at the subliminal “And that’s, aha, tricky dick Very cool man The watergate scandal man himself” in threatening diffused papyrus blood red text for a literal half-second.

Molly the Bully

If only we had listened to Richard Stallman instead of calling him a gross communist hippie... Instead we worshiped the false Idols of short-term convenience...

AquariaMoon

There's definitely something there, but it feels like the video was structured to go from small and specific to the broad and systematic and then in reverse. So he gave the solutions for the bigger things first (vote, get involved with legislation, look for organizations fighting this kind of stuff) and ended with the smaller stuff (use open source software). It's just that sadly the smaller stuff is a lot more actionable BECAUSE it's smaller. It kindof leaves you with that restless energy of still not knowing how to tackle the larger things even though he did address it (I felt it too) but that restlnessness really only gets solved by getting involved in local grassroots organizations or even volunteering or SOMETHING like that.

Oliver

As an Avid Media Composer user, I love it. Once learned, the shortcuts makes editing so easier, and it doesn't crash every 5 minutes. But my use is mostly for fiction films, where being able to adjust cuts is very useful. Don't think it's that good for anything else.

Snoucher

Is part 10 made for me???

J.Vaso

I agree which is why I don't think the examples should be dropped completely. its just the same story every time so it drags a bit when we see the breakdown of every event on repeat while we know the outcome is that they became enshittified and adopted a subscription model

Andrey Tolochko

According to my math, Hbomb has been making roughly 0.06 seconds of video a day since the last one.

Catherine Fox

I feel inspired to make a blender tutorial and also build a new creative economy entirely separate from all this corporate nonsense...

ChiralSpiral

“This isn’t like one of my normal videos where I call someone out and they fake their death and become a wedding photographer” Brilliant

AquariaMoon

I definitely think you're on the right track. I was largely engaged throughout and the multiple moments of coming full circle were really satisfying. I already can't wait for the finalized version, slight elaborations on enshittification are probably going to do a lot to help remove some ambiguity. Ending on that positive note feels good, but I agree with some other comments that there's something clunky feeling there. I really appreciate the structure of going from (relatively) small to basically a global level and then talking about things we can do about it in reverse, that works well for me. But somehow by the end it feels like you never addressed the society spanning things even though you did. So I'm glad that you're aware there's pacing issues there! I can see breaking them up in two more focused ones being a boon yes. I personally really appreciated the long list of examples, it gives a lot of weight to the arguments about how widespread these practices are and how much the system pushes towards them, but I don't disagree with the people mentioning in this already Really long video it might be of some benefit to condens that even further. No clue how though, I'm notoriously bad at tightening things up myself :') Wasn't convinced about the shooting location in the previous draft, but found it quite enjoyable in this one. I think that worked out! I'm also going to second people mentioning two moments that kindof took me out of the video. The 'my one female viewer' in relation to cricut (very much feels like a joke that's only funny when you buy into craft related misogyny and doesn't read as a parody of what craftspeople have to deal with) and the use of 'psychotic'. Do with that what you will!

Bramble Fish

I love watching these on Patreon and getting to be elitist when there's a joke about watching on YouTube

Adam Pliszka

Oh, one thing - please do not hide a joke in the subtitles. They're for accessibility, and need to be 100% accurate to serve that function properly - things like jokes break the guidelines

Dr_Amuly

lmao whelp u called it on kier starmer

Abigail Martin

things I learned watching this: 1. someone else actually knows about Reaper. And 2. I know way too much about Hbomb's kinks now.

Cosmic Frog

Good thing I saved some PTO.

Doug

Adobeye?

Snoucher

APPLE! APPLE!!! I'LL DO UNSPEAKABLE THINGS TO YOU!!! I'LL MAKE YOU EAT YOUR SHIT AHAHAHAHYIFA GBFOUAWYIRFGCWQYV TF

Anni_O

long hdmi to usb-c cable connecting the TV to the laptop works p well for me :)

Bird

A video shitting about Adobe is a beautiful beautiful gift to receive as a graphic designer and illustrator

aster

agreed, was not a fan of that one

Kel McDonald

Seconding Kate here. Clip Studio has a bunch of tools for comics specially. Like automatic panel masking, keeping all the pages of a story together, perspective rulers. Hbomb talks about how the perpetual liencse doesn't get updates, but honestly the newer features are always explained in detail. So I've skipped versions and been fine. Plus it seems to be 50% or more every month or so.

Izzy Killeen

Patreon's in-built player is *horrible*. Please don't upload directly to Patreon again 😅

Dex

I appreciate you bringing up The Crew and what Ubisoft did with it. I might've missed it in the video, I was listening while on the job, but if anyone's interested, the Stop Killing Games movement is fighting for legislation on the end of service of video games, explicitly using The Crew as the basis for the fight.

RetroFutureMan

Fuck George Lucas, they should rename the song to "Steve Jobs and Adobe killed my childhood" because every single Flash game is now dead!

yanni libbes

typical leftist cannibalism, can't wait for when this exact criticism is made against someone and leads to their career ending. if you're this soft, stay off the internet. multiple commenters describe this as "important" and it's so obviously miles away from important. there are few things less important than this.

kat + ryn

Hi, I really enjoyed this video. It was really fun learning things about an area I wasn't familiar with and increasingly getting mad. Sure, I think the whole thing could be tightened up, but I also don't think it should. You won't meaningfully cut the run time and you risk losing emphasis. I really appreciate chapter 12 most of all. You aren't just dumping all these issues and saying "shits fucked" but giving concrete steps to engage. I also really liked Kat's puppets. She's so cool!

HannahDT

36adfghjkls;'

Amidamaru44

I 100% at first thought you meant you were actively trying to get pregnant while watching the first 35 minutes. Also congratulations. 🎉

Daelf Derechef

… feeling called out bc i use "apple products" yeah, my main computer has been a mac laptop since i was *forced* to switch (to use adobe software :] ) for my graphic design studies… … and i've never switched back, because windows sucks and i can't do free os because it's even worse! so, yeah, i use macs. only the laptops. that i buy USED. because i, too, hate apple. not gonna lie, i'm low key scared of getting the most recent OS update, and i think i've already 'missed' one… *shudders at all the potential 'ai functionalities' that could be in there and super hard to switch off* … anyway, no-one in the comments seems to have mentionned Vimes' boots theory of economic unfairness, and it's driving me bonkers that it STILL hasn't popped up in the video two thirds of the duration in o_o bc Pterry wrote that angry AF at the unfairness, but big corps saw it and thought 'hey, that's a great idea actually!' it's torment nexus (nexi? nexuses?) all the way down, fucken heck

Bellololol

When I was cancelling my Adobe subscription with a cancellation fee pending, I swapped my payment method over to a dead-end gift card that read as a Visa card and removed my other payment methods. Get fucked, Adobe.

WhitewingsArt

Satanic salmon and agnostic trout, this was great! A tad heavy with what is now fuel for my hatred of Adobe and Apple and American politics screwing the world, but extremely interesting, informative and eye-opening. The joke about what we're doing while watching this on the second monitor nearly took me out (only because it didn't hit dead center, this time), please leave it in to inflict it on all my peers. Hope your wrist is doing better btw, so next time I can get straight-up nuked by another joke. And so, feedback time (wanted to see it two times first, at 1x and 2x) First, the previous preview's stuff: 1. The music added after 1:25 is too loud, fast and attention-grabbing. Silence was good already, but something quieter, softer and less "competitive for attention" may work too. 2. Much of the new stuff is great and adds to the topics at hand, no real notes there, but I preferred most of the jokes that were cut/changed. The new versions subtract from their meaning and overall energy without really improving the pacing. Examples: the original "nay?" in the intro was funnier and straight to the point, the more aggressive energy of the greenscreen reveal was funnier, the bawls bit kinda lacks context as is, [not really a joke but I have proof people need to know it] the explanation of what effects do in different Adobe programs. 3. In some parts, the audio switches so much it feels like it's dubbed by another person (hard to go back and find the exact timestamps due to the player), but I don't know what can be done there. The rest: 4. Pacing definitely needs improvements due to the non-light subject matter and info overload, as that's what makes it kind of too heavy as-is. At some point during the first watchthrough, it was such an endless stream of despair over bad stuff done by companies that I had to take a few breaks, mostly because I inevitably stopped paying attention as my eyes glazed over in realization of what a lovely reality we live in today. Second watch at 2x was better, maybe because I was more mentally prepared for the horror, but I still got to the last couple of parts tired enough that I kept losing focus. Imho, some more tangential/in-depth stuff should probably get summed up in bigger categories to make the point it has to, while the existing work (even as-is) should get extruded into their own second-channel video(s) as a "director's cut". That should improve the pacing without losing all the work and research that went into it, and I really don't wanna just say "cut it all down a bunch", because most of it IS important stuff to know that HAS to be put out there, especially if the plan is for this to be the context for upcoming videos about nicer things. 5. The lack of music is noticeable, but like in point 1, I'd keep it sparse and on the softer side in info-heavy parts, so that they're given a rhythm and "identity" + made more digestible without becoming overwhelming. 6. Imho, this video needs a lot more... I wanna say "levity" or "silliness", but "definitely warrated mental-breakdowns to ground the viewer with amongst the insanity of reality" fits the idea better. This is your most serious video so far, but the contrast between heavy subject matters and energetic parts helped a lot with the vaccines and plagiarism ones. The first part had a much better rhythm in that regard, especially in the first draft with the cut jokes, but while I don't expect it to carry through the entire video, a little more would go a long way to make it less lecture-y. 7. The "how to fix stuff" part may need some early hints and more energy, because it comes after mountains of crap that really dampens the hope of that part. [I hope any of this makes sense]

Holly Smith

If he can cut 15% out of the section around the 1:30:00 mark he should for sure. Or break it up w animations or slideshow or something. It does get a little long.

WhitewingsArt

Also an a 10+ years user of CSP who was on the early train for it and had a long honeymoon phase with it after hating Adobe, I have to point out an extra anti-consumer thing about Clip Studio: they changed it to an (almost) always online service, and the program keeps rechecking the license every few [insert the relevant measurement of time that in my experience is never what they say] on both perpetual license and subscription model. I still love the program itself because it fits my needs perfectly, and the updates have been meaningful enough that I don't feel ripped off about paying for them (even after we got them for free for ages, it's fair to pay to support actual development), but I still don't like the lack of clarity and it sucks that it's getting worse in enough small ways that I can't suggest it wholeheartedly like I once did.

FranticCashew

I am in favor of any video that hypes up Lina Khan. I would marry that woman.

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2026-09-05 04:00 I think you are forgetting a major reason people stick with Apple. Even if they don't agree with Apple's principles or don't like paying their tax, Apple has made communicating with Android users incredibly difficult. Their proprietary messaging service, iMessage, enables unique interactions and higher-quality attachments, such as photos and videos. These features are not available on SMS, but even if they are available on alternative messaging services like WhatsApp, most Apple users are unwilling to change because it would involve telling their friends and family to change how they communicate. The government has sued Apple for this, but, as usual, nothing has happened since. https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets There is a social element to tech that definitely makes people unwilling to look for alternatives or try new things, even when they're aware of problems. I think when you suggest people don't buy Apple products, you should keep this in mind, or add a short addendum to your recommendation. Other than this major gripe, I only have a few nitpicks - Around 2:59:50 there is a weird change in color correction - I don't know why but I think the Microsoft section of the pie chart at 3:08:16 should be yellow because it looks like Pac-Man yum yum - Maybe get rid of some of the parts where you say "this video took too long lol" because it's gonna age badly - Not a nitpick, but who did the animation of the bank screaming and running away? That was so good!! Thanks for reading this! Hope this video gets done before GTA VI!
2026-08-12 18:06 I think you are forgetting a major reason people stick with Apple. Even if they don't agree with Apple's principles or don't like paying their tax, Apple has made communicating with Android users incredibly difficult. Their proprietary messaging service, iMessage, enables unique interactions and higher-quality attachments, such as photos and videos. These features are not available on SMS, but even if they are available on alternative messaging services like WhatsApp, most Apple users are unwilling to change because it would involve telling their friends and family to change how they communicate. The government has sued Apple for this, but, as usual, nothing has happened since. https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets There is a social element to tech that definitely makes people unwilling to look for alternatives or try new things, even when they're aware of problems. I think when you suggest people don't buy Apple products, you should keep this in mind, or add a short addendum to your recommendation. Other than this major gripe, I only have a few nitpicks - Around 2:59:50 there is a weird change in color correction - EDIT: was there supposed to be a sound at 3:40:03 ? - ANOTHER EDIT: maybe update the luxotica brand image collage so that your face is more in the center - Not a nitpick, but who did the animation of the bank screaming and running away? That was so good!! Thanks for reading this! Good luck with the rest of the video!

I think you are forgetting a major reason people stick with Apple. Even if they don't agree with Apple's principles or don't like paying their tax, Apple has made communicating with Android users incredibly difficult. Their proprietary messaging service, iMessage, enables unique interactions and higher-quality attachments, such as photos and videos. These features are not available on SMS, but even if they are available on alternative messaging services like WhatsApp, most Apple users are unwilling to change because it would involve telling their friends and family to change how they communicate. The government has sued Apple for this, but, as usual, nothing has happened since. https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets There is a social element to tech that definitely makes people unwilling to look for alternatives or try new things, even when they're aware of problems. I think when you suggest people don't buy Apple products, you should keep this in mind, or add a short addendum to your recommendation. Other than this major gripe, I only have a few nitpicks - Around 2:59:50 there is a weird change in color correction - EDIT: was there supposed to be a sound at 3:40:03 ? - ANOTHER EDIT: maybe update the luxotica brand image collage so that your face is more in the center - Not a nitpick, but who did the animation of the bank screaming and running away? That was so good!! Thanks for reading this! Good luck with the rest of the video!

bbluekyanite

Would be funny if he did a callback joke to the first mention of horses not existing

Holly Smith

2:03:25 don’t do my boy Josuke like that

sunie

I found there was a lot of (imho too much) gun imagery in this video in general, both in the animations and the RL bits. It was kinda like watching something on ChannelAwesome twenty years ago. Guess filming in an old wild west town gave some inspiration! :D

Comrade Dom

What does it say about me if i knew nothing about the spotify case against apple but everything about the epic games one?

sunie

I really and truly loved this video, and I would love a detour into enshittification and technofeudalism. I'm also really looking forward to the FOSS video. Few tiny things: I did mention it as a reply to someone else but for my tastes, there really was a bit too much gun waving and pointing in both the filmed sections and the animations for my tastes. idk, some days I'm a bit more sensitive to it than others I guess. The part with the puppet was fantastic though, but idk, maybe there's other ways to convey Adobe killing apps and companies? Just my 2 bucks. Also, did you mispronounce Jeff Gerstmann's name on purpose? It's kind of an internet running gag and I know you enjoy Giant Bomb, and probably know better, but I can't help but ask. Also also, I was kinda missing European options for the "how to fix this" part of the video. Unless I was starting to nod off, I feel like I only heard US and UK options there. I really choked up at the end there. As a creative person myself, it was fantastic to hear you were seizing the means of production and teaching yourself the skills instead of letting adobe keep you dumb. It felt very empowering to me. Also, yes, become a Linux user. I've been marching with the penguins for over a year now and it's been a fantastic experience.

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2026-09-05 04:00 I agree with other commenters here, the middle two hours with all the examples could be slimed down maybe make a "and you see this happening everywhere from cars to fucking ". The first hour there are a lot of sketches and cutaways whereas the next bit feels very ranty. I also think the discussion of bork flowing into the chicago school into lena khan should be packged together, more snappy. The call to action about supporting open source and eff would work better packaged together.
2026-08-12 18:41 I agree with other commenters here, the middle two hours with all the examples could be slimed down maybe make a "and you see this happening everywhere from eyeglasses to fucking cars" with cutouts of newspapers or something entering the screen. The first hour there are a lot of sketches and cutaways whereas the next bit feels very ranty. I also think the discussion of bork flowing into the chicago school into lena khan should be packged together and made more snappy. The call to action about supporting open source and eff would work better packaged together.

I agree with other commenters here, the middle two hours with all the examples could be slimed down maybe make a "and you see this happening everywhere from eyeglasses to fucking cars" with cutouts of newspapers or something entering the screen. The first hour there are a lot of sketches and cutaways whereas the next bit feels very ranty. I also think the discussion of bork flowing into the chicago school into lena khan should be packged together and made more snappy. The call to action about supporting open source and eff would work better packaged together.

jouusta

the only section that went on too long for me was the one at the beginning where y'all covered software tutorials; it felt very repetitive by the end of the section. other than that, i thought the rest of the video's writing was pretty tight. I stayed engaged for the whole 4 hours. alsooo this is a much smaller crit; i don't know if yall are still working on the title for this video, but i think the title "Adobe Must Die" doesn't fully encapsulate everything yall touched on. its not to the point i think it's misleading or anything major, but having a title that covers the more general technofeudalism sphere that's talked about throughout the whole video may pull more viewers in. i'd take a video dunking on adobe any day, but i'd hate for people who aren't familiar with adobe's practices to see the title and decide "well shit i'm not dedicating 4 hours of my time to a topic i don't care about." because this topic effects everyone!! it's not just adobe!!! raghhgah!!! anyways this video is awesome so far and I can't wait to see it in its final form yay!!

Sam Jansen

Absolutely love this one! I think it leans into the time it’s taken to get here and the evolving nature of these issues in a spectacular way. Will write a longer post once I’ve absorbed

Lars Simkins

Wild that these essays have gotten so complex that they basically require an early access period to proof / fact / vibe check before release. I'm about halfway through and IMO there's a lot you can cut from this one. It's all interesting but it wouldn't hurt your central point to move some of the bigger tangents into separate videos.

Lauren

I work with adobe in a corporate setting. I fucking hate it. Indesign, illustrator, photoshop, acrobat, premiere pro - every program is hobbled together and barely functioning. I'd kill for a working alternative.

Rhys

2:48:36 - "female" here feels a bit weird to use when there are plenty of people who use cricuts that aren't female! also i'm cackling over the slowly growing pile of energy drinks

Vincent J Ives

I guess with Starmer's resignation, H is one step away from becoming a wedding photographer

JojoHax

I think i would hammer home the darwinian nature of capitalism. How these companies technically "need" to be evil or they'll be outcompeted by companies that are. I liked the road you went down concerning the road the economy is going down, but I don't think we need to frame it as a depressing thing. Of course most people want to just have things go back to "normal", but we need to actually have the discussion concerning revolution. The technological development we have combined with the development of a truly integrated world economy means, that we actually don't face the same pitfalls of isolation and insufficient technological development. We produce enough food for 10 billion people, for example. Walmart and other huge companies have internal planned economies the size of whole countries. If the working class actually seize the means of production now, we truly have a shot at a bright future. I truly believe that there is a case to be made for revolutionary optimism.

psi43

03:55:00 not sure if intentional, but the quotation marks block the words they are supposed to be around.

Potato

2:56:32 I knew what bit was being set up here and I'm so happy I was right

Glenn Case

Me: I don't really want to start watching a TV show. Too much of a time commitment. Also me: Let me revisit this Hbomberguy video for the 10th time...

Kula Bocca

love that newgrounds assassin hampsterdance joke

marvhus

Why not "Creek Babies"? :)

Samuel

Should have called the video "The Road to Serfdom 2: Electric Boogaloo". This is an exceptional piece of work, well worth the time that you spent making it. Seriously, congratulations on such a great job!

monica morton

your most insane video yet mr bomberguy

Daelf Derechef

… anyway, YES, GOOD VIDEO! *contemplates commenting/asking about the automated subtitles bc they are So SO Bad* … nah. i'm sure the definitive ones will be much better, just… good luck making them, and thanks in advance :)

Thomas Lock

I can't believe the quality of this video. This is your best work yet, and also I think genuinely has the potential to have the biggest impact yet. Can't wait for this to come out.

Joan Flyvholm

Great video! Is mispronouncing Godot some kind of joke I'm not getting?

CS

The color correction gets messed up at 2:59:53

Ryan Stasel

Are the occasional Bork->Borg in closed captions intentional?

Johanna Wikström-Thörnros

I'm halfway in and I have to say, the depressing part isn't so much Adobe being terrible, it's the people who allow their companies to get bought out by Adobe. They clearly understood how predatory Adobe's practices are given that they chose to do the opposite to begin with, and yet sooner or later it seems almost all of them cave.

Clockwork Clown

I was so busy watching this video i missed the eclipse 😑😮‍💨*face palm*

Ceren K

I've been waiting for so long!!!!!!! Im so happy!!!!!

Gareth

Would you consider breaking some sections into their own video as kind of a prologue or suplimental material? With the Bork section, there's so much information coming at the viewer that it's easy to get lost in the weeds. I just feel like I needed a break multiple times.

Yann Mirnoir

50:05 appears to be missing a sound effect.

Johard

not me finding out I would have to pay a fee if I cancel my Adobe subscription... Luckyly my annual plan ends only a good month after I probably worked my last month in a creative job for a while, also ending my need to access adobe products

Jana

Still figuring out how to get away from adobe, since I first saw your... first(?) version of this video... and I transitioned from being a man into being a woman in between, that that was easier. I think I'll just outsource all graphics for my game in the future and let this be some else's problem (but it will remain a problem I guess...)

Cosmic Frog

10/10. No notes. Ok, a few notes. I am so glad open source gets a shout out. I have been pivoting most of my software to open source over the last few years and am glad it's catching fire. I'd drop the joke about your "one female" viewer and Cricut. Cricut is actually used in industrial manufacturing (my company uses it) and the focus on female use seems off. Definitely leave the part about the pronunciation, though. People still argue about it. Maybe you should explain what a 'horse' is? I've never heard of such a thing.

beesher

Great work, team! Ugh, my phone died and I am unfortunately too poor to buy a new one, then I was gifted an iPhone. I am obviously very thankful to that friend, because otherwise I don't know what I'd do, but oh I feel gross being in Apple's grasp.

Rosie

I was interested so I looked up the statistics - around 94% of cricut's userbase is women. That, combined with hbomb I guess just generally joking that his subscriber base is mostly male (not sure the statistics on that though), I think is kinda enough to warrant a joke that "his only female subscriber is probably the only one that uses cricut".

RADOBRADO

This might be your best work yet! Definately worth the wait!!!

Rosie

I don't mind the rants but I do think it was repetitive in some places. Also might be my fault for zoning out right at the important part of the introduction where he lays out the premise for the video, but I'm sure the older version did a better segue for starting with advertutorials, with this one I was like "wait why are we starting here".

Rosie

Yesss I would love to see some Neopets clips in there. Especially the Ruffle part.

Adam Greene

We gotta stop going after the em dash like this. Humans use it. I use it constantly for documentation. Stop telling me I'm AI, darn it! I just use proper grammar at work!

Rosie

(Just to provide a contrasting viewpoint to avoid selection bias in the comments section) I disagree, I do not think it would benefit from a section on enshittification, and I think it already makes the point about technofeudalism clearly and concisely enough. I think enshittification is tangential to the main point of this video, though not entirely separate, so adding it in would take us already further from the main point of the essay. I think the examples are all interesting and help make the point of how widespread the subscription model is, and how it's detrimental to the wider economy.

Rosie

You either die a horse-denier or you live long enough to see horses come back into existence.

Ingrid Russmann

"That's a new bad thing I just learned!"

Rosie

Anyone have a timestamp for this joke? I think I missed it!

psi43

Now I feel like I, as a software developer, should create a new Flash. I've been in the Flash community since 2001, I am friendly with a lot of big names in the online Flash community as well as Tom Fulp (creator and still maintainer of NewGrounds). I think it's time for a new program to do exactly what Flash did, which was apparently killed because of a literal hissy fit. I'll do it. It'll be named Fuze and I won't fucking sell that shit to any large company.

Rosie

I feel like he was more passionate in a lot of the takes of the older one, but that may be my bad memory

Rosie

Got any recommendations for reading/watching about effective altruism?

Clockwork Clown

Ngl, i spent most the video wondering how many more of the products ive always wanted to get back into, that i havnt used in the past decade, would be crossed off the list, and im so happy blender is still around. I was waiting the whole video for hb to mention if blender had been consumed by the panoptic-octopus-software-consuming machine. (Like i could have checked myself, but my phone was held hostage by the fact i had it cast to the tv so i could watch the video big style with my partner)

Rosie

I'm pretty protective of kids but honestly I spit out my tea every time I read/remember this joke. I do find it funny (sorry)

Xavier Ilyas

I think going deeper into the idea of technofudalism earlier in the video would be helpful. I’ve read the book so I already had that knowledge in the back of my head, but I think it would be a helpful tool for the viewer so they can wrap their head around a concept that kind of brings all the ideas in the video under a cohesive philosophical umbrella. Like others mentioned, the tangent about all the other companies with shitty subscription services feels like it goes on too long. It definitely needs to be in the video - it’s important to point out that this isn’t a thing exclusive to Adobe or software - but it can probably be cut down. Maybe it’d a be good hburgerguy video - the same way the scraps from the plagiarism video were repurposed. This is small note, and honestly doesn’t need to be a part of the video, but another shitty thing that keeps people trapped within adobe’s ecosystem is their career. Basically every company that needs a video editor requires you to use/have knowledge of adobe’s suite. I’d love to ditch adobe - frankly I can’t afford it lmao - but I need to continue to use it to keep it on my resume.

Rosie

I also JUST saw a cameo of him (at least I think it's him?) somewhere else, but I cannot for the life of me remember where.

Ignigeno

Commenting to say I loved it and also to declare that I'm the 'You' who was watching this on a second screen while drawing furry pornography. And that I shouted "Blender!" several times.

Anni_O

Yeah I also thought this was a strange and uncharacteristic thing for him to say and also misogyny. If it was supposed to be a joke I also did not clock it as one...

Rosie

Farquaad :) (in case you need to google him later! For.... reasons.)

Anni_O

I agree, this was weird :( I hope there's at least a disclaimer added or smth...

Anni_O

I also noticed this and was very confused what he was suddenly on about with these so called 'horses'

Rosie

Agreed on the video player, I spent the first 3 hours watching it with the progress bar showing because it wouldn't disappear for me! Damn you, Patreon!

Rosie

There is definitely a bit where he gets more explicit about one part of technofeudalism, I can't remember exactly, but he compares it to the feudal lords providing the protection for people living on their land. And then I think the rest is mostly clear enough since that's the main point of the video, "you don't own tech you just rent it now".

Rosie

I agree, I liked that part a lot!

Rosie

I watched it in the foreground, and already I'm going through these comments going "the bit where he says what? I don't remember him mentioning that!" Sad though cos I enjoyed every bit of it and it held my attention better than 90% of feature films!

Rosie

I'm here like "there's music in these?!"

George Baron

Thank you for this video. Watching it I found it cathartic, but also mildly stressful as it hits quite close to home and touches on things that I've grown more and more distressed by recently. I'm a software engineer by trade, and this past couple of years has seen my industry absolutely swamped by AI. There has been a significant push towards AI-assisted programming, and everywhere I look more and more companies are adopting it and enforcing its usage when developing their software. There are lots of negative things to say about this, but one that isn't talked about nearly enough is how these companies are attempting to lock the mere act of developing *any* competitive software behind a subscription service. This isn't like AI art where the results are so obviously worse, there are huge efforts towards building sustainable software development practices using these services that are genuinely hard to compete with using traditional approaches. It's turning my industry completely on its head and I'm terrified. This thing I dedicated my life and passion to, torn to shreds by unconscionable, money hungry giants that are backed on a governmental level. FOSS has been a bit of a bastion in this regard, but they're also struggling against the tidal wave of AI. I truly appreciate the love given towards FOSS at the end of the video, but I worry that this climate is going to make them, and therefore its consumers, suffer too. I think this video just really highlighted how tired I am of all this. Tech has seriously lost its way, and I hope videos like this help to promote change.

Rat

Echoing what others have said about the juciero/peloton/car examples not feeling super relevant. Maybe they should be shortened or removed, or put in a more distinct section about how things are getting worse beyond software. I would appreciate an explanation of technofeudalism in the video since it was mentioned more than once. Minor criticism but the video talks a lot about Apple even though the title is about Adobe. Excellent work (I enjoyed the cameo from ICE Erik)

Vanessa Johnson

I think those additional topics sound great to go into, this is such a massively complicated and nuanced topic i perfectly understand needing to make room for other stuff, but the enshittification of everything is in direct tandem with the en-service-ication? of everything. Companies have very little reason to actually provide quality products when everything is so "Cheap"

Anni_O

I know you only briefly mention digital drawing / painting software but I just want to honorarily mention my good friend Paint Tool SAI which was usually sold for like 20/40 bucks for a forever licence and it still exists! Also gimp has always been free which some people liked and then some glorious person programmed Photoshop to be free and online, which is called photopea! The part about mudbox made me so sad - I used it in like 2015 and really liked it as well as ZBrush, but didn't end up following up with a career in 3D Animation after all, so I didn't know all that shit happened to either of them T_T. I really liked the video, my favorite parts were most of the references to your other videos of course but I also really enjoyed the parts where you got more creative and used some of the things mentioned earlier in the tutorials you watched as a teen! Also when you stacked up the monster energy drinks? Delightful. RIP to the drone and I hope Kat feels better now! Also Rachel, you're the most iconic one in this ensemble tbh. Not a fan of the 'one female viewer' joke some others have already pointed out though, I wish you would either rewrite that or at least put some kind of correction on screen. I also agree with someone who pointed out that if you have other text on screen that we are supposed to read it would be cool if you don't put it on the part of the screen that has the subtitles (so the very bottom), because if you do rely on subtitles or just want to use them, you will not be able to read the additional text and have to go back then to deactivate them and then watch that part again which is just cumbersome. I liked that all the side quests joined together for your point in the end! Very satisfying and I will def check out the websites you mentioned. Totally looking forward to the other long video about open source software - maybe you can mention photopea if you haven't already lol. Since I live in the EU, I am indeed a fan of the Brussels Effect and hope there can be many more laws or changes that positively impact the rest of the world from here. Disappointed they didn't pass that preserve-games thing I signed for and that they went through with the chat surveillance thing they were pushing... but I am indeed a fan of the right to repair laws coming up! Let's see where the EU takes some things, we can only hope (and get into activism. and vote). Looking forward to watching this on Youtube again with the final edits!! I know some of my friends who can't afford the patreon are also really looking forward to it. I do really want to see you make that Donut now ;D

Anni_O

I disagree with some saying the car/juciero parts weren't relevant or too long, I really thought it made a lot of sense to escalate the software points into the real world and show that corporations would charge you a rent for everything if they could to exploit that 'infinite money glitch'.

Hakase

The captions are generated by Patreon and are not great at times, my favorite one is at 3:06:00 which reads "[Badly translated]". I suppose the official captions will be out when the video is on YouTube.

Blythy

I'm about 3 hours 20 in (need to come back tomorrow for a 3rd session to finish) - I agree with everything in the video so far, but I agree with your comment. There's quite a bit of "this company is shit also", and I think the bork section drags a little.

Anni_O

Didn't that not get through though? I signed for it but it got repealed by the EU I thought?

Dave Jones

Baldur’s Gate here… yup, I hear you.

Anni_O

I was going to point this out but since it is also apple locked idk if I'd count it as a good alternative... also I got an ipad for drawing and I guess procreate was part of what made it so good yeah... I said it in my own comment but I miss the days of Paint Tool SAI lmao, but I looked and it still exists! amazing. Procreate is also really good though, def beats gimp (tho that IS indeed free and I think open source)

Psyche

Autodesk have ruined my life their apps are so finicky to package for mass deployment and it's just unnecessary. Last year they changed their entire academic licencing system so we had to completely repackaged them and spent months trying to automate the licencing because their automation cost more than the licenses.

Helena Harper

I subscribed back to the Patreon to watch this- I've been pretty critical of how production has been going on other platforms for this video so I suppose it's only fair in this case to give my thoughts on this. This is a incredibly bloated video that really needs a lot of trimming or at least cut into separate videos. I'm three hours in and the pacing is something I would describe as both manic, unfocused, and also somehow feels longer than it's runtime. I thought the landlord section was way longer than it was but it also just doesn't need to exist to set up the idea of a subscription service that you then go into. I'm frankly not sure why you need sections on enshittinfication and technofeudalism- both of those topics are covered EXHAUSTIVELY by this point without even saying those terms. The original previews also flowed just a lot better- there is an absurd amount of jumping around on the set that seems to solely exist because the footage exists and now scenes such as the stuff shot in the jail get used but completely void of their original context which leads to a muddier feeling overall to the writing. Shots like you knocking over the Monster Energy drinks and then replicating the shot from The Town with No Name and then going BACK to the table with the monster energy drinks not knocked over are just really weird editing choices that feel like they're being made to salvage the waste of time the shoot ended up being because the script ended up needing to making so many changes. Every section feels like it needs a significant bit of it cut out. I don't need to know multiple examples for cars gaining subscription services in detail, I don't need to know multiple examples for court cases that were supposed to punish and break up big businesses without actually accomplishing that in vivid detail- like go over a bunch of cases quickly and spend detail on one of the worst cases or at least one with the most interesting details that carry to your next point. The conclusion is easily the weakest part, I was beyond surprised that open software was such a insignificant part of the video and that you were inexplicably still using Premiere even to this moment? I sort of thought the last half was going to be pulling off from Adobe entirely and showing how you did it, but no, you very much stayed in their ecosystem apparently? And it just feels very optimistic for the sake of being optimistic- like yeah, there's some minute movement against tech overlords but you just kind of shrug and go "I don't know, it'll get better eventually I think". Like what? Also like, I don't know why you harp so much on vectors being superior to pixels? Like they have kind of a niche use case, there's kind of a reason why we use pixels primarily. As an artist, this has been the most confusing part of every single draft I've looked at for this project. If you try to draw with vectors, the format is extremely obtuse to work with and does not format correctly across different programs. It's nice to see some effort has been finally extended to the Brainmind Residency given that this was easily the most confusing part of the video- the backstory still makes no sense and I'm not sure why both of you want to make it out like Kat tricked you into starting a residency program with your own money neither of you talked about for years- like weird vibes there- but I'm glad to see there's at least plans to highlight some of the stuff that came out of that given how obtuse the answers have been every time I ask about it. I think there are a ton of issues with this one still. I get this is a draft but the flow and pacing is super bizarre and pretty much every section feels like it's three times longer than it reasonably should. I also don't think filming on set really added much to this video and the final product kind of shows given how much was added in post because you decided to tackle a bunch of subjects that were subject to updates while production was ongoing for some bizarre reason and it just feels really disjointed as a result.

