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Greetings, Patrons! Last year, in celebration of its 40th anniversary, I (Diamond Feit) brought you a podcast about The Terminator. 11 months later, in celebration of no anniversary in particular, I'm BACK with a podcast about Terminator 2: The movie, the games, and the legacy of this blockbuster sequel that helped define Hollywood blockbusters in the 90s.

Joining me again are James Eldred, host of Cinema Oblivia and our go-to expert on movie history, and Los Angelino Drew Mackie of Gayest Episode Ever. Take note that when we recorded this episode, the new 2D T2 video game NO FATE was slated to be out by now, but it has since been delayed until October. Who could have guessed a Terminator might be tardy?

Artwork for this episode by Nick Wanserski and editing thanks go to Greg Leahy. Music heard in this episode (nearly all of it from the film itself):

13:05 - Teaser Trailer

23:02 - The Canal Chase

30:08 - Desert Suite

38:23 - Escape from the Hospital

47:25 - Sarah on the Run

56:58 - Target Acquired | Main Title

1:06:35 - Terminator Impaled

1:17:53 - Cameron's Inferno

1:24:15 - Guns N' Roses: "You Could Be Mine"

1:36:09 - Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Arcade): Name Entry

1:45:37 - Terminator 2: Judgment Day (NES): Truck Stop

1:53:29 - Terminator Revives

2:04:53 - T1000 Terminated

Closing - It's Over

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TheLupineOne

Slide puzzles and their ilk being shoehorned in between platform stages reminds me very much of Ocean doing the same thing with their games based on the RoboCop films. As for the pinball side, the first pinball table with a dot-matrix display was Data East's Checkpoint in February 1991. Terminator 2 was supposed to be Bally/Williams' first DMD table, but due to a longer design/production cycle, the first DMD table they released was, in fact, Gilligan's Island, in May of that year; T2's pinball table released in July.

tendo

1. James Eldred's mom is an important side character in this podcast and he is once again a great guest. 2. My lingering memory of T2 is the mental institution doctor licking Linda Hamiltons face which is a scene that would never happen in a major summer blockbuster today.

Sebastiano Gerace

I have heard the argument that Terminator 1 is better than T2 many times and every time I hear it I cheer. Because I love cheering for terrible takes.

Rasheen Jordan

The Abyss or what the cast and crew called it - “The Abuse”

Daniel Worthintendo

G'day chaps, so I come here with a "In Defense of Terminator 2 on Game Boy" for you. Christmas 1991, I got my Game Boy, a system that would change and define my life and hobbies forever. With it I got 4 games, Tetris, Golf, Bart Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly and Terminator 2. That was all I had to play pretty much until the release of Super Mario Land 2. As with any young gamer and their first system, you play the heck out of what you have, good or bad and let me tell you little 9 year old me played the heck out of all of those games but mainly Simpsons and Terminator 2. T2 on GB is one of those games I can almost play just off muscle memory, if not for the randomness of spawning in enemies I could prob do it no damage too. I loved the first stage taking down the towers to then fight the Hunter Killer. I remember getting lost in stage 2 or not making it to the door in time to rewire the T800. The puzzle mini game was brutal and even now will throw me if I'm not checking the times and everything while doing it. The next stage being T800 and John on the bike trying to blast the T1000 in his truck while avoiding barrels and other junk coming in from offscreen was one of those very easy to screw yourself over if you aren't being careful, you kinda need to just blast at the truck and then hide at the top for it to pass and repeat until you blow it up. Stage 5 is the only real stage that lets you live large as Arnold and just blast everything while you get the hand and chip from Cyberdyne. Stage 6 is just waiting for guns to drop from above, dodge molten steel while slowly blasting the T1000 into his molten melty death. It's a game of it's era, it is the kind of license trash you'd see alot of. I know for a fact I would not love this game if not through the nostalgia googles. There are much much worse games on the Game Boy, and this easily could have been worse too. LJN had a very spotty record with licensed games on the GB, but between this and Alien 3 (also by Bits Studios Ltd) they made some OK games. Also the soundtrack for this game is absolute fire and if you could at all fit it in a podcast I would be very very happy.

Jason J

Before Christian Bale showed us how brown and dumb the future war was, the fan site Terminator 2029AD had detailed articles on the war and the machines, including the T1000. In their telling, due to its nature the T1000 was highly autonomous and could not be fully controlled by Skynet. Viewed this way, setting it loose was an act of desperation. Robert Patrick's performance makes it something greater than a relentless killing machine; it almost seems to enjoy what it's doing, which makes it even more terrifying. P.S. Salvation is a bad movie, but the machine sound effects are great in my opinion.

SilverHairedMiddleAgedTuxedoMask

Great episode, and my hot take is that I want this series to continue with Terminator Salvation because I actually like that movie lol, and it spawned TWO games, one so bad it's good (Console) and a fairly good arcade game that you can still see in every single Dave and Busters. My favorite fact of the console version was that it was infamously short, I was friends with a guy who did QA testing for the game and he said they would literally speed run it on their lunch break, and got it down to about 50 minutes in co-op.

Julian

James, you spooked me there for a moment when you said you won’t be back. Glad I listened through the closing music.

Michael Castleberry

It's not exactly an accident that James Cameron had the villain look like a cop in this one.

Shrunken Shrine

Time for my usual "fuck yeah, James Eldred is on this one" post.

JJR

Haha Drew 100% called it when he said “ there’s probably a 12 year-old out there who’s watching this after just seeing Terminator 1 and had no idea that Arnold is good in this one.” I watched Terminator 1 and 2 with my daughters just a few weeks ago before I heard this podcast and my youngest is 12. Neither she nor her sister knew anything about Terminator 2 going into it. They loved the of Arnold being a good guy.