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OA788: All My Conflicts: A Discussion of Trump's Lawyers & More (feat. Mitchell Epner) (Patreon)

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2023-08-04 03:29:07
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Liz and Andrew welcome back to the show Mitchell Epner, who helps break down today's arraignment of Donald Trump in DC, with a particular focus on the conflicts of interest surrounding Stan Woodward (in Florida) and Todd Blanche (in DC).

This is an unpaid post on Patreon and was released early for Patrons.

NotesUS v. Trump (DC) dockethttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/

Blanche PHVhttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.7.0.pdfUS v. Trump (SDFL) Garcia motionhttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648654/gov.uscourts.flsd.648654.97.0.pdfUS v. Garcia, 517 F.2d 272 (1975)https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2468718350509973831Liz's  Wonkette on “Free Speech” defensehttps://www.wonkette.com/p/no-shut-up-new-york-times-the-first

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I am not an abo-gato

There's recent reporting about a Trump attorney John Lauro talking about Trump pressuring Pence to "pause" counting the electoral votes. It sounds like Trump's defense strategy may be to argue over the interpretation of the electoral count act - claiming that the allegations in the indictment aren't actually crimes. How would this be handled in court? I don't assume the jury would be asked to decide which lawyer's interpretation is correct. Is there a way for Jack Smith's team to resolve any arguments over the meaning of the law before Trump's lawyers bring it up to the jury?

Tim Whatley

The “pause” was what John Eastman was talking about when he did his “now that we’ve broken the law, how about a little more” message. Even the Trump people thought the “pause” broke the law.

SchemaThings

If someone pays legal (or other) expenses on your behalf, wouldn't you incur some type of tax liability for that since it's effectively an indirect form of income? I'm thinking of Walt Nauto, Rudy's document processor invoice, etc. Seems like another interesting hook to watch the worms wriggle on.

C’mon

Choc full! Awesome guest

Snunkoople

I really liked this episode. Haven't heard the issue of atty conflicts discussed anywhere else. Great guest giving informative and entertaining answers to great questions.