Ash

The whole Bork section is absolute perfection

Francis Siberini

Just to offer the other side of the coin as I’ve seen people say cut the video down and use less examples of tech companies doing subscriptions etc. I really enjoyed it. Shows just how much our society in every facet is moving towards this. Kept thinking it can’t get any worse and it does. Is morbid but entertaining. Btw the shootout scene was spectacular. Really fun and a great palette cleanser to give us a pause from lots of info

Alex

As a STEM student - this is why I don't use Mathematica. I use python, C++ and ROOT. And I'll die on this hill. Anyway, I think that the topic of technofeudalism needs to be discussed more on the internet nowadays, so this video makes me really happy, it's an amazing case study on just how out of hand everything is getting, especially the car related case studies. This point needs to be driven home, people need to become more aware of just how much we're being trapped by our technocratic overlords...

Hedrigal

I do want to pitch nationalization as a response to big tech overreach. Like splitting up these companies maintains the basic conditions for the problem to re emerge, whereas you could actually have government run software development sector that could genuinely be run for human needs. A lot of the left underestimates the potential for nationalization as an option.

priya huq

Didn't realize we were in the presence of the Importance Arbiter

TarynItUp

Ngl “this video is two hours too long” when there’s almost an hour left gave me an actual out loud guffaw.

Nathan Saritzky

I called the green screen double fake-out. I do know all your tricks! We are friends! Apple didn't actually make the iPhone with the App Store in mind. Steve Jobs had to be dragged into it. He originally didn't want to allow 3rd-party developers to make iPhone apps at all. But their "just make web apps" position went over poorly with developers, and they reversed a year later.

George

Love the video. I would say that the call outs/actions at the end feel a little lengthy and could do with some tweaking, but you're alreay on it. I can't express my joy when I thought "huh these subscription discussions remind me of when my HP printer stopped working a couple of years ago" just before 2:30:00. I made an audible lil cheer to myself.

Máté Madarász

Would love to see the parts added on enshitification and technofundamentalism. Would help further explain why monopolys are cancer for people who are bittery blind to that point.

ZW

I agree on enshittification and technofeudalism being their own rabbit holes that could warrant a second channel video. Not as familiar with technofeudalism, but a lot of this is in conversation with doctorow’s work so I feel like there should be some throwaway mention in the main video, but it doesn’t need a whole section

ZW

Speaking of foss, does anyone use FOSS for video editing and have recommendations? I’m currently trying to learn the ropes on davinci resolve but like hbomb said, its not like resolve can’t change out from under us by either getting bought out or becoming paid only or whatever else.

Freddy Veloz

But the Bork section is so good ><

Christopher Apostolof

I saw the Reddit post and immediately was in “I must join on patreon” mode 🤣

jappel

Gonna be honest, I only subscribed to see this video earlier and I wanted to end my subscription afterwards. But the moment you mentioned my boy, my beloved DAW , my Reaper - I decided to stay subscribed

Z

The effect on the 3D guy around 2:12:00 is really difficult to look at as someone with photosensitivity. I recommend using lower contrast and greatly slowing the effect down, or using a different effect entirely. Otherwise, great video! Very fun and informative! Poggers for calling out Godot and other FOSS programs. If you're genuinely looking to get into Linux, Linus Tech Tips recently called out SteamOS as a great distro for moving away from Windows (I plan on trying it out myself soon now that I've cancelled my own Adobe subscription lol)

Starboi

Is there a reason the video isn't a YouTube link?

Simon

Technofuedalism is a social theory by Yannis Varafakis (spelling from memory sorry) that as tech companies take control of aspects of the internet the general population will end up paying “rent” to the tech companies for that usage. The rent could be personal data, attention, on site purchases where a commission is paid… yeah

Simon

There’s a few, mostly it gets mentioned in passing. The best example would be sam bankman-fried started FTX as a way to fund his EA activities. EA is another “everyone wants to reinvent Plato’s Republic from first principles” thing. By that I mean that these people have decided on the most efficient design of a country and its administration and obviously it’s the correct one and every serious and intelligent person would agree with them (unspoken is that they are the one in charge). There’s also a MSM article about SV EA parents having lot kids to increase the general intelligence.

Overhaul

31:32 please remove this. I find it HIGHLY offensive as someone who owns a yellow shirt

Adam Gunn

Hbomb himself said at one point that everyone creating a thing should be forced to cut about 10% just to pare down the worst bits and I think that's true for this one tbh

Geo

Love this video!! In the spirit of giving feedback I want to echo a few previous comments I've seen that the middle section with multiple stories/examples of different tech companies could be trimmed. I'm not sure each new example is adding enough to justify so much time being dedicated to each. I'm not necessarily saying to cut most of them, but maybe cutting a few and/or simplifying most of them would help keep it from feeling repetitive. The overall structure is great I just think the level of detail is dragging down the pacing. Super funny and informative as usual though!

jasonuity

Oh no you forgot Kat!

Will Goulden

1:49 - joke about kier starmer resigning before the video is done- yeppers

Jin

How'd.....how'd you get a hold of a horse? Those fuckers aren't real.....right?

Spanky

why didn't you label Davy Jones with "Octopus" when you were talking about him? what if one of your viewers has never seen an octopus?

Helena Harper

normally im fine with excess if it serves a purpose but it didn't really... do that. Not to mention hbomb has cut things out for being excessive before, such as the illuminaughti section. if it was meant to escalate, that energy needs to carry into line delivery and pace. like you should feel overwhelmed and like not being given a rather detailed story about specific examples. this really dragged out the pace of the video and didn't feel like anything other than filler in a lot of cases, especially when we linger on multiple subject matters like multiple examples for cars

nightfall

I can feel where you've missed technofeudalism hard in places, you've gotten tantalizingly close to it in places and it feels like it ought to have been included. It almost feels like it should have gone somewhere in the middle of the video. As for enshittification, you've outlined all the ways it happens without need ot a definition, so I'm not sure how that would be expanded.

Gray Bangs

not the town with no name reference

Mythic

Honestly I think the worst thing about Clip Studio Paint, is that they were still doing arguably scummy things with their business model even before they went full subscription service on people. I still remember a while back, I really wanted to try dipping my feet back into animating again, and I tried to animate using CSP 1, which I had a standard perpetual license for, only to find out that they had put an artificial frame limit on what you could animate with the standard license, and you had to own their "pro" license to "unlock" infinite frames for animation. And while I don't remember the actual number, this wasn't like 500 frames, or even like 100 frames, this was like 15 frames; in other words, a number so low, you wonder why they even bothered giving you the feature in the first place. I don't know how they decided that was a better idea than simply removing the feature outright for "standard" users, and it doesn't feel right to speculate. What I do know is, this is one of the dumbest and most egregious software locks I've ever seen; being on the same level of ridiculous as having to pay a subscription to use the heated seats already installed in your car.

Ignis Astrorum

Sorry but you are now legally required to have at least one muppet in every future video.

mrlerien

hello! some corrections / additions i can point out at 02:41:50 from The Crew being my childhood game: -Saying The Crew is just a singleplayer game with multiplayer elements is a bit misleading. While there was a single-player campaign, alot of the marketing and core of the game was centered around the multiplayer features such as pursuits with friends, online races and different factions with it's own missions players can compete in. you could describe it more as an MMO with cars -An offline option was found hidden in the game. While the game code never got implemented, it shows that Ubisoft could've made an offline version but decided to scrap on that idea. -The Crew 2 has introduced an offline mode, with the third title Motorfest being annonced but not available yet, after the immense backlash Ubisoft got shutting down the first title and also them being accidentally the backbone of the Stop Killing Games movement that is still going on today.

frankie

since when was anyone anywhere near suggesting the ending of homb's career????

Will Goulden

Leaving a comment here to remind myself to bestow the virtues of RISC V if they aren't mentioned by the end of the video

Neil Hare

You could mention stop killing games around your talk about the Crew

zeebot

we don't write like LLMs, LLMs write like us

Anthony Skatz

I popped so much for that reference

Anthony Skatz

Auction the Bork puppet and donate the proceeds to one of these causes.

Sierra Clibourne

I tend to agree with people saying there are one or two too many examples of specifically creative software being bungled before you move on to other industries doing the same thing. I don't think you should cut them out, but maybe establish a pattern in your first example or two and then show how the other examples follow that pattern. Maybe something cool like a visual timeline of how this process works with relevant landmarks they all pass, and then more quickly describe your later examples by putting them on the same timeline so that it's faster to see the compare. THEN after that you could jump quicker into what sets this example apart. In general I think that middle section either needs more of a rising action or a sense of progression that shows that what we learned in the first few examples is now being applied in our later ones. Also, I don't know if this is just me, but I wish you made less self-deprecating jokes about your own creative process as throwaway jokes in the video. We already like you. We know what we signed up for. You don't have to self flagellate so hard, I promise.

enby ennui

“Substance Live will evolve and become Substance” might be the most meaningless sentence of all time

maya

I think around 1:29:40 there's something missing. I remember a previous version mentioned that adobe threw away 1 billion after minor legal pushback for the purchase of figma. If that's gone intentionally then ignore me, but it almost gave me the impression that adobe succeeded in buying figma, which I don't think is the case. Anyways I, your mother, am very proud of you.

On the Offtrack

As one of the unfortunate bastards to read Patrick Rothfuss's Name of the Wind 15 years ago only to find out he's just, idk, never gonna finish it I feel your pain

thekingtheory

I do have to say this version is a bit bloated. Without the title, one could easily assume it's about subscription models, all monopolies, or even Apple. I'm sure you'll figure out what to cut or tidy up from all the feedback, which I'm glad you're getting a lot of. Still an enjoyable and informative watch, though! Also, as someone who JUST bought a Toyota Corolla, can anyone explain to me what the dig in the video at them is about? I'm not really a car guy.

Daniel Harper

As a Linux user since 1996, I welcome you with open arms into this horribly toxic community of people mostly trying to do the right thing.

EricB

Surpassed all hopes, learned lots I never knew, will watch many times. Honestly found the message comprehesible and engaging. Worth the wait, very well done to all.

eruhachi

I'm so unbelievably hyped yay

Kat Padmore

I'm not sure if the AVID section is entirely accurate. I'm obviously only speaking from personal experience but working in British TV, AVID is still the industry standard and you need AVID-specific experience to get most editing jobs. So it's not as defunct and old as the section implies. I've yet to speak to a professional TV editor that doesn't use AVID, and I spoken to hundreds (thanks networking)

Kiki

Seconding this! The silly title cards are always my favorite, and I agree it would break up the section well

Ben Fran

Can ypu put on YouTube private? I want to watch on big screen

Allen Christian

As a computer engineering student, Linux Guy(TM), former card-carrying member of the Free Software Foundation, and current member of the EFF, even I looked at this and went "goddamn, four and a half hours on how much software sucks? Is anyone going to watch all of this?" But this was beautiful. Thank you so much for making this.

Ben Artes

An interesting example of this is the company JetBrains that makes programming software (IDEs for many popular languages). In 2015 they announced their switch from perpetual licenses to subscription based pricing and users were INCREDIBLY vocal. I think part of it was software developers working at companies go through that shift knowing what the game was. Due to the feedback, within 2 weeks JetBrains made significant modifications to their new subscription policy: after 12 months of subscription you get a perpetual license to that version of the software and that applies to both monthly and annual plans. They've increased prices and removed some discounts, but kept that policy in place since. Not perfect but maybe an example of a company doing reasonably well by their customers.

Chris

To be honest I'm not entirely sure about Lina Khan being the right person to chair the FTC. They spent a huge amount of their limited resources fighting the MS/ABK merger, a case I followed very closely. They absolutely bungled it showing up to court sounding uninformed about everything. "CHRISTMAS SKINS" should send a shiver down the spines of anyone who wants competent anti-trust laws. They had to be reminded by the judge that they were there to protect the consumer and not Sony because so much of their argument was based around harm to Sony and ignoring all the other publishers/platform holders.

Will Goulden

Bazzite? I see Harry as a Cachy kind of guy

Midge

At about half-way through the video, I've decided that this just might be the most depressing thing I've ever watched.

Alex T.

whether you're a "closeted homosexual with a well-kept beard" or "[homosexual] seems a bit of a stretch for [you]," I'm still more than willing to watch a 4 and a half hour long video about tech monopolies because I'm gay and I like watching hot guys passionately say smart stuff about things they've researched heavily. So like, the opposite of James Somerton on all four fronts (hot guy, passionate, smart stuff, heavily researched). Hey, if you can't shoot your shot in the 1,054th comment on a patreon video after a glass or three of sauvignon blanc, then where and when else?

Sydin

The Town With No Name reference is such a deep psychological cut. Bravo.

FentLover985

holy fucking shit I'm so excited

Joe Hickey

I understand how your feeling. I have a horrible trigger response to animal testing/ abuse. I didn't realize it until it caught me off guard a few times. The description of "baby shredder" may be along the same lines. Do you think making the phrasing more polished would help. Like of it were called a "munchkin muncher" or something to make it feel less graphic?

Arne Sahlberg

It’s out! And it’s only 4,5 h long. I can fit it all into a single workday and still have time to get a real thing done! This is a good day!

FentLover985

please stop calling me a worm

Erling Rostvåg

Sad to learn this will be Hbombs last video ever, now that Andy Burnham has replaced Keir Starmer.

Flightscream

I also agree that the "female viewer" comment around the textiles bit is a little odd. Also you use "well-meaning australians" twice in two minutes. Fantastic video, though. I'm excited for the full eighteen hour cut.

Flightscream

Also PLEASE add sections on technofeudalism and enshittifaction sections. I love essay more essay! More essay! More essay!!

Cal

I definitely think there's room to expand on enshittification and technofuedalism.

Noah

Thanks for making this! I think going into more detail about technofeudalism would be a great idea. I imagine a lot of people don't know about that concept in much detail, and I think it's very important to discuss, because the political and economic decisions being made today are pushing us towards that direction. Same goes for enshittification - [not an em dash!] you did touch on it with the "go evil button", because that's effectively what Doctrow was getting at when he coined the word. But I think explaining the concept many people have heard about over the last few years along with some background of how we got here would help. Before "enshittification" was a word we all heard, I think we all understood what was happening but didn't quite have a singular concept to describe it so well. I think one other thing is worth mentioning: In the section where you described how consumers not being able to buy the products made by the big corporations would start to put a strain on the economy (but for the last-ditch effort of attempting to rent everything out), it's worth bringing up that eventually in a system where the wealth has concentrated so much at the top, the economy doesn't even have to bother catering to the bottom 99%. If the top 1% are responsible for the vast majority of consumer spending, you can have an incredibly high GDP as a country just from people buying an endless supply of yachts from each other. Who cares about the worms at the bottom. In this kind of world, the economy will optimize making yachts and, probably, bunkers or something, over stuff the moneyless peasants need. Anyway, like I was saying, thanks for making this. Your content is always exceptional and this is no different.

SmuttySquid

1:19:30 alright funnyman have another $10 from my furry porn empire for that one

Kat

Are you saying I should sell my child?!?

Steve Bunting

Seeing Erik pop up was the best jump scare

Emily Jayne Peters

I thought it sounded better than the first draft though!

Gabriel Branson

did you have to make the puppet bartender that hot?

Arabella T

0:05 well not horses, because they dont exist

Lake Jamieson

I spent so long looking at Hbomb’s head, it started to look like his face had been superimposed onto other footage of his head floating around… I also may be very very tired Incredible work, this was an amazing video and has opened my eyes to so much I wasn’t aware of about the tech industry

Indyyyyyyyyy

I could see why you think you would need to justify modifying the “how do we fix this” section but after how depressing around the half way point got, that entire last 1/3-1/4 of the video began to feel great idk. Maybe I am just too stoned and hopeful for my future but I am also just a firm believer that whatever modifications you decide to make for the Final Cut will only have bigger impact if not the same even after my subsequent rewatches of this video. To be clear this is a first full watch not done all at once but at twice over two days. Though I never thought the expectation is to watch it all at once

Kristian Gregory

I'm rewatching, and I feel like I got the "subscriptions everywhere is problematic" about 45 minutes of examples ago. I don't know how BMW fits into Adobe must die, and while the software packages for animating and video editing all being destroyed theough mergers was on topic I got the idea well before those examples were finished. I've been backgrounding this section while doing other things and I really feel like I haven't missed much content. If the goal is to produce an overwhelming case for subscriptions being rolled out well past where they actually have some economic utility, then I get it. I just feel like the breadth of this section is in need of extra justifying or possibly trimming.

Mantz Max

Really loved the retrospectives which shows the development of these issues over the time it took to make this. I think the "how we fix this" part deserves its own 4.5h video. And when it's done in a few years you can look back at the smoking pile of ash that used to be our world and tell us exactly why we are all dead now. I would really enjoy that. Great work, love you guys!

No Justice

please put a "wah wah" zoom in cutaway of andy burnham after mentioning keir starmer might resign during the video

Kat

We went back and forth about removing it a couple of times, but all of our femme hardcore crafter friends and colleagues (including me) LOST IT at that joke! I think it probably resonates with some of us in a meta joke sense, but it sounds like it won't land with a lot of people when encountering it in the wild (vs with friends with social context). We'll remove it.

Kat

lol this is my bad, we tested it with other femme crafters and it was originally a hit! Removing it!

Kat

Woah happy birthday everybody

Pat

I was expecting some enshitification during the chapter on cars and printers requiring a subscription to work. But I'm an idiot...a worm.

Bruno Duarte

I think we spend a bit too much time talking about how great the video on the saloon was instead of focusing on the Adobe issue. I think that's where you could probably trim some parts. I understand it introduces the setting for the whole video, which was fun, and it's a love letter to the original creators, but it spends a bit too much of time in there. I also think (personal taste, the joke still works as is) when you reveal the green screen joke, it would work better if you cut it at "you don't know me". There's a bunch of times where you mention either "I'll kill you" or "kill me", and again, it works, it's just that for me is a bit too repetitive. I would at least remove the first time as I think the timing works better if it cuts on "you don't know me". On the other hand of trimming, might be worth it to add some comments on the whole PlayStation moving forward without disc situation as that is the biggest bomb in gaming as of now. I know you can't keep adding things forever, but it was a giant announcement of enshitification and monopolization in gaming. Regardless, the video is good.

Leo Burkett

That part about HP Instant Ink is so real. We have HP printers to sell at work and after MANY many reports of peoples printers bricking after cancelling, I started steering people away from HP. Scummy business in general. If you're looking to get a printer, Just bite the bullet and get a mono toner one. Brother has some good options.

FentLover985

I just wanted to mention, to anyone that is interested in learning about technofeudilism! There is a book by Yanis Varoufakis (Technofeudilism). He fully breaks down what it is and why he believes we are moving away from capitalism into this system. (I personally don't 100% agree but it is a seriously good book) From what I can gather, he pretty much popularised the term from this book, so it's really cool seeing it used in an Hbomb video :) Yanis also does talks in the UK. My partner recently listened to one Marxism 2026... My girlfriend is hot and socialist, this part is a brag

Steven

I keep hearing "AshenScript" because I've been playing too much Dark Souls. More seriously, very good video, but there are a couple bits where you go from on set to in the studio and the audio gets louder. It's quite jarring and I'd probably try to match them a bit more, but obviously different audio environments makes this things tricky.

Dan Rowe

3:03:24 ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN IN THIS WORLD WE REALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE my life is nothing I thought it should be and everything I was worried it would become because for 50 seconds I thought there was monsters on the world

Anthony Skatz

Eventually the children need to leave the nest to grow.

ZBD

So that's basically a 4.5 hours long proloque to the video about open source ? Can' wait to see how long the final one is lmao

Retrotainment

I can die happy. Psych was finally referenced in an HBomb video.

Arol Kadamczewski

At some point the viewer gets phisically exhausted with all the examples of physical things as a service, but i'd say that only makes the point of this essay hit harder. Don't know if it will be good for the viewer retention but i'd say let yourself be a little sadistic to your viewers as a treat. At 1:13:12 there is a newspaper cover and i think it would be really nice if it said New Bork Times.

AdamOnHook

"yanni libbes" seems like great fun at parties. I say sarcastically.

AdamOnHook

😂😂😂😂😂

Almoha Atong

thank you. joined patreon just for this. and thank you for juicero you made me feel nostalgic

Kristy Marcinova

I think he might use it in the follow-up video he mentioned doing about open source.

Hippohovel

Kat actually making a muppet out of bork is hilarious to me. She is so cool, i love her.

RustNuttie

Finally finished it!! Lots of good laughs, particularly when the banker walked into the vault and exploded. Lots of explosions in that video, I'm not really sure why that particular one got me... I really appreciated the blender mention at the end, because YES I had been screaming about it the whole video XD I've used it for videogame modding and at least 2 studio animations now, I'm not an expert by any means, but I always end up as the lead 2D artist on those projects because every other artist is too unwilling to learn it, they kinda just shut down until I handhold them through it. It's really difficult, and I understand, but along with your last speech already being hopeful, I'm also hopeful it'll encourage more artists to step into actually learning it too. Speaking of I've always been too scared to figure out how rendering out of that thing works! At home I just settled for the game modding engines and recording those. But I'm gonna go learn how to render a 2D/3D animation just outta there now, might be shit but I'll try!

Annie

I’d love if the video included a definition of technofeudalism. It’s one of those terms I sort of get, but having its key features laid out would be really helpful

Terra Riley

Potential feedback: At about 1:59:00 y'all might wanna swap Ripley to a male character for that joke. It felt a bit close to how gamers lost their shit about "unattractive" lady characters and/or about the general constant criticism of attractiveness of human women. I know y'all didn't mean it like that and wanna make sure that it's extra clear that it's not meant like that. Thanks!

Dalton Curtin

well this was sad, great video btw

themermaid

02:01:23 You brought up Studio One... and not FL Studio? Harris B. Guy you absolute mad man.

Arabella T

so I do think that things about enshittification and technofeudalism are missing, I was definitely listening at points and thinking "oh this reminds me of enshittification", but definitely dont cut any of the puppet sections they are deeply necessary. also I think the tone of the conclusion is slightly off, it does come off a little like "I cant do anything really to help cant wait for someone else to figure it out", which i assume is supposed to just be a bit self deprecating but does come off slightly like fobbing the problem off onto someone else. I do understand that youre really saying that we all can help even in little ways like helping the EFF etc but Id say that the wording might need to be a little different

I.S. Everett

"who's going to make a competing software? you? listening to this on your second monitor while you draw furry pornography?" drawing sphinx tit expansion IS my contribution to a properly functioning society, actually

Geekazodium

this is an uncharacteristically short video from your channel-

Meena

A minor point: at 36:57 the line "adobe loves hiring people of colour, especially if they can pay them less than white people" is funny but slightly undercut by the following point about cheaper labour in Ukraine (and also erases the large population of POC tech people in the US). I wonder if there's a way to rewrite that line to make the same point while still accounting for it not just being a racial thing but also being a global north vs south thing. Something like "adobe loves hiring people of colour, but only if they can pay those people less than people [domestically/locally/in the global north]"

Jonah C.

On the topic of Adobe tutorials -- another insidious thing is they often do have extremely helpful tutorials and series, BUT they are now behind paid courses sanctioned by Adobe themselves. You can already buy genuine courses on Udemy or whatever for $10ish a lot of the time. Adobe's courses go for around $3k!!!!!!!!

Alexia

Can't wait for this video to be out on youtube so I can read comments from people who actually go outside

Ciarán Saunders

18:36 He actually works in marketing for a car rental company after saying he couldn't get a real job due to insurance from employers so youtube was his only option. Also lost alot of weight and got healthy via GLP-1 so good for him. Look I'm sorry but after contacting Nick on bluesky and ending up being called your producer (I'm not as cool as Kat, ok reactionary YouTube/Twitter) I just want the record to be correct at least here on Patreon.

yaoibunga

importantly slamming my finger on this video over and over hoping the chromecast symbol will appear

bigqueenlimousine

I mean this lovingly, I am skeptical of the restraint required to add "small parts" about technofeudalism and enshittification to the video without sending anyone down yet another rabbit hole. Rather than adding their own segments, if that was the intention, I'd just mention them by name in relevant sections. In my opinion, you've already made strong cases against both of them simply by making the video that you've made, so I personally think name-dropping them with maybe a sentence or two of elaboration is all that's really needed.

Luke V

I've never been so depressed watching an H.Bomb video. "so there's this other really cool tool..." ...oh no, someone killed it, didn't they?

Monsy

this was phenomenal! one thing i would add is a segment quickly explaining why Blender and Godot and open source projects can't be bought by giant corporations, because it's an argument i see surprisingly often. "but what if autodesk buys blender?!" it literally can't, because of the way blender's code is licensed; anyone with a copy of the source code can do anything they want with it, and the only way to prevent it would be by getting every single contributor to agree to change the license, which is physically impossible since a lot of them are unreachable, have passed away, and the sheer number of them. it's foolproof!

loki

To me, one (almost two) things here missing: First, why do companys always get bought/ how do they get bought? like, is it always a consensual process? why is there such a pressure to sell yourself? like also for the nerdyer smaller ones? Second thing: open source. i mean you explained it in the end, that you want to make another video about open source, but i was just so irritated why it didnt come up the whole video... uhh i forgot time and ill just send this opinion now instead of forgetting about it even though its actually not finished. err have a nice day bye <3

Olaf

I understand why your wrist hurt now. Fantastic video. Thanks so much.

Bea S

Fantastic!

Ipdar teldar

Linux is great now. Join us.

Daddy Driffill

It froze for me at the phrase ‘to Reagan’s credit’ Hbomb is so opposed to giving Reagan credit he reached through my device and disabled the internet

Binlidbeyblade

This guy could actually make an 8 hour video about paint drying and shamefully I would be fully engaged from start to finish

Zixzari

It's a pity that worker cooperatives or other forms of worker democracy (except unions) aren't mentioned in the video as a possible partial solution.

NeurodiversiTidy

idk i think being able to have a conversation about the structural ableism behind words and work towards not using those words or perpetuating that ableism is pretty important for building a community of respect and support. what's the point of your leftism if it isn't to listen to marginalised people? that's a genuine question, why are you doing this if you don't think it's important to reduce our interpersonal harm, especially when it reflects larger societal harms?

NeurodiversiTidy

i also agree! also sending love to my fellow people who deal w psychosis <3

Clockwork Clown

I used to watch alot of tutorials for fun, but have switched to watching either people live streaming thier art or longform "draw with me" style videos, because even if i dont own the products that they use, if i can watch how they do something, usualy, i can extrapolate how i would do it with a different program/medium. Alot of paid advertutorials are very "draw the rest of the owl" and dont show the process..and i think its on purpose, because itll make you think you need the programe and not the skill.

caleb howell

I was worried y'all might have to update some segments like filmriot's video about the unspecified Adobe advertisement at around 17:00 since it has been long enough since the previews for this video that someone might have caught wind and corrected the comment details to get ahead of this but apparently not. That yt vid still looks exactly the same. Less rewrite work though at least!

Rah

Slightly weird editing at 3:44:19 where the border disappears before the video so you can just see your midriff and a bit of hands moving

Giorgio Bruni

Congratulations. The video I’ve been waiting years to watch just made me incredibly depressed and induced an existential crisis … worth the wait!

Geekazodium

YOU PRONOUNCED GODOT WRONG.

Nikodeamus

42:30 HA! jokes on you, im watching this early on patreon on what seems to be an embedded player. whos stupid now! (im not actually sure this player actually allows for time stamp links...hope i dont look foolish, great video though. loved the long play of alone in the dark as well)

Vladimir Sechkarev

Thank you very much for the video, it's great! > We also wanna add some small parts going deeper on specific topics, like 'enshittification' and 'technofeudalism', so let us know if you feel the absence of those ideas. Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to propose before I read the description properly :) The video would greatly benefit from that IMO, especially if you mention the term originators and their literature. (I am a book nerd who barely touches grass.)

Yaaaasssss

Davinci resolve was snubbed

Andrew

Dang, you beat the Return of the King Extended Cut run time of 4 hours and 11 minutes. Impressive.

marvhus

And now companies are trying to steal open source through re-creating it using LLMs, pretending they have now created a new and separate version they can license differently... even though the training data for said LLM likely contained the source code for it.

jonozilla

Every bullet shot should have the same effect you made in 2008

eruhachi

I was indeed screaming at my screen for hours about Blender, I started cheering when you finally brought it up. Open source is so important and It makes me emotional. I love humans, thank you internet!!! <3

Ryan

Now that I’ve given this a few watches, I think I’d like to echo a couple points I’ve seen folks making. 1. Adobe is a good lens through which to view & discuss monopolies, but I’d probably expect that the title of the video & the opening sections be slightly less focused on Adobe given that so much of the video becomes monopoly focused for its runtime & only occasionally wraps back to Adobe. 2. To that point, I think the sections on examples could be trimmed. For example, I don’t know if you need the whole Peloton bit AND everything about the auto industry. There are substantive differences but Peloton could easily be a 20 minute second channel vid with supporting info, similar to the Illumignaughti stuff from the Plagiarism vid. 3. Doubt there’s a real need for sections on enshittification & technofeudalism but a couple times you describe them without using the words, so maybe just throwing a definition up on screen real quick would be fine. 4. The last half hour feels a bit unfocused, but I can’t put my finger on quite why. It may just be that we spend so much time away from Adobe that when we come back to open source as a hopeful answer, it feels somewhat inconsistent with the other examples.

Belachanful

At 3:16:20 you had just finished explaining that apple would fuck 2/3 of the patreon payment models since apple can only handle payments at the time the user signed up. So the two payment models ruined for patreon would be the per creation model and the per month at the beginning of the month model. In the graphic showing the different payment models you blast away the per creation model and the per month model. I think you meant to blast away the per creation model and the per month at the beginning of the month model. Sorry, english is hard, I hope that makes sense! Amazing video, thanks to everyone for all the hard work!

UAKClef

4:26:07 | I know the donut is iconic as far as 3d modelling tutorials go, but maybe consider not doing that. Along with making some rather bigoted jokes, Blender Guru is a fan of Jordan Peterson and a supporter of AI. Whilst not as well known outside of Blender/3D art related spaces I'd recommend using one of Grant Abbitt's tutorials instead.

Ervin Pepper

Feedback! So I watched the video in three chunks, up to 1:30 on Tuesday evening, then through 2:40 on Wednesday afternoon, then 2:40 to the end Wednesday night after a break. My biggest contribution to feedback I want to make is to say that not only is the last 45 minutes well-paced, I think it's my favourite part of the video, and at least to me the most captivating part. The enthusiasm at being able to talk about open-source alternatives and the importance of local politics carried it,. Even though it was long sections of static background with just Hbomb talking, it didn't drag or feel preachy because the emotion behind it was so much of a relief. On the flip side, the reason I took a break at around 2:40 was because I felt like the middle section was dense but at the same time repetitive. I don't know if there need to be as many case studies of monopolies' negative consequences as there were in this section. It's a tricky balance to not undersell just how widespread the issue is across multiple industries, whilst also not letting things slip into doomerism. When I took my break I was realizing that the companies and issues being mentioned had started to blur into one a little bit. I think cutting some of this section down would help the flow of the video as a whole whilst still conveying the enormity of the problem, but I also understand that the juxtaposition of this section with the positivity of the closing section is necessary to make the final message hit as hard as possible, so possibly you'd lose that if you did remove some of the case studies? Tricky balance. Enjoyed almost all the jokes, learned a lot, and got to cheer when Blender finally got a mention near the end. It's a fantastic video that I will happily rewatch segments of, even if I might not put myself through the whole of the middle section another go around. Puppets were great. Glad to see Apple's exclusivity and proprietary approach to products dissected and eviscerated, it's frankly astonishing that the way they built their own marketplace is just accepted. I spent a lot of the time feeling like "Adobe Must Die" was maybe an odd choice for a video title, but thinking about the word "Die" meaning to "get broken up" rather than actually die kind've brings the whole thing together.

Wescott Reed

Yeah, seemed really suddenly mysoginistic to me, just made me kinda sad. Didn't get the joke

Spageeterrrr

Followed later by the illuminaughti joke that was wonderful

archon_andromeda

for what it's worth i also lost it at that joke. totally understand why it's been dropped though.

llnnsensuppe

About the last part on how to "organize + get change done", you guys should read Marshal Ganz's People, Power, Change (or at least parts of it) and look what labour union organizers like Jane McAlevey did their whole life. Both influenced aspects of Mamdani's mayoral election campaign as well as the result of that we currently see. Can't wait to watch these four and a half hours again in a few weeks with the resignation situation being addressed.

Max

Kevin Lynch is my bishie is a sentence I never thought I'd hear.

Tucker Morris

Flashed on my boy's Bork to this. Thanks Hbomb! Thanks Kat! Thanks Big Money Salvia!

LuLuLizard

Loving the video, I will say that - because I feel like people will call you out on it otherwise - you may want include at least a brief vocal acknowledgement that Kamala Harris' stance on Israel and Palestine is basically the exact same as Biden's and she was just going to carry on with the bs that he himself was doing. Sorry if you do actually say something to that effect and I somehow missed it.

