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Episode 580: The Mario 3D Ranking Hootenanny (Patreon)

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2023-12-15 12:00:10
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Jeremy: You asked for it... well, actually, maybe you didn't. But we did it anyway. We have followed up at long last on Episode 445, the Mario 2D Ranking Hootenanny, in a new dimension. The third dimension! Now, this is not about Mario games with 3D graphics; it is about Mario games that actually incorporate the third dimension in a meaningful way. Which is to say, they add an extra axis of movement to the action. So Mario Wonder, not even a consideration. New Super Mario? Nope. But Super Mario 3D Land? I mean, it has "3D" right there in the title. 

So, this is a smaller sample set than some of our other hootenanny efforts, but still one with meaning! As always, we (myself, Nadia, Diamond, Kevin, and Stuart in spirit) rank the games in our hearts, compare and add up those numbers, and then look at the sums to determine which is officially the greatest of the set. These rankings are final and official as always, so please prepare to adjust your personal opinions accordingly.

Edits by Greg Leahy.

05:52 - Super Mario 64: Metallic Mario

19:21 - 64: Snow Mountain

33:02 - Sunshine: Secret Course

43:40 - Galaxy: The Galaxy Reactor

50:23 - Galaxy 2: Melty Monster Galaxy

1:02:19 - 3D Land: Staff Roll | 3D World: Double Cherry Pass

1:12:56 - 3D World: Hisstocrat

1:21:12 - Bowser's Fury: Furious Chase!

1:33:55 - Odyssey: Steam Gardens

Closing - Odyssey: "Jump Up, Super Star!" Musical Trailer

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Lynge Pallesen

I’m a huge Mario fan and I have 100% every single 2d and 3d game in the series with the exception of Sunshine, I never owned a GameCube so I didn’t get to play Mario sunshine until the release of the Wii and while waiting for galaxy I got around to play it. And as much as I wanted to I just didn’t like it. I finish it (not 100%) and I never touched it again.

Keith R

I thought this was a slightly drunk podcast at first as half way through Jeremy started talking a lot slower, Almost sounded like he was slurring. Then I realised for some reason it had set itself to .75% speed 🤦‍♂️

Jeremy Mele

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I like 3D Land more than 3D World. I think the former is a tighter experience that highlights pure platforming in a way that the latter doesn’t. That’s not to say 3D World is a bad game (it’s really good! and the multiplayer is deliciously chaotic), but the levels sometimes feel too long and gimmicky. I’m also not a huge fan of the cat suit as a power ups I will say, though, in 3D World’s favor, that unlocking Rosalina is really cool, and more Mario games should have unlockable characters with altered move sets.

Thad Komorowski

My only complaint about this wonderfully diverse episode — no write-in rankings from Bob! I am rather thrilled that Odyssey is generally revered. It's the game that got me to get back into video games after a dry 10+ years of none.

Andrew O.

I've always been critical of Mario Odyssey. A game celebrating Mario, yet steals Kirby's gimmick, and fills the game with cool suits that don't give you cool abilities. I also think the way they hand out moons for doing basically nothing is not only boring, but predatory. Dishing out some endorphins between actual challenges to keep you engaged. Despite all this, the game is amazing. I'm starting to fear the future of video games and their impact on the brain.

James Krusling

I enjoyed this immensely, definitely agreed with the sentiment on Sunshine but I definitely related to Nadia feeling jaded after that game…then Galaxy hits with that insane soundtrack, super awesome level design, great story, and the Evangelion like ending that caps it all off. This was a great one to listen to especially after just finishing Mario Wonder and about to start the Mario RPG Remake!

littleterr0r

Bowser's Fury? More like, Bowser's a Furry!

El Pescado

3D Land is my favorite 3D Mario by a landslide. I think it’s the difference between collecting “Stars” in a hub world area vs. bespoke levels with a Goal Pole at the end. 3D World’s biggest failing in comparison is that all the levels have to be so wide and sprawling in order to accommodate four players. I think 3D Land was just a more focused platformer overall.

PurpleComet

I didn't realize there was all this love for Mario 3D Land. The game bored me. I derive most of my enjoyment from Mario's more difficult levels. 3D land had me yawning quite a bit. Even the special world levels were underwhelming (except Crown Crown). To that end, Super Mario Galaxy 2 sits at the top of my ranking. It gave me more Galaxy levels (always a good thing) and upped the difficulty (the one area I felt the original SMG was lacking). I'm one of those sickos who love the Luigi's Purple Coins level. I can't overstate how floored I was by Mario Galaxy. Sunshine left me wondering if Nintendo had lost their mojo, but Galaxy was joyous, inventive, and brilliant. I didn't know video games could be that good.

Dave Dalrymple

For me, Sunshine and 3D World are the only Mario games I lost interest in less than halfway through. I full-cleared Mario 64 and Mario Galaxy, and I came close to full-clearing Odyssey and Galaxy 2 (except for some parts that were just too hard for me). Mario 3D Land sits in this awkward space where I beat the first half of the game, and then felt burned out when I started the second half.

Conner McCabe

I loved this episode despite disagreeing with many takes and rankings by the crew. Doesn’t matter! Their opinions are valid and I loved hearing how they felt about each 3D entry. Bravo!