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Ok, two major bugs in the last build, one was if you tried to do anything involving Rogue masturbating, it was getting confused due to the complexity of that system and how it relates to her own offhand mechanics. Hopefully I made the tweaks that  will prevent that happening. For the record, the issue there was that in the first 0.973, players were reporting that Rogue would start feeling herself up at the drop of a hat, which was true. In later builds, I'd added a system that would make it so that when decided whether to do that, she would run through a series of checks to better determine whether she would be ok with that sort of thing, and that worked pretty well, I think, but the problem is that when Rogue's primary action is to masturbate, it needs to always work, and I didn't leave open that necessary loophole in the check. I put the loophole in, so it should work again.The second major bug was that her offhand action is meant to create a line of dialog when it starts happening, when she decides to do something on her own, and for whatever reason, that line doesn't seem to be happening, or gets forgotten somehow, which is what's throwing the "'int' and 'str'</module>" type error. I made some changes that I think should correct for it, but there are also some new diagnostic messages in there, so if everything goes well you'll never see them, but if you get a "tell Oni" line, tell me what it says so I can figure this out. Also let me know if you get a line like  "Rogue continues to masturbate. " when this is the first time she's started doing that in the current activity. That line should only appear the second time around, the first line should be more like "she starts to . . .", so if the "continues" version shows up first, then it's skipping the first bit for some reason.

Comments

unihov

Well one third of alphabet is behind us. Time to get to work. 😂

Oni

I'm really pushing for Rogue-Like Z.

unihov

And I'll be right behind you pissing you off and finding bugs. Keep up the good work.

voyeurkind

Not a showstopper, but in Rogue's room and I ask her for a date, the scene shifts to the Campsu Square.

MrSVCD

Nooooo, no Linux release. Was there too few donwloads?

Oni

Huh, thought I uploaded a linux, I'll put it in.

Oni

That's working as intended, although I might tweak it. I made it so that when you ask a girl on a date and she accepts, you first move to the Campus before heading out on the actual date. It clears up a few issues that were happening when people initiated the date outside the girl's room.

Oni

This is a bit odd, I added the linux version in the first post, and just tried to add it again, and it "uploads" fine and doesn't give me any errors, but then when I lock in the post the linux version vanishes. If you don't mind too much, I won't go into any crazy effort to make it work this time, but I guarantee you that once I get a stable build working I'll get the linux port to you somehow.

voyeurkind

Okay. The reason I mentioned it is because I was in Rogue's room a the time, and the scene change seemed odd..

Victor Lewis

what type of update can we expect after a stable build?

Anthony Michelli

I get this error literally every time I go to sleep at night. hitting ignore a few times gets me through it though. I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred. While running game code: File "game/script Functions.rpy", line 780, in <module> NameError: name 'K_PlayerFav' is not defined </module>

Oni

Yeah, I might try to explain that to the player a bit better, like "a little while later. . ."

Oni

Well, as I said in the update, I'm also working on changing the way girls enter and leave a scene, so I will be putting out a version to test that soon, but in terms of new features added I'm going to work to add some more elements to Kitty, like her room and the associated content, her relationship drama, and I want to add a female hand for fondling and stuff between the girls. Maybe some other stuff.

D0ugi3

I'm sure someone may have already pointed this out before but it seems like we are running into too many hiccups under the current version. I can only imagine that this type of thing will only prolong future releases because we end up being so backed up on previous versions. If this system has too many issues and there are too few people familiar with the program for you to take on as assistants, you'll only end up putting yourself in more awkward situations. That would really suck considering how much of an investment it is between the time you put in versus tha time/money your patrons put into the development of the project. I won't front and say I'm a top tier donor but I would guess you run the risk of people losing interest because more time is being used to fix current versions that only have a system re-work than something showing future development to keep people enticed. I'm certainly happy you are posting more often but even if you had to start from the ground up; Would creating this under a different program that sees more regular use be easier? Especially in the sense that you could hire people more familiar with said program so that you can spend more of your time creating content rather than running the risk of being 7 versions into something that is ideally intended to be as full of content as the original version? Either way I'll support you, I'd just hate to see a project as fun as this, risk going under due to the frustration involved in the constant fixes while you are just about the only person familiar enough with said program to do anything with it. I know dick about coding so perhaps my rant means nothing in the long run but if feedback can help in any way, I'll chime in <3

Oni

This is a weird one. There's no reason this variable should not be defined by the time it gets called. Something seems to be "un-defining" it, and I'm not even sure how to do that if I wanted to. When you're playing, are you playing from a new game, or from a saved game from a previous version, or a saved game from a previous build of this version?

