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Ok, here are some updated versions. Mostly bug fixes, although if any new ones pop up, let me know. * The R/K_Forced errors should be fixed, for some saves at least. Fresh games should work fine, and save files generated from the most recent version or from previous versions should work fine, but if you loaded an old save in 0.971, played a bit, and then saved that version, then it may still be bugged until the next release. Make sense? Sorry for the inconvenience. * I'm working on the gym clothes thing a bit, They may not be fixed yet and I'll likely shift how they function.* I added "catching Kitty in the shower," so test that out. * Added option to "forget" known custom wardrobe options. * Plus other minor bug fixes, typo correction, etc. Bigger changes still being worked on. If there is an obvious bug that is still occuring form the previous build, let me know, but if it was a feature request, I'm still working on it.  Also, I wanted to let people know that I'm still hiring on the following positions: * UI elements: Someone comfortable with Renpy Screen Language who could work on improving the UI interface I've been using. I can provide art where needed.* Renpy Animation: Someone preferably who is already comfortable with Renpy ATL animation, but if you have skill with basic digital animation you can likely learn to use ATL easilly enough. This is all stuff I've been doing myself, but it always takes me more time than it really should because I'm not comfortable enough with the toolset.

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hornguy6

Hey Oni, I've been thinking about the stat bars for a while and had this thought for your consideration. I'm not sure whether or not it'll be easy, worth it, feasible, or even possible, but here it is anyways. Something that's always bothered me since Kitty has been introduced is how annoying it is to manage the stat bars, at least for me. If you last talked to Rogue and walk into a room with Kitty you either have to talk to her to bring up her stats or click the button to cycle through. I have no idea why, but I find it terribly annoying. Add in 1 or 2 or 3 new girls and it's going to be a lot of cycling to read the stats you want. So my thought is this: what if you layered the bars and give them a slight overlap and a color code corresponding to which character's is which. Kind if line it is now, but they'd all be on top of each other and offset just enough so that you can see all the different girls stats without having to cycle. You still can cycle, and when you talk to one it still brings hers to the front for the full view, but at least you'd be able to keep track of everybody's without having to press anything. Then again, I might be the only one frustrated with the current cycling method so maybe it's a non issue to begin with.

Sally Fields

when you meet kitty in the showers, once you're done "fooling around" she goes back into her normal clothes

Oni

Should she not get changed to leave? ;) What would you like to happen under what conditions?

Oni

Some of what you say bothers me too, and I'm going to work to adjust that, so that the stats swap automatically under more circumstances than they currently do (like basically any time you interact with a girl, the stats should flip to that girl automatically). Also, once I add a third girl, I'm going to shift it from a toggle to a dropdown menu so you don't have to click repeatedly, but this was more expedient in the short term. I don't think showing them all at once would work though, because it would just be way too much data visible at once, I can't imagine any way to do it for 3+ girls that would be legible. I might have some sort of "status screen" where all the girls are on a single page for comparison purposes, but the basic UI that you see should be one girl at a time. Maybe two in threesome situations.

Barooth

Hey Oni, i just tested some stuff in the game and it looks like its "easier" to get Rogue to do things with the Green Skin, i don't know if its a bug or not. If you start the game you go through the "intro" with Rogue and when you click the exact same things on all skin colors (maxing out her 'Lust' with making out at the end) you can easily get her to do everything on the First Real Day as Green Zero but not with the others (have to test step by step again).if you want, i can make some small videos to show you what exactly i mean,

Oni

That. . . shouldn't be at all possible. Something else is changing somehow. Basically there is zero interaction (no pun intended) between the skin color option and any of the decision making systems. The only thing that calls that stat is the sprites used to display your character. It might be that you're hitting some random event on one playthrough that you aren't hitting on another, but it's impossible that skin color is changing any outcomes. Unless maybe she's gone self-aware and is kinda racist. I didn't do that though.

Barooth

i don't know as i said i'm still testing some possibilities, maybe she just likes the Green D who knows :D if i find out whats changing or what might change things i'll contact you again.