Ian Ramsay

Hello, longtime/first time here but I watched the video last night and felt like I could give some feedback. Overall I thought the video was good. There’s some good jokes in there and overall I walked away feeling like I learned something. However, as I ruminated on it over the past 24 hours, I couldn’t help feeling a bit disappointed. I think the video could be a lot shorter, as others have pointed out things like the peloton tangent don’t really go anywhere. At multiple points during my watch, I’d look down at the playbar and say “what is this building up to?” And for it to be a 10-ish minute endorsement for blender/FOSS was kind of just an “oh, ok” reaction from me. To be fair, I’m a (relatively recent) convert to Linux so I’m a lot more familiar with that world at this point. I share your enthusiasm for FOSS, I think the concept is beautiful, and the people who contribute/maintain those projects are heroes. When you brought up how you wanted to make a video about that at the end, I really wished that more of this video had been focused on that. This is def more of a personal peccadillo, but I was also kind of rubbed the wrong way about the treatment of Media Composer. Yeah, it looks like ass and like 8 years ago they tried to make it look/act more like premiere and it made everyone who used it mad, but for all it’s clunky-ness it does have a place. I basically did the same thing you did in college in that I was forced to learn MC in class and decided to just teach myself premiere because it was more intuitive, but when I started getting jobs in industry it became pretty clear why all the big studios/networks use it. It’s way more stable than premiere, it can interface with external devices like tapedecks a lot better, and there’s things you can do in MC in two clicks that take a massive amount of effort in premiere (ever try to export anything non stereo in premiere? Nightmare.) Also what’s wrong with keyboard shortcuts? They make those exact keyboards for every NLE. All the MC hate just kind of came off as a personal grudge that also kind of goes against the spirit of the end of the video. Is it that bad to learn another piece of software? There’s stuff that MC is really good at and writing it off completely came off less comedic and more ignorant. Either way, good job on getting the vid to this point, I hope it drags more people away from SaaS garbage

LuLuLizard

Also I know a lot of people are saying that the title might need to be changed but I disagree. I think it's kind of like how Princess Mononoke is titled that even though she isn't the main character because she represents the central conflict of that film. Perhaps there needs to be a bit more of a through-line for Adobe throughout the video, or a trim down of the other examples given which makes up a pretty large chunk of the video, but either way I think the idea works. To be clear though I definitely understand wanting to put all of these companies on blast for all the world to see (since this video is pretty much guaranteed to get a LOT of views) and I did enjoy watching you discuss these different examples.

Aarón Martín Dionis

oh yeah i did undertand that illuminati reference. And yes, that means ive watched the plagiarism video too many times

Steven

I suppose my only suggestion would be a callout to the Godot Tutorial creator Heartbeast. They switched from Gamemaker Studio when it looked like they were going to, and eventually did, introduce subscriptions.

Alex Th

Was it actually “one female viewer” or “female viewers”? I thought it was the latter, which definitely has a different, better, vibe…though arguably still with issues.

Matt Owen

Thank you for sharing this with patrons and for soliciting feedback! This is the least satisfying feedback I could offer, but it's also the most true to my experience: This was fine. I'm glad I watched it, and I'm happy it exists in the world and will be seen by millions of people. I also think it a low probability re-watch for me when it goes live. Other recent videos like plagiarism, Roblox oof, even Deus Ex and RWBY in their own way, have had these fantastic turns part way through where it turns out the video is not about the thing the video appears to be about. Those moments are incredibly compelling and turn me into a serial re-watcher. This video doesn't have that moment - the thesis is broadcast relatively early on. Take this for what it's worth, and notably, please don't take this for what it's not worth. Don't rewrite the entire thing to add a "twist." This video is thoughtful, informative, and the subject is incredibly important. Feel free to just this as one data point among many as your consider your future content. Thank you again, and I look forward to watching more from this channel long into the future!

rickr0ss

Needs more Erik tbh. Also the quick clip where he breaks the chair seems to reference a whole scene or bit or something that maybe didn't make the cut so it was kinda confusing.

Max Van den Berg

I love the juice background bit so much, although I do feel like that chapter is too long

Vincent Roberts

As someone who is actively working on breaking into a creative field where a lot of the tools used to work within it are Adobe-Based, the entire final section of this video brought a legitimate tear to my eye.

Lucky Dagger

Same here as a Gravity Falls fan. Then again the GF episide breaks felt a lot longer as a mystery series.

ByYourCommandIGuess

...Okay so egg on my face, I conflated the Apple v Epic case with the Sony v Nintendo case, which Channel Moon *did* cover quite a bit (To be fair, it's a similarly relevant case, since the minutiae of that one would've risked emulation and related services becoming illegal), buuuuuut Hoeg Law does a pretty good breakdown of why the ruling makes sense (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CMV8KIs3E). The tldr is that Epic's argument was founded on the idea that iOS had a monopoly on iPhones, and the court ruled that iPhones and iOS were functionally a package deal. It wasn't about the Apple App Store, it was about the phone itself.

firethorn

I am losing my mind that millions of people are about to be exposed to just a sliver of the madness that is Unboxing Ring. It's like it reframes the entire video as one of Tyler's breakdowns. God bless you. My feedback: I almost don't think you need to talk about the term enshittification at all. I feel like it almost downplays how bad all of this is beyond a word that just means "the worsening of things". I think the language used on how to organize these changes is very well done, too. If I knew any more organizations like the EFF I would say mention them too, but I'm not sure, that's why we needed this video lol

Lucky Dagger

Anyone else having trouble getting it to play on mobile web browser?

firesonic152

I’m about 3 hours in but had to take a break and come back - the video remembers my timestamp, but keeps playing from the beginning? Moving around the timeline has no effect, it just plays from the beginning. Is anyone else having a similar issue?

KT Poofity

Coming from a 10 year optical dispenser (baby optician) - Essilor Luxottica has all the lenses too. They're also in there with luxury company called Atelier - which also has a bunch of other 'luxury brands'. Raybans basically at cost haven't changed since the 90's. Same with Oakley. It's just they own it, so they can dictate how much you spend on them. They have a minimum buy in when you want to carry them, and most of the time, if you want to have stuff people "want" you need one of those core lines of frames. Sorry, nerded out for a bit. I'm still only 51 minutes into the video! Nice job!

Scott Hoke

I feel like you could cut the car tirade and make it an hburger vid

Dane

Great work on the ADR in front of the saloon. Well done.

ZaitsevFred

Can't go wrong with Mint. Jump in with both feet!

Robbie H.

Lol I just noticed more and more monster cans appearing ol

chaddicus

The other day, a thought struck me. Why do we allow corporations to totally own the infrastructure of the digital world? We'd never allow them full ownership of roads, water, sewage, electricity, trains, and other critical infrastructure. Sure, those are mostly managed by corporations, but always with strict oversight or ownership by the state. They're public goods, so of course they should be publicly accountable and publicly funded. So how is the internet any different? Granted, it was different back when it was invented, but it's not now. People's lives and jobs are on the internet now, or rely on it, so in my view, that's a public good. What I hope we will work towards is governments or publicly accountable and funded corporations owning and supporting fundamental digital infrastructure. Frankly, a giant tech corporation like Adobe or Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to just take down websites or computers because they feel like it. Spotify or Amazon shouldn't be allowed to remotely brick devices you bought because they feel like it. If a corporation sunsets a digital good, product, or service, it should automatically go into the hands of the public, whether through open sourcing or through transfer of ownership to a government entity, where it can be preserved for as long as it is useful. Open source projects which maintain such fundamental infrastructure should receive public funding, just like roads and telephone poles do. This we maintain the chaotic, wild side if the internet where companies big and small can take risks, and we insulate the public from the whiplash these risks often generate. This long-winded hope is part of why I'm grateful you're making a video like this. I genuinely think that how we handle the threat of late-stage capitalism will be a great determining factor in our prosperity as a species for the next several decades, perhaps even the next century or longer. We can do this the hard way of getting people to agree on something for a change, or the harder way of ignoring the problem until it all collapses and we have to rebuild. Your videos are paid attention to. You speak, and the internet listens. So thank you for using that outsized voice to speak on this pivotal issue.

Silent

That was a great video. What do I do with my life now?

nekomusumeninaritai

*fourth clone of Hbomb* actually, there's going to be a sequel on free software (eventually)

nekomusumeninaritai

I think it's a bit tricky. You're right that it dragged a bit, but also the breadth of coverage of monopolistic malfeasance seemed necessary to convey that it's not just an Adobe problem or even a software problem but a systemic issue. Especially because apologia for these companies among liberals feels fairly common. So I think I see why the video took so long.

nekomusumeninaritai

Kat said in reply to some other comments that they're taking it out.

nekomusumeninaritai

The nice thing about free software is that even if it gets acquired, if the company abuses its power too much, the community can always fork the project. So software like GIMP and Blender is safe to learn.

nekomusumeninaritai

Thank you for making this. I'm a member of a maker space, and occasionally the topic of CAD or other software comes up. I generally strongly recommend other members use free or open source software to design their projects, and I'm really happy I'll soon have this video to point to when I make my case that maybe it's a bad idea to enmesh yourself in Autodesk's or Adobe's system, even when the software is currently more intuitive than FOSS offerings and you can afford it (for now).

Cierra

This is tangential, but I believe related to the underlying trends in this video, the prosecution of white collar crime has diminished significantly in the US in the past 15 years or so. In my opinion that explains a lot about why these people are so comfortable sending emails confessing their crimes to each other.

Fallen_Thespian

"I have a joke that relies on Keir Starmer being prime minister" Oh Well

Maria

Missed opportunity for an HD DVD joke

Jada Pada

Haha, love the Town With No Name sign at 1:50:17

Nathan Fritz

Regarding game streaming, there is Moonlight and their branches. Awesme stuff to replace Nvidia being shitty again. Loved the video!

Harvey Danger Noodle

Harry you think I’m just going to sit through a four hour video because you made it…well you’re right

Boring Keith

At first I kinda thought this lacked structure, like there was no way that listing examples for over four hours was going to make sense. But by the end the enormity of it, and the number of facets of society that are affected by it... it just kinda beats you into submission. Until you transition from the "this is fine" dog to the "how did we let things get like this" dog. It's the kind of art that would inspire massive change in a just world. But in a just world it wouldn't need to exist.

4las

I came here to say this also and it's so nice to see the feedback being listened to, we appreciate you guys! For the record though I think perhaps if it had been run past masc crafters also the reaction may have been a bit different, as for me it felt not great to be saying to my screen "oh god is he really going to call it cri-cut for this whole segment is that a weird british thing fucking brits" and then immediately have that laugh of the joke and *then* a second later going ah wait wtf I've just been called a female, did we really just gender crafting? Just wanted to give that insight as a masc crafter who did initially laugh at the joke and then still also felt ick about it. It was funny because he was absolutely right about me correcting him, not because of the gender essentialism.

AquariaMoon

There's follow up actions they're getting into!

Adam Gaffney

Thinking about how in school, I used AutoCAD in Techy class and Sibelius in Music, plus Excel in Accounting and Word in fuckin every other class. How expensive is running a school now you have to perpetually pay for however many licences, instead of just paying once for a bulk of licences and then using them with students for years to come. Imagine how much education is lost because public education just simply can't afford to run those parts of these classes.

AquariaMoon

Just replying for emphasis, had the same thought but forgot to mention it in my comment

EirFryer

Yeah kinda same as a nonbinary crafter lol I had basically the exact same response to the initial pronunciation. I’m not terribly offended by the gendering but I can totally see why it would upset some folks (also I’m not the best person to measure that sort of thing, it takes a lot to offend me in any serious way)

EirFryer

Congrats dude, that’s amazing! And honestly same, recently rediscovered my own creativity after I got totally worn down trying to get a graphic design degree and just absolutely despising how Adobe products just killed any desire to create and the tutorials just were not helpful at all! Whole vid feels very vindicating honestly.

EirFryer

Oh my goodness yes! It was so difficult to use Sibelius when I took music theory and it really discouraged me at the time, good to know I wasn’t crazy because I took that class around the time it was at its worst, my teacher insisted it was a great program, it was maddening

FirebirdEternal

I'm not sure I can put into words any meaningful criticism or commentary since it's 4am for me right now. All I'd like to say is that over the course of this video I have felt angry (Humorously), angry (Less humorously) Furious, Bleakly despairing, and finally, excited and hopeful. I think that that's a good journey to have gone on. Thanks.

Jana

You have no idea how much I I needed this video right now. I was thinking about escaping the Adobe hellscape for a while now, because I have a small company (not going into any details what we do as this would demonetaize your video straight away [yes I know we're not on Youtube, you're not the only one allowed to make a joke :3.]). I use Godot for my newer project since 2.5 years now and learned blender ever since 2.8 came out... so ... yeah... I felt pretty called out when you did the Blender Bit. My company PC runs on linux since February this year and I never looked back. I have another PC that runs the Adobe suit, but that will be gone by the end of the year. I thought about a Linux dual boot, but fuck it, Windows and Adobe can all go straight to hell for all I care.

Emily Dimpfl

I hope that in the followup video (this one is probably long enough without getting into this as well), Hbomb discusses the growing importance of Software Foundations as being the best way (that we currently have) of developing software that industries collectively depend on. The Linux foundation and Cloud Native Computing Foundation are backbones of modern cloud compute, and CNCF's work came about because of the need for competitors to Amazon Web Services to pool their resources. Now, companies fund or contribute to CNCF's projects to address their needs rather than paying Amazon (or Hashicorp, GitHub, etc), and everyone benefits from common tools like Kubernetes, ArgoCD, OpenTofu, and containerd. Programming languages like Python and Rust are also developed in their own foundations, and that helps them maintain autonomy for the collective good. In consumer software spaces, Godot, Blender (both mentioned in the video), Krita, and even suites like LibreOffice all have foundations, and I hope that this trend extends to many other fields of creative work in the future. Developing serious competition to the tools shown in the video is a time consuming, challenging, and expensive process, but looking at the rates Adobe (and others) are charging, it certainly wouldn't be impossible to fund a foundation for the development of tools that whole industries of creatives rely upon.

seraf

fantastic!!! i cant wait to see the full version this is absolutely making it into the top ten List Of Videos I Replay Over And Over i would love to see some of the other stuff you mentioned about enshittification/technofeudalism! in part just because i'm greedy to be sure but i think a bit more touching on technofeudalism would be welcome/even just giving it a bit more background and context as a term? this was so so good i loved all of the visual gags

Monsy

i disagree with people saying the video is too long. it's perfect. please don't shorten it, i beg you. every tangent and example strenghtens your final point

Jonnie

I think it should be included that despite steam not charging a subscription, you don't own the games you buy, just a license like every else.

Timberdoodle

I have never felt so motivated to switch to linux, haha. :D

ib_

definitely way too late to make major additions to this, but if you are interested in another borg cube company that once made software and now just invests in and neglects plucky new software, ESRI is the de facto king of Geographic Information Systems (GIS) and they pull all the same shit as Adobe. QGIS is an example of an open source alternative that actually provides a meaningful alternative that works better for individuals

Rach

Right so should I watch this now or wait for the final version...this decision has been haunting me for days

Sheepless

1:24:15 I can't believe this video is made by someone who honesty believes horses are real ew

Catherine Fox

I'm curious, when a video gets this long is it worth it to split it up into parts posted as separate videos on YouTube, or is viewership better when it's one full video? I guess we have chapter markers now so splitting it up isn't necessary.

ehh

Please don't talk about the Trans Viking Monster energy drink like that.

Isaac Jensen

Aww, wasn't expecting to see the Ouya. I still have one of those collecting dust somewhere at home.

Burretploof

It would be so funny if he just bought the Clerks 2 HD-DVD for the bit.

Claire Than

Why should I care if a corporation is scamming another corporation? Apple absolutely shouldn’t be as powerful as they are but why would I be on Epic’s side?

DiscoClam

In the Plagiarism video it was clear, from the start, the video is about plagiarism, tackling it from a bunch of different angles. In the DX:HR video it was always about the game, and when talking about anything else it was clearly done to compare it to Human Revolution. Here I don’t think it’s quite the same - it’s a video about Adobe, but then we’re talking about about EasilorLuxottica, Juicero, Peloton, BMW and several other companies, and it makes the pacing feel weird, like we’ve suddenly changed the subject entirely. It makes the pacing feel off, and I found myself checking the time or feeling a little bored during these points because i felt a little confused about what the point was. Obviously I’m not talking about rewriting the entire thing but I think if the intro were a little clearer why the other companies are important to the conversation it would help how the pacing feels later on. It’s all looking great otherwise, the whole team should be proud!

Patrick Duganz

1:31:00 — Hair Stylist: I Wish. That’s a fun freeze-the-video joke.

Radiant Veil

i think you need to reshoot in Temecula just to add more monster cans

pixearles

Ah, I was waiting for Godot

Tina Haq

09:15 My partner: "joke's on you, we're both software engineers" :D

Matt Babineau

At first I was like “aw he cut the joke about getting distracted by game sound effects and whatever the hell this is” then I heard the wedding photographer joke that replaced it and I will take that tradeoff

Oliver

Holy mackereel, pickereel, and really truly twirly-whirly eel!

Myshu

The Blender community congratulates you on your doughnut, though

Byron Ritchie

why are you on a leftist youtuber's patreon page if you hate leftists and leftism? like you had to pay the dude you hate to comment on here

Anilyka Barry

If we're talking about free software replacing Adobe garbage, I've been using DaVinci Resolve (which you've mentioned) and GIMP; a free and open-source image manipulation software which I've been using for years (though the learning curve is quite steep, which isn't very surprising).

Tony Vega

you mention something called a "horse" an hour and 24 minutes in. idk what this is?

Lucky Dagger

The increasing amount of Monster Energy on the set is great. Please use whatever means necessary to put even more in the video for the final version.

Alistair Richelieu

So, one thing I want to bring up about Avid: yes it's difficult to learn, but only if you started editing video digitally instead of editing film physically. For someone who used a steenbeck, Avid is actually pretty intuitive. I learned on a steenbeck, even though that was only like 10 years ago, and initially found avid far more usable than Final Cut. That's probably why Cameron still uses it. I've always wondered if that's why avid made their software that way, but never did the research as to why.

Sophie May

I agree but I don't think that part of the video should be lost to the void because I personally found it really interesting, I definitely think a compromise is uploading some of the excess to the second channel for freaks like me while keeping the main video more concise.

Slinger

You're like a frog in a pot of water screaming about it heating up Hbomb, you gotta chill. Once we live in the megacorp world made of monopolies the trickle down economics will kick in and we'll all live like kings! We'll all be rich!

Slinger

I remember when Steam started charging in Euros and they just changed the $ to € and all games in Euro countries became like 1,8x more expensive.

Jordy Nelson

I fear i may have ruined one of hbomb's statements in the video. at 3:53:42 he says 0% of his patreon uses the in-app subscription option... meanwhile i used it to sign up after the video was uploaded. i guess yall can call me the undiscerning patron 🥴

Slinger

Why are there no small companies that say "Stuff your millions where the sun don't shine, we'd rather keep a loyal customer base"? Can everyone be bought?

M.

Idk if anyone mentioned it, but for CSP if you want to use desktop and iPad versions you need to buy it twice - the subscription is only for 1 device and the perpetual license is only for desktop. The tablet version is subscription only.

Slinger

Viking berry is great, I just wish there was a sugar-free version. Maybe I need to pay a subscription to access that one?

Nicholas Huff

I get the feeling that this video is long because that demonstrates that the content is important (it is) and it reflects how much research was done, but I’m not sure that the story requires this length. In other videos, tangents would have an interesting nugget that would snowball into the continuing narrative, and that made it fun, but in this video those tangents often feel like supportive evidence without narrative momentum. It’s also possible this is a function of being labored over too long. Time to stop adding and start trimming?

Slinger

Hi Erik!

Alexandra Falk

I'm going to wait for the polished version to watch, but I am so, so thrilled that you've conquered this beast. And my fellow patrons who will watch and provide feedback, you're doing Sobek's work! Right on!

Slinger

Babadobees?

Slinger

This is like diving into a Wikihole but I don't have to read, yay!

is

maybe if you used that keyboard only video editing program james cameron uses your wrists would be better off

ClowningSanta

Comparing AirTags to dedicated GPS trackers is a false equivalency. AirTags do not have built in GPS receivers. they broadcast Bluetooth signals that are picked up by surrounding devices on the Find My network. GPS devices communicate directly with satellites, which is why their hardware and use cases are completely different.

caracalled

you really like the word "pittance" and you like to say it with a little gusto (3:05). Good video.

Soran

That comment about drawing furry pornography in a second screen was scarily accurate LMFAAOO. well maybe not the pornography part but i was drawing deltarune mom yuri while watching it.

TheGirlFromTheFourthPlanet

Did I just experience doom and despair for 4 hours, just to end on an hopeful crescendo at the end? As a software developer I had this discovery of free software back in the late 90's, when I discovered Linux and the compilers and editors and tools, and it was just the same excitement of having Blender and GnuIMP and Krita and Inkscape. And Ardour, and Kdenlive, and Guitarix, and many more. Thanks for making me experience again this feeling of hope and possibility from the great things the community can achieve. Thanks!

Krolmeister Sisters

"Now let's get the hell out of Temecula" is what I said every time I would visit family lol

Kat

Oh yes, we're aware of Blender Guru lol

theo green

i also have a dissociative disorder (not schizophrenic, but have experienced psychosis more than once. regularly experience extreme derealisation/depersonalisation) and the rise in the use of "psychotic" and "psychosis", especially as words for bigotry, evil, and right-wing rhetoric and propaganda, is so upsetting. it hurts every time. thank you for saying something. i'm usually terrified to do so because people normally get so angry if even gently challenged on it. wanted to lend my voice and say that i agree. hope that's worth something.

Joshua Fane

Fantastic video as always, definitely had me feeling hopeless at times but the ending was refreshing. I wouldn’t say I’m an artist or animator but learning to use Blender to aid in a software project a decade ago was a fantastic experience for me. Grueling, at first, but so worthwhile. Thanks for reminding me that I just recently purchased a bunch of Godot literature from Humble Bundle!

RolfPlus

Please keep making videos forever. The only bad part was the doorbell sound freaking out our dog when we had a viewing party

Six Large Cats

Agree 100%! I get the urge to do it but a lot of people rely on subtitles and when they don't match the spoken words (looking at you, Netflix), it's super jarring

Six Large Cats

I know I'm late to the party on this but I wish you (and society in general) would stop using "psychotic" to mean "evil" or "sinister" or things like that. e.g. around 57:35. It feels like excusing the actions of normal corrupt people by going "well there must be something WRONG with them. they're not a full person", even if I very much doubt the intent is to give people like Bork an out. and that's not getting into the history of how people with psychosis get treated by society.

bluetybloop

The website is back up and works now, so you no longer have to download anything. I’d steer clear of the UHC. Its current owner spread a bunch of lies and propped up a misinformation campaign to smear trans women and nonbinary artists. He’s part of the r/homestuck ecosystem, which is extremely toxic. For example, his friends openly say that Hussie is faking being trans for attention, and were harassing trans creators because they had a history with SW. If you’re getting into homestuck, just join the official discord server. Reddit, the UHC, and the reddit discord server are not a safe places for queer people. They’re full of slurs, open transphobia, and homophobia. For example, they’re genuinely anti drag queen. Official homestuck spaces like Fruity Rumpus and the official discord are much less risky, even though obviously no fandom space is perfect.

ShowyJozy

In the best possible way, reaching the credits on this video inspired the same feelings I got on my first read of "Press Reset" by Jason Schreier, or "Freakonomics" by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner. You took a subject I've brushed shoulders with, but never gave the time of day, and catapulted it into the upper stratosphere of my mind. My view of the world is forever shifted, if only a little. And for that I thank you. Adobe doesn't need to be the standard. I think it's about time I explore what else is out there

Kokou

Your videos have become more and more political, and while some would find this to be a good thing, I find it to be a great one. Love your stuff, hope I can give you more money in the future.

DaisyMaisy

Incidentally when I finished uni and cancelled my adobe subscription (because I was about to lose the student discount price) the main method I heard from my classmates to get out of paying the cancellation fee was to call support on the phone and start crying saying you couldn't afford it, and then they'd feel bad and waive the fee lol

Jake

This is beautiful. I just have to know... how long would this have been if you didn't cut anything out? Is it possible that there is a world where you uploaded a 24 hour video?

Sim

I find myself reminded of info tech classes in high school around a decade and a half ago and how they really pushed a 'Great Man' style rivalry between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. In three years of info tech, we never learned about the countless people who made these companies work, but were encouraged to see them like sports teams to root for.

Yotefang

did you know?: hbomberguy is like the classic OGs of leftist youtube

Trygve Prestø

Fun example of the "wages is what makes you profit"-bit: While I'm not certain exactly what the numbers are (or if they're still valid), Games Workshop, who makes and sell the miniatures, paints and rules for Warhammer 40.000, Warhammer Age of Sigmar and a few others, supposedly kept agreeing to raising their employees wages pretty consistently. While it could be argued it was a way to retain loyalty, keep empolyees from moving to competitors or to reward their ever rising profits, the most likely explanation for just agreeing flat to so much, is that their employees were all also some of their most loyal customers. Increasing their own employees wages meant their employees would have more money to spend on hobbies like Warhammer.

Matthew Squires

I decided to watch it. I know I’m going to end up watching this one a few times over the next few years while we wait for the next vid so what the hell

Максим Л

Joined your Patreon recently. Being called out as the only sucker who uses Apple payment for subscription was funny

Nick Spohn

Just got to 2:05 and was reminded that Lightwave 8 existed.

K.Wolf

Lots to reflect on and dig deeper on. I also learned that people here are way smarter and more knowledgeable about stuff than me. I can also report I will listen to you about any topic. You're going to have to try harder than this, guy.

june

maybe a little more information about how and who is responsible for smaller companies being bought out by bigger ones and why it seems so unavoidable? are these all ‘hostile takeovers’ or whatever or do people genuinely believe they are doing the right thing when they agree to these mergers / the money is too large to say no to even if the ethical ramifications are catastrophic? well done on the video otherwise to everyone involved

Alma

I'm one of weird people who would sometimes run .swf files locally on PC and it's so much easier and reliable with Ruffle comparing to official Adobe Flash Player

Huw Evans

Total nitpick, but at 2:36:40 you imply that the large funds that own a chunk of the car makers exert management pressure to run subscription models (or that the companies otherwise worked together because of this shared ownership) This is a bit of a misconception (thanks Adam Curtis?). I can’t speak to all of the funds you listed, but Vanguard and BlackRock deliberately don’t seek to apply strategic pressure on companies under management. Their passive funds (most of their capital) are usually run to only take proxy votes in the board’s interests—in other words, they don’t seek board seats or try to persuade CEOs, they just vote on shareholder decisions like executive compensation, and almost always do what the board recommends. It’s highly unlikely that these funds played any role in the auto makers’ decisions. See https://corporate.vanguard.com/content/corporatesite/us/en/corp/about-our-funds/proxy-voting-across-funds/how-the-funds-vote.html I’d probably just cut the line? It doesn’t add much to your argument I reckon

SonicPsycho

The gun skit made the four hours worth it

SonicPsycho

Idk if this happened to anyone else but when i go to subscribe to a patreon through the app it just takes me to the website

WishMakers

Video's absolutely fantastic. I'll join the conversation and note all the bits I thought were fascinating. I can see how this video turned from an "open source is good actually" video in reverse, because the problems really are that deep. I know others are saying that the smart home/car tangents go a bit too far... I personally disagree, because they are important to the discussion BUT you could go the Illuminaughty route and make it a second channel segment, and reduce its mention in the video to make it more concise, but still get across the idea that it's ubiquitous in not just software now. It's preaching to the choir but I also thought the Cricut joke was a bit too low brow. Oh well, Kat said in another comment it's getting removed anyway. It is a bit of a shame that the actual part of the video talking about open source as a solution had to be cut so short, but I found it really hope inspiring and I hope it does for other people too. Gotta say too, Flash worming its way back into the story with a Steve Jobs Twist was definitely not on my bingo and I was pretty excited about it. Even when this video gets long winded, the storytelling is great. I do think there are a number of bits that mess with the pacing in the first half that DIDN'T before. The previous patron cut felt better paced, even though I think the segments were longer there. If you're looking for specific examples, I can watch both this and the previous cut and make a reply. Though I will say the entire Bork section has a lot more detail and connective tissue in the script and that's appreciated. Overall though I am nitpicking. I'm so excited for the public release.

katieeatsrocks

Tangentially related to this video, I 100% recommend the book A Dictator’s Handbook. It addition to discussing how dictators obtain power and stay in power, the authors apply the same principles to CEOs and their board of directors. Slimy!

HeavyOverlord

Capitalism is bad, and here is why

beesups

Me: Watching video on a second monitor drawing kink porn. "Heh, almost got me"

connrs

Your left eye's pupil is sucking me into its void during the coda. I accept the my fate and thank you

theo green

i understand what you're saying. people want and need a word to express the wrongness of something, how off and cruel and extreme it is. but psychotic people are not evil, and psychosis is not a symptom of or an expression of evil. please think about *why* "psychotic" might feel like the right word for what you're describing, and what that says about how society thinks about people with dissociative disorders.

Taitenator

At 1:29:09 you point a toy gun directly at the camera and my Patreon decided to choose that exact moment to refresh the page, meaning it looked like you actually shot the video itself

Igor Alves

I sure hope I don't get called a worm! : D

Jonathan Hildebrand

Amazing as always! I'll probably be leaving some audio notes here. I would love some eq to remove the bright resonance in the cell around 1:30

Shad

As a composer and producer, when you talk about different DAWs, you mention many popular ones, including Reaper. Reaper is climbing up the ranks, although it’s really hard to master. I’m a little disappointed that you didn’t mention FL Studio. I know it’s often seen as a “kids’ toy” and something that’s only for making beats, but it has come a long way. I use it for all genres since it’s what I learned first. All the ARA stuff, along with the mixer/playlist overhaul, is coming as we speak. And the biggest thing: FL Studio has always had lifetime free updates. If you bought it in the ’90s for a few dollars, you can still use the same license with the newly released FL Studio 26. There aren’t many companies that offer something like this, and I think it’s worth mentioning.

Junileaf

kdenlive is pretty good from what I understand

Paul

HUMAN WORK TOGETHER GOOD

Emanuele Martignon

Great video. In the section about Ubisoft killing The Crew, it looked like you were going to talk about the "stop killing games" petition. Maybe you could add a small tangent about that.

Junileaf

After sitting on it for a few days, I still agree with my original points. Additionally, maybe make a "I am moving away from adobe by seeing if I can use " as part of the call to action. Your thesis is: these tech companies have too much power and until we can break them up - switch and contribute to FOSS alternatives; so it feels a little hallow if you are still using adobe products.

Corbin Neuhauser

I fucking love that yarn blood effect god damn. Excellent use of reversed footage. Helll yes.

Christopher Apostolof

Nothing like having a career based on a company only to get murdered (VMware)

Zach

I'm so glad I'm not the only one to find themselves watching a 4 hour video on repeat for some reason lmao

Ashley Ulysses

"Money can be exchanged for goods and services" is a punchline from a simpsons episode where homer wishes to find an errant peanut but instead finds $20 (which may buy many peanuts) if you were wondering the origin

Ashley Ulysses

i planned my evening around watching this video also btw pls feel free to make the next one even longer

Felixir

What's with the audio at 28:13? At first I thought you dubbed that section, but the lip movement is synced up better than I'd expect you to pull off. But if it is dubbed, have you considered going into voice acting? 37:30 missed opportunity for a tantacrul cameo. 42:20 this is true. I had a course on founding startups at my university and being bought by Google was explicitly presented as a goal of founding a startup. One thing I find particularly bothersome with subscriptions is that you always have people, who do not benefit from it, defend it. For some reason many people assume, surely, their preferred company isn't going to use the power to remotely kill their products just because they sent out an update allowing them to do that. Everyone played monopoly and assumed it was fiction. 2:59:53 Did you change the lights or just the color grading? 3:25:48 As a software developer I must say Apples rule is nonsensical. Many applications written in C or C++ use code generation for some parts (e.g. UI) and a lot of JavaScript code is actually written in Type Script and then translated to JavaScript. What the rule really means is "We must like you" 3:37:30 Hold on, is that a tantacrul cameo?

VexedClown

behind the bastards did couple episodes of steve jobs. dude was a huge idiot as well as a cunt. he also refused to wash until his staff locked him out of a meeting until he washed his feet. jobs then went into the bathroom stuck his feet in the toilet and "washed" them.

Marci

I may be taking the “we want feedback” a bit too honestly. While this list may look extensive and the concerns may seem trivial this is what stood out to me as something either boring or uncomfortable. This list is not made out of malice but a genuine enjoyment of your content. ——— 9:20 I feel as if the AI joke doesn’t land. With heightened awareness of AI’s detrimental impact in human employment, originality, and with the extreme toll on the environment, it feels a little tasteless. 24:18 your use of psychotic in describing the silent movie spoof is casually ableist; using it as a substitute for like silly or stupid 26:52 the joke about firing your subordinate feels gross. like in actually abusive work environments jokes are often used to mask threats to employment over trivial stuff. I do not know you, yet my assumption is to give the benefit of the doubt. But joking in the way abusive bosses do highlights both the power dynamic and the gender dynamic that is often so prevalent in cases of work-place abuse. 42:53-44:45 talking about glasses companies and the illusion of choice seems tangential. While an interesting topic, it seems only loosely related b/c Adobe acquires competitors to erase their product, or at the very least their name. 1:31:36 (also 3:17:00) shit is gross. Many people, including myself, often watch youtube videos while eating. However i also see the value of the camera focusing it, while describing the topic. 1:47:15 I know it’s a joke but claiming “this is racism” when talking about regionally increased subscription prices feels tasteless. racism is different than xenophobia and the rhetoric of “reverse racism”, the idea of racism towards white people, is so widely-used by right-wing reactionaries that it feels no different than using any other white supremacist rhetoric as a joke. 2:43:00ish the peloton section feels repetitive, as you’ve already covered how everything is turning into a service, in detail. I’d prefer a briefer overview to avoid so much repetition. 2:48:34 “my female viewer” not only are you playing into the misogynistic idea that textiles are a “women’s art” you are also othering your female audience. You’re treating women, as a whole, like they are so ideologically different from your target audience that it’s like a communist at a NRA meeting. ——— as non-time-stamped critiques: I think the first 10 minutes should be cut down (the intro before talking about ad tutorials). my attention kept drifting until then, and 10 minutes is a lot of time to loose someone. Though this could be a me issue tho. I feel that from the peloton section to the start of the apple section, it is a bit too padded and drags a bit. The conclusion (specifically the call-to-action and how you made parts with blender), while the core is important, it also drags a lot. ——— Overall i do really like the video. Yall do an excellent job portraying corporate acquisitions, the resulting monopolies /oligopoly and the incentives for goods as a service as a systemic issue. I want to reiterate that all criticisms are genuine issues in my eyes, and they are meant to be constructive.

