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BballQueen 94

Haley’s parents are annoying to me personally. Glad they’re going on the road lol. Thanks for the reaction, I hope you’re doing well

DazzleFae

I hate how unsurprised I was by Deb's behaviour with this whole thing tbh. Like, yes, in S1 she was making an effort to be better for Nathan and all that, but people often forget that in order to be making an effort to be better for your son, you have to have not been great in the past. I mean, there's a reason Nathan was eligible for Emancipation, otherwise Deb would've just been granted sole custody. And like you said, she could EASILY still have Nathan in her life. He's not asking much of her, he just wants her to be supportive. She doesn't have to completely agree with them getting married, but she does have to treat both him and Haley with respect. She was telling Dan about how he has a new family and all that, but they could literally both be a part of it! Honestly, Nathan would be thrilled to have them, if only they'd be decent parents and not treat him and Haley so badly... They don't have to do anything but be kind and supportive. She's literally just decided she's not going to make the effort... Haley went out of her way to go see her, to bring flowers for Dan and to invite Deb to the party. And Deb used that moment to be mean to her. Then when Nathan came to confront her about it, she used that moment to basically tell him that not only was the heart attack his fault (from last episode) but that if he tells Dan about him and Haley getting married he'll actually be responsible for killing him. I absolutely love that neither of them are taking it though. Both Nathan and Haley are refusing to take her shit, and are standing up for themselves and each other and Haley's parents too. Nathan's not just taking it because she's his Mum, and Haley's not just taking it because she's Nathan's Mum either. They both recognise that she's being unfair, and they call her out on it. On the other end of that though. I absolutely love how supportive Lucas is! How much he believes in this and just wanted to let them know they DO have people in their corner. It's so sweet! And same for Haley's parents. I love that they're so supportive too. And what her Mum said last episode, about how her parents had forbade her from marrying him and that made her love them a little less, I feel like that very much applies to Nathan with his parents. The more they disapprove and tell him it's a mistake and all that, the more he's gonna pull away from them and the more resentment that's gonna build up until there's no fixing things, at least not completely. But I absolutely love her Dad's speech. I love what he says about "how old do you have to be before your love is real?" because he's totally right! At what age do people stop looking at two people who claim to be in love and saying "They're sweet, but it won't last."? I love it! <333

Heather

I think it really is an insight into why Haley is like she is. Great for character development. She's good-hearted, supportive, understanding and accepting like them, but also the complete opposite, mature, responsible, sensible, serious...