Oni

Ok, I'm just saying, when you pick a color option, all that does is set a single color variable, and the only part of the game that looks to see what that variable is, is the animation system that would display it. It's got to be something else, if you are making 100% the same choices, then there must be some random factor at play, like maybe you stumble into a shower scene earlier, or later, or something.

Barooth

yes, i just found out that some stat changes are not displayed right when skipping with ctrl, thats why i thought that there are some variables changing. Figured that the Skin choice shouldn't change a thing. So yes its just some variables in the Intro (mostly that she sometimes keeps going with making out at the end and sometimes not) the rest is completely the same but you can still get her to do most things on Day 1 what seems a little easy [Soaked way to much time into that tho] Are you Considering changing the amount of Stats gained or needed for certain actions? Well never mind, thanks for the fast replys and all the work you put into that.

Oni

Yeah, Rogue still likely needs some tuning to give her a bit more challenge. I kinda like leaving her mostly as-is though, with the goal that later girls have more of a challenge factor. Not that's I'm saying Rogue is *easy,* but. . .

Barooth

whatever definition of "easy" you fancy i'd say haha. only other issue i have atm is that both Girls can't seem to comprehend that i want them to wear outfit X in Rooms/Outside/in Bed. it works sometimes and if they (mostly tried with Rogue tho) wear one outfit outside they dont seem to change it even after i told them to wear something different and they are ok with it. eg: Rogue wears Green Hoodie (no Underwear ) and Jeans Outside, i tell her only underwear in rooms and only panties for sleep. she says ok on most and it works for Sleep and Outside but in rooms she still only wears Hoodie+Jeans. is that a known bug or is ut just my "luck" i always have to find all the loopholes in everything?

hornguy6

I think that what I was saying was hard to visualize. I meant something along the lines of this but more properly layered. <a href="http://i.imgur.com/2bUDIbr.png" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/2bUDIbr.png</a> I can't be bothered to renew my photoshop right now so MS paint editing will have to do. This is a rough example but what you'd see is a small portion, maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the status bar of the other girls layered slightly beneath whoever's stats are currently "main" and at the front, the front girl having 100% scale bars with no cutoff. The thing that I can't do with MS that my idea requires though is for the color code to fully outline the 2nd and 3rd tier girl's stats otherwise as you say it becomes too indistinguishable. I think swung like this, it could serve it's purpose without becoming too cluttered.

hornguy6

That being said, on the first day of school I encountered Rogue in the shower (with white skin!) and when I asked about missing the view she flashed me. On the first day. I'm pretty sure that's not right.

TOKA_浪人

Yeah, bath scene... but did you change something on Kittys behavior? In the last version she always refused to let me talk with her about her outfits and now she has no problem to go nude everyday and this with the obedience not even being half full. (<a href="http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32429984/rouge.png.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32429984/rouge.png.html</a> ) Also a minor bug, you already can tell her to wear bush or piercings, but it has no effect. (guess its not added yet) Also, I can see no Dildo anymore with Rouge, but I'm not sure if it was there in earlier version, only recognized it now.

hornguy6

By the way Oni, found one of the places I was telling you about before where telling somebody to do something gives them double reactions. Told Rogue not to clean up and leave it on her face, she gives me both the "I like where your head is at" AND the blushing shocked "Well, I guess I could..." Just one right after the other.

Oni

Yeah, that works with two maybe, but what about three, or seven? Like I said, I might add two at once at some point, but if I did, it would probably be in the form of a second smaller UI that appears slightly below the first, and only sometimes be visible.

Oni

I'll look it over.

Oni

Huh. That's the opposite reaction to the changes I tried to make. I'll have to figure out what's going wrong there.

Oni

Ok, fixed.

Noradel

From my personal experience, kitty in the previous version, was really reluctant to undress, but once you was able to choose her outfit, she tried them, and become more confortable with thoses. Until she could walk around naked. ^^ i'll try this one to see the difference.