Gocubbies

Underrated comment, the middle two hours are a slog and just feel formulaic and a burden to get through. Definitely preserve it here and on his extra YT channel when this does release

Tinna Gigja

The volume levels are abysmal, I keep having to turn the volume up to hear what's being said, then down so I don't wake the neighbors.

All I want is Hbomb

damn, if this was the final test, I can definitely say I passed with flying colours watching this video made me all hot and bothered now I'm ready to both fight the big corps and marry Harry and/or Kat! like @Kitty and Bea said, I also think the cricut bit comes off as sexist, but fix that and I'm sold

ProfessorSangFroid

Hello Harry, Kat and Chat, Love the video. Made me very angry. Job well done!! On a note about Autodesk Evil TM, I work as a civil engineer at a civil engineering firm. I'm firm and firms like ours (architects, mechanical, plumbing etc) regularly use the drafting software Revit (owned by Autodesk). As a business our company has a business account with Autodesk. Up and till a few years how this worked is our company paid for a certain number of floating licenses that anyone could in the firm use. So say we have 200 employees and 40 Autodesk Revit licenses, not all 200 employees need the drafting program at the same time and we only really ran into issues during crunch time during peak hours and in which case you could ask if anyone could free up and license and usually someone had it open in the background and could close out. Think of it like renting drills (or microphones) and you can hand them off between employees as needed. That was the case until - in the words of our head of IT - "the CEO of Autodesk decided that his kids weren't going to an expensive enough private school" and Autodesk said actually you are going to pay for a annual license for each individual person and each person will need a discrete account to use our software, no more sharing a pool of license" so instead of say 40 licenses we now need to pay for 3-4x that number for the people who open the drafting software everyday and the project managers who don't do regular drafting will have to use those 1-day "tokens" mentioned in the video. And Autodesk is the only game in town so we pay and everyone in the AEC will pay because everyone is using Revit and running Cloud projects on their servers. Fuck Autodesk.

PostScript.

Older Cricut machines (like the models from 2008) came with individual software plug-ins (they look like game cartridges) that had fonts loaded onto them. You could (and my mother did) buy whatever individually offered font as a one time purchase and resell them separately like other disc software. That has been completely ended with new models of course, now it's all subscription based as you mentioned.

sand_pest

Time to put my pedantic hat on sorry! When you compared the UK and US price and found the UK price was 25% more - 20% of that is because the UK price includes VAT. The US price would have the State's sales tax added on at checkout.

Trygve Prestø

Quick question, what part of "every notation software" is bad? I haven't used Sibelius, only really Musescore, but what makes music notation software good or bad in this context? is it the sound library, the shortcuts or limitations how you can write the music? I'm genuinely currious as I've begun dabbling in writing music again

VasianKB

At Timecodes 28:01-28:25 your monologue cuts to you speaking from the studio while you're actively speaking on screen. It felt really weird to me seeing the de-sinc of it

cloudofentropy

I agree. After three 3 hour mark it felt like there was a lot of talking at the camera from the flower background. Interesting, but could probably be more ruthless with cuts there

cloudofentropy

I've had to watch this in 30 minute segments over 5 days as I have a toddler to manage so sorry I can't provide exact timestamps, but I noticed a couple of minor glitches and artefacting on a couple of sections - probably an upload thing but might be one to check when you rewatch the final draft

MisterAyed

As an old guy and Beastie Boys fan, I say sloooow it down, pace yourself

Evelyn

Wait, is THAT why Apple changed the charging cable to usb-c to usb-c instead of the lightning cable to usb, and an entirely new block that only takes usb-c and is also dogshit and takes up like 3 powerbar slots??

Valkhiya

It's me, I'm the one who was screaming "blender" at my screen for 4 hours

Кіберлєра

Unpopular opinion maybe, but I think this has serious issues with pacing and I think this could benefit from application of "kill your darlings" principle. It honestly feels like this should be 2 times shorter. After watching it once I don't recall it having a clear structure, just 5 hour rant about how capitalism is bad (that said I learned a lot about shady tactics of companies). Maybe I should have paid more attention, but that's my point exactly: if this is intended to reach new audiences and you want to convince other people (other than your fans) of something, perhaps it should be more digestible? A few videos instead of one perhaps? But take this comment with a grain of salt because the same can be applied to your Deus Ex video, but that one is one of my favorites despite everything 🤷‍♀️ P.S. That said, if it takes you another year or two to edit this, maybe just post it as it is 🙈

terrence

Thank you so much for this epic work ! As you want some feedack on the "what to do part", something tickled me a bit. When you said "While we wait for the world to be saved, we can at least do our part to save each other" in the context of talking about the state of for-profit vs open-source creative software, it seems to imply that the for-profit landscape is the "world" and open-source lanscape merely a temporary bandage while waiting for the system to be somehow sane through our representatives (but I doubt this was the intention). Because it's not crazy to think that the open-source landscape could be the standard (the world) someday, as we already see Blender becoming more and more an industry standard. (The line is really powerful though) On a more global view, I think this isn't crazy either that the world would be saved by people enjoying doing things on their own and with each other without being dependant on institutions and representatives, and stretching it to every dimension of daily life (the big "R" ?). This could be one of the "alternative" routes you mentionned earlier, as you admit not being that fond of the incrementalist "representative" approach (if I understood correctly). As someone who participates in "grassroot" / "autonomous" organizations, the way you talked about the joy of using blender and godot feels really familiar. We do feel it empowering and thrilling to organize events and create things in an environment where we have full control (compared to a political party or pressuring representatives). Even though it's frecking hard and we suck, we tend to suck less. A lot of us felt a kind of existential switch when joining this kind of organization, really close to what you described. And I really believe that someday this could be contagious enough to change the world in a really profound way. So while I do think we should not denigrate the "slacktivist" approach you suggested first (as we might simply lose on the "alternative" routes), I do think we should not put ourselves a limit to what a "grassroot" approach could do, in creative software and society as a whole. But maybe that's just a political / strategical divergence, and I wouldn't mind. I have too much respect for you and your work. They are safe places that do save me from times to times.

Jed Downey

I had the cancellation trouble with Adobe in 2023 and rang them up to tell them I will not pay it. They let me cancel for free, they know its illegal! Thank you for highlighting this.

William Komocsar

"Fake my Death and become a wedding photographer" James' continuing downward spiral will be noted

sawq

and they do it yet again, get hopeful never kill yourself

Zach

"We forgot Kat" absolutely took me out XD

'~'

small bit of pacing feedback on the skit where you get a drink at the bar, its placement feels very "this bits very dense put a skit in the middle so they dont get bored" I dont know how easy it is to remedy that but its the feeling i get, great video overall though

'~'

also (and this might be a bit in the weeds) your already outdated kier starmer joke is now very funny given its making an argument for the platform that the new prime minister has taken, so maybe adapt that rather than cut it

fi

Really wish there was a good FOSS vector graphics software too :(

MisterAyed

Thanks for speaking up. I’m schizoaffective and have had several episodes of psychosis, and agree with your critique. I never would have said anything, so I’m appreciative of your raising this.

MisterAyed

Why are you here if you are so hostile to people for absolutely no reason? OP raised a concern, in response to an invitation to comment and make suggestions. OP didn’t make demands or attack Harry or the work, only raised a concern and asked how others felt about it. Clearly this was done in a respectful way, in the spirit of the feedback request. If it doesn’t matter to you, that’s fine. Why not move on to the next thing in your busy important life? What point is served Going out of your way to attack OP and anyone who happens to agree that a word change would improve the work?

MisterAyed

Also I’m a dude and rock the Cricut

PsyDuuk

2:40:20 - tiny nitpick but AirTags (famously) aren’t GPS devices, they only report their location when a phone is close enough to provide one through a type of Bluetooth connection (which sucks when you lose your keys on a remote hike….)

Rayn Olsen

In the time since this video came out Autodesk has also announced they are killing Mudbox. So thats another one down

Aki

I think the section around 2:00:00 about subscription models does a good job at driving the point home about how many companies started doing shitty subscriptions, but I also found myself zoning out a bit because it got a bit repetitive. One of those situations where I think the wealth of examples is good and would be excellent in e.g. a PhD thesis but I'm not sure it's the most entertaining watch.

Chazie

HEY I AM ONE OF THE 3 PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEARD OF MUDBOX!!! I even used it!! I'm a 3D animator I was in college for in the late 00s - early 10s and I think it came with the autodesk pack my school had. Most people used it for 5 minutes and then moved on to ZBrush lol

Paul

2:37:30 sorry pet peeve of mine, but you don’t mean immoral but morally bad.

DrKiIlgood

Fuck i hate avid. I spent over 3 grand on sibelius while i was in music school and have nothing to show for it. Meanwhile i got studio one for 20 bucks on black friday and theyre still honoring that lisence a decade later.

C

this video is going to radicalize someone into taking drastic action at Adobe HQ

feeby saturn

I watched this with my girlfriend. I'm so sorry we didn't pay for two license agreements to consume this video :c you can take me to court right away i don't care i deserve it

DrKiIlgood

2:47:00 i started staring at my ps5 for no reason

alex bain

Enjoyable video but honestly it feels massively too long. A lot of the sections feel like the anecdotes are just getting piled on top of eachother to a point where they just sort of blur together and actually make the larger points less impactful. When it comes to a lot of the examples of monopoly buyouts and forced obsolescence it feels like two or three really interesting great anecdotes would be more impactful then the pretty exhaustive lists that are in the video, maybe the full things could make a good side video cause I do think all the stories are interesting but pacing wise the video feels a bit unrelenting at points, just loads of quite similar stories. It feels like the video starts quite focused with the story of how anti-trust has fallen apart told through the story of adobe but as it goes a lot of rabbit holes are pretty exhaustively explored and the video really starts feeling its length. I understand the impulse to be very thorough but I think it throws the pacing and narrative completely off. The individuals parts of this video are really good and interesting and entertaining but I’d be lying if I didn’t feel like as a whole it’s maybe less than the sum of its parts, mainly due to the length which I just think is unreasonably long.

katie liljenquist

just to reiterate what’s been said already in some comments about the “one female viewer” joke. it reads as very dismissive of women’s interests and also very reductionist - as if that’s all women are interested in? men are not the default and it disappoints me to see hbomb make jokes like this a little bit. as a female viewer who gets this a lot from other interests, it’s not really a funny joke and i don’t think it adds anything to the script.

Vash101

I hope when this comes out, however the finished product may be, people take the time to learn some important history about something that effects everyone almost everywhere in everyway. I hope through understanding the course of mistakes that lead us here people can work together towards a change. Thank you for making this, fuck adobe.

Ian Stewart

Animating my next short film in Flash as I watch this, hating how good I am with it.

OneGhastlyGhoul

Mad props for all that work! I laughed a lot, your comedic timing is just perfect. And all the oldschool editing effects made me nostalgic. Amazing job! Very small points here from a 3D artist (who has indeed used Mudbox at university, but not even once at work): - You kinda made it sound like traditional modelling (props for talking about techniques like extruding and pronouncing "vertices" correctly) was the past, while sculpting is the future. Those are just different techniques for different purposes. E. g. I have to do a lot of technical hard-surface stuff I definitely couldn't sculpt. I totally get though that this is how you've always imagined modelling and that's where I'd put the focus on. - You can paint textures in ZBrush as well, which is why it felt weird that it only appeared in the sculpting segment and wasn't mentioned in the texturing segment. (Substance Painter is an excellent example nonetheless.) - The reason I was indeed yelling "Blender!" all the time was that you claimed Maxon was the only competition. It took a while until Blender was taken seriously (version 2.8 probably marked the change in 2019), but the sentence just felt wrong. - Please post your doughnut if you do one! <3

NeddyTheNoodle

Wow. You are an inspiration mr. british bomber man. I have in the last two years switched from any Adobe software and I use DaVinci Resolve now. I've also converted nearly my whole editing team to use DaVinci and like you outlined in your video, its not a long term solution, but its SOMETHING! I'm glad you have such a positive outlook and dont just give up like the super mega depressed millenials. Thank you for this master piece of a 4 hour long video. YOU DA GOAT.

Joshua Fane

Based on the conversations I saw happening around the Plagiarism video, releasing an early Patreon cut seems like it's done largely for this type of sensitivity reading (probably other proofreading too), I'd hardly say it's cannibalism. Every one of us parasocial worms would gladly die for our lord and savior Hbomb and it's only by his grace and whim that we haven't already been commanded to do so

Joshua Fane

Explaining that joke to my wife who, despite being all in on the last video, had somehow missed the back half of that saga was one of my favorite parts of the watch

Komojo

The whole time I was watching, I was just thinking this is a perfect advertisement for Blender.

Ian Stewart

I signed up for an Hbbbbbaomboerrrguy subscription on patreon one time and plan to cancel it after having watched this video and I had better not be charged a cancelation fee...

Kat

Which way do you pronounce Godot? The developers pronounce the actual game engine "go-DOT" but most people seem to pronounce it in the "waiting for Godot" way even when referencing the game engine, which is guh-DOH in American English and GOD-oh in British English!

Briar Rolfe

The quote from Bork's publishing career revealed to me an ANCIENT BIT OF PLAGIARISM committed by my ex-boyfriend's pastor dad, who published his own little pamphlet about how the gays were ruining marriage. He reproduced the line about the five genders as though it was his very own!! I was so scandalised by this knowledge that I nearly got in touch with him, but... you know. Probably best to not

Kat

We originally had more about network effects and Apple's garden wall re: messaging services and interoperatbility that we cut, but will make a note of potentially bringing it back...

Kat

Honestly at this point it might be easiest just to email us (contact@hbomb.zone) because we have so much to sift through!

Dr. Caesar MD

While a lot of the middle section of the video WAS interesting to me, it did start to feel like it was reiterating just ainteresting to me, it did start to feel like it was reiterating just a bunch of examples of the same point without really moving on into a new thing being said. I think mentioning them has its value for strengthening the point overall, but so much of it really could be relegated to like, a synopsis.

Max Russo

Incredible video so far, I'm an hour in and I can't tell you how long I've waited for this (can't tell you because, of course you already know) - the one thing I would say so far is this: Robert Bork is a dickhead. BUT I don't think the best think to do is to say that you're grateful he's dead, especially since one of the important things that I think people on the left can hold above the right wing crazy people (like Bork himself) is that we hold a level of empathy for their existance? Anyway thanks so much for finally releasing this, can't wait to watch the whole... four and a half hours!

Kat

Can you please tell me about your time as an antitrust attorney because I am dying to know everything

Kat

It's given me an identity crisis!! I loved my em dashes but now I feel like I must never have been unique 😭

Kemi Stanton

This would be extremely funny

Phidica Veia

I felt like you could have mentioned open source software as an "alternative" earlier on in the piece, I was just about yelling at my TV whenever you posed rhetorical questions about what alternatives there are and then started listing more paid software. Obviously you do come back to it eventually so you could say that it's coming or comment on why you won't talk about it so much. Loved it otherwise

Max Russo

I agree, I feel that now the alternate gate of HBurgerguy has been opened that this might be a good opportunity to use it and thus make the video more viewable by the general public by reducing the length by an hour or so? But also all the points that you make are important, and most of your regular viewers (myself included) would willingly watch a video you make no matter how long - but also the idea of monopolies and even Adobe *specifically* is still something that affects the vast majority of people who watch YouTube, and I feel that appeal to a wider audience is something important to aim for? But the video's still great.

Kemi Stanton

I just wanna let y'all know that even though I'm an audio engineer and I'm a 5'-nothing mousey stick of a woman, the call out to men with beautiful beards was infinitely funny to me. Like, 95% of my peers lmao I already know they will love this part (especially the Reaper mention, as I think I commented before I'm making that switch rn and it's a great DAW so far)

MartyMayhem27

I thought that at first too; thinking it was barely about Adobe. But i think the examples are important. It wasn’t until he went into the depth of the problem with back to back examples that I felt truly crushed and helpless.

Kat

Hahah sadly it was not that clever of joke indeed! Take comfort in being equally as or more funny than hbomb.

MartyMayhem27

It is referencing the idiom “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.” Looking a horse in the mouth is how a horse’s overall health was determined at purchase. But if you are given a free horse, you don’t look it in the mouth; you just accept it. Another way this is expressed is “beggars can’t be choosers.”

MartyMayhem27

With a tiny picture of her in the corner for some reason.

Kat

@rosie A friend of mine just published a book called "More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley's Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity" which would be excellent reading if you're interested in reading about EA and its brutal implications for SV and humanity

Kat

:|

Joan Flyvholm

I've just never heard it pronounced in british english i guess. My apologies, it just sounded really wrong in my ears. I'm from Denmark and would pronounce it "go-DO" like the french, or "go-DOH". That's what I've heard at uni and in videos before.

Jorunn

I resumed the video at work,after forgetting to connect my plugs, at the best possible time: Harry blasting the airhorn.

Philip

Enshittification definitely deserves more of a mention in this already 2 year pregnant video.

Gemma Corker

OH MY GOD I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS WHERE THE TERM "BORKED" CAME FROM

Dallin

Once you know about it, the open source rabbit hold is hard to climb out of. Could be fun to see you try Linux (casting my vote for KDE). On the off-chance you haven't heard about it, Graphite is a currently-in-beta, open-source vector program sort of like Inkscape. It's pretty neat, and I like to believe it'll be going places someday.

Alex Tompkins

Yessss get avid's ass, king 🔫 I got a perpetual license for sibelius a hunred years ago and you can rip it from my cold dead hands. It's not even a good software, I just use it out of spite at this point cause I know me fully owning a copy of this zombie software causes Avid psychic pain

Max Ramsay

Down 20 mins on your last video. You’re getting really concise Harry.

Max Ramsay

Coincidence, we think not.

TalkingCube

I haven't read through all the feedback and it has probably been weighed by the team already (so I apologies if this is redundant), but since there is mention of the EFF later on as a way to get involved would it be appropriate to mention the https://keepandroidopen.org/en/ call to action in the section about Google's crusade against 'sideloading' (time 4:02:33)? A few bigger voices from the android FOSS (and adjacent) space are chiming in as well through an open letter/petition (e.g. proton, f-droid, etc). The changes around "safety" through "developer verification" will go into effect at the end of September 2026 for users in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore and Thailand. (https://developer.android.com/developer-verification/guides?hl=en#locations) There's a small FAQ on the aforementioned CTA website that stresses how important it is to hold Google accountable even though sideloading is still technically possible: "Nine steps, 24-hour wait, buried in Developer Options, delivered through a proprietary service that Google can revoke whenever they want. That's not sideloading. That's a deterrence mechanism built to ensure almost nobody completes it. **And since it runs through Play Services rather than the OS, Google can tighten or kill it silently.**" (emphasis mine) Also rebuts the argument "Why would you care if you have nothing to hide?": "Whistleblowers, journalists, and activists under authoritarian governments will be the first victims. People in domestic abuse situations are next. All these groups have legitimate reasons to distribute or use software without putting their legal identity in a Google database. Anonymous open-source contribution is a tradition older than Google itself. This policy ends it on Android."

Dashaun Vegas

I reactivated my subscription (heh) to see this and it made me sad! But the Bork hate did buoy me. This was worth the wait. Can't wait to spend another 4.5 hours watching the final version!

Alex Tompkins

Anyway yes please talk a little more about the meaning and background of technofeudalism cause I think most people won't know

Nice Hat

1:006:00 Bonzo tried to save us

ghostdunk

I took one (1) economics class at the University of Chicago in 2001, and got into an argument with my professor over whether Microsoft was breaking antitrust law.

Levi Kessler

Absolutely incredible work, well worth the wait!! If you wanna integrate this, a popular open source drawing software is Krita. I think it might actually be pretty cool if you name open source alternatives for as many of the proprietary softwares mentioned as possible (I'm sure there's tons of ppl happy to weigh in with recommendations) I'm sure you'll find entertaining/humorous ways to do so

Nice Hat

2:24:00 I hope this section gets another rewrite because this is just doomerism. Staying with Adobe is just an objectively worse decision than using Davinci. Even if it turns evil in 2 years you'll have saved $1500 and denied adobe that profit.

this person

This was brought up when one of them was in the first 35 minutes video, and it’s really disappointing to learn that not only is it still in there, it’s used a second time. This shouldn’t be necessary or relevant, but besides it being hurtful and gross, I don’t think it’s good or clear writing. What does being funny in a “genuinely psychotic” way actually mean? In “psychotic nomination”, it’s already clear that the situation and the guy are awful, so is the word just for emphasis (if so, just use a different, not offensive, word) or calling people with these appalling views mentally ill (if so, uh, don’t do that)?

Redward

Took a break halfway through watching this video, then walked into the kitchen and my dad was loudly complaining about having to pay $150 for a subscription to use our own printer. “20 years ago it was yours and you could just do it” yes dad, that was before they shoved out all their competitors and started charging whatever they could get away with. What else would you like to know from the first half of a video I watched while trying to take a nap?

Margaret Lyon

In the time since Plagiarism and You(Tube) which is when I subscribed, I became pregnant, gave birth, and now my baby is six months old. There’s at least a daycare’s worth of infants belonging to this group who weren’t around at the start of this wait, haha.

Frenchy

10 dollars a month well spent

Kennon

LMFAO Harry, My Aunt and Uncle’s House is featured next door to Old West in Temecula! I just about shit myself at 26:52 seeing their RV in the background 🤣

Alfie

If my last name was Bork I would probably have no choice but to turn evil

William Collier

The Anti-Trust Act of 2026: Any corporation that controls 30% of a market cannot aquire other business in that market.

Blythy

I'm getting the impression that this is a four and a half hour takedown of all tech capitalism purely because Adobe tried to kill Newgrounds.

Tommy Hetrick

I used HitFilm Express briefly as a teen around 2016 on FilmRiot's rec, and I remember really liking it

Alex

I'm not a crafter so I might be missing something but all I hear is hbomb taking a shot at himself for having a relatively tiny number of women in his fan base. Do I understand correctly that your objection relates to using the word female in reference to 'crafters' as if dismissing it as being unimportant for that reason?

SarahGreyWolf

This has been well worth the wait, can't wait to see the full final product.

Francis Martin

Ha! Jokes on you; I definitely have sampled mackerel. If only my browser could play videos... (I'm pretty sure I messed up my Linux installation, so I've never gotten around to fixing it. I'll wait for the YouTube version.)

Alex

The word Psychotic refers to a loss of contact with reality. I'll have to go back through to see exactly where he uses it but having watched the whole video he certainly makes the point several times that what these corporations are doing has lost contact with reality. Serious question; If he described this corporate behavior as 'cancerous' would you object on behalf of cancer sufferers? If he'd said 'batshit crazy' would you have objected on the grounds that this is trivializing mental illness? I don't want anyone to use abusive language either but if he can't get any artistic license then he'll be reduced to strictly clinical language and that just isn't any fun to listen to. I don't want him reduced to describing things as "doubleplus ridiculous verging crimethink".

Alex

I've been going through the comments looking for oversensitive critiques of his choice of words...because I apparently enjoy riling myself up. You feel how you feel man, it's fine to react, he just doesn't have to change it. Myself, I would've gone with 'crotchfruit deleter'.

Dylan

Best two dollars I ever spent

Gatokal

Of course the moment Harris visits the states he’s immediately shot by a gun

Willo

Hate to say this made me pause at the two hour mark and finally buy a davinci studio license. I fear I have failed... </3

H

yea

Ian Stewart

So many intersections in my own life with this video. I'm animating my next short film right now and was considering doing it in Blender because I'd seen Decorado (another feature film done in the program you should check out) and it was beautiful, but this short film is too emotionally important to do in a brand new software. So I told myself I'd use this film as my Flash swan song then switch over to Blender. This video was very confirming for that plan. Also I was working in a 2D studio when the announcement was made that Flash would be killed and I can confirm that the noise you made was accurate. That is how we sounded. Lastly it's another banger of a video and I love it. And it seems like you're already working on the things that I think need tightening so... keep going dude.

animate cz

OMG, Captain Disillusion!

Radiant Veil

the bit of homer and homers brain being separate entities is my favorite running gag

Elinoris

I cant believe i cant just buy an hbomb patreon, even here its just harry wanting infinite money smh

PsyDuuk

One example of a software company that sells subscriptions only (but also has a free version!) but is still one of the good ones is JetBrains for programming software, and I personally think it is because they have to compete with the fact that programmers will otherwise just make their own open source version with the same functionality, idk if you needed another example but take it or leave it lol

Emily Ibison

Heh heh and thaaaaats tricky dick…. The watergate scandal man himself. Pretty cool man. 😎😏

KittyQueenTengu

I absolutely can't wait for the video where you make the donut

Jase Harrison

Anyone else up zeekying they boogy doog

Lily Berry

I honestly would love if there were even more of an exploration of FOSS options in this video, they really have gotten so much better over the last several years.

Lily Berry

Inkscape is, uh, occasionally useable I guess

Eric Dole

I disagree to a certain extent that he necessarily rambles in this but that instead he's siting a actually metric fuckton of relevant examples. And while sum of them are certainly bit repetitive I think that (1. Displaying a large volume of cases of these practices is important to show how wide spread and systemic these issues are and that it's not just "a few bad apples" and (2. There's enough variation between most of the examples used for each of them to show something slightly different.

Rachael

Excellent, so far I have memorised about the first 50 minutes from trying to watch this before bed, falling asleep, and repeating the process from the beginning because I don’t know where I left off. Soon I will know the entire script from memory, like vaccines and autism. I see no irony here.

RunningOutOfSocks

Yup, to me this was actually perfect as is. I see no point in adding barely noticeable background music to video essays, it's always just distracting

Samantha Kim

That's the grammatically correct and non-dehumanizing way to use "female" and "male," as an adjective to describe the noun ("viewer"), not the weird incel red pill way. For the sentence to make sense and use the word "woman," it would need to be changed to "my one viewer who is a woman," which is obviously clunky. I did find it to be a weird line because I interpreted it to mean that he has few female viewers, which feels a bit "WOMEN don't care about things like SOFTWARE and all the other NERDY and SCIENTIFIC topics I usually post about," but I'd be willing to bet he didn't mean it to come off like that.

Cindy Cynical

Same. That was a nice deep cut 😂

TRGabrielGF

There seems to be a segment about WeWork that's missing. The footage is there, the follow up about what happened to them is there, but it's never established who they are.

Scout

the tricky dick callback got me

Gaoth gwyntog gwen

Excuse me, I absolutely have had mackerel; it's my favourite fish!

AlikandIchor

Would love an elaboration on enshitificstion. I don’t notice a gap in not elaborating on technofuedalism but I’m pretty familiar with the concept and recognize you’ll probably want it to keep more of the audience that’s less familiar. Overall really enjoyable video with a message and two calls to action I appreciate. I agree on focusing in both parts of that as separate entities but I also find that call so very important I would hate to see people miss it. Wondering if there’s a way to load checkovs bullet tutorial with the messaging there As a theatrical scenic designer, seeing you talk about AutoCad and not mention VectorWorks is wild— it probably does not require its own elaboration because it’s like soooooo the same as AutoCAD EXCPET it has SO MANY RESTRICTIONS AND FAILSAFES IN THE PROGRAMING SO YOU CANT “STEAL” FROM THEM. VectorWorks offers a full educational license for free with proof of enrollment. The only difference is that anything you make on an educational license has watermarks all over the page and file. If a single dot or line is copied from an educational file into someone else’s full license file the watermark comes with it. It’s even worse if you pirate a copy. It doesn’t just watermark the work, your files become unopenable by someone with a professional license. So in the future going to share my work with my bosses after trying to save a 220 dollar monthly fee with a bootleg copy would make that work completely unusable like I never did it. And I was trapped into becoming extremely proficient with the program because of the educational license I’ve only got another calendar year left at this point.

AlikandIchor

Also can’t believe you dint mention the James Somerton plagerized hole pics but you’re a classier guy than me I supposed

NickyJ

I loved it ☺️ and if kat really needs a phone I have one I'm not using lol

Martyn

I don't think I saw this mentioned in the video (sorry if it was and I managed to miss it somehow). Years ago, I managed to get out of adobe's cancellation fee by changing the plan I was on, which cancelled the old contract for free and then set up a new one which had a 14 day refund period with no cancellation fee. This was in the UK and probably like 8 years ago now, so maybe things have changed, but I thought I'd share just in case it works still.

Martyn

Sorry if this is useless information. You can get "perpetual" license of substance painter and designer through Steam but I honestly don't know if it can be really be considered perpetual since there's a fear of Adobe deciding maybe one day to just take it off of Steam altogether. Something that also kind of sucks is that if you subscribe with them, you get so many adobe points a month to unlock materials in their libraries which can be a real time saver when working to a deadline, but of course you don't have access to this if you by the "perpetual" license (https://steamcommunity.com/app/3366290/discussions/0/594017365860084248/).

wirilome

Mostly shocked by the statement that horses are, in fact, real. Shame to see this channel bought out by Big Horse

meddytov

If you're still looking for feedback, I might suggest "Technofeudalism" at least could do better as it's own thing. You touch on it briefly to make your point (and it's obviously a well made point!) But, like any descent into madness, technofeudalism and the wider TESCREAL/technofascist scene has layers to it. You could maybe signpost towards a future video where you explore trchnofeudalism more fully? These aren't the most fully developed thoughts and doubtless someone else already said something similar, but I thought I'd add my two cents as technofeudalism is an area of interest for me academically.

Edie King

I'll echo someone else's comment and say that I think it would be worth trimming the fat by at least 10%-15%. We love to watch you rant! But this video doesn't quite justify its length the same as the Plagiarism one. However don't ditch it - repackage it as extra content for your second channel! I reckon everyone will go and watch that right after they finish the main video, lol Maybe replace some of the numerous examples of software with a brief overview of technofeudalism, because that's a rad as fuck term that isn't as well knows an "enshittification," which I'd argue everyone who's terminally online already knows.

Acinonyx

A very pedantic point, but at 20:43 “Gerstmann” is mispronounced “Gershmann”

Tristan Buckner

Just found the receipt in my email for ordering Clerks 2 on HD DVD from Netflix and then continuing to pay them a monthly subscription for the next 19 years.

Za

world's longest video essay

ab

ngl I like the older “nay” intro joke from the older Patron preview video better 😆

wirilome

I loved the bartender gag at 3hr. Gonna be hilarious when the effects etc are finished

Tyler Ramos

I never knew about the patreon IOS app thing so I’m glad I use the browser version by coincidence because I’m weird lmao

Trishtrash

Love the Starmer references now that he's resigned. If you can find the time to make a pay off for the 'I'll kill myself if he's resigned by the time this video comes out!' bit I think it would be very funny

Kinger

Oh so this a video I have to watch in chunks lmao The history deep dive into why my government is just puppets for monopolies just made me depressed

Jorge

Awesome! This video made me want to move to the forest and live off the land for about two and a half days until I miss watching your videos and a bear mauls me on the way back home.

LeahHacks

I've watched it a couple times now and took timestamped notes of some thoughts I had, for what they're worth. I really liked the video! It's very thorough. It was like I was so angry at capitalism then I'd see there's hours more video left somehow. Huge fan of the addition of puppetry, I love puppets. 27:50 - unclear what the gunshot was for 28:00 - the dubbing is a bit obvious, or the audio just feels off. 35:52 - it wasn't really a mistake in retrospect, it made sense at the time and became dated only later 37:54 - why do tech companies go to Montreal so much, did I miss it? 42:25 - reminds me of during the enshittification talk where Doctorow said the dream in tech used to be making your own successful company and now it's just to get bought by a bigger company 47:58 - could maybe be funny to reference the time it took to make the video when introducing the puppet? I don't know I'm not a comedian 56:14 - I don't get the Nixon joke? 1:35:50 - didn't software come with keys that could verify with a server, so you couldn't just make copies all the time? 1:47:12 - The UK price says it includes VAT, plus currency conversion costs, so this is slightly misleading. The point is valid, but in this comparison the actual markup is much smaller when you add it up and they're probably priced to be roughly the same in the UK vs US 1:50:13 - I feel like the start of Part 6 should have been spoken like usual? 2:01:24 - Possible worth a mention of Apple launching Creator Studio and potentially paywalling nicer new features to a subscription service version of Logic (and their other apps)? 2:11:27 - Presumably it's because the subscription could go up in price later, but with it going down in price and now being discontinued who knows lol. They don't even sell 3 year subscriptions anymore as far as I can tell 2:56:40 - I don't know if I'm missing something but this bit feels so strange and random 3:39:41 - Why the cut to the puppet?

Dylan

I'm gonna be honest, leftism needs to move away from being hyper nitpicky about language like this. You're not changing anything by arguing over what we call things and what words we're allowed to use in what cases, it's a monumental distraction from real issues. I have bipolar and I hear people using "bipolar" to mean stupid shit all the time. Is it mildly offensive to me? Yeah. But they don't know any better and I just accept that and move on with my life. That's just the world around us, we can't all be sensitive to everyone who has ever dealt with something hard at all times without driving ourselves insane. Occasionally someone is going to bring up something that you are personally sensitive to, and that is okay, you have to regulate your own feelings about that. Getting upset about the words we use is just keeping us from having more important conversations.