Oni

There really isn't a much easier way to do this. Anyone familiar enough with programming to make a game do the things this one does is good enough to work with the code I've got, it's not that much of a mess. There is no game engine I've heard of that's simpler to use than Renpy, and building a complete engine from scratch is a huge undertaking. It's also worth pointing out that multiple versions doesn't really slow anything down, it's all about getting everything fixed. I'm to just sitting around waiting for bug reports and only acting to fix them, I'm also adding new elements to the game while I wait. The bug reports lead to a better overall product, not only fixing the problems directly, but also causing me to look at the underlying systems in a new way, and maybe deciding to take them in a new and better direction. Thanks for the tips though.

Anthony Michelli

Yeah, that turned out to be the problem. I was using a save from version G. Starting over fomr a new save didn't have that problem.

Oni

Ok, cool, although really a save from version g should probably have worked too, I didn't make any changes in between that would have removed that variable, and it should have been initialized when you first loaded up a 0.973 game.

Anthony Michelli

If it helps, the save was a "base" save I use that is literally just at the point where you name the MC so I could skip the intro when starting over.

Oni

Well, ideally it should all work, I'm really not sure why it doesn't seem to in this case.

db

Whenever Kitty cleans her face up, her eyes disappear.

D0ugi3

Sparkbomber, I think you may have taken a more negative tone from my post than I intended to begin with. I apologize if that's the case and to Oni if it came off as an attack but asking creator's questions shouldn't be an issue. The reason why I generally ask crap in such large detail is because the more people like Oni can give us in response, the better the situation looks and more understanding people become. You've now seen his post in addition to other people giving their thoughts. This gives clarity to his patrons as well as possible perspective for the creator himself. Personally, I would rather ask questions like these than be the people who just passive aggressively complain when they don't get what they want like for example: when Oni happened to miss a monthly update post. That's hardly fair to Oni. In addition, you may have been exaggerating when you suggested the date 2030 but if by any means that that is the reality of the situation? Asking these questions is all the more important in projects such as this or kickstarter, It's a form of public relations. Maybe the information could change what level people choose to donate to Oni because they want to see the game out just as much as Oni does. Hell if his donations were high enough, forget traditional staffing, he could probably afford to take in an intern and try to TEACH people the spaghetti wizardry that is Renpy.

MrSVCD

That is OK, wine still works.

Be_eezy

have you thought of partnering up with tinybuild? i know yanderedev did so they could port the game from js to c# and upgrade from unity 4 to unity 5 so maybe they can help you with some of the problems you are having with your game code

Kraven1

As long as we don't get Rogue like GT. ;)

Waelan

Hm, I'm not sure how the simultaneous actions work, if they happen in sequence or something... but somehow I am able to lick Rogue's ass and kiss her at the same time. Zero's got a long tongue. "She gasps as you suck on her anus. Her tongue dances around yours." :P The order of actions was fondle ass, finger ass, kiss her, lick ass. She is wearing her skirt, but no panties.

Oni

Hey, I'd be happy to help teach people the elements specific to the "Rogue-Like engine," and I try to comment my code as best I can to keep it legible. It helps if people already have experience with default Renpy, or at the very least with Python, which is the core language Renpy is built on top of. There have been several people who have made their best attempts to parse there way through the code and diagnose errors themselves, and it's typically very helpful to me. I do my best to explain how and why some of the more arcane functions work. I don't think it would take someone too long to fully catch up to how everything works, the only difficulty is 1. finding someone willing to commit to spending significant time on the project, and 2. figuring out the best way to make use of their talents.

Oni

Thanks for the catch, fixed in upcoming builds.

Oni

I don't think it's that large an issue. Hopefully. It's mostly just that I leave a gap somewhere, and don't notice it until someone stumbles through it. Once I know where to look, these things are typically not that hard to resolve. The new system is fairly complex, which means that there are several of these potholes in there, but once we find them all, it should work smoothly. Except for that bit where the K_PlayerFav variable is de-initializing itself spontaneously, I have no idea how that happens.

Oni

Lol, they do happen in a sequence, I tried to limit which combinations would be possible, but I apparently missed a tick. I think I can narrow this one down though.

Oni

Shouldn't do that in the next build now.

Techfire80

Having a great time with the game. Got a message and wanted to let you know. "No trigger was set or it was '0', please tell Oni." So I was in AM class on a Thursday with Kitty and Rogue. I sat next to Kitty, flirted with Rogue (kiss on lips, just a taste) and then kissed Kitty and continued. With hands on breast followed by fingering she reached orgasm, then I did and she took it in her mouth, That is when the message appeared.

Oni

Ok, thanks, I'll try to figure out what happened there.

Nondus

What is done by options in the section CHEAT, in the menu a conversation on sex?

Sazriel

I get an intermittent issue I'm trying to track down specifically, but I thought I would share what was happening in the mean time just so you are aware. This is with a new save file, but in times where sex has been initiated with Rogue, and it does this with Rubbing on her Ass, Vaginal and Anal, this will work as intended until the Zero cums. It then tries to switch to Rogue cleaning off his penis then immediately go back to sex while she waits for you to do continue or stop. But the penis and her hand animation stays and plays out until Zero cums again and the cleaning animation starts again. I can't seem to narrow down an exact sequence as its done it during a specific sequences, then I reverted back to the save right before and it won't do it again. I tried it on couple different computers just to make sure it wasn't my installation or machine specifically. It has done it with this build on both machines. Also tied with this same issue is a graphical glitch where her clothes pop back on at the same point the penis and hang animation sometimes gets stuck. Like I said you might not be able to do anything with this yet, but I just thought I would share it.