Oni

Ok, I think I may have figured out the problem, now I need to figure out the best way to solve it. I don't think the approval checks are failing, I think the issue is that it isn't properly updating which outfit she's wearing and how she should feel about it.

Noradel

Don't find her to walk around naked that easily. Well passing by the "choose what she wear" menu, she can undress everywhere, but if i ask her to undress while being naughty, she don't compil that easily. :)

Sally Fields

Yeah it's just the droplet's and stuff are still there so she's still standing under the shower fully dressed

Andy

Just a quick question, once Kitty is fully unlocked will you be able to sleep with both her and Rouge? (Both in the platonic and in the biblical sense?)

Oni

Yes, eventually. At least two at a time should work for just about everything in some way once I've got it all in there. More than that starts to become a logistical issue so you might have to work out shifts. Step one though is to give Kitty all the same solo actions Rogue has, Then I worry specifically about multi-action stuff.

TOKA_浪人

Yeah, to make it more clear, I'm talking about the clothing options not the strip options in sex-menu! Its just strange that I can order her to wear nothing on every day and she did not complain, I even can order her to when we are at class. In the last version she would never let me talk about her clothes on public places at all and even in private (my room) she wouldnt let me order her to go nude outside.

LeoDustin

Soooo Oni is there any possibility for a cat girl costume to kitty?

Oni

Heh, I have to say I've considered it, at the very least some ears. ;) Not at the moment, but it's on the table.

Dubsington

* Texting from the showers brings me to the crash screen (rollback works OK). Maybe my cellphone isn't waterproof :) * Making out with either girl gives the "<name> puts her clothes back on", even if she hasn't undressed. When this happens very early in the game (when kissing is a big deal) this is kind of like "What?! Did I miss something great?!?"</name>

Oni

1. What sort of crash, what does it say the problem is? 2. I'll look into a better way of handling this.

Dubsington

1. I can't reproduce it later in the game, it appears. It happened consistently earlier though so I should be able to repro it and get back to you. 2. Thanks. New one: If Rogue is really tired out but still horny, then after sex she indicates she wants more but then goes right to "Fine!" and storms out. That might be slightly *too* realistic feminine behavior.

Oni

Lol. As for the first issue, could it have anything to do with not having met Kitty yet?

GPM

I kinda dig that wet look in full clothing

Oni

Heh, well maybe I'll figure out realistic ways of keeping that in as an option as well.

Dubsington

It could be. I started a new game and couldn't repro it; then I tried hitting my old save points before and after getting each girl's number and still couldn't do it. So, chalk this one up as "hard to reproduce". Either it was really some flukey racey condition, or something in the game state changed beyond just what's in the save file, which sounds unlikely (unless it is some exotic caching bug.) Probably not something to waste cycles on right now... If it happens again I'll cap it and send you details right away.

Oni

It is quite possible it's some weird caching issue, like you saved in the middle of a sequence and in the new version I changed that element to use a temporary variable that hadn't been generated in the original version, so now it's missing. I don't know. If you ever see another crash screen again, for this or any other issue, please take note of the error message, just the top portion of it where it will list which file and line the error took place on, and what type of error it was.

chiefitchyballz

i'm not sure if its a bug or nor but the nipple piercings don't show up on kitty for whatever reason.

Oni

It's because I didn't draw them yet. ;)

Valerio Plisov

hello I am a new believer I would ask some questions and can have sex with kitty? to me from all blocked when I try to do something. and possobile sex with two girls all at once? and in the end there will be x-23 in the full game? I love it

Oni

Most of the sex with Kitty options are not in yet, I still need to create art and most of the writing for those, but that's what I'm working on at the moment. Options to have sex with two girls at once will be added along the way as well. And yes, X-23 will be in the game eventually.

Justanx

Yeah breaking her hymen again and again and again. Letting rogue touch her after a nice BDSM session so the bruises don't show for classes.

Oni

I'll give it a look, thanks.

Rebounet

Still not hiring a French translator? :p I'll keep hoping, then!