Joarsh

At least now I won't have to point people to that submersible documentary when I want to talk about splitfield diopters

George Washington

As a another bipolar person with psychotic tendencies, I second Theodora. This is idpol distraction shit that divides people. Find better things to be angry about. This type of policing ruins art and artistic license. Touch grass.

insertnameshow

@hbomb thx for diagnosing my printer, HP stole hours off my life trying to fix the fams printer. Are you planning on including monopoly in the YouTube title?

Timily the Fandom Menace

My god this draft is everything I could have hoped for. I don't have any constructive commentary because I'm still letting the initial viewing wash over me a bit and I'm feeling emotionally jazzed by it all (mainly with that ending and the promise of an open source-focused follow-up?), so all I really have to contribute is to say that I completely echo the feelings about working with open source software (and essentially learning how the sausage actually gets made). I'm a librarian who has been working with and helping support an open source software and it truly is a feeling of accomplishment to open up the code and understand *why* a thing works the way it does, to make the program actually work the way you want it to work, or to help another library work out how to do what they want to do. It also heightened my bullshit detector strength when I talk with our vendors, who are often trying to sell my library exorbitantly priced tools that do relatively simple things if you're willing to spend time grinding away at documentation. It sounds like such a thunderingly obvious, basic statement but the skills people build when they learn how to do things are a net good, actually? Very excited to watch the final version and hope this helps inspire more people to find and support oss (in addition to all the other call to action bits, of course).

George Washington

I’m interested why Final Cut Pro was never brought up as a viable alternative to Premiere, especially considering you can buy a license still. And they could be going down the same route of subscription only, seeing as they have brought in their new subscription options. I think this would’ve been interesting considering the monopoly comparisons of the two. Apple’s history of buying and killing/ruining creative software is also pretty disheartening. Could’ve been an interesting comparison.

Smooth Brain

It was not a coincidence that you dropped this on the same day my mom went in for double mastectomy that took four hours and eleven minutes. Thank you Mr. Hbomberguy for releasing this For Me.

FeetLoversPizza

Woah, can't believe Patreon didn't notify me of this. Love the video overall, but I do believe I have to agree with some of the other comments about the length. I love the history lessons in this video, but a lot of the stories share a lot of DNA and hit the same plot beats without a lot of diffentiation outside the details. I was expecting a payoff for the similar wording but it didn't really come. This was the first hours long hbomb video that started to feel it's length for me. I don't want to get bogged down in the negative stuff though. I love your writing as always. You have such a knack for simultaneously making me laugh as well as building up such dread in my soul with the way things are. And just when I'm feeling kinda hopeless about the world, you can tie it all together into a nice, actionable bow telling how we can make affect change. Also, join us all in the wonderful world of Linux. As you described the learning process of Blender and other apps, I felt a happiness in my soul. What you said is exactly what I've been feeling making the switch to Linux. It was scary swapping from Windows after all this time, yet it has been so worth it. TL;DR Has some redundancies, but still very much a worthwhile and enjoyable watch. Also, install Linux.

Diane Fox

2:56:40 is a reference to the video game the town with no name

Tim Mc

Cmon now Get a grip

Felix Graydon

It'd be great if in the animation of Adobe shooting all the competitors ~46:50 that the last one used the bullet animation you learned earlier. The slow wait for the last shot feels set up for it

Fredyguy12

This might be nit picky but I thought it was pronounced guhdot?

Liam Kendrick in the house!

Not even watched it yet, just wanted to join to give you cash as you deserve. What a treat there's a video as well. Double scoop of bovril tonight, you've earned it.

Nikt Ważny

3:30:32 this is NOT dubstep

Joe Schmoe

Dear Mr. Bomberguy: please, before you use a piece of internet slang you only barely understand, consider utilizing the free online dictionary Wiktionary (a sister project of Wikipedia)! Will help with understanding greatly. Moreover, it is not a for-profit unmoderated hellhole like Urban Dictionary. Sincerely, Joe

Kitt of the Weird Woods

So... wtf is happening at 10:05? Should I be concerned? I'm upset either way.

Florian Bodin

Hi, that's my first message here, having subscribed especially to watch the video. It's extremely well documented and put together, but I'd say not as fun to watch than the previous ones. I do think the format is too long, even if everything explained here is important and serves the general meaning of the video. I guess there's so much shit going on with these big tech companies for so long that you don't really have much of a choice. I knew about most of those things, especially all the flash player related things and the petiness of Jobs about it. He was a dick, and has always been a dick during his life. Even his biography aknowledges it. At least now, I expect a lot more people will see all of this as definitive proof he was a horrible human being. I don't think there's many problems with the video, it's great and it's visually a step above what you all did before. The only problem I have is personal, in the fact that it's really depressing to see how fucked up the whole system is. I think I've reached the end with all that. I find it really difficult, as a creative mind and someone who's always been passionate about art and what people expressed with it, to see what these big companies have done to it. It's depressing, and I can't stand it anymore. It took all the joy I had away. And this represents why I'm feeling like that. I know you tried to add some silver lining to that at the end, but I'm having difficulties to really think it balances things out. I hope you don't take this negatively, because it's a really good video, al always. But this one hit me more than before.

Rice G.

If this is your reaction to fans of a creator supplying gentle and explicitly asked for feedback in good faith, I think you need to log off for a little bit bud. Maybe go for a walk and have a snack.

Rice G.

The precision nuke of "faked their deathand become a wedding photographer" wiped me off the face of the earth. I know it was in the earlier preview but I fucking forgot and it hit me all over again.

Ryann Alaimo

I've left adobe probably 10 times since being forced to join it in my college. I luckily never had to pay the dumb fee because I would let the poor customer service staff know that they were going to be the reason a college student (later mom with two kids working as an illustrator) would starve to death. That I couldn't afford grocery's because of a subscription I don't need any more (it was true though without work i cant afford multiple adobe programs ).. they always "looked into it for me" than quickly canceled my subscriptions. Funny thing is the last time when i was finally done using adobe in 2024 they actually refunded me about $200.. I'm sure it's all AI now in the customer service so it's probably impossible to connect to a human, but i feel satisfied knowing i had adobe technically pay me to use their software.

Kylan Eoghan

I know I'm biased as a queer in a crafting industry but the cricut joke was very funny to me

Stephi Anne-with-an-E

I mean, they definitely were (and still are, when it comes to human writing) an underappreciated bit of punctuation. Less so in fanfiction communities, but even there because it's a beginner-friendly hobby and a lot of us were/are learning, using them correctly was still something to be proud of. The saddest thing is, because of AI appropriation, they're getting even less use by real people than they used to, because no one wants something they wrote to look like something nobody wrote. I still think using them correctly is awesome and I wish there was more of it, but now that they've got this negative association, that ship might have sailed. It sucks.

Taurmin

I wish the steve jobs tangent was its own video I could just link to instead of always having to justify why I think hes a bastard.

Kylan Eoghan

This video is incredibly long but at the same time very comprehensive and it feels like it all threads together pretty well. Maybe some aspects could be trimmed but at the same time it all feels like it nests together

Lucarbi

as a 3D artist I WAS in fact yelling Blender at the video… also as a 3D artist this is both depressing and validating

Erika Larsen

listen. bitching about software and the modern digital hellscape they call the internet is my PASSION so i am sat for this video!

Cenamor

I would prefer if this was a hidden youtube video

Kav

That was a pithy joke. I genuinely read it that way for about 20 seconds and was enormously confused.

Quitpayload

It's been more than a week and I've watched the video a couple of times already, so I should probably give my thoughts. I had reservations about the videos length when I first saw it, but I'm actually coming around on the runtime. I would love to hear you talk about enshittification and technofeudalism, but I think that might be pushing things with the videos pacing, and migh be better off being spun off into a separate video. I don't know if this is feasible, but a possible option would be to put out another preview video with those sections put in and then have a poll on what patrons think about having them in the final video, assuming you can still conduct polls with Patreon, I don't know if you can. I mentioned this the last time you posted a preview, but the first time you posted a preview of Adobe Must Die, there was a section where you talked about Youtubers and sponsorships that I found to be very interesting and enlightening. To be specific, it's the sections from 17:26 - 19:27, in the preview video that you uploaded on August 12, 2025. I think that it would be a mistake to not include that in the final video. You kind of talk about the same topic in this video, but you do it in a much less interesting way IMO. Basically, you got it right the first time and I think that you should just use that footage. The only good reason I can think for why you removed it is maybe for pacing reasons. As good as this video is, I really don't think that it feels like it should have taken almost 3 years to make. I've talked about this is previous threads, but I'll bring it up again here. I think that the video is slightly worse than it would have been if you had just filmed it in England without any of the skits. The audio is not great in basically all of the sections where you filmed on location, and as you yourself annoyingly pointed out, even the lighting was poorly set up in certain shots. It's frustrating to know that the video could have come up way sooner. Like, maybe even a year earlier if you had just filmed in England. Kat made a comment on a thread in the subreddit that filming in Turmecula actually didn't take that long and wasn't that big of reason for the delay, but still. Presumably you've moved to America for more than just this video, but so far, your moving to America has not payed off in terms of video quality. Maybe my opinion will change about this when you release future videos, but so far the America trip seems like it was a waste of time. Just because I think it's funny, in an earlier updare you said that: "there's a couple of gaps throughout the video where some stuff I'm going to film all at once will go, and I've put those off until the end because they're a bit messy and I want to make sure I get everything planned all at once so I don't have to cover my garage in slop a second time." Well, after watching the video, I'm pretty sure I know which scenes you're referring to here, lol. Also, don't forget to put the link in the description for the Brain Mind Residency. Bye.

Ronald

Stop editing things like this out, if it lands it lands, if it comes off as rude it comes off as rude, that's how people learn naturally. Don't let the audience dictate the delivery, that's how good productions die. Plagiarism and YouTube: 41:10

Wes Rambo

At 3:33:40 I had to rewind and listen again because it sounded like "the ceo of Adobe AfterBruce" as if "AfterBruce" is some kind of Adobe product

sylvia

Just wanted to add as a 2D illustrator, the platform I use for my work is Krita. Krita is fucking fabulous, its open source, extremely powerful, has a metric ton of features is completely free, AND you can 2d animate in it!

J

So I actually have a set of lectures in my design course on the Juicero. As a heads up, the Ouya and Juicero were designed by the same design firm, which you might already know and may be why you used it as an example. I’ll also put out there that the engineering team behind the Juicero had a MUCH larger problem than the business team did. In my opinion, those engineering decisions contributed to the product’s failure much more aggressively than the Bloomberg “squeeze the bag by hand” story alone.

thehaakun

Wow!! The Dark Souls mousepad was made by my friend and I was so delighted to see it in this video. I'm glad you have it!! I was so surprised to see it. Some things I did enjoy: I like the explosions, I think they're pretty funny and maybe I'm just childish for thinking so but I enjoy the explosions and explosion sound effects and even silent explosions. I also quite enjoyed the different comparisons of 'alternatives' when it comes to subscription models - I'm an artist myself and I was familiar with most of the subscription products (ie. Autodesk/Zbrush, etc.) but I was surprised to see mentions of Autodesk's token policy and Zbrush's acquisition and subsequent subscription model. It's quite poignant in pointing out how strongly artists of today are so strangled by modern subscription services and how artist livelihoods are so radically dependent on these few companies holding us hostage. I appreciated this section a good deal. I also enjoyed seeing the comparisons to auto companies and other Silicon Valley failed startups - I've heard of most/all of these before but it really goes to show in a holistic fashion just how much of modern society really is deeply embedded in subscription culture and just how dire it is. It's a bit depressing but I think quite necessary. Minor criticisms; I think the Bork section was very educational definitely highlighted many of Bork's policies and subsequent fallout resulting from his ideologies but it felt like there was a mild repetitiveness of his anti antitrust sentiments? It just felt a bit repeated. Nothing completely detracting but it did make the Bork section feel a bit longer than needed.

Kav

Aye, there were two particularly long sections called out in a reply and, while I can see the point, at least the "this company is evil too" section, I think, needs to have a lot of examples to support the conclusion that Harry doesn't feel that he can recommend any commercial alternative to the current top dogs. ...the Bork section I'd keep as is, not for any rational reason but simply because shortening it might risk losing one of the Muppet Bork visuals and they're just too good.

Kat

Who's your friend?? I got it at a con and I totally forgot who I bought it from!

Kat

I'm sorry! People love to leak unlisted video leaks and we knew people would do that a ton for this one because of the long build up. We'll do unlisted links again for smaller projects and Patreon content!

unmoved dachshund

i'm still/also getting a lot out of this upon rewatch. great stuff. can't wait to see/hear it with music, that's just gonna cement it.

Kav

A few questions. Am I missing a way for Harry to learn whether the joke lands or comes off as rude when it goes public other than reading the comments? If not, the point being to learn naturally what comes off as rude, am I missing a point to that learning other than him not making jokes on the same subject in future videos as a result of comments on the video? If not, what's the difference between learning that jokes on the subject come off as rude as a result of comments on this video and therefore not making a joke on the same subject in the public version (which will be considerably different to this one whether anyone suggests anything be cut or not) and future videos... ...and learning that it comes off as rude as a result of the comments on the edited public version of this video and therefore not making jokes on the same subject in future videos? You are aware, given that its stated under the video, that Harry posted this video is as a rough draft, the entire purpose of which is to get a range of opinions from a relatively small group of people whom he can be relatively sure will speak in good faith and then to make changes, at his discretion, based on those opinions, that being the point of rough drafts? Based on what Kat said, doesn't this seem like a perfect example of why a Patreon rough draft is a good idea since they already weren't sure about the joke and only went with it based on the reactions of people who share a niche interest that most people watching the video won't? Do you genuinely, hand on heart, think that releasing a 4-5 hr video for which you wrote the entire script as well as any rewrites, having removed several chunks a couple of seconds of which was suggested to be removed by someone else is comparable to sitting and reading an entire script someone else wrote? Finally, you know multiple drafts with multiple pairs of eyes on them and changes made based on feedback are basically always a thing any time it's important that what you're writing/recording is really good, be it a novel, an academic article, a technical report for work or a video that's taken likely a year to make?

Anabelle!

good video! patreon's built-in player is being annoying, if you are able to upload future videos to YouTube as unlisted, I have a preference for that instead

Donald James Gibson

Hey! You were able to hire Alan, from CD! He's a great guy... Not much of an assistant, but he tries! Come to think of it, he sure does look a lot like Cap Disillusion

Anya

Okay I'm about 3hr 40min in and I think the most interesting angle here is the adobe/apple history and the question "what happened to flash". The segment going through all of the modern hardware subscription stuff feels a bit overly long and could be its own spinoff? It pulls us too far out of the interesting story being told about monopolies and the arc of software acquisitions. The pettiness of steve jobs also tying it all together at this point and the point being made about the only thing that can fight the power of massive trillion dollar corporations is other massive trillion dollar corporations is fantastic and feels like the culmination of the whole thing. Maybe it's just the internet history nerd in me, but yea I think Flash as the main thread for telling the story (keeping all the monopoly law history stuff, that's super fun) is the most compelling. Lot of really good stuff in here. Oh also, what the hell are you talking about with breaking into ikea furniture? is that a fortnite thing? am I old?

Anya

man centering this around flash even more would be so sick

Anya

"I'm an atheist" "the ultimate kind of protestant" is an all-timer

Jim Jansen

Wanted to weigh in on the part about cars: Volvo actually seriously offers their cars as a subscription. Might be other brands that do it as well. Fantastic to finally see this video. Exceptional work! I've been waiting for it for months and signed up here to be able to see it, because I heard it dropped here on the FPS podcast where Lucy mentioned it.

ThatsANiceHat

Factor... is HelloFresh. Just more misleading enshittification.

Artur Lulai Ferreira

I'm all for killing Adobe and everyone else involved. But, why do these other companies, that are successful, keep selling themselves to Adobe?

Calysto

really enjoyed this one! the end bit also really reminded me of littlesimsies efforts to stop EA from being bought. just everyone fighting battles. this also made me really scared to check what sony vegas movie studio has been up to - which was my first editing program after windows movie maker. i really enjoyed the pacing though on rewatch i think the beginning of the apple section holds my attention the least. not sure what it is it might be just a good stopping point time wise for me. im also really glad you end it on a hopeful note. i listened to this on a long drive and stopped basically before the ending and it felt like all despair until i managed to watch the end. great work from the whole team!

Quitpayload

It's not a big deal, but I just wanted to point out that the real reason Monopoly the game is agonizing to play is because most people don't play it by the actual rules. For example, officially, nothing happens when a player lands on the Free Parking space. The whole point of the game is that there's a finite amount of money to play with, so constantly renewing the game with more money doesn't make sense. Like, fifteen years ago I tried playing Monopoly with my best friend and ended up getting very frustrated with him because every time either of us landed on an unowned property he would insist that we put it up for auction. He insisted that those were the rules of the game, which I denied, and we both ended up ginving up and not finishing the game. I found out years later that he was actually correct. It is a rule that if no one wants to buy a property, then an auction must be held.

Jason Lillo

Thank you so much for all your effort and putting the time to do proper research. Can’t wait to see what the final product will look like.

PessimisticPete

Okay, it took me a week to watch the whole thing. It's got the quality, pacing, and pathos that I've always loved from you, Hbomb. That said, I'll encourage you and your team to take the advice I heard from the Sherlock video years ago and cut 10–15% of this thing's runtime. The Plagiarism video before it ran up against feeling tediously episodic and avoided that by virtue of it being really entertaining to watch you dunk on a bunch of shitheads. In this case, I feel there are a lot of discrete cases that could be consolidated (Affinity and Celsys come to mind). The research and points made are stellar and land close to home as a freelance designer struggling to wrench free from Adobe. However killing a few of your darlings could really help tighten everything up. Also The Town With No Name reference took me out.

PessimisticPete

Also also making the Newgrounds video public would make for a really good supplemental to this for the wider audience.

Kate

The most recent After effects is literally unusable too. It's so laggy it's impossible to see whether animations are working or not, I can only use an older version

llnnsensuppe

du bist wirklich überall omd

Rice G.

Okay now being done with the video, i love it and im gonna go download blender right now

yanni libbes

you say you'll do unlisted video links again for exclusive content we pay for in the same sentence you say people love to leak unlisted video leaks? wow, that's not making me feel buyer's remorse for paying for exclusive patreon content at all! I love watching a video the length of 2 Godfathers on a terrible platform!

Natalie Greenhill

I’m a professional 3d artist and we are still crying and pulling out our hair.

Djinigami

Ngl thats a crazy thing to put on the speakers while trying to conceive

Matt Babineau

Anyone else already on their 3rd watch?

Nicholas Hartman

I sympathise with your predicament, but sorry after watching this video - how our society is so effed up - you're worried he used a word wrong? This is why we keep losing!

Theodora

I would say explaining the concepts of enshittification and technofeudalism a bit more would probably help a wider audience understand what you are talking about. I’m sure you’ll figure out the other issues. It seems very close to done and I can’t wait for the finished product! Love the muppets 😁

Logan Briggs

My only qualm is that the video of the Cybertruck exploding is (I believe) also a video of someone inside the truck dying. I understand how it might be a poignant addition to the commentary at the moment, but I worry that an actual death on screen might be a bit excessive to some people.

Frankie Mach

It probably bothers me more than other since my hearing is pretty sensitive and I use earbuds, but the "Adobe devouring Macromedia" sound clip around 1:18:00 seems crazy loud compared to the rest of the video and always ends up hurting my ears. Otherwise I really like the video overall and I'm excited to see the final product!

CloudieDay

The jump cut where Eric immediately turns into a skeleton and dies is probably the hardest I’ve laughed all year XD

Lady Sylver

I think its important to express different opinions, and I dont think it has anything to do with being "soft".

mortal kab

Best video to listen to on a 12 hours drive

Orkenspalter TV

There's a massive Star Trek Joke somewhere in there, I'm sure.

Alan Ball

It's Alan the intern!

Robert Stockton

Hey Harry, Great video. For context, I recently finished my PhD on corporate capitalism and the 20th century. Bork is a great figure to focus the video around, but I think that section might serve to make the Chicago School's intervention more historically novel than it actually was. The Chicago School only served to formalise (and academically sanction) antitrust arguments that had circulated in the US since the mid 19th century. Economists, lawyers, and monopoly capitalists themselves had long held that economies of scale made monopolies 'natural' and inevitable, and that competition itself could breed monopoly. So maybe I'd frame this less as Bork and the Chicago school inventing the argument for concentration and more as being extraordinarily savvy in codifying the argument and giving it a veneer of economic logic sanctioned by its origin in the academy rather than the legal profession per se. Still love the way you trash him though. Fuck that guy. If you have any other questions on the development of US corporate capitalism in the period, do give me a shout.

catgirl942

On the off chance that no one has said this already, at 3:16:22 one of the patreon payment methods that gets poofed is not right. It should be "per creation" and "first of the month". Keep up the great work, team!

bits.of.coffee

Something that you address is also called "Shadow IT" or "Shadow Service" in other enterprises. (Know that because I work in one as Information Security Consultant) This is basically someone with a company credit card who will buy a service, expects their IT department to maintain it or worse: Hide this tiny monthly expense and sorta works its way through the companies gut. This is the same costly technical debt which causes a lot of the hiring freezes at least as a front. It's easy for companies to show up to an audit, show the vast amount of credit card statements and they kinda shrug in front of unions and say: "See, see, we do have a lot of expenses. And it's those labour costs as we need ALL OF THE SERVICES OR ELSE WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE." This is always a great way to keep shareholders on board. Another thing: You also talked about the canning of Harmony and Adobe Animate. Just a thought. What if this conglomerate was initially a ploy to force users into a GenAI creator? Adobe sells GenAI stock material now. They had a major PR failure after changing their Terms of Use in the most weirdest way concerning training on cloud data and the animation genre has had their roots stolen by LLM training en masse. They quickly backpaddled after a week of very loud outcry. If you're interested: https://www.trustlab.com/post/lessons-from-adobes-updated-terms-of-use-controversy Oh and if you become a Linux guy in two years, I want to beat you to it. Let's do it a bet and whoever switches first fully to Linux can force the other into making a video on how to either be a corporate Windows shill or how to migrate from Windows to a Linux distro.

Kavi Corben

Specifically replying to Alex - That DOES feel like something hbomb would, sincerely, write into his script though. I feel this was not the best example to your point, which while I disagree with generally, I understand your meaning. Personally, I would think that we can address the ways companies lose touch with reality without reinforcing the link to *people* who have lost touch with reality either long- or short-term due to mental illness. Companies, by default, don't play ball with reality, specifically in a way that actively reshapes reality to their goals and profit incentives.He's used bonkers before and while that one might be touchy depending on personal experiences it probably wouldn't have set off OP or anyone else in this thread in this specific discomfort. There's also "absurd", which is quite colorful and descriptive. Other words have also been proposed.

spiralguide

3:58:33 reference to starmer needs updating (EDIT: got to 4:13:21 hahaha) 4:27:39 maybe intentional but 'clerks' is pronounced 'clarks', unless you're pronouncing it that way for americans this was a really impressive summary. also very rousing. it really made me think about what the actual solution to this is. at a very basic level, is the answer just 'the government should represent the interests of the people more'? signposting to groups like eff seems like just about the best way you could support that. great use of your platform as always

William Jones

2:45:39 — you say "...obviously all those people wanted to pay for online classes..."

AlexandrosSeabeard

The tangents spiraled inward until I forgot where I was. Bravo.

Ian MacDonald

I've watched that video so much I'm constantly prostulating.

Cora

It took me a while but I just finished the video and I genuinely love it. Mostly because of my own parasocial relationship with the youtube guy who has been talking me to sleep in multi-hour videos for the last [redacted] years. I deeply enjoyed the last 10 minutes. I love the interspersed mediocre effects and purposely low-seeming production value juxtaposed with stuff that clearly took so much time and effort. I love seeing that you are having fun making things again. I also think it is too long. I don't necessarily think that there are too many examples of things being bad, I actually think those sections flow quite well. But I do think the last initial preview you posted with just the stuff about the tutorial has ballooned unnecessarily for this version, so maybe check for stuff to cut there. I thought the previous version was way tighter and, like Carlos Maza says in his latest video on essay creep, not every bad faith argument requires a giant preamble. Having said all of this, I defintiely think sections on enshittification and technofeudalism could enhance people's understanding of the topic. But that could also be a different video, I don't think this one lacks too much without those sections. Either way, looking forward to the 6.5 hour cut next Christmas. Thanks Harry and Kat, you did a fantastic job here!

Ethan Tucker

This is a great video! I think it is slightly overwhelming at times, with the length and topics covered being so expensive, I kind of got lost and fatigued at a few points. Like the last few videos had very solid structure with twists in the narrative that made them digestible. Imo this was a bit difficult to keep track of all the threads because it was a straight shot of information. But I think all of the information was very clear and well presented. As someone who has tried leaving adobe for alternatives like Affinity, DaVinci, Clip Studio, and Blender, I really resonated with this. And I love how you used Adobe as a frame for the larger issues with monopolies and the failures of the free market. But it may finally be the Hbomb video that can't be comfortable watched/listened to in one sitting, it becomes an overload of (very good) information

AdamOnHook

I believe Vegas got bought by MAGIX and is still officially available to buy a fully owned copy. They did not turn into Adobe lmao

RebeccaC

I agree with some of the other comments that the software section felt a bit long

Calysto

small miracles 🙌 hopefully it stays that way

Markus Castro

25:47 somehow I believed the final video would turn into a 2 hour tutorial/BTS about shooting stuff on location... Instead it's capitalism again 😢

¡Franco Omar López López!

i honestly thought the video was really great! i def second on maybe altering the cricut joke, but personally did NOT read it the way other people in these comments interpreted it, i just thought it was an in joke. i also don't mind the ranting at all, i feel like the only thing that bothers me is that you're like 50% as mad as you could be but other than that pretty good! 2/10

Marco Wahl

Factor belongs to hello fresh..but i guess thats the Joke?

Rose Mulet

An hour and a half in and the frustration I felt about being forced into a monthly recurring subscription service to watch this video has been seemingly addressed (without the self awareness to point that out) EDIT: 3 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES IN AND YOU’LL NEVER GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!

Saskia Lange

I still have not been able to get a coherent answer to the question: If the goal of the capitalist is to get as much money as possible, and the best way to get the most money is by monopoly, and a monopoly that extracts as much money as possible from the consumer and worker, making themselves inextricable from public infrastructure and living, how exactly is the free market going to rise and "balance" this, without outward intervention? Competition is not good for making the largest profit. How does "balance" rise from the goal to make money? On top of that, the consumer is the worker. Even fucking Henry Ford knew that. Sidenote 1. It's funny how the UK used to have a selection of free/very cheap "standard frames". Most of those designs are now insanely expensive. Sidenote 2. Ahhhh... That explains why photoshop, indesign and illustrator all use subtly different short commandos and vector handling, to the point where switching between them makes you feel like you're losing your mind.

Alienea

Hi Hbomberguy, I know this comment is late but I’ve been thinking about it a lot. As you yourself mentioned during the man in cave section of Plagarism and YouTube, people get weird about Israel. I’m not, of course, denying that horrible things are happening — but I think it’s worth flashing other headlines to make it clear that all over the world people are being paid to paper over various country’s crimes. I’ve included sources of Russia’s social media campaigns, the UAE’s social media campaigns (especially ones covering up how horrible conditions are in Dubai), and a link that while less related also talks about similar in the United States, where they’ve decided this isn’t even worth paying actual people to do. People being paid to hide a country’s crimes just isn’t unique and I think it’s harmful to suggest it is. 1. https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR4373z2.html 2. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-launches-influencer-academy-whitewash-countrys-reputation https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-war-uae-tourists-expats-influencers-detained-social-media-posts/ 3. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/ai-deepfakes-blur-reality-2026-us-midterm-campaigns-2026-03-28/

Lucy

when the amicus brief is first mentioned around 3:51:00, we believe it would be helpful to have a little note on screen explaining what an amicus brief is, especially since it comes up again later.