Oni

Are you talking about something you found in the game, or something you found parsing the code? There is some "cheat" content in there, but it's not intended to be used by players, they're basically just tools I use for quickly testing out elements, basically stuff like manually adjusting various stats. If anyone wants to figure out how to activate that stuff on their own version, I can't stop you, but it's not designed to work in the released versions of the game.

Oni

Yeah, I need to nail this one down. A number of people have reported a similar issue, and from what I can tell, there's no obvious reason why it's happening. One thing I would suggest as a test is, if you encounter this issue again, scroll back as far as you can (pg up), and then step through each sequence giving each a time to play out fully (a second or so should do), rather than spamming through it as fast as you can. One thing I think might be causing it is that when the "put away the HJ animation" routine runs, if you move to the next thing too fast then it might interrupt that animation and leave it out. I don't THINK that should happen, but I know that sometimes that's possible in Renpy and I might not have accounted for it as well as I'd thought, so it's worth a test. If you are testing for it, try and take note of any exact dialog strings that play, that will help me narrow down exactly which branches of the sequence are being activated, and since not everyone is reporting this ALL the time, it seems like at least some versions don't do this. I appreciate your diligence on this.

Matt Lovejoy

Glad I'm supporting you Oni, totally worth signing up for this site just to help ya.

Waelan

Hm, for me it seems to happen if it says "she wipes your cock clean", which doesn't have an animation tied to it. If it says she licks it clean, with its accompanying animation, it doesn't happen. I am able to reproduce the error though.

Waelan

Yeah, I saw that too. It's an option under "About when we have sex..." under Rogue's settings. The options that appear after clicking "Cheats" don't seem to do anything though.

Oni

That's odd. That option should not even be visible to players unless the developer options are active.

Oni

Omg, that might be it. I'll look into it more, but just glancing over the problem, I'm seeing a potential red flag.

Handsome Idiot

Will there be more male characters? or just the disable old guy in wheel chair?

hornguy6

Just so you know, Rogue is doing that thing again where the very first time you walk on her in the shower (literally on the second day) and you talk about missing the view, she says "You could have just asked" and flashes you instead of doing the other reaction (or the angry one if you have that programmed in.)

JulienJaden

Given that I find MMF threesomes more interesting than MFF ones, I would very much approve of male students that can actively participate in the fun. And being cuckolded with some other guys by the girls (obviously not the ones who can accidentally murder somebody) if you treat them bad enough would be cool. So, I'm also interested in your thoughts, Oni. (I think I asked you about something like this a while ago [like some of the other guys watching you when you have sex in public whipping out their dicks and getting involved] but I don't remember your response. :/ )

Oni

Ok, I'll double check that and see what checks are involved. They might be too lax. edit: yeah, I think I see what was causing it. I added in a second check and tweaked the first, so it shouldn't come up unless you've already seen her naked a few times and she at least kinda likes you.

Oni

I have to say, MMF situations aren't particularly likely any time soon. That's not a direction I'm currently heading with the game. I plan to add Beast in there at some point, but strictly as an NPC like Xavier, not an active participant.

Sazriel

Just an update with this, although you've already moved on to a different build. Slowing down did fix most of this issue. Since I was testing different things I was blasting through the choices and when I slowed down to a relatively normal pace, I didn't run into the "put away HJ animation" getting stuck anymore. But the weird clothes glitch did still persist. It seemed like Rogue would attempt to put her clothes back on early. I've moved on to the new build release but I am marking down sequences that lead to that issue, if it happens again. So I'll update there is it does. Thanks for all the hard work you're putting into this. Its great to have someone so interactive and diligent in their Patreon campaign.

Oni

Ok, so just to clarify, slowing down in version h caused the problem to not happen? Because I did make some changes to version i that should have fixed it in some cases. If speed is still a factor then I can probably adjust for that too.

Sazriel

That is correct. If I just gave everything time to play out I no longer got the stuck Put Away HJ Animation issue in version h.

Randy

Walked in on her in the shower Monday and it was the complete naked version. Not sure if that is supposed to be something that can happen that early or not. Helps with the bonuses :). For my other issue, loading a save to help narrow down exactly what I was doing, it didn't happen going forward, but instead got the Oni message as I was stopping everything. Happend right before everything was stopped.

Oni

Ok, if that's the problem then I might have fixed that part. There was an issue where basically you would go from point A to B to C, and then when leaving C would would end up back at B, where you'd get that error, rather than back to A, where you were meant to be. I fixed that much.