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2026-09-15 15:00 gosh this is SO exciting. here's way too much feedback! I hope your wrist is feeling better mate. POSITIVE FEEDBACK: the section about the Brainmind Residency at 06:46 is more exciting this time! I really like it and I want to learn more! LOVE the inclusion of the "it doesnt have to be this way" segment from 08:32 - 08:44. it's SO useful to begin to reframe this as a problem we can DO something about. little segments like this are going to have a huge impact on the way people think about this problem, as well as similar political issues appreciate the inclusion, at 09:48, of an explanation of what Andrew Kramer does! [as well as, later at 22:33, the introduction of Pedro Flores! These are super helpful] i think this explanation at 10:58 saying, "the best way to find out, in 2008..." is a really helpful framing device for people too young or too offline at the time to know what the internet was like. the explanation at 14:08 of how insidious the “partnership” thing is, is so straightforward and easy to understand for anyone who’s like. Been on the internet in the last few years. Your point immediately clicks here. Just your framing technique here is fantastic. So easy to follow and understand. Also, this isn’t new to this version, but thank you for explaining the “paid-influencer” thing in the html. You have now taught me how to notice that for myself. Thank you! The James Somerton joke at 18:29 was fucking hilarious and had me laughing Out Loud for several minutes the “get it girl” section from 20:59 – 21:50 feels right in some way, to express some solidarity with the filmriot guys. Ryan is not the enemy just because he took some paid sponsorships. You once again bring a level of nuance and focus to the conversation that I really appreciate. LOVE the inclusion of the 24:44 – 25:11 section where you get passionate about the CGI. These sections always really elevate your videos and you’re so correct oh my GOD the new green screen reveal SLAPS. Its perfect the “free market” section from 46:18 – 46:58 is a brilliant explanation of some economic basics that was much needed to make this whole discussion clearer the addition, at 01:12:23 of the brackets clarifying what the “high” thing means is very helpful, thank you 01:30:58 “who’d you kill this time”, laugh track, credits is hilarious the “yeah” at 01:31:40 marks your video technically passing the Bechdale test, if you wanna throw in a joke about that 01:47:18 “what did the English do to deserve this? Oh right yeah” is also hilarious this witty segment from 02:01:18 – 02:01:37 is great and brings a nice breath of fresh air back to this part of the video, which is quite complicated this is also very funny, “only big companies are allowed to do crimes” at 02:04:16. it really feels like this part of the video is picking back up some steam and energy! The very quick joke about this anecdote not being very good, at 02:05:29, is absolutely hilarious The joke here at 02:06:28 also made me laugh out loud. Youre insane I love it I’m always happy when you share work from other video essayists, like at 02:11:13. a single comment from you about their work is more meaningful to me than the algorithm’s suggestions on what I should watch this explanation at 02:32:11 is brilliant and clarifies this stupid problem so clearly for those of us who haven’t thought about it for more than a few seconds wow. Cant stop thinking about the toddler in the stolen car. Really powerful example. 02:56:20 – 02:56:54 is brilliant weird dry humour. Love it “which we all know is worse” at 03:33:16 is hilarious! The section from 03:39:13 to 03:39:22 is VERY well put. “the ultimate kind of protestant” at 03:40:37 makes me laugh every time this bit feels GREAT at 03:53:01 this is such an exciting sentence, from 03:57:39 – 03:57:45. this hopeful energy is brilliant 04:05:53 insert Onceler joke I went, out loud, “ooo” at 04:11:19. that is VERY interesting. Im going to become involved in this stuff now thanks to you. This is my favourite segment of the video, and I am very grateful to you for making it. 04:17:35 I have indeed been yelling “blender” at the screen, thank u for acknowledging – and thank you for sharing so many cool blender youtubers!! love the ending. Thank you for this whole video. Saluting the screen at 04:28:08 NEGATIVE FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS: the music from 04:43 - 04:51 feels way out of place. The silence was better imo the Davy Jones joke at 13:41 – this isn’t necessarily a bad thing but I think you’ve made this joke before in a different video at 21:10 there’s a visual glitch, not sure if that’s deliberate 27:25 I cannot believe u cut “can you eat?” I loved that bit the illuminautii thing at 56:15 made me cringe so hard. I hope you leave it in but jesus fucking christ at 01:05:02 you bring up watergate and I have to admit, hoping I’m not the only one, I have no idea what actually happened in the watergate scandal. I don’t have that much knowledge about old american politics. You might need to do a quick rundown on what, like, the burglaries were? and why the president was being investigated the audio from 01:12:21 – 01:12:28 has a high-pitched whine in the background that is VERY painful to listen to, please please please filter this out this might just be me but I have no idea what youre talking about w.r.t. the shadows at 01:38:48? this is the biggest flaw of the video in my opinion: from 01:36:01 to 02:04:20 the video is kind of depressing, and it kind of makes me want to turn the video off. There are loads of good jokes and interesting visuals, but the *tone* is depressing enough for a viewer (especially if they’ve been watching for 90 minutes straight so far) to fall asleep a little bit. Maybe it’s just that when you get to the section about Adobe hiking up prices into infinity, plus the cancellation fee thing, the viewer kind of gets gripped with a kind of depressed hopeless feeling, which doesn’t get *fully* dispelled until your brilliant conclusion. We’re so numb to this kind of dystopian bullshit that, at least for me, I can feel myself turning off and wanting to think about something else. I feel like this slower tone lasts a solid half an hour, and it would be a real shame for people to drop off before reaching the 2h mark, because the video past that gets really interesting! I’m sorry to present you with a problem without a clear solution, but I think it’s really worth looking into. at 01:48:26 you say “3840” while showing a number that says “3830” I hate this bit, at 01:59:23. Even though that’s not really her real face, it just sounds like you’re insulting her appearance and you come off really unpleasant and nasty. I’m sure there’s another way you can phrase this critique? I think a lot of people don’t realise their local library has a printer. You could suggest as much at 02:31:16 I think this would benefit from having the chainsaw sound effect, as used at the start of the video, at timestamp 02:46:26 at 03:29:01 you cut to footage of Steve Wozniak and as someone who’s not good with faces, I was very confused for a while thinking this was still Steve Jobs. Might be helpful to put an arrow pointing to him going “Steve Wozniak” for fools like me, at either 03:29:01 or 03:29:08 when you say his name. 03:58:37 ew! TLDR: thank you for creating this. this version is incredibly informative and inspiring, with only a mild lull around 01:36:00 - 02:04:00.
2026-08-23 18:24 gosh this is SO exciting. here's way too much feedback! I hope your wrist is feeling better mate. POSITIVE FEEDBACK: the section about the Brainmind Residency at 06:46 is more exciting this time! I really like it and I want to learn more! LOVE the inclusion of the "it doesnt have to be this way" segment from 08:32 - 08:44. it's SO useful to begin to reframe this as a problem we can DO something about. little segments like this are going to have a huge impact on the way people think about this problem, as well as similar political issues appreciate the inclusion, at 09:48, of an explanation of what Andrew Kramer does! [as well as, later at 22:33, the introduction of Pedro Flores! These are super helpful] i think this explanation at 10:58 saying, "the best way to find out, in 2008..." is a really helpful framing device for people too young or too offline at the time to know what the internet was like. the explanation at 14:08 of how insidious the “partnership” thing is, is so straightforward and easy to understand for anyone who’s like. Been on the internet in the last few years. Your point immediately clicks here. Just your framing technique here is fantastic. So easy to follow and understand. Also, this isn’t new to this version, but thank you for explaining the “paid-influencer” thing in the html. You have now taught me how to notice that for myself. Thank you! The James Somerton joke at 18:29 was fucking hilarious and had me laughing Out Loud for several minutes the “get it girl” section from 20:59 – 21:50 feels right in some way, to express some solidarity with the filmriot guys. Ryan is not the enemy just because he took some paid sponsorships. You once again bring a level of nuance and focus to the conversation that I really appreciate. LOVE the inclusion of the 24:44 – 25:11 section where you get passionate about the CGI. These sections always really elevate your videos and you’re so correct oh my GOD the new green screen reveal SLAPS. Its perfect the “free market” section from 46:18 – 46:58 is a brilliant explanation of some economic basics that was much needed to make this whole discussion clearer the addition, at 01:12:23 of the brackets clarifying what the “high” thing means is very helpful, thank you 01:30:58 “who’d you kill this time”, laugh track, credits is hilarious the “yeah” at 01:31:40 marks your video technically passing the Bechdale test, if you wanna throw in a joke about that [Edit: no it doesn't, idk what I was thinking, ignore that] 01:47:18 “what did the English do to deserve this? Oh right yeah” is also hilarious this witty segment from 02:01:18 – 02:01:37 is great and brings a nice breath of fresh air back to this part of the video, which is quite complicated this is also very funny, “only big companies are allowed to do crimes” at 02:04:16. it really feels like this part of the video is picking back up some steam and energy! The very quick joke about this anecdote not being very good, at 02:05:29, is absolutely hilarious The joke here at 02:06:28 also made me laugh out loud. Youre insane I love it I’m always happy when you share work from other video essayists, like at 02:11:13. a single comment from you about their work is more meaningful to me than the algorithm’s suggestions on what I should watch this explanation at 02:32:11 is brilliant and clarifies this stupid problem so clearly for those of us who haven’t thought about it for more than a few seconds wow. Cant stop thinking about the toddler in the stolen car. Really powerful example. 02:56:20 – 02:56:54 is brilliant weird dry humour. Love it “which we all know is worse” at 03:33:16 is hilarious! The section from 03:39:13 to 03:39:22 is VERY well put. “the ultimate kind of protestant” at 03:40:37 makes me laugh every time this bit feels GREAT at 03:53:01 this is such an exciting sentence, from 03:57:39 – 03:57:45. this hopeful energy is brilliant 04:05:53 insert Onceler joke I went, out loud, “ooo” at 04:11:19. that is VERY interesting. Im going to become involved in this stuff now thanks to you. This is my favourite segment of the video, and I am very grateful to you for making it. 04:17:35 I have indeed been yelling “blender” at the screen, thank u for acknowledging – and thank you for sharing so many cool blender youtubers!! love the ending. Thank you for this whole video. Saluting the screen at 04:28:08 NEGATIVE FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS: the music from 04:43 - 04:51 feels way out of place. The silence was better imo the Davy Jones joke at 13:41 – this isn’t necessarily a bad thing but I think you’ve made this joke before in a different video at 21:10 there’s a visual glitch, not sure if that’s deliberate 27:25 I cannot believe u cut “can you eat?” I loved that bit the illuminautii thing at 56:15 made me cringe so hard. I hope you leave it in but jesus fucking christ at 01:05:02 you bring up watergate and I have to admit, hoping I’m not the only one, I have no idea what actually happened in the watergate scandal. I don’t have that much knowledge about old american politics. You might need to do a quick rundown on what, like, the burglaries were? and why the president was being investigated the audio from 01:12:21 – 01:12:28 has a high-pitched whine in the background that is VERY painful to listen to, please please please filter this out this might just be me but I have no idea what youre talking about w.r.t. the shadows at 01:38:48? this is the biggest flaw of the video in my opinion: from 01:36:01 to 02:04:20 the video is kind of depressing, and it kind of makes me want to turn the video off. There are loads of good jokes and interesting visuals, but the *tone* is depressing enough for a viewer (especially if they’ve been watching for 90 minutes straight so far) to fall asleep a little bit. Maybe it’s just that when you get to the section about Adobe hiking up prices into infinity, plus the cancellation fee thing, the viewer kind of gets gripped with a kind of depressed hopeless feeling, which doesn’t get *fully* dispelled until your brilliant conclusion. We’re so numb to this kind of dystopian bullshit that, at least for me, I can feel myself turning off and wanting to think about something else. I feel like this slower tone lasts a solid half an hour, and it would be a real shame for people to drop off before reaching the 2h mark, because the video past that gets really interesting! I’m sorry to present you with a problem without a clear solution, but I think it’s really worth looking into. at 01:48:26 you say “3840” while showing a number that says “3830” I hate this bit, at 01:59:23. Even though that’s not really her real face, it just sounds like you’re insulting her appearance and you come off really unpleasant and nasty. I’m sure there’s another way you can phrase this critique? I think a lot of people don’t realise their local library has a printer. You could suggest as much at 02:31:16 I think this would benefit from having the chainsaw sound effect, as used at the start of the video, at timestamp 02:46:26 at 03:29:01 you cut to footage of Steve Wozniak and as someone who’s not good with faces, I was very confused for a while thinking this was still Steve Jobs. Might be helpful to put an arrow pointing to him going “Steve Wozniak” for fools like me, at either 03:29:01 or 03:29:08 when you say his name. 03:58:37 ew! TLDR: thank you for creating this. this version is incredibly informative and inspiring, with only a mild lull around 01:36:00 - 02:04:00.

gosh this is SO exciting. here's way too much feedback! I hope your wrist is feeling better mate. POSITIVE FEEDBACK: the section about the Brainmind Residency at 06:46 is more exciting this time! I really like it and I want to learn more! LOVE the inclusion of the "it doesnt have to be this way" segment from 08:32 - 08:44. it's SO useful to begin to reframe this as a problem we can DO something about. little segments like this are going to have a huge impact on the way people think about this problem, as well as similar political issues appreciate the inclusion, at 09:48, of an explanation of what Andrew Kramer does! [as well as, later at 22:33, the introduction of Pedro Flores! These are super helpful] i think this explanation at 10:58 saying, "the best way to find out, in 2008..." is a really helpful framing device for people too young or too offline at the time to know what the internet was like. the explanation at 14:08 of how insidious the “partnership” thing is, is so straightforward and easy to understand for anyone who’s like. Been on the internet in the last few years. Your point immediately clicks here. Just your framing technique here is fantastic. So easy to follow and understand. Also, this isn’t new to this version, but thank you for explaining the “paid-influencer” thing in the html. You have now taught me how to notice that for myself. Thank you! The James Somerton joke at 18:29 was fucking hilarious and had me laughing Out Loud for several minutes the “get it girl” section from 20:59 – 21:50 feels right in some way, to express some solidarity with the filmriot guys. Ryan is not the enemy just because he took some paid sponsorships. You once again bring a level of nuance and focus to the conversation that I really appreciate. LOVE the inclusion of the 24:44 – 25:11 section where you get passionate about the CGI. These sections always really elevate your videos and you’re so correct oh my GOD the new green screen reveal SLAPS. Its perfect the “free market” section from 46:18 – 46:58 is a brilliant explanation of some economic basics that was much needed to make this whole discussion clearer the addition, at 01:12:23 of the brackets clarifying what the “high” thing means is very helpful, thank you 01:30:58 “who’d you kill this time”, laugh track, credits is hilarious the “yeah” at 01:31:40 marks your video technically passing the Bechdale test, if you wanna throw in a joke about that [Edit: no it doesn't, idk what I was thinking, ignore that] 01:47:18 “what did the English do to deserve this? Oh right yeah” is also hilarious this witty segment from 02:01:18 – 02:01:37 is great and brings a nice breath of fresh air back to this part of the video, which is quite complicated this is also very funny, “only big companies are allowed to do crimes” at 02:04:16. it really feels like this part of the video is picking back up some steam and energy! The very quick joke about this anecdote not being very good, at 02:05:29, is absolutely hilarious The joke here at 02:06:28 also made me laugh out loud. Youre insane I love it I’m always happy when you share work from other video essayists, like at 02:11:13. a single comment from you about their work is more meaningful to me than the algorithm’s suggestions on what I should watch this explanation at 02:32:11 is brilliant and clarifies this stupid problem so clearly for those of us who haven’t thought about it for more than a few seconds wow. Cant stop thinking about the toddler in the stolen car. Really powerful example. 02:56:20 – 02:56:54 is brilliant weird dry humour. Love it “which we all know is worse” at 03:33:16 is hilarious! The section from 03:39:13 to 03:39:22 is VERY well put. “the ultimate kind of protestant” at 03:40:37 makes me laugh every time this bit feels GREAT at 03:53:01 this is such an exciting sentence, from 03:57:39 – 03:57:45. this hopeful energy is brilliant 04:05:53 insert Onceler joke I went, out loud, “ooo” at 04:11:19. that is VERY interesting. Im going to become involved in this stuff now thanks to you. This is my favourite segment of the video, and I am very grateful to you for making it. 04:17:35 I have indeed been yelling “blender” at the screen, thank u for acknowledging – and thank you for sharing so many cool blender youtubers!! love the ending. Thank you for this whole video. Saluting the screen at 04:28:08 NEGATIVE FEEDBACK / SUGGESTIONS: the music from 04:43 - 04:51 feels way out of place. The silence was better imo the Davy Jones joke at 13:41 – this isn’t necessarily a bad thing but I think you’ve made this joke before in a different video at 21:10 there’s a visual glitch, not sure if that’s deliberate 27:25 I cannot believe u cut “can you eat?” I loved that bit the illuminautii thing at 56:15 made me cringe so hard. I hope you leave it in but jesus fucking christ at 01:05:02 you bring up watergate and I have to admit, hoping I’m not the only one, I have no idea what actually happened in the watergate scandal. I don’t have that much knowledge about old american politics. You might need to do a quick rundown on what, like, the burglaries were? and why the president was being investigated the audio from 01:12:21 – 01:12:28 has a high-pitched whine in the background that is VERY painful to listen to, please please please filter this out this might just be me but I have no idea what youre talking about w.r.t. the shadows at 01:38:48? this is the biggest flaw of the video in my opinion: from 01:36:01 to 02:04:20 the video is kind of depressing, and it kind of makes me want to turn the video off. There are loads of good jokes and interesting visuals, but the *tone* is depressing enough for a viewer (especially if they’ve been watching for 90 minutes straight so far) to fall asleep a little bit. Maybe it’s just that when you get to the section about Adobe hiking up prices into infinity, plus the cancellation fee thing, the viewer kind of gets gripped with a kind of depressed hopeless feeling, which doesn’t get *fully* dispelled until your brilliant conclusion. We’re so numb to this kind of dystopian bullshit that, at least for me, I can feel myself turning off and wanting to think about something else. I feel like this slower tone lasts a solid half an hour, and it would be a real shame for people to drop off before reaching the 2h mark, because the video past that gets really interesting! I’m sorry to present you with a problem without a clear solution, but I think it’s really worth looking into. at 01:48:26 you say “3840” while showing a number that says “3830” I hate this bit, at 01:59:23. Even though that’s not really her real face, it just sounds like you’re insulting her appearance and you come off really unpleasant and nasty. I’m sure there’s another way you can phrase this critique? I think a lot of people don’t realise their local library has a printer. You could suggest as much at 02:31:16 I think this would benefit from having the chainsaw sound effect, as used at the start of the video, at timestamp 02:46:26 at 03:29:01 you cut to footage of Steve Wozniak and as someone who’s not good with faces, I was very confused for a while thinking this was still Steve Jobs. Might be helpful to put an arrow pointing to him going “Steve Wozniak” for fools like me, at either 03:29:01 or 03:29:08 when you say his name. 03:58:37 ew! TLDR: thank you for creating this. this version is incredibly informative and inspiring, with only a mild lull around 01:36:00 - 02:04:00.

El Tomatron

I absolutely loved this video! What a great development of the ooo-vree your team has established over the last few years. I also particularly enjoy the way music from your previous videos comes back remixed or edited for your new topic, really makes all your videos fit together thematically. I would echo criticisms of the “one female viewer” line and also criticism of your use of the term psychotic. It’s a clinical term and it may do more harm than good to further an audience’s view of them as insults, especially on such a large platform. With such a long runtime, I admired the structure the most; starting by introducing the premise, Bork, and the weakening of anti-trust laws; then company after company devolving into a subscription economy in an attempt to follow the example of companies like Adobe; finally you introduce the last part, describing the different ways monopolies have been challenged before, starting with the most effed up way - another monopoly - and then going on to educate your audience about real, tangible ways that they can contribute to a new precedent. The CODA was a particularly emotional time for me, especially as I’ve had to juggle between using premiere for my actual job and Da Vinci for personal projects, simply because I don’t trust Adobe. You thought switching over was tough? I hate the concept of juggling two different softwares, with different hot keys, just so I can make sure I have a life jacket when Adobe is completely scrapped at my work. No part felt too long, but the one area where your chapter placement felt weird was Part 9: MONEEEEE. Functionally, it’s just a buildup to chapter Tapple, which makes it feel like it doesn’t really need to be there, especially since the whole story is about money (and your last few videos for that matter). I wonder if, for the purposes of pacing, it would make more sense to distinguish PARTS and CHAPTERS. Like, instead of just doing 13 chapters, perhaps break up the story into three parts, much like a novel. Part 1 is Antitrust, Part 2 is Adobe (and its bastard children). Part 3 is Apple Strikes Back. The structure remains the same (especially since your comedy bits literally break up those specific sections; the landlord’s game and the bartender, and then the borkening leading up to enforcing the laws). Chapter 9 can just be an intro to Part 3 instead of feeling like a short, questionable tangent leading up to chapter 10. Obviously you would still use chapters, but you would use fewer and each break into a new chapter might feel more meaningful. I dunno, this is the way I learned to give notes in screenwriting class. Not trying to tell you what to do, but this opportunity stuck out to me. It’s not meant to be a reshoot per se, but potentially a rethinking of what’s already there. Also, for a video that has its own little section about why you should specifically boycott Apple, I was surprised to find no mention of its horrendous sourcing practices, utilizing child labor in cobalt mines. I recognize that your video is very much Eurocentric and Americentric and you’re trying to stay on point. But you seem to have a special hate for the way Apple does things, and I suspect that, with a platform like yours, you stand to convince a large number of people to wean off of Apple products. And as much as I hate the way Apple has tried to monopolize, this feels like a poignant time to mention its exploitation of people who are literally MEANT to get sidelined in this story. So many of these companies are uniquely horrible in the way they’ve cut costs by outsourcing it to people they don’t even view as consumers. I’m not trying to say “do a whole other chapter on this” but some mention would go a long way in furthering consciousness of these horrible practices and the way companies can just get away with it. Just a thought. It’s poignant to think that some people existing under this tech ecosystem don’t even get the privilege of being looked at as “consumers.” They’re just producers of materials, whether they like it or not. I’m inspired by the recommendations at the end, as well as your willingness to get so vulnerable about your own insecurities as a creator. I’m sure it’s made (or will make?) many of your viewers feel less afraid of trying new things that scare them at first. Thank you, and may you find only the greatest tracks on epidemic.

El Tomatron

Not only does he believe in horsey sci-fi now, but I feel like this is the first time hbomb has used the term “asshole” and employed gunfire so liberally. America may finally have its teeth in.

Eoin Dunphy

soooo... hbomberguy is howtobasic?

horrorzoi

TOWN WITH NO NAME REFERENCE. LOVE YALL

MrSerious

video too long watched anyway tired thanks

ChaoticNeutralNPC

40:10 I know this is absolutely not something you guys could fit in the video at this stage, but I have PMDD - a debilitating condition with a high suicide rate and very few effective treatments. And I recently found a consulting firm report which may have evidence of a pharmaceutical company doing this, when they liquidated and single-handedly destroyed development of the promising new PMDD drug that a lot of doctors and patients hopes had been riding on. https://www.delveinsight.com/report-store/premenstrual-dysphoric-disorder-pipeline-insight

ChaoticNeutralNPC

Brief context: Currently, the only approved treatment options for PMDD are birth control and SSRI’s. Those aren’t effective for a large number of people (without sources on hand, think about 40%?) The only birth control specifically approved for PMDD is Yaz (largely because the pharmaceutical company - Bayer - was the only one to actually fund their birth control to be studied for PMDD. In the last several years, a promising new drug, isoallopregnanolone (brand name Sepraprolene) made it to clinical trials. There are a lot of research articles and posts around the early 2020s with a lot of excitement for how there may finally be an effective treatment for PMDD. Then the pharmacautical company developing it (Asarina pharmacauticals) liquidated, and the company that bought the development rights is only reseaching it for tourettes, for reasons I’ve struggled to find. https://asarinapharma.com/all_news/asarina-pharma-sells-sepranolone-assets-to-relmada-therapeutics/ While trying to find an answer, I came across the report. I haven’t found a way to access it yet, but the publicly visible summary to me absolutely makes it look like Asarina are trying to hide something. The fact that the report states there are “approx 2+. key companies” but only Asarina is mentioned anywhere, the fact that the timeline for Sepranolone ends at the last clinical trials and then “Further product details are provided in the report…….” in really out-of-place bright red text and the fact that the summary does not contain an actual summary, just vague statements and questions that seem to imply that the lack of progress with PMDD drug development is mostly due to corporate decisions. In the last several years, there were finally a number of existing drugs starting to be researched for PMDD (dutasteride, ulipristol acetate, SPRMs, brexalone), then that research has seemed to slow down or stopped again before any of the drugs became available as treatment options. I’m not sure why. Probably very innocent explainations like COVID or lack of PMDD awareness or lack of funding. But after reading that summary… I wonder whether there might also be something more sinister going on. As you can probably tell, this is a topic that is very close to home to me. I have PMDD, and since SSRI’s and birth control didn’t work for me (and as a trans man, any of the hormonal treatments are complicated) - I was left with nothing else to try. I have pretty severe PMDD, and currently can’t work, study, or leave the house most days. It’s been a fight just to stay alive this long. There are many people with PMDD who lost that fight, waiting for a treatment. If the people at Asarina did in fact deliberately chose to stall progress in favour of profit… there would undeniably be blood on their hands.

Bryce Davis

Hbomb, I love Reaper! It’s my preferred DAW, and when I was a student, they offered free licenses that gave you full access to the software as long as it wasn’t being used for commercial purposes.

Joseph Souza

Idk abput anyone else but the video freezes RIGHT near the last hour where he talks about how Steve and the guys from Adobe used to be friends

Zane DenHartog

I love the video, I think you reiterate some details about how monopolies force consumers to accept lower quality products at higher rates in the first quarter of the video. However, please give us an unlisted YouTube video so you don't have to watch it through patreon. I'm one of like, a dozen people that watches YouTube on their TV I can't exactly get patreon through my ps5

MisterAyed

So wait, John Oliver is copying Hbomberguy now? LWT did their report on abusive subscription models hmmm

eloise

thank you for this, i was getting bored of hearing tommy tallarico and illuminauti’s voices

Akhos

Ronald "The Ripper" Reagan is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read

David Birchett

Okay, so whilst amazing, I’m at the three hour mark and it’s so relentlessly depressing in a really existential way I’m having to put it down to pick up again another day. 😂🫠

Bruno Damacena

Finally got around to see it... bravo 👏 👏 👏

Radiant Veil

Jon Oliver stole your whole flow

Hönky

Did you already see Last Week Tonight episode from this week on basically the same issue? Will you reference it?

Paige

Oh god it’s hard enough living in Missouri, but now I have to be reminded of Josh Hawley here too??? lol

Deacon Miranda-Gale

Dude I’m pretty sure someone from last week tonight’s writing team saw this.

gautheuil lauthier

3:03:39 I don't know if this abrupt cut is voluntary or not.

uvaballfan

I hate Elon too, but I think the Tesla section is a bit misguided. Tesla has made electric vehicles more affordable due to their scale than they otherwise would be. The cars are only $40k, not $60k, which is more reasonably priced than all of the giant SUVs everyone is driving with. Also, you show a car exploding when talking about the coffin but that is the whole thing with Tesla's - they are much safer in regards to explosions because there is no gasoline. There is also a manual door opener that can be used at anytime emergency or not. Full Self Driving is in its infancy and will save many many lives when it becomes a mature technology. If you want to pick on Tesla, just use the simple recent change where they removed the option to outright buy FSD. Before it was expensive but you could buy it if you wanted. Now you HAVE to rent it. Pick on that stuff, not the stuff that is good.

Emily Jayne Peters

I actually loved the video and anybody saying it’s too long is a COWARD

Avidkeo

Well I finally got to the Avid section, and boy do I feel judged! My username is Avidkeo for pete's sakes! And I'm oy 8n my 40s, I'm not that old damn it! I started on Avid in 2000 and LOVED the keyboard shortcuts, I love keyboard shortcuts full stop, because if you know them well you can be damned fast at editing. I never used media composer, but I used XpressDV, a slightly more trimmed down software, because Premier suckled with its media management at the time. I stepped away from professional editing in 2007 but still dabble from time to time, mostly on Premier. Which I did grow to enjoy. While I no longer professionally edit, having changed careers entirely, it hurt to hear Avid talked about that way. But if the software genuinely hasn't changed since the early 2000s then fair. But boy do I feel embarrassed. I need a new user name

Alex

Ssterilizing language to the point of total inoffensiveness also totally neuters the impact. Any effectively descriptive word will upset someone. This isn't ableism, it's language arts.

ThiVenture

actually i kinda loved the way you just Interjected "nay?!!" at the very beggining of the first version....would love if you reversed that 💔

Soundboy Seb

the EFF and FOSS mentions are on point, the example of learning new tools is amazing, the ending overall feels positive and wraps back to tutorials neatly

Gerry Nava

Appreciate the ending of the video and the will to fight but you can just openly say we should pirate the software. It is always the morally correct option.

Critique Quartz

Oh my god sniped by John Olivier, unbelievable.

wirving

So when you got to the section talking about how it sucks that Valve takes 30% as well and how bad it would be if they "owned the entire operating system" I thought that was going to segue into mentioning SteamOS. Sure, it's based on Linux, and Valve has been pretty good about contributing back to Proton and other open source projects, but I wonder if it's a long play to do just that.

ThiVenture

exactly, i think it could've worked somehow but it just felt weird

Matthew Mendenhall

One of the things I love about your videos, especially the longer ones, is that they usually have a narrative structure that seems to reflect the research process. You essentially argue by investigation: you start with a narrow question, and answering it creates the next question, until the research has produced a much larger story (sometimes one almost completely unrelated to the original question). I’d structure ROBLOX_OOF.mp3 something like: Where did “oof” come from? → Did Tommy Tallarico make it? → What exactly did Tommy do on Messiah? → Why does his account keep changing? → Are his other career claims true? → Holy shit, he really wasn’t on MTV Cribs (lmao) → This is actually a story about an industry failing to properly credit the people who create its work. What’s amazing about ROBLOX_OOF.mp3, and even Plagiarism and You(Tube), is that despite their length, they feel lean. Each discovery creates a reason to investigate the next thing. By the end, something that initially seemed trivial has become evidence for a much larger problem. This video didn’t quite give me that same feeling of inevitability. There are a lot of societal problems here—subscription licensing, monopolies, closed systems, consolidation, stock assets/presets, AI, weakened antitrust law, etc.—and I wasn’t always sure which one the investigation was ultimately trying to explain. If the answer really is CAPITALISM, I wonder whether the Act Cards could more explicitly organize the different mechanisms by which capitalism produces the problems you’re describing. Put differently: at times I felt like the thesis preceded the investigation rather than emerging from it. The “argument by investigation” is a huge part of what makes your longer videos so rewatchable for me, and I think some more structural plotting could preserve that feeling here. For whatever it’s worth, I watched the whole cut once, in one sitting, and don’t think about software very much. I tried afterward to reconstruct the investigation from memory: What happened to Adobe Flash Player/cross-system vector graphics? → Why are tutorials becoming less artistically useful? → Why are my software tools disappearing? → Why am I paying more for tools I increasingly don’t know how to use? → Why am I increasingly being pushed toward corporate stock content, presets, and AI? → What economic system made digital creation feel increasingly feudal? → What happened to antitrust enforcement that allowed these systems to develop? → Bork. → Apple killing Flash becomes one example of the consequences of closed systems and weakened competition. → These outcomes were political choices and can therefore be changed through political/legal action. I hope this is useful! I’m emphasizing structure because there is a ton of material in the video that I found interesting. I just didn’t always feel one discovery forcing us toward the next discovery in the way I do in your strongest long-form videos. I do not know if it’s possible to emulate the argument by investigation structure for this video because it’s missing a single thread you can keep pulling (Tommy Tallarico, plagiarism, etc.). If not, then I might recommend treating your research findings into Adobe/subscription licensing/Bork/anti-trust legislation as a primer to teach audiences how to think about APPLE/FLASH PLAYER as a case study. At least this way it would make audience thinking pathological applied to all kinds of markets affected by Capitalisms current excesses. TL;DR Your best long videos argue by investigation: each discovery forces the next question until a much larger story emerges. This cut has fascinating material, but I didn’t always feel that narrative inevitability. It may need a narrower mystery/thread to pull—or, if that isn’t possible, use the Adobe/subscription/Bork/antitrust material as a primer that gives us the tools to understand Apple/Flash as the culminating case study.

MartyMayhem27

Which one of you Patreon subs are writer for LWT with John Oliver?? Fess up to your crimes!

DisplayNameWasNotTaken

I am around the two-hour timemark so don't judge me if this was covered, but Autodesk pricing on construction software (including AutoCAD) has a genuine (albeit minor) impact on house affordability.

Quitpayload

Out of curiosity, I looked up Mudbox. I don't know if you're aware but on August 7th 2026, 4 days before you put this video out, Autodesk discontinued Mudbox

Quitpayload

It's also outdated because Autodesk discontinued Mudbox a few days before he put the video out, lol

Hbomb

Yup! I knew this before I posted the patreon draft and just put it on the list of things to put in the final version. Thanks for pointing it out though!

Krystof

I would like to add to the Patreon part of the video. As a IOS paying suporter. I dont even have the option to pay in-app. I need to head to the browser and pay there - So I would guess thats the reason why you have 0% ios members. :D

Alchemy Studios

I know you're looking for criticism here but I don't have any of that. What I do have is this. I am a creator as well, across multiple different fields and also work in a creative industry. Therefore I am beholden to and often feel trapped by many of the tools you mention in this very video. I felt very seen by this video, both for these reasons and for another, more personal one. Whenever I first started traversing the Internet and discovered the concept of open source, I envisioned some kind of tech-based utopia, filled with technological innovations designed, built and maintained by the people, for the people. Maybe because of all these reasons I don't think I've laughed harder, more times at any of your videos. I also think this may be my favorite Hbomb video of all time. The world is such a brighter, more hopeful, more creative place with you in it, and I can't possibly thank you enough for that.

Jyle

Dozens of people probably already said this, but I think "bishie" used to be short or bishonen. So he's your special pretty boy.

gunduzc

HBOMB GON BE A LINUX CHANNEL LETSGOOO

Julian

Maybe “unhinged” would be less sensitive? I think there’s a point to be made that in context, referring to something as “psychotic” points to it being profoundly detached from the reality that most people are experiencing. “Unhinged” refers to the same thing, much like “insane” would, but it at least doesn’t share overlap with the clinical term “psychosis”.

Fionn Moriarty

This is great but you low key acknowledge the existence of horses so I don’t know how to feel now WHO ARE YOU ANYMORE?! (I know, we’re not friends and you’ll kill me)

Dean

I'm 2 hours in and this is the fourth "Arrrrr" I mentally yell at the screen. It's so beautiful having a bunch of different Adobe services on my PC - from different years that I like (I'm using Acrobat from 2015), all downloaded relatively recently, and having to pay a crisp 0$ for it all. Long live and bless the souls who work hard on creating elaborate rigmaroles to stop Adobe's crapware from talking to the internet. I'll finish the video soon, so Idk if this was referenced later on, but Adobe is also one of the most aggressive and tenacious pirate hunters in the industry, so the fact this small sector is still alive is incredible.

uvaballfan

I think the biggest piece missing from this video are optimism and empowerment. Maybe this is your point, but it is tough to sit through this 4.5 hour video - not due to the length, but due to the fact that it will make you feel bad. You criticize some of the most popular pieces of technology, so the Venn diagram is going to hit everyone somewhere, often in multiple places in their lives, and then you say things like "but the competitors aren't any better". You need to inject more positivity earlier/throughout the video. Saying "everything is awful" for 4.25 hours and then talking a few minutes at the end of positivity. I've already checked out of thinking this is something that can be fixed. In your other videos, you picked very clear bad actors, highlighted institutions that encouraged these bad actors to keep acting badly, and viewers could watch it and say "Yes, making original content is hard, but the challenge is what makes work rewarding". The audience is "laughing with you" so to speak. I'll put those videos on in the background while I work to encourage me to work hard. At the end of the Plagiarism video, you say "I don't really know what I'm supposed to do now with this information" - but the viewers know. Here, we are all left sad and confused. It is hard to feel like I can be a rational consumer.

Sergio Alanís

How did you know ive never had mackerel, this is an invasion to my privacy

Jim Downing

I wasn’t ready for the Reggie Watts jumpscare

TORT

Man, now I don't want to spend money on a company's software unless it has an ownership setup that prevents it's own buyout. I have no clue how this kind of thing works in reality, but I've HEARD Blender distributes it's ownership so that every of the hundred or so co-owners would have to agree to a buyout, making so virtually impossible.

Alan Smithee

"This isn't one of my normal videos where I criticize someone, they fake their death and become a wedding photographer" I nearly fucking died hearing that line.

Kek Ağlak

heyyyy harry, hoşbulduk and about regional pricing, I have known a bunch of people from my uni's art faculty and a lot of them have to use adobe 2013 version(?) cracked in some way I believe. Other than that individuals who just want to use the "product" has to pay as usual which used to be 500 as you've put it but with the insight of someone who has lived in this shit hole for 20 years I can say that is an absolutely horrific pricing. For comparison, youtube student subscription is like 70 tart larts (Turkish Liras) rn which I'd say is 1.4% of a a regular university student's budget, spotify is likewise close to 70 for students aswell. However ofcourse these are not apps to be used for work so thry are not the best way to compare to an adobe subscription, therefore we can compare it to microsoft office deals which seems to be 7 usd shown to me through microsoft's official site so it iiis something like 330 tarts (holy hell I didn't know it was that expensive, Iswear like 4 years ago it was 40 tarts) so in comparison adobe's 500 tarts pricing was already weird for regional pricing but 10 THOUSAND? I can tell you there is not one individual who can pay that, that's 200% of my budget which is 5000 tarts, the only legitemate and legal customers adobe probably has left in turkey are just corporations and nothing more. Anyways I'm going back to continue watching the video now baiiii <33

Kek Ağlak

Excuese me if I have any grammar mistakes, I'm sick asf and I did not check back anything I wrote. I feel the urge to leave this comment because of the fear of being a bad representative or smtnhg idk oki love y'all bbaii

Stefan C Bauer

I'm going to have to get a t-shirt that says 'I was into antitrust before HBomb made it cool'

BezSensej

ahh i see what you're doing here! well played mister harrison well played. cant w8 for the remake. i even tried to steal this to show to my broke friend to get him in on the joke before the remake video releases, but u made it impossible to be stolen using googleable instructions and i'm not smart enough to hack it

Ceren K

Hmbomb speaking turkish woke me up like a sleeper agent I cant believe this

VagueKing

I've never dreaded coming on the end of a 4.5 hour video ever...until today. This is amazing stuff as usual. Thank you.

VagueKing

The horse lobby got him 😢

Ryan Elliott

I'm partnering with Adobe 🥵 💦 🍆 Also, Temecula reference, welcome to the IE

Matt Dear

this is fucking fantastic. i'm furious.

hazelshade

i work in assets at Wētā Digital (now Wētā FX) and have never heard of Mudbox

Conor Lane

If it helps or is insightful at all, I literally just subscribed yesterday and my iPhone wouldn’t even let me pay on the app at all. I had to go into the browser to subscribe, not sure if this is a setting you’ve enabled (if so, big love) or if Patreon has just removed it entirely

Resident DJ Precht

You know. I have to actually work with these programs. You awoke a deep anger that should have been there a while. By simply zooming out. Beautiful. Thx Edit: also thx for the reference to the true western game.

vhtx

Yessssss become a linux guy already

Allan Fox

This video is fantastic as is. Ship it.

Toony Loony

Needs to be more consistent about the fact horses aren’t real please remove and replace all references to horses expeditiously

Edward Caine

4 and a half hours?! Looks like I’m not seeing my wife and children today. Again.

Hyperhero2

Adding my support to change it back!

W*E(FP4fhuiw

As a bipolar person who deals with psychosis (I've been wildly psychotic three times in my life), I'm perfectly fine with hbomb using the term so long as he's using it to mean "deviates from consensus reality." If you wanted, you could say "deviates from consensus reality" in a funny way instead of "psychotic" and it would mean the exact same thing, but you wouldn't be leaning on language that some of your audience might interpret as a dismissal of people who suffer from psychosis.

W*E(FP4fhuiw

I'm going to give this a few watches before I leave feedback, including a couple second-screen watches, but I did notice my patreon sub lapsed (I think due to a credit card expiring). Please put me in the credits if I'm not, I promise, I've been here a long time!

mahbluebird

There's five shadows now! Five shadows are a literary device in which

Edugamer123

i really liked the joke about leftists and prisons of our own making but i guess it ultimately clashed with the video's message

AdamOnHook

I'm still falling asleep to it

Dorine Mestre

I am re-watching the video and realized what you say around the 1:30h mark isn’t accurate. Companies don’t spend that much money during acquisition because they use the profit the company they want to buy is going to make in the following years as payment to the bank, so the new company basically buys itself / pays for its own acquisition. The buying company just has to convince a bank they will be able to pay them back with said profit

Harrison Barnett

Is there a reason during the section from 17:05-18:38 that y'all removed the part where HBomb admits he hadn't ticked the box either on the Climate video that made it in the 1 hour 20 minute cut? I don't think admitting that undercut the point being made, because as said in that version, the climate video opens with a "Curiosity Stream" logo and a verbal acknowledgement saying the video is sponsored. Not a big deal to have it missing, I'm just curious if there was a specific reason it was removed.

mahbluebird

RE the first point, I would counter that by most subscribers do feel that, but if it's a video that gets 20 or 30 million views then many of those views will come from people who are relatively new to the concept, and need a more detailed explanation of it and what's so wrong with it that's very enjoyable and captures the audiences attention.

Toony Loony

hope he fixes this oversight

John Mapley

58:58 love how this video has been in production so long that this isn’t really true anymore and it wouldn’t be surprising to see a bestseller with a chapter named like this

John Mapley

The word choice here doesn’t seem ideal, but I don’t think “evil”, as suggested by a large number of commenters, is much better. Dismissing someone as evil lets them off the hook by taking away their culpability and passing it off to a wishy washy religious concept

John Mapley

1:47:06 at the risk of being accused of shilling for Adobe, the price difference here is more-or-less VAT, which is included upfront in pricing in the UK but not in the US where sales tax varies by state

The Shaggy Sniper

Another one you can throw in the mix is Meta - both the Quest VR headsets, and the Meta Portal devices. The Quest VR headsets are physical things you own to play VR games available on the Facebook Marketplace. However, if for some reason you lost access to your Facebook account, either by deletion or receiving a ban, you would now lose access to your headset as well. Additionally, Facebook had launched a Zoom-like webcam for TV's called the Facebook Portal TV. It was really convenient for families to keep in touch with each other from their living rooms, basically connecting households to each other via their living rooms. As hellish as that may seem about having a webcam and microphone pointed at your couch, it was exceptional at the service it provided, as it simply used Facebook Messenger's live video platform. And just for funzies, they killed the service. It was launched in 2019, became somewhat popular in 2020, and then axed in 2022. They reported that it would be supported for a few years, however that some of the services would be phased out sooner. And so of course, the core service of being a live video conferencing device, was one of the first to go. You now had a $150 paperweight that sat on top of your TV.

Leo Barrack

into the last half hour and wow this is more optimistic than i was expecting, i honestly thought we were living in a post-law era for big money so it's surprising and refreshing to hear change is actually possible if we just, like, try

Edward Caine

Keir Starmer resigned. RIP hbomberguy

Edward Caine

Really good but depressing video that should be a 14 part series. You’re right - anti-trust needs more support. In my opinion the reason the far right are on the rise is because of the global affect the monopolisation of internet trade has had on high streets and other local amenities In my opinion rent to own is the only viable subscription service, but companies will find a way around it the same way they create new versions of the software and effectively abandon the old ones. Just like you can’t give up adobe though I can’t give up Apple. I just like the way the products work. It’s annoying

Liam White

The degeneration of the demo the ceo belongs to is the key to why this is happening

Arjun Danna

great video. really excited for this to come out and to see how the culture responds -- incredibly important topic for artists of all mediums

Geoffro Tull

I made my first album on CoolEditPro and Lord do I miss it

enonibobble

At 1:47:16 you use the UK being £66.49/mo vs the US being $69.99/mo as an example of regional pricing, saying its 25% more with conversion. is this not from the US price being tax excluded whereas the UK price is with VAT (30%)?

Case Stone

Excellent video so far. Some food for thought for future videos or installments, particularly since you’ve made videos about the health sector before. Epic Systems is pivoting itself to become a monopoly in healthcare software. They charge hospital systems extraordinary amounts of money, they’re working to integrate AI into every part of the system, and they essentially force hospital systems to employ Epic staff to maintain the software. Not to mention, the company culture is infamous for being… incredibly bizarre. Not just the campus, but their culture of encouraging employees to marry each other and the guide they wrote up on how to emotionally force certain employees to quit. In 2024 they slashed most work on their “progressive” projects (trans healthcare, abortion care). If Amazon, Google, and Apple are wrecking our private ownership, Epic Systems is wrecking how doctors treat patients.

Kristy Marcinova

John Oliver over at Last Week Tonight did a piece on subscriptions, which is interesting timing! While funny as always, I've found his take a bit lukewarm and barely touched the surface! But glad at least he gave the topic some visibility.

Sneha Mishra

Couldn’t agree more! I’m a graphic designer being forced to integrate AI into my process and it is so exhausting. This video was very informative, I didn’t even know that Adobe didn’t create PS, I think this video will help people understand that the system has been broken for a long time and a lot of people are very tired but it is also up to us to push for the change we want to see!

DJ Bongwater

would love to see more FOSS!!! im a slowly converting linux user that's still a slave to apple for all music stuff, but the more i find out about open source alternatives the more inspired i become

Stigcrafter

Can’t find my original comment but I changed my mind, video is good and it being released is the best thing that can happen for it

Jimbo

man i gotta check my emails more often

Jimbo

THE WEDDING PHOTOGRAPHER LINE.... I just burst out laughing like a maniac

Jimbo

omg the intertextual references are sending me.. 'and thats uhhh tricky dick' you know we watch this videos 3 quintillion times so we're gonna catch every ref lmaoo

Jimbo

you were right big burn is pm now

Jimbo

'an atheist, the ultimate kind of protestant' according to my catholic mother, this joke is very good. you could say she's very proud

Jimbo

i cannot WAIT for the jacksfilms cameo

Edward Caine

Ok, so I’ve been doing some thinking about the Apple Store 30% was the profit margin we looked for when I used to sell sheet music in a shop (remember those?) It wasn’t the only music shop around but it was the only place locally that you could get a lot of the music we sold I don’t think it’s unreasonable for Apple to charge for software to be displayed in their stores - stores have to make money The objection is that it’s a monopoly owing it to be a closed system - theoretically you can’t download apps without going through the Apple Store But - thinking about it again apple’s profit isn’t 30 percent. Every charge will include about 10 percent that goes to whatever transaction handling system is in place You can’t pay for anything online without paying that - you can’t pay for anything in cash online. you think Apple is bad? Think about the vast companies that handle money *at all* online. I just bought an ice cream from an ice cream van - I could have paid by cash, but because it’s so normalised to use card for everything, I didn’t have any cash, and I paid by card That ice cream man will have had to pay a portion of his income to whatever group handles his card transactions. That’s also a monopoly, isn’t it? How deep does this hole go? How long before we realise this is just the price of living now? Should we all just go back to making our own ice cream and coding our own software? iPhones are a closed operating system - we can’t code them easily, but then so is my washing machine. I didn’t buy it so that I could sideload doom on it….

Jason Fanelli

The bartender gag got me good, well done.

Mike McGrath

Missed opportunity to call it ZedBrush

Kate Dager

Extremely interesting video topic! I work at a university with a pretty robust art department that requires students to use adobe products such as illustrator and photoshop. They get a subscription while enrolled and then immediately lose the only products they know how to use for the techniques they spent years learning.

MegaNovaShizzle

As a Type-Moon fan, I barely even felt the wait!

Sanika Joshi

Holy mackerel, it's here! Stellar video! 💯 Since you are open to edit suggestions, I will add mine in the replies to this.

Sanika Joshi

Early in the video: You had a bit in the old version with Rachel's craft services table asking her whether she can even eat. That was funny, I missed it in this run. 1:54 Please don't spit on the AVID keyboard, that's disturbing to look at.

Sanika Joshi

Maybe get rid of the AVID keyboard destruction B-roll entirely, actually. 😅

Sanika Joshi

2:25 The "oh it records" bit looks too contrived.

Lucia

I can't believe i actually fell asleep rewatching this late at night and the horn joke was actually what woke me up. It was like okk dear sir H i will go brush my teeth

m0sifer

Speaking as someone who already bit the bullet and swapped to Davinci Resolve Studio. The software is improving rapidly. Very quickly, as people are moving over from After Effects and Premiere Pro, features familiar to those, such as a graph editor in the "Edit" panel, are making their way over as well. BlackMagic are also infinitely less incentivized to hit the "go evil button" than almost anyone else, because their main incoime does not come from their software. They mainly get their money by selling premium hardware for audio and video production, as well as their aforementioned cameras. You cannot enter into a single production room in the world without seeing the name BlackMagic somewhere on a black box or a control surface. That's why they give away copies of the full DRS with almost anything they sell, and why the free version is available with most of the features your average hobby editor would need. I would argue that fear of using Davinci Resolve might be a bit of Adobe Trauma (been there), and especially in the absence of a solid open source video editor, Resolve is a really good option. In short: BlackMagic as a business are not competing with other video editing software. They're competing with RED, Sony, and ARRI in cameras. The software is a value add to their cameras, ATEM switchers, etc.

Ronald

As you say, its a draft, but we've all already seen 90% of it. Everyone who cares enough to pay to support the work has seen it. You only get one 1st impression, but continuously going back and editing things after your primary audience has seen something just seems off to me, this is starting to feel like a game preview lol, and I'm of the opinion that game previews should be destroyed

The Wizard Squeamish

Holy mackerel! Holy guacamole! Holy mashed potatoes, Batman!

Cindy

Put this on to go to sleep since I've already watched the first hour and a half... was awake till 6am

Cindy

It landed for me... I think it's absolutely a product designed and marketed towards women :)

Cindy

that thye might take it out

Cindy

I think it should be 4 hours longer though if thats possible thank you

mys

oops, i missed this one. anyhow, you had me screaming internally "OPEN SOURCE" for about 4 hours and 15 minutes, i am just personally starting out on editing and creation but all my stack is open source (obs, kdenlive, glaxnimate, blender, gimp, audacity) obviously my shit isn't really fancy, but it is beyond doable, and i'm surprised with how much one can accomplish with these tools. hell you can even edit actual videos with blender (don't know why anyone would do that but it's there) PS: I saw you holding a thinkpad years ago, you have been a linux for a while, you just didn't know yet.

The Wizard Squeamish

Holy Houdini, Batman! I watched it last night and then started watching it again this morning side-to-side with the first 1hr20mins version, so good job cutting down the Advertutorial section, adding more gags and editing goofs, as well as going more in depth on Bork, Nixon, and Reagan. Really nice Steve Jobs and The Bullet foreshadowing, I'm gonna love adding this to my DVD collection once I finally figure out how to rip a YouTube video :-) I've seen other comments saying this, but maybe the home appliances, gaming, and car sections could be cut down in a similar way to the Film Riot and Pedro sections (unless they were already cut down lol). Take your time and have fun, you caped crusader, you! Xxx

The Wizard Squeamish

On a similar note, in my personal life I've been trying to stop saying things like "I'm gonna kill him!" when somebody does something that mildly inconveniences me, because at the end of the day it's still a death threat... which I am told is frowned upon in most cultures. There's something like this in the first 20 minutes, which I acknowledge would be tricky to go back and change since it was probably filmed soooo long ago (and I believe on location in Temecula), but I - just me - would really appreciate a different joke where that was. Heart emoji Edit: Has anyone who is calling this suggestion (which has over 400 likes mind you) a sensitive snowflake identity politics problem ever heard of systemic ableism and sanism? Things that affect peoples' lives and thoughts and actions and language? Why are you defending that?

The Wizard Squeamish

I liked the mention of Blender, I liked the semi honorable mention of Reaper (which is only technically free to use lol), would have appreciated a mention of kdenlive. Also yeah, maybe make it more obvious that when Google was trying to block non-PlayStore apps from being authenticated that this was a direct attack on FOSS apps which weren't stuffed to the brim with adware, but that literally only came into effect this August so I do understand why he would focus more squarely on the book length verdicts. Maybe mention LineageOS which helps people to de-Google their phones, but which paradoxically mostly only works on Google Pixels lol

The Wizard Squeamish

Is there a version that doesn't escalate to a death threat? Use it!

The Wizard Squeamish

Like editing, subtitles work best when they are understated. We don't need subtitles to be Brechtian and break the fourth wall, we need subtitles to be able to understand what is being said in the video

The Wizard Squeamish

Yeah it's kind of buried in there at the end with a collage of other lines and jokes around it. Would be good to have the call to action as its own clearly defined section

The Wizard Squeamish

As a disabled viewer this was the hbomberguy video that made me cry the most because so much of my accessibility software is being fucked up by LLMs. I deactivate it as much as I can but, if I ever need to clear my cookies cache, I have to deactivate it all over again. Second place for hbomberguy video that made me cry was the Plagiarism one because yeah, we are literally being encouraged to turn our brains off and plagiarise everything we see. Imitation is supposed to be the highest form of flattery, not whatever the fuck Silicon Valley has gotten us all into against our wills this decade!

The Wizard Squeamish

biological imp- i mean corporate-commercial imperative innit

The Wizard Squeamish

I agree. As penance for his sins, hbomberguy's next video must now be Pathologising Language: A Measured Response

The Wizard Squeamish

the hbomberguy cinematic universe, it's expanding! what phase are we even in right now lol

Zixzari

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Astromanaught

Gotta figure a way to cut this into 4 episodes. Way too long for just one

Ina Tomecek

As a 3D artist working in games, I'm required to use Adobe products for both 3D and 2D, (The Max 3D apps are subscriptions annoyingly separate from Photoshop and the rest of the Creative Cloud) so I felt very seen hearing about how horrible these monopolies are for professionals. I work in indie and thankfully there's been a trend since the pandemic towards open-source options or allowing people to choose altogether. I kid you not, just before I signed up as a Patron, I was wishing for you to make an essay regarding Adobe's monopoly and here it was, the first post I see alongside so much more I'm glad I know now!

Danielle Workman

Is that Erik in the background at the ~28 minute mark? The lack of sweat made it really hard to be sure

W*E(FP4fhuiw

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toastthecat

the illuminaughtii reference at 56:15 LMAAAOOOO

Desi Fowl

I hope this takes off with as much cultural fire as Dan Olson's Line Goes Up. This is excellent

Frosti

The talk of people suing debt to fund their life felt like it was going to lead into Klarna et al - for them to not be mentioned felt odd as they are the perfect example of how this plays out

Luci, Demon Shut-In

"psychotic" refers to psychopathy, not psychosis; psychopathy is the inability to feel empathy or other regular emotions, and was never officially a medical diagnosis. in common language it means evil, and unnecessarily cruel. on the other hand psychosis is an official medical term and generally deals with hallucinations and a sense of unreality; the two dont really have a lot of overlap aside from the similar name

Buck Krogen

i second this!! please just move it off a bit

Erling Rostvåg

Too bad this isn't out yet, or it might have gotten featured on John Oliver. Barely beat you to it :-p

toastthecat

thats the joke ppl were mad at???

Strange Devil Arts

As a creative that has been chained to Adobe Products, this one really hit home for me. I also have super appreciated the Internet Comment etiquette with Erik crossover, it literally blew my mind open, and then to see him in this was awesome. PS. Sometimes I keep track of my drawing times from your videos. :)

kilmarnock

No, the old version just executes the build up to the death threat better.

Sunny Dionysus

I think you (and, from what i can see, everyone else with this critique) were very constructive and gentle with this comment, and the people bashing you are being absurdly aggressive. It's very odd, Have a good day (genuine)

_Typical

This'll probably get buried, but I wanted to say that I honestly think the first version of the Chinese railroad bit was better than the current one. The whole "it's so ridiculous that I want to believe it and won't research it to find out if it's true or not" just flows better than "it's real, shut up" and, additionally, encapsulates Flash's pure dominance and omnipresence in it's heyday.

Wolfy Wise

SO THATS WHERE THE TERM "BORK'D" COMES FROM

Hbomb

Thanks! The issue there is that I was genuinely not joking when I said I wasn't going to look into it, but now that I know it's true, it felt wrong to keep that in. I guess I could change it back for the sake of the joke though?

_Typical

I think keeping the old joke in works better and when you then point out that a lot of websites and some Chinese railroads stopped operating as a result of Flash's demise, that sort of confirms that it was in fact real. It's a bit contradictory, but I still feel like it improves the flow and is funnier all things considered.

Void WL

The subtitles are a bit messed up it keeps going “audio cuts out”

Void WL

In the 3d section i was like when is he going to talk about blender And edit: ok he finally did, the existence of open source is treated as a twist for pacing reasons

Niek van de Pas

This is a minor thing, but at 3:23:22 you say "the Mac became an expensive boat anchor. The iPod saved Apple from bankruptcy." while showing images of the original iMac G3. This is not really accurate: yes, Apple was near bankruptcy, but the iMac G3 was actually a massive financial success, and _together with_ the iPod saved Apple from bankruptcy.

Void WL

3:53:48 lol I just resubscribed to watch this video and i specifically went into my web browser to pay because i had heard about the Apple extra money nonsense but didn’t know about the lawsuit

Stein

I have a lot of family members who suffer from various flavors of psychopathy/sociopathy, am disabled, and have a clinical diagnosis of a related condition that I will not disclose for obvious reasons. I disagree heavily with this and think it's tone policing and unhelpful. I'm not going to get into an internet argument over this, but I am here voicing opposition to this idea. Changing this because of a complaint like this would be self-censoring and there are limits to how much people need to modify their vocab and this suggestion walks well past that line. It is not a slur, it is mildly charged at best, and as someone who thinks trigger warnings and content warnings are actually quite under-used, this is deeply, deeply into the "who fucking cares about this" mines. I also actually went out of my way to ask a sensitivity reader I know about this and they echoed that, professionally, this would not trip any alarms to any currently employed sensitivity reader they have ever worked with. There are limits to how far this stuff can go, and this is well past it. And yes, this is me being pretty reductive, but: shit like this is absolutely part of why we constantly lose and if anything current events indicate we need to get back to and used to using language that makes them uncomfortable. No, I will not be taking your opinions about that.

Stein

I feel like you should somehow add a segment where you connect the idea of someone selling you a microphone and turning it into a monopoly with AT&T because that's literally what they did for decades. AT&T would "lease" you the phone (And what is a phone if not a mic) receiver and you couldn't use any on their network that they didn't lease to you, and they wouldn't sell them to you permanently, you had to keep paying forever. In certain states it was made a felony to attempt to connect any device not sold directly by AT&T to their phone lines. It's kind of implied, but I think you should make that connection explicit because it makes AT&T seem even worse

Alena

When Hbomb doing Folder Ideas video (I'm not complaining)

Paul

You could also first have the joke with saying you won’t look into it and then later have a new part where you say that now that you have been informed (as if you where informed during the runtime of the video) you needed to tell us that it is indeed correct and then make some joke about how you can’t escape from the truth :)

Samantha Mabee

So when are you gonna start calling yourself a documentarian?

Pato ML

i think the subtitles here are automatic, they havent been made yet because the video isnt finished

Kilamonky

Good video! The restructuring from the previous version improved the flow of information. Couple criticisms though: *Kinda weird to use "bitch" as an insult against Bork one sentence after lambasting Bork for his anti-feminism writings. *In similar vein, I counted like 5 "bitches" and 1 "cunt," but no male-centered expletives in this video. *Kinda weird to lay the blame for the Palestinian genocide at the feet of Harris (Kamala, not hbomb) and not Netanyahu or the guy currently using Netanyahu's dick as a binky.

Oliver Roden

I enjoyed the iilluminaughtii reference in the Nixon bit

Bruce

Are you going to reference Cory Doctorow's work on enshittification and techno feudalism? He is a great writer and lots of people would benefit from reading his books.

O. M. G.

Holy smokes!! Absolute banger!!! I can't wait to watch this video in it's entirety again 8 to 10 times this week! I know it's an Hbomb staple, but I do believe it's always neat to point out how the video balances perfectly the logically sound sequence of the arguments and concepts while also being just such a blast to follow along with all the jokes, self-references and absurdity. The dialectical materialist in me, that prick that's almost the entirety of my being, thought they would have more issues with the conclusion, but it was so well paced and justified that he couldnt help but shut up and watch. For the final version of the video, I'd love to see you going a bit deeper on Techno Feudalism since it's such an interesting and prevalent concept beyond ownership (Goddamn you peter thiel). Other than that, there is not much I can ask for. I do imagine that some will critique the pacing of the middle section of the video with all the examples connected, but they can suck it up! It's an Hbomberguy video! You should be watching BECAUSE of it, not in spite of it! Anyhow, fabulous video with some of the best editing I've seen in a while, creative direction, great skits, a feast for the fans, interesting topic and inspiring conclusion. You've done it again Harris, you saved the world!!!

O. M. G.

Oh, to see our heroes fall...

O. M. G.

I feel the same way about musescore and it's open source community. I mean, it did a huge dent on the Sibelius empire while also being just so straightforward and fun to use and with a very involved community. Open source is the future

Dylan

I loved the vid, but the first couple hours kind of goes over the same things a lot of times The audience has already got enough examples of how different companies eat each other and that its bad, they also arent put in an order that makes the most sense I think, its not getting more and more shocking or intense, theyre just kind of equally terrible stories and examples Defo want an enshittificaiton and technofeudalism section, I think that leaves a big part of the story out, the whole "buying goodwill, then making more ads on the platform and making it shit and killing it off" is a really terrible crappy part of modern media landscapes, and prob wants some more screen time Love the vid tho

sam

Jokes on you Im not using youtube to watch this, Im using chrome instead….

Rowan

about 1h30m in you say that someone can hide a joke in the subtitles. i wouldn't recommend this because subtitles are the only accessibility tool for people who can't hear your videos for watching them. something that doesn't match up between the subtitles and the audio is either exclusively targeting or excluding D/deaf people

Nikolai Brandenhoff

Arent the companies selling themselves to adobe just as bad as adobe?

ohio_skeptic

I told my mom the situation (hasn't uploaded since the plagarism video (which I made her watch), the fact the video is currently 4.5 hours long, that you're looking for feedback and that you said "let us know if you have additional things you think we should cover") and she said "He's brilliant but he's such a perfectionist" and we agreed we aren't certain if it'll be out for real in the next six months. please prove us wrong xxxxx

ohio_skeptic

that section where you say "this isn't like my normal videos where I call someone out and they fake their death and become a wedding photographer" is my favorite thing in the world. Magnificent handling of that malarkey

ohio_skeptic

I do think it's slightly overedited in a hyper-stimulating way, specifically in the first 45 ish minutes. there's a good example of this around the 20:32 mark where there's a jarring transition between two clips in a very short period of time, the middle clip not being necessary to drive home the point being discussed. I really admire the amount of work that clearly went into finding this many clips and editing them in, but it makes the video harder to process and watch smoothly when there's so many flying by so fast.

ohio_skeptic

the quote at 1:19:27 is glorious. Thanks for the recognition of your core viewer base rewatching the plagarism video, the rest of the backlog and this video post release.

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2026-09-10 09:00 the 1:20:00 mark is a great place to put a bit of context around technofeudalism. I think even a couple sentences about the concept would help flesh it out .
2026-09-09 08:02 Originally I thought the 1:20:00 mark would be a great place to put a bit of context around technofeudalism, but the real place to do it is about 3:20:00.

Originally I thought the 1:20:00 mark would be a great place to put a bit of context around technofeudalism, but the real place to do it is about 3:20:00.

ohio_skeptic

I love an accurate video, perhaps keep the original footage and then edit in a voice over with "hey uh, it's real by the way"

sara

10-Q is as close as you can get to a what's mouth?

sara

I'm at 2:50, and I hope Accursed Farms/Ross Scott gets a shoutout for his efforts with the Stop Killing Games movement regarding a seemingly frivolous topic and why it's super important - and perhaps Louis Rossmann for his efforts with FULU regarding consumer advocacy for this kind of crap, too.

ohio_skeptic

Honestly I disagree that the first couple hours go over the same thing and that there's too many examples, I like this section a lot from a company history perspective and think it's well done.

Sebastien Rempel

The one thing I’d add is that I really loved the original version of the bawls joke where they’re evil

kapri

My only issue is referring to Magie as a socialist, when she was a Georgist, someone uninterested in doing away with capitalist social relations; but that’s probably just a nitpick. Also, Magie was born in 1866, post-advent of capitalism. Her “landlord” would have been similar to the landlords of today; not the feudal conception of manorialism or whatever

nour

i think he should just replace "female viewers" by "crafty viewers" so we can keep the tone of the joke and not make it mysoginistic

ohio_skeptic

"While we wait for the world to be saved, we can at least do our part to save each other" is one hell of a line.

Soup

did yall really drink all those?

OJ McMuffins

😟.not a fan of the barefoot stomping

Tim Mc

Is it a conscious decision to use American English and pronunciation instead of actual English? Find the use of "trash" and pronunciation of "anti" as 2 examples quite jarring

Jimbo

i wonder if hbomb has seen the hit masterpiece film antitrust starring ryan phillipe

Katherine

Agree in a slightly different way - I hate the connotations of "my one female viewer", which to me implies that Hbomb, arguably a gamer/tech/science/skeptic/politics type creator, only appeals to men. It's probably just coming from knowing their actual channel stats, but it's a common joke a lot of creators make and unless there's absolutely zero gender stereo-types associated with their content it often feels like it's bolstering those stereotypes. Honestly, it's no big deal to me, but I thought worth pointing out.

Katherine

I felt like the organisation/fixing things section was a bit too US-centric, if I'm honest. They are incredibly important, but these issues are affecting us around the world, partly BECAUSE America has been gleefully running towards oligarchy and the end of the rule-of-law for decades. Noting organisations like the EFF which work in other countries would be great.

RedCat Studio

Immediately joined the EFF and set up a donation. I'd been so overwhelmed for YEARS trying to keep track of any of the big tech bullshit in my area through individually checking congress members and trying to figure out wtf they were doing. Exhausting!! So grateful for a non-profit like them to exist!! I did have a question though- I haven't watched the last 30 minutes yet but I have a feeling it won't be answered. HOW are big companies like adobe able to buy smaller companies? Is it just because big tech is like "hey i'll give you ten squadpillion to roll over and die, thanks" and then smaller companies do that?

RedCat Studio

Plus then saying that that one woman is wrong on how to pronounce a word... yeah, not a fan

Landon Lyons

the puppet is extremely good

GhostlyClaire

oh THAT is why americans make so many Juicero jokes, holy shit.

William Jones

Stop trying to gaslight us, MartyMayhem27.

B Fo

I was told by a friend "keep an eye out for a new hbomb video, hell release one any day now and its going to be a banger!" This has been over a month ago now so I have caved and given you some of my money. Lets judge my friends taste!

Bram

lmao I was reading the exact word psychotic at the same time hbomb said it in the video.

Bram

Hello, as someone with an extremely low IQ, I find the term “stupid” deeply offensive and disheartening. He should use something more inclusive, thanks you.

Ember Wyrdt

slightly weird not to see at least a very brief clip of the O.G. Binding of Isaac in that section between 2:27-2:47 amidst all the other Iconic Shit, especially since the "Flash is Now Dead" skeleton drawing displayed shortly thereafter was a post by its creator!

B Fo

Great video - but I will not forgive you for making me yell "Blender!!" "The Blender Foundation!!!!" at the screen for three hours of this. Btw it has the option to set the keybinding to Maya-Layout so transitioning is easier. It now features video editing tools as well and it is soon going to have coworking within the same file. I love Blender so much. We learned it during University on our own while our Maya Assignments were stuttering through the Arnold Renderer for hours before inevitably crashing. (We learned about Mudbox! A bunch of our professors were former Weta-Artists)

B Fo

You motivated me to go to the Blender website and make a donation and damn, seeing the activity of hundreds of tiny amounts of money trickling in actually made me tear up a little. Who cares about shareholders when you have a gigantic caring community that loves this project so much that they *want* to give ten buckaroos here and there. Thats US!

B Fo

Ah, I overheard the "only" but still stumbled over it. It was double funny for me since I, female and into textile crafts, also called it "Cry-cut" the way he said it until now. I had no idea it was supposed to be "Cricket". Thats how stereotypes go I guess.

B Fo

I felt the same about that section, it dragged on a bit too much for me as well. I was like, okay, I got the point with the cars, why are we talking about Peloton? Imo keep the Juice example (because its very clear in how a tangible good is made into a service even when it requires no extra effort on behalf of the company) and put the others into a seperate B-Channel video because they get more extreme so thats interesting in itself. Just my suggestion though. I questioned at that point of the video whether we were still going anywhere.

The Thing Below

Okay, I may have other comments, but I couldn't hold this one in (not an edit note, pure personal memory wang)... 2:17:53 - Hey! That's my friend Simon! He did colour grading and VFX for a bunch of in-show film segments we had in theatre projects in Norwich in the late 00s and early 10s, as well as some short films I did. Top fella :-) I worked with FXHome quite a lot back in the before times (there might even be video of me pretending to be a shit wizard-lad, ka-blamming something nameless with my wand, floating in the wayback somewhere). But srsly, several folks at FXhome were friends and we used their expertise and software. Norwich had a really strong, DIY-to-semi-pro filmmaking community at the time and they were a big part of it (I went on from there to work in TV and film for about 10 years). Then the company was sold to an Israeli-based tech firm that's entire identity is now around generative AI and the rest is...well, tragedy. It's strange to think that my life - and career - were in some small way entwined with this particular flavour of enshittification.

B Fo

Agree, that was a stressful two hours for me as well, more so as we neared the end. I was already drafting the mother of all Blender endorsements in my head as I watched the last half hour.

B Fo

Oh, if were already going to list various subscription fuckeries, I may as well remind people of the shit Unity tried to pull until they got yelled at by everyone. They wanted to make it so that you had to pay retroactively for every time someone downloaded the product *you* made with their license that you already paid for, regardless of how tiny of a studio you were. They also succesfully bullied our tiny 7 people company into paying over 600 dollars per month instead of the previous ~200. So many people I know started learning Godot after that fiasko.

Zwei Kreise

legit maybe the most important video of this decade? this made me want to go download weird/old open source software and make things using old computers. i was already 70% of the way there and i feel like this video was the push i needed, not only for more creativity but also cancelling my apple music subscription and put that cash towards the eff instead (and maybe qobuz later). i can't wait to annoy everyone in existence with this video when it comes out, and so glad i signed up just to watch it cos i knew by the title alone that i would love it (as someone whose absolute first experience with a computer at the age of 2 was playing around with photoshop and illustrator at his dad's place of work)

Ember Wyrdt

"apple's Logic Pro" at the 2-hour mark pained me greatly (since Logic has existed since prior to Apple buying it outright, and more recently trying to make it part of "the Apple Creator Studio", a subscription service similar to Adobe Creative Cloud or whatever the fuck they are calling it these days - you CAN still buy it outright FOR THE TIME BEING but the option to do so is increasingly hard to find on the relevant website... so i think it's only a matter of time)

GhostlyClaire

Thank god you did mention Blender at the end, because I was constantly thinking "wait what about Blender" "why hasn't he mentioned Blender" "surely Bomber Harris MUST know about Blender" "I wonder when he's going to namedrop my boy Blender" "fuck, man, he's fucking snubbing Blender"

enyo

I, too, was yelling OPEN SOURCE at the screen for ~4:20 hours, as a computer scientist + artist who has never paid for software other than video games and the dreaded mandatory price inflater, Windows. Big ups Krita btw, it's rarely mentioned by anyone and it's too good to bother paying for something else lol, every aggrieved artist go try Krita right now!!

J

at around 1:55:00 you start talking about media composer, and I have to say that avid is fine now. it's usable and smoother and doesn't look as ugly anymore. And though it's an expensive alternative to premiere pro (for now) I do like editing in it when I can.

AcuteGabby's Patreon

At the start, instead of "who says neigh" instead try "what says neigh". After all, horses don't exist and a good joke never dies.

JimJam

THIS IS AMAZING!!

Fruity

"Watching this on a second monitor while you draw furry pornography?" Never been called out so hard...

Quitpayload

I don't remember the exact quote, but in one of the earlier previews you say something like "Holy shit do congressmen love buying stock on tech monopolies. This is insane, I am insane!" Personally, I really liked this bit, and I think you should keep it in the main release of the video. Maybe it didn't fit in with one of the changes you made between the last preview and this video, but if you can find a way to include it in the final video, I think that would be great

Henry

When I got to the Godot bit it was fcking hypeeeeeeeee

hely branco

I step out for a short while to not end up living, under a bridge and, you know, get a job, and when I finally return not only Hbomb turns out to be alive the whole time but there is an entire video? Things move fast here. And, please, final test? This has barely passed the 4h mark, it is nothing. I could watch something three as long. Heck, I even watched the entire Skyrim video – YES, in 1x speed. Twice. I dare you to make me bored Harris, you are powerless against my appreciation of your work, you worm. Jokes aside, the video is great. I learned a lot, which only made my resentment towards big tech and Adobe in particular grow . I do think there are a few spots all around that would benefit from some music or a minor audio correction, but all from animations to pacing works well. I also spotted at least one typo in one of the title cards around the middle, but that could have been intentional. I'm looking forward to spend another 3 evenings rewatching it once it is out on youtube.

Otho the cat and Chalmarius

Lol im glad you mentioned reaper even as a joke. its fantastic and doesnt actually charge anything. It can also do as much as any of the major payed programs with some use of good tutorials

Otho the cat and Chalmarius

Lmao, nvm I guess reaper costs money now. guess I got grandfathered in on my tiny donation from back in the donation days

Bellana

Love the Apple segment especially it's so interesting

Supreme Leader of Australia The Don George Bradman

All these subscription services is why China is kicking the arse of all the western products like Cars so they had to put in boycotts on the products. Except in the greatest country in the world AUSTRALIA!

EdwardBazinga

Do you have a list of sources yet?

Willo

Any chance you could upload this one to YT privately? I cant change the quality and my internet connection is bad.

Dustin Francis

I agree that you are being nitpicky.

Belphonz Lumen

What amazing timing with the Warner Bros Paramount merger officially going through

nicholas givens

hahahahaahahahahahahaahah i've been locked in adobe's grasp for years! NO MORE Thank you for leading this strike on those fuckers! I hate adobe! It's not even that good! It's all super complicated and not that intuitive! Not worth! 18k a month!

Nick Hodgie

As someone who genuinely eats mackerel regularly (canned in brine, mixed into noodles), this tickles me funny.

Edward Price

Hopefully this isn't too late but Bork's being revoiced during the gunfight scene, right? It feels too weird having Hbomb speak to Hbomb

Brais Romero

It's around the corner, man, you just have to hope

Lucky Dagger

I don't think you can legally be taxed for digital purchases that aren't permanent in the US. So technically if a payment processor says there's sales tax included it needs to be in your computer and only you can uninstall it.

Lucky Dagger

The real answer was to get software to rip the video from the DVD and save it on the nano.

Lucky Dagger

This is actually pretty well known. The reason was that apple refused to have anything with a ToS that requires you to be 13 or older if the rules didn't ban material considered 18+ as their response to stories of ppl spreading CSAM or soliciting minors, two things that are not stopped by banning mature content.

Lucky Dagger

The Bork section is central to the root cause of the problem the video is addressing.

Samuel K.

HOLY 4½! Re-activating my subscription for this video. Thank you, Harris!

Dermot Byrne

The bit about audio engineers put me in mind of why Steve Albini preferred to record to physical tape - he always maintained that it would still be usable in 100 years - but music recorded through software is in danger of that software falling out of use ....or now being abandoned after being made defunct if the subscription service isn't making enough money.

Awful Anime

Hey Harris. I need you to know that the last 30 minutes or so were revelatory to me. Not that the rest wasn't the usual masterpiece I expect from you (it was), but the line "It's bad to be dead inside", with its build up, hit me in a really good way I'm not going to forget any time soon. Thanks.

Deanna Louise

this is so damn good, my bf and i cackled all the way through and were so bummed out when it ended. could easily watch another hour (or two honestly). absolutely crushed this one team, excited for the final!!!

SlimeDrive

I don't think the video is long enough.

Sick Nogge

2:05:28 I belive you where thinking of Rhino

Sick Nogge

And Rhino is possibly my favorite program ever, and it has perpetual licenses. It is wildly unintuitive almost like it hates new users, but sooo nice if you have at least a few hundred hours in it. My other favorite 3d modeling program, solidworks, is a subscription so expensive that I haven't used it since graduating.

Midnight Panda

got existential dread watching this, 10/10

Machadaynu

Autodesk repair Autodesk replace

Ale0x78

We might get Silksong DLC before we get a public release of this one gang.

Niclas Kupper

Small correction: Elizabeth Magie invented the Landlord's game to specifically teach the ideas of Henry George (now often called Georgism). Georgism is explicitly capitalist and not socialist. Still against landlords though.

Echo Cian

I knew what was about to happen as soon as Harry sat at the bar. Thank you for making a skit for the rest of us internet kinda-olds. For feedback, even though I'm late to this so it probably doesn't matter (oh well), I do kind of agree with other comments that the middle feels like it wanders off into the weeds, but I don't know which examples could be removed since they do all wrap back to the main point and emphasize the nature of the problem. They were good examples, though, there's just a lot of them. Maybe just picking the strongest of each subject would be more concise but still get the message across (one car, for ex) because the sheer amount of industries that do this already drives home the point of how widespread it is.

Captain Chernihiv

Man... Pirating is a moral imperative at this point

Starved For Time

Lol. I made some of the music for the PS1 Beast Wars game. Nice to see a Beast Wars shout out.

Starved For Time

I feel like expanding on an already near 5 hour video is a big no. I feel like making smaller videos based on enshittification and technofeudalism is a better option. 20 minute videos do exist you know.

Zevi Nova

Probably too late for feedback now but just wanted to note I was surprised there was no mention of the Consumer Rights Wiki, FULU Foundation, or Louis Rossmann who has been a huge advocate for right for repair and calling out anti-consumer practices.

Max Kuda

NO FL STUDIO MENTION in pro tools section????? Pls include my beloved software Btw FL still offers lifetime free updates unlike ableton

Fraeyen

My girlfriend broke into actual tears after learning about ruffle and that she could replay the games of her childhood. 10/10

James Henderson

Definitely a tiny nitpick but theres at least once where you mentioon horses which we all know don't actually exist, think that could be a mistake?

kookie

A video about software? HAHA I'M A BURNED OUT SOFTWARE DEVELOPER. THIS IS MY HEROIN.

kookie

I'm surprised you gave reaper a shoutout and not bitwig—I thought that would have been more popular. I've never tried reaper but I've been meaning to try it

Davey

I just want to note that I use Adobe acrobat solely for my job and solely for the pdf editor. In the past week it's become thoroughly unusable because the ai panel keeps shoving my pdfs out of the way. Meanwhile my edit panel only loads half the time. It's organisation managed so I can't even revert. Adobe must die indeed.

kookie

Thank you for this one, it's genuinely art and it was worth the wait. And I'm really hopeful with the message. We can build a better future! I love you

Human

Holy mackerel, 4 and a half hours? I have years of binging on this ahead of me!

cyberglot

working in tech is a real nonstop grind and if someone big company approaches you with money, it’s hard not to think of how your material reality could change.

John Needham-Pearmain

Keir Starmer is no longer PM lol hope it works with Andy Burnham (not made it to that joke yet though)

Bertie J Russell

I don't know what's up with the video file in the Patreon app, but it is SUPER finicky with whether or not it decides to actually play or cast. I know hosting to YouTube invites people sharing links, but would it be possible to host it there instead? I only got it to play through fully once when it was first uploaded, and it was when it was late at night and I fell asleep, lol. (Yes, I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app, logged in and out and all that jazz)

ItaLii

IT’S FOUR HOURS LONG?!

JellySnek

Awww did you mention Blender at all during video? I didn't see it and I thought I've missed it.

Masseria

Obviously he was still against toddlers shooting anyone, that should be a crime, but only a good baby with a gun can stop a bad baby with a gun.

Terra Jones

the green screen joke was hilarious

Terra Jones

bounced on my boys dick to erik's cameo

Jesse Daniel Smith

I do get the bit but I don’t think Adobe pricing is so outrageous that it deserves all this — especially with the abstraction to making personalized apps thinning. I’m 90 minutes in and all the other stuff is interesting though

Megan Randall

need an illuminaughti r/agedlikemilk episode on the kier starmer resignation references dotted thru this video

Ben Astar

I subscribed to watch this only to not only find out I’ve given apple money but broken Hbomb’s 0% number oh god oh fuck

Quitpayload

Hey, it's not related to the new video, but I have good / bad news that I think you should be privy to if you aren't already. Rockingmre is back on YouTube. He goes by "Rocking Philosophy" now.

Judi Noble

"Did you know local governments can do things?" Honestly until recently I did not know that 😭😭

Sandip Gohil

It's also outdated because this Man City sham thing and the selling off of land at a discount to the ADUG could put pressure on him

Toby Jenkins

the nick robinson joke was funny

OniBee

I'm not even remotely an expert on the subject, but I do want to point out that Australia has pretty strong consumer laws, so I wouldn't assume they're being "well meaning Australian companies" when doing otherwise would likely get them in a LOT of legal trouble

Callum Arnold

Well it’s been two months, but I’m finally back to offer thoughts. Scrolling down to get here, I saw plenty of fellow patrons offering their own suggestions, and it’s relieving to know that crowdsourcing feedback like this makes my delayed response less of an issue. Not sure where things are at with work on this video with a view to releasing it publicly, but I have two thoughts to share that I haven’t seen mentioned. 1) The visual gag with the monster cans is tremendously funny, and I really enjoy that it rewards those actually watching the screen without calling attention to itself if you’re on a second monitor. 2) Certain audio effects in the first half of the video’s visual gags call attention to themselves in a bad way. They’re very loud but absent the visual context confusing and jarring. I’m specifically thinking of early on in the Bork segment, the animation of Adobe eating companies; Those sounds are much louder, but when I initially watched that part I was audio only and it wasn’t clear from previous context that that was what I was hearing. It’s possible you’ve already addressed that specific thing, but I figured I’d mention it in case. As I said above, this video only gets more and more relevant, and I look forward to whatever your next project(s) look(s) like, since you decided to tease us all at the end of this video about them!

pydrunk

I audibly cheered when godot was mentioned

Wendy Russo

Hey, have you checked out Framework laptops ? The framework 23 pro is beautiful, I would buy it if I had a billion dollars to afford RAM, they're also compatible with linux and windows

Ginny Di

ehhh, in for 4.5 hours, in for 5 🤷🏻‍♀️ once a video is over an hour or two, a difference of 20 min or so is irrelevant to me.

Nathan Zotov

Honestly the thing it really needs is a lot of cutting down. Like a lot. A lot of the appeal of these kinds of videos are the long tangents and rants but they're so excessive here and often unrelated to any other point that it slows the video to a halt.

Aurora

i feel like the first half especially has this problem; a lot of it feels aimless until it does the circle back moment.

Josh Yates-Walker

I don't know if it's too late and at the risk of delaying the final version, it looks like someone reversed engineered by vibe coding using Artifical Intelligence the entire Adobe Suit and made it OpenSource: https://getartcraft.com/apps

Alex Cruise

This may be a bit of a spanner in the works, but... Your last video was before this Benight'd Age, Life Comes At One Fast, etc. These fine folks have allegedly decompiled Adobe products using AI and vibecoded "clean-room" "replacements". I don't think they're the only ones! [Elmo raises hands triumphantly in front of all consuming flames] https://github.com/storytold

Joseph Souza

It was such a beautiful Easter egg for those who have watched all of his videos multiple times every few months

Órlaith Nic Cábe

hihihi, i wanna start this by saying i love your videos. i've watched your stuff for years, and i've even met you at a convention and have gotten a piece of fanart signed which is still stuck to my wall to this day (my friend was your chaperone and said you're a delight btw). despite all this, i find myself a bit disappointed with the production cycle of this video. i know there have been dramatic issues throughout, but simply a monthly post with a handful of sentences saying "work is ongoing, here's what's done and what we plan on doing next" would suffice. but as it stands, there are stretches of silence which spend the generous goodwill your audience has to see your talents and ambitions fulfilled. i want to see your best work come from you, but in an economy where more and more people are financially stressed and an increasing number of good causes cry out for more charitable funding, it feels bad to increasingly feel like patreon money is being taken for granted. i hope this doesn't read as too harsh or entitled - i genuinely love your work. it's inspired me and continues to do so. this is simply a small collection of thoughts which have percolated to the point of expression.

Masterderp7

Would this go on YouTube by the end of the year

Panaramics

With the new developments in the ai copying of all adobe products I do wonder if this will cause a new renaissance in image editing software (ie lightroom esque programs with no "as good" alternatives

Jax Monty

Apologies if this has already been discussed but time to quit our costly Adobe subs?! 👀

Dylan Nugent

Minor detail and I'm sure someone else in the 1800+ comments caught this, but just in case, for the list of Patreon subscription options at 3:16:19, the two you remove include the recurring subscriptions whenever the user signs up, and keep the recurring on the 1st of the month option. The VO and email text both state the opposite (the 1st of month option should be gone and the recurring at signup time option kept) and I think the graphic is wrong here. Also the App Store segment makes it sounds like the App Store launched with the iPhone (it launched a year later, and the initial iPhone had no apps), though I assume that's an intentional simplification of the timeline since it doesn't change too much.

S

Here for the Bork One Winged Angel hellscape. Sephiroth will be thrilled.

Impy

Damn i cant wait to watch jacksfilms read that quote from Scalia its already so funny in my head

Chris B

Marvelous! I think the length is just fine but also that you could also very well go deeper into the enshitification & technofeudalism aspect of things. Not sure what to cut though. Anyway, in a weird way this piece gave me back some hope that the future might not look so bleak, that we are not helpless against these mega-corporations or at the very least that we are not alone in this fight. Thank you for everything hbomb, you've become one of my happy places over the years :)

Lucas Zischler

While I enjoyed the video, I feel it misses what made the two previous being a hit, which is the switch in tone mid video. There could have been a lot more effort dedicated to the open-source alternatives, and show how community driven effort is the one thing that can challenge these big monopolies. I was screaming to the screen while 3D software alternatives where being discussed about Blender (which is a true standard nowadays), and waiting for the part where it was going to be mentioned. Unfortunately, only the last 30 min was dedicated to this. There are so many alternatives for adobe products which could benefit significantly from being in the spotlight. Krita is a great alternative for Photoshop, Inkscape for Illustrator. There are also so many efforts to make it easy to migrate from the Windows ecosystem. Other products maybe don't have great replacements yet, but I'm sure there is a community of dedicated artists/developers dedicating their own time in order to provide free alternatives. Meanwhile the video spends hours and hours retelling what we already know, which is the greed of the elite, leaving the viewer with a taste of hopelessness. This bitter taste could have been washed out with a love letter to the open source community in the last hour.

Kryshen

Great vid. Imo, I would cut the Steve jobs bit like you cut the illuminaughty bit and post it as second channel content. It's good, but it takes the steam out of the sails right as you approach the conclusion.

Alori White

lemme put something on in the background to get the mood just right

Fi

So people just used AI to clone the Adobe Suite and drop it for free online. It's not stealing if it's been scraped by AI right? Feels extremely relevant to the video but I'm not sure if you want to increase the run time or get into the whole AI thing. Maybe a follow up video?

John, John really can't draw all right

After hearing the words "sideloading" near the end, I almost saw Louis Rossmann in the background talking about not accepting the premise of assholes, in unison with Harris Bomber Man Guy there.

KC Pelletier

probably a little late to add an addendum but recent the ai opensourcing of adobe has me conflicted and i wish i could hear your perspective on it

Janque

It's a small thing, but I got tickled seeing HBomb (Not on a first name basis, I don't know him, we're not friends, he'll kill me.) bleeding out in red yarn.

Julia Welden

I am from Los Altos, CA (birthplace of Adobe and, regrettably, others). It is also home to Permanente creek, for which Kaiser Permanente was named. Can't reminisce about splashing around and catching tadpoles without feeling melancholy about the fact that these names have been grafted onto some of the worst companies in human history. Been looking forward to this video for awhile & good on you for taking care of your health!

dehededsheep

i actually have had mackerel and I demand a formal retraction.

Lena S

Would be interesting to add a note on how very recently people have completely reverse engineered Adobe's Creative Suite and released it as open-source. Not that it's working that well right now - from reports the ACS one seems to be quite glitchy - but could nevertheless cause interesting ripple effects in the market. Or just massive lawsuits. Great video!

Hannah Bo Banna

Another month is gonna be added to production bc of decompiling, you can just google photocraft now and it works in your browser..! Same for filmcraft, effectcraft e.t.c.

TamagotchiButtPlug

Love you HBOMB. I've heard your voice near enough daily for years as your videos are very much my confort content. But I'm curious, has the opensource recompiles of the creative cloud apps affected the progress of the video at all? Do you feel compelled to work it into the project?

Fears Tears

To back up a few comments about the script being (just slightly) long and needing some cuts, there are a handful of times where it feels like the same point is repeated multiple times in succession, almost as if two or three takes were recorded of the same point being ad-libbed and both were kept. There are multiple examples of this, but the one that made me think "huh, he's done this a lot in this video" was at around 2:25:00 where you say "Adobe's competitors have no reason not to be as bad as Adobe if they become as successful" twice, just with different wording the second time. To be fair, that example is less something that needs a cut and more something that could've benefited from revision.

Andrew Horner

I came here to drop the same link, because I think this ties extremely well into the end of the video: it's part of the answer to "How do we fix this?" I do think using AI to reverse-engineer proprietary software (then open source it) has its own implications and moral repercussions that merit their own separate exploration, but by the time this video is published, it feels like it will need to acknowledge the recent events here.

valhrafnaz

Usually I'd see an assault on existing software made with ai slop code as a massive threat to the future of software, but open source exists, and while artcraft are really fucking shit probably, seeing clean room re-implementations of adobe stuff, ms office, autocad and figma really could not have happened to a worse set of companies lmao

Jackson Cook

Amazing video so far, enjoying v much. I noticed something, and wanted to politely and gently nudge Kalen to add a joke at 01:33:19 in the subtitles to complete the bit.

valhrafnaz

I have to be honest, the fact that this video is missing discussion on Free and Open Source Software alternatives to existing software (especially high quality shit like Blender and Krita), and how copyleft licenses like the GPL prevent this exact type of enshittification by allowing forks makes it almost entirely worthless as a final product. Taking this long to produce something that refuses to engage with the solution while also having a 4 hour runtime is seriously making me regret supporting you for the duration of the making of this video.

Samantha Mabee

Oh god now with the decompilation of adobe software and games this is a huuuuuuge development

HalpCorgi

I knew we were gonna get a FOSS video from hbomberguy eventually

Churlie

I know the bit is supposed to be that we're all masochists who love watching a 4 hours plus video about software subscriptions but this feels SO flabby and long for the sake of the bit being that it's long. At about 2.5 hours I skipped through and every time I stopped there was a screenshot of a different software subscription page and I thought "there's no way multiple editors couldn't find at least 45 minutes to streamline from this thing". I really enjoyed the first hour or so but couldn't finish it when it devolved into a mostly humourless repetition of introducing some piece of software, talking about how great it was, then saying it got bought. Previous videos have felt long because the story evolves as it goes, and I just didn't get that feeling here?

kookie

I'm very happy about the "what do we do now" section. I really want to contribute to Kdenlive, a great open source video editor that really could use like 10% of polish to become a super powerful tool for lots of people

HalpCorgi

a thing I noticed when talking about DAWs, you didn't mention the big dog known as FL Studio

HalpCorgi

to note when talking about the "getting trapped in the tesla" most models have manual door releases, but not on all doors, because apparently the people in the back seat don't matter??

TuggingtonNamerson

I agree with some others in regards to the video running a bit long winded for the 3rd quarter. I would compress some of those full breakdowns of every individual company's downfall into information a bit more bite sized and then release the detailed breakdowns (which are good, they just break up the pacing of the full vid) onto the second channel or into a follow up video. Other than that it's a mastahpeece. Thank you for putting a lens on Open Source software; I use it a lot both in my line of work at a library and in my personal life as a hobby and the benefit of it cannot be overstated.

cpu_12

can someone tell me how to join the discord? Idk how patreon works but it said I will get access

Morri's Insane Ramblings

With the (for now) very recent open source AI decompiles of more and more software including Adobe's, it might be a good idea to talk about them as well.

JI Mendaro

We will evolve and become Substance. Subscribe to Substance

phramos

The recent "AI reverse engineering" trend is, besides the whole AI bubble and the bs that comes with it, making what happened to Flash more difficult to happen, in my opinion. Pretty good video!

Linus643

I paid two whole Washington kroner just to watch this

rip bozo

Just subbed to hbg for this cus I said fuck it hes peak, lets goo

rip bozo

Yall are just crying I thought it was funny

PeachBeach923

While I would gladly listen to Hbomb talk about anything for five hours, I do agree with some comments about bloat in the runtime here. It is astonishing how many companies were or are being corrupted, were built with good intentions, were offered a tantalizing amount of money to be taken over, and in this economy had to take it, becoming comically evil in doing so, and prompting new "genuine" competitors to emerge in their absence, thus reigniting the whole cycle. But that being said, I just keep feeling my mind wander and go back to check what I missed. The first half that was released was witty and punchy and to the point. Even though it's taken years to get to such a state close to completion, which I don't even mind, I think taking time to sit and consider the point of the video and what we can do to overcome the landlords and the Borks of the world may help. Especially with the new open source apps, like many people have pointed out! I think that would add such an interesting lens to reflect on the video's runtime with. Also, my one tiny knitpick after having watched the first half so many times is that I much much prefer the original line read of the whole you don't know me, we are not friends, bit! This just stuck with me throughout the video and I don't know why, it just felt so sincere and I mourn the loss lol.

Nicole J. LeBoeuf

Just watched this over a couple sittings this past weekend - amazing work, makes a whole bunch of connections explicit that I hadn't personally thought of, and ends on a hopeful note just as we enter the last two weeks before a U.S. election. Read about the Power to the Players act this morning, introduced by Democratic Congressman Ritchie Torres, which "aims to ensure you own your digital games, rather than merely buying a license that gives you permission to play them." Seems to be precisely the sort of fighting back you're talking about, at least on one front.

Max Van den Berg

Well you're going to have to talk about the ai cleanroom versions of the adobe products now

Jess Johnson

This is very cathartic to listen to while I recover from a broken foot and pay monopoly prices that now include three different copays even though I drove and walked myself to an urgent care to save money on it. The last time I broke something it was one copay and that covered the x ray and the specialist referral. Now each one is a different charge and the cheap way costs as much as an ER visit used to. Privatized, monopolistic healthcare is a horrorshow.

Roee Myzel

Fine, I'll be the guy who comes to Avid's defense (the program, not the business model). Avid is a program that's designed for collaboration in an environment that's well maintained. If you're not familiar with it, it's very punishing, which is why most of the people who work on it do so in facilities where there are Avid experts on the payroll that are there to help. But if you know how to use it, there's no replacement for working on huge projects that have entire floors of people working on it simultaniosly (sports, news, reality tv). Not only that, if you set itt up properly it's actually not very demanding on the PC, so you can reduce costs on that department.

Lauka2

Joke's on you HBomb, i'm not listening to this video, for a second time, on my second monitor drawing. I'm listening to this on my second monitor, a 15 yer old LG Flatscreen, while harvesting Coral in minecraft!

bjaarki

So strange as a 3D artist seeing you talk about Mudbox. I actually HAVE used Mudbox, it sucks lol. I done 3D in college then uni, and it's still very mired in in the Autodesk pipeline (particularly 3DS Max, which I actually quite like) but I tend to use Blender a lot more these days since all this paid corporate shit has only got worse and worse as you of course covered. If I do use zbrush/substance painter I ofc just pirate it. This video was very, very cathartic for me thank u Hbomb.

Johannes Gutsmiedl

I will say this because I rewatched this and somehow this seems like the best place to share this opinion (after finally quitting reddit): Raid Shadow Legends has created the most successful online marketing campaign ever. I would have never heard of that name if it wasn't for all the channels mentioning it ironically as a sponsor they'd never deal with... people who never got paid by them made me look up who they actually are. I never played the game, it's really not my jam... but you really got to wonder, how much free advertising did they get from people parodizing them? I wouldn't be surprised to find it is more than what they actually paid for.

Bea

Unfortunately, just as you finished the video, an elephant entered the room

Impy

Its kinda funny, you mentioned Luxottica, because just today I saw an ad in front of the brand stores they own in my country, and it told me I could rent my glasses instead of buying them. Its exactly like you said!

Henry

you were maybe doing a bit and either way this has probably already been commented an annoying number of times but laizzes faire is pronounced "lah-zay fair," not "lay-says fairy"

Zman Rogers

Dude i was going insane trying to figure out who the doctor was around 1:30, he looked and sounded so familiar. Loved captain D’s videos back in the day, haven’t thought about that guy in fuckin forever

Asagi Asagiri

there's also the warner bros and paramount merger which just exemplifies the point of this video

Joseph

I've watched it like 4 times, don't listen to the people saying it should be shorter Make it even longer.

Nout Hoozemans

By the way, the Dutch say "nay". All the time. Pretty much the only word in their vocabulary. Page two read "ja" at one time, but it was getting pretty unpopular, so they decided to stop wasting the paper and just drop it.

Lucian

I am literally in the middle of Adobe related hell at work right now. We're being forced to take on more students to justify the existence of our degree, but already 500 Adobe CC licenses cost us an eyewatering £62,000 per annum. We're going to run out of them next term. But our course description says we provide CC licenses to all students! But where are we going to find more Adobe money from? It's our single biggest annual expense by far and trying to eke more money out of the central University feels like walking to my own execution. Adobe can't die fast enough and I absolutely mean it

Jose M4sterJP Barrios

I KNOW PUTTING A AIRTAG ON YOUR GF GAMEBOY CASE WAS WERID HOLY, I love you Hbomberguy

DJ Bongwater

im on my 3rd watch here and i do have one note: 1:29:28 figma balls 🤗

Robyn Darbyshire

"This is your final test" When I saw a 4 and a half hour video on how Adobe is shit I got ACTIVELY excited

Marine

I was talking with my colleague about this video, and he told me he used to work for a company that developed a drawing/editing suite that became popular in Belgium. Apparently, Adobe suddenly drastically lowered the price of photoshop in Belgium to kill the competition, and they succeeded.

Bryce Smith

The way I LEAPED up at 3hr40 when the "bartender" shows up. What a pleasant surprise :)

Alexander

well with recent news well, lets just say that the title may (or may not who knows anymore) age like milk

papio4

I'm late to the party but you should know the Brussels Effect was named after the California Effect, not the other way around 😄

Adam Pliszka

I think it's about the free vibecoded software clones? I guess the implication is that this will hurt Adobe cause there's a "good enough" free clone. From professional experience, I am pretty sure it's not gonna affect the most important customers (institutional clients) in the slightest, no matter how good the free clones are. But for Adobe, I think small companies/individual users are a weirdly noticeable source of revenue, so I guess that's the point here. That the individual users will stop using Photoshop, and Adobe will die cause of that?

PauperPrincess

also... That is how you pronounce it. It's a crioline cutter. a Cry Cut

PauperPrincess

note 1: The i'm partnering with adobe part drags on seven examples too long

Pomegranate

Looking forward to part 2!

Hbomb

Yeah I think so too, hopefully it's short enough in the final version! eagerly awaiting note 2

PauperPrincess

i'm on my fifth watch through of the video after having shown it to numerous friends and family. My big other note is that the intro parable seems too long. If i tell my friends "This is a video about capitalism and monopolies" and they have to sit through ~30 minutes of adobe flash explanation and advertutorials it feels disjointed, if i tell them this is a video about the death of flash player, or such, then most of the video isn't that. I think that as this is largely a critique of adobe, mentioning flash is good, but i think the intro parable (and perhaps video title)-should be more directly related. The in partnership with adobe segment is kinda a microcosm of it all All in all, this is a lot of very interesting information, but i feel like even after 5 watch throughs i can't pin down a thesis. Roblox oof's twist worked because A. it was short, 2. the twist happened shortly, and III. once it happened, it was obvious that the whole video led up to this Plagarism and you(tube)'s mid video twist worked because the early part was very much the same as the late part, but the later part was doing it at a larger scale to one creator. This video is amazing and i love it, but it is also a very long video, and a lot of it, especially the intro feel superfluous. To the point i would potentially consider the title "Adobe Must Die" almost clickbaity. Sure, adobe is a major player in the story, but you really spend at most 2 hours talking about them. It's also not that good a hook to anyone who doesn't already hate adobe. Perhaps something as simple as "Subscriptions must Die" or "Monopolies must die" are better, but i think that falls into the same trap overall, the video feels... Unnfocused? like you're writing 3 different videos that have been combined into one video. This was a minor complaint i had with plagiarism and you(tube). I often skip to the sommerton stuff on rewatches. Overall, i'm left wondering if this is a video about Robert Borking the FTC, or about the roles creatives have and the power companies exert over them While each of these have a role in the story of adobe, one of them should be the focus, i feel. The ending suggests the takeaway is that we as creatives have the power to stop using these companies, but that doesn't really feel like an ending to the part about how the world got this way, and that seems to be the driving force of the video so idk.

PauperPrincess

i do admit i do not have any right to call something long and disjointed when it took me 13 paragraphs to do so, and i barely explained my point but shhhhh.

Anna

Came looking for this lol

PauperPrincess

Note 2: i'm on my fifth watch through of the video after having shown it to numerous friends and family. the intro parable and most of the video seems too long. If i tell my friends "This is a video about capitalism and monopolies" and they have to sit through ~30 minutes of adobe flash explanation and advertutorials it feels disjointed, if i tell them this is a video about the death of flash player, or such, then most of the video isn't that. I think that as this is largely a critique of adobe, mentioning flash is good, but i think the intro parable (and perhaps video title)-should be more directly related. The in partnership with adobe segment is kinda a microcosm of it all All in all, this is a lot of very interesting information, but i feel like even after 5 watch throughs i can't pin down a thesis. Roblox oof's twist worked because A. it was short, 2. the twist happened shortly, and III. once it happened, it was obvious that the whole video led up to this Plagarism and you(tube)'s mid video twist worked because the early part was very much the same as the late part, but the later part was doing it at a larger scale to one creator. This video is amazing and i love it, but it is also a very long video, and a lot of it, especially the intro feel superfluous. To the point i would potentially consider the title "Adobe Must Die" almost clickbaity. Sure, adobe is a major player in the story, but you really spend at most 2 hours talking about them. It's also not that good a hook to anyone who doesn't already hate adobe. Perhaps something as simple as "Subscriptions must Die" or "Monopolies must die" are better, but i think that falls into the same trap overall, the video feels... Unnfocused? like you're writing 3 different videos that have been combined into one video. This was a minor complaint i had with plagiarism and you(tube). I often skip to the sommerton stuff on rewatches. Overall, i'm left wondering if this is a video about Robert Borking the FTC, or about the roles creatives have and the power companies exert over them While each of these have a role in the story of adobe, one of them should be the focus, i feel. The ending suggests the takeaway is that we as creatives have the power to stop using these companies, but that doesn't really feel like an ending to the part about how the world got this way, and that seems to be the driving force of the video so idk.

sal scorpion

wish there were more updates

Gamug

Since everyday something new happens, you probably already know that few weeks ago someone using AI basically cloned the whole suite and uploaded it on github. I would like to hear your opinion on these kind of things since I think could be relevant to the topic of the video. On one hand it’s bloody AI, once again threatening to kill stuff and jobs, on the other hand is Adobe getting fucked a little, which is always a little cathartic. I think there is some ethic dilemma that could be explored here, even as just a footnote.

PauperPrincess

Note 3: I can't believe i forgot this (or you) but you need to talk about pantone Pantone has been doing the adobe subscription model for years, with physical products, since the 90s. They're selling you COLORS. Not to mention the whole adobe fiasco. Seriously. pantone needs a mention at least

Thomas Brooks

Fun fact, as a LensCrafters employee we specifically get training titled "we are not a monopoly"

Katie

Adobe employee here. Subscribed just to watch this video 👀 (And yes I was acquired and not hired—my company was on the screenshot lol) #1, Adobe didn’t actually kill Flash, Steve Jobs did. (I’m being punchy, but what I really mean is evolving technology.) Not mentioning this is CRAZY work. I was not an employee when this happened, ofc, but I was an Internet user, and I remember public sentiment about Flash was BAD. Programmers, on the whole, hated it. It was COOL to hate Flash. The artist contingent who loved it were a very, very, small minority. It was the correct business decision to decommission it and force everyone to HTML5 instead. Sad but true. But to say that Adobe acquired Macromedia intentionally to kill Flash is false. They needed web authoring tools to compete with Microsoft and expand their presence in a designer’s workflow. #2 I don’t know if I see the eViL in Adobe giving creators the bag to promote products or (dumb) new features. You would know better than anyone in this comment section that sponsorships keep the lights on for content creators, bc YouTube monetization ain’t shit. Would you rather you and your contemporaries be corpo schmucks with a boring 9-5 like me? I didn’t think so. You gotta take the bad (dubious partnership promotions) with the good (funding a silly little short bit that made you laugh). Anyway, leaving long comments on Patreon is annoying as hell, so I’m gonna stop here and make a new comment if I have more to say for the next 3 hours of this video.

Hbomb

#1 - please finish the video lol

Paul

@Hbomb You too man 👨

Armand Rudolph

I always thought of psychotic as reference to psychopathy. I had never even considered it might be hurtful to people who deal with psychosis.

Armand Rudolph

I didn’t realize bots were patrons of hbomb too

Levi Kessler

Just wanted to let you know since I see a lot of ppl saying otherwise: take your time. Rome wasn't built in a day and when this comes out it'll probably make a significant splash so it's worth it to spend as much time on it as you need. If it doesn't come out until 2027 or hell, even 2028, I'm certain the wait will have been worth it. It always has been so far. And to everyone else reading this comment who may be impatient: I understand, but you need to trust the process and trust Hbomb. To quote youtuber Snapcube's dub trailers: it'll be out when it's done and no sooner. You cannot speed up the process this way.