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404 : recovering (Patreon)

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2016-08-30 04:33:40
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hallo my loves 

sorry so incommunicado for the last two days but totally effing happily brain  collapsed from the absolute awesome epic rock love punk cabaret all-one freedom soul fest that was the dresden dolls

 true catch-up very soon

xxx a 


ps photo by liz maney

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Pamela Brisjar

After all the energy and love and ART you did over the past week, that rest is well earned. No need whatsoever to apologize.

angela b

Rest up. And then tell me you're going to post a replay of the webcast. I was in the forest when this went down. 😙

Anonymous

Hi there 😃. Want to post a photo/couple of good images from great Concert Coney Island OR set up my page/blog. Could someone pls assist? Sorry am posting this here. But couldn't put it anywhere else (?). Teething probes :-/ Cheers & thanks guys! Yr awesome. 💜🌹😎

kimchiandco

So in love with the webcast Saturday - Mind. Blown. My first opportunity to see the dolls actually live (outside of youtube). Thank you thank you thank you!!!! Recover well, you fucking earned it!

Fever Fae

Hey...I had something I need to get off my chest regarding the show. I feel i have a duty to inform you. I know you'd hever hurt purposefully...and to be fair, I am a sensitive person. Now...I've been a diehard fan of all your projects since I first heard the dolls in 2007. I've seen you in Boston for the Theatre is Evil tour and I am not exaggerating when I say that show changed my life. I was in a dark, low place and it kept me from suicide. I mean it. This show, well. I had a wonderful time for the most part, truly, but I can't be the only person devastated that you chose to play Sex Changes in 2016 without changing the transphobic lyrics. I'm trans, female to male. I had a fucking panic attack and my dysphoria was badly triggered. I felt disgusting during that song. Most of it isn't about trans issues and that I understand. Besides, you're a cis (non trans, comfortable with assigned birth gender/sex) person trying to speak on something you don't really have any way to understand, and that was written in 2007!! I never cared for the lyrics and it was the ONLY song you made that I disliked. Ever. It has a beautiful piano arrangement and all...but I'm begging you please, change the lyrics if you choose to do it live again. I know it may not seem like a big deal to you, but my night was derailed. I was sobbing and curled in my seat. My friend had to talk me out of leaving the amphitheater. I had this sense of...non caring from you that I never experienced before.

Fever Fae
>>2433627

I don't like how this comes off as me trying to make you do something or not do something over discomfort but to trans people...some of the lyrics literally mirror hate speech I encounter regularly. Even if it isn't the intent the song sounds like it's saying trans people are destroying their bodies by transitioning. Couldn't be further from the truth. I know most of the song isn't even about that!! The rest of it is great commentary. But the beginning hateful lyrics just. I was sent into a spiral. I know you're a loving and kind soul. I wanted to inform you so you could avoid future pain with others. I'm sorry to bring negativity to your feed and again the majority of the show was AMAZING! I LOVED the half jack intro especially. You guys killed it! If this is more appropriate as an email, and anyone has an email for amanda, lmk--I couldn't find one I know goes to her directly and I wanted this read.

Michael Clark

Didn't get to say hi. :-P :: Next time. :: So I got home yesterday and slept, slept, cried, cried some more, and slept. But then again, I've been on my own little adventure for the last month / year / life, and yesterday was the first day in awhile I could fall apart. Thanks for your help in that, in all the good ways. :: Barking like a fucking lunatic at a full moon at the crescendo of "Sing" made my evening of the set. :: Mildly disappointed you didn't sing "Beastie Boys" as the lyric. Because you are they are the Dresden Dolls, and so on and so forth. :: Mildly disappointed "War Dogs" wasn't dedicated to both Donald and Hillary. :: In love with the community of people you have attracted to your music and your art and, well, to you. Meeting some of the people I have encountered online at the picnic and at the show, and before the show giving a ticket to a new NY friend, and being hosted by new friends the night of the show and the following night by friends I met at the Hudson dad show. Well, so much fucking gratitude for all the things that you couldn't ever thing. :: Looking forward to where you go with your solo stuff stateside, and all the things. Michael "my Twitter is still blocked" Clark

Michael Clark
>>2433627

I hear that a lot of pain was touched that evening triggered by some lyrics in that song and that it was overwhelming and that the majority of the crowd wasn't consciously with you in what you were going through. I am glad that your friend was there to be with you when most of us were choosing to be with what was going on with the music and onstage. I hear that you don't think the lyrics well convey the care that Amanda has for members of the transgender community and I hear curiosity if she knows how some people receive the lyrics and if she might be interested in using different lyrics. I do not know enough about that song, the lyrics, Amanda, you, or issues around gender to weigh in with an opinion. Nor do I necessarily feel invited to do so. And I acknowledge your pain you felt is valid, real, and worth caring about. * * * P.S. I ran into Jack Palmer in line before the show and met him at the dad gig at the Basilica in Hudson. Also, my beloved Mariana has a child and the father of the child currently is choosing to not associate with either of them at all. 'Half-Jack' had me sobbing the whole time, feeling for Amanda, Jack, Mars, Eidallinn, Sebastian, Jana, and then the rest of the world as we feel the hurt that lives in us in our relationships with our fathers (and our parents more generally (and each other more generally still)).

Rhianna Croucher
>>2433627

It's really interesting to hear such a different opinion: My current partner is trans and they love the lyrics! They've said several times that the lyrics you're see as 'transphobic' really strike a chord, that it's like "...someone looking into my experiences and my soul and bringing that kind of attitude out in the open so people see what we deal with or what a lot of people think about the trans community... I know that in a lot of ways transitioning hasn't magically cured every thought and feeling that I had before, getting all the operations isn't always what fixes the problem--it really isn't what I expected!..." (that's directly from a message they sent while we were watching the show. Also it might be worth noting that they chose not to completely transition so they're able to have children in the future, which we both thought is another massive part of the song). It's a lot like Mandy Goes to Med School in my opinion; It's quite clear that she isn't the heartless back-alley abortionist she embodies, quite the opposite really, but it still has a powerful and meaningful impact nonetheless. Maybe Amanda will think differently, but I believe that changing the lyrics of Sex Changes to that extent would kill the song. Still, I'm sorry you find it so difficult to cope with and my partner and I wish you the best.

Rhianna Croucher
>>2433627

I was just looking at my copy of the companion sheet music book and I though you might be interested in the note she wrote about it: "Someone once posted online - or wrote to me, I can't remember - that they were upset because this song seemed anti-transgender. This is not true. I'm as anti-sex-reassignment as I am anti-abortion or, for that matter, anti-sex (which is to say, not at all). This doesn't mean I never spend my time musing about the pros, cons and, most of all, the emotional aftershocks Sexual reassignment, losing your virginity, abortion, Getting It On in general...oh, how liberating to have the choice to do these things! And yet how mortally terrifying should you ever regret the decisions you make."

Anonymous

Even though we Patreon people paid for the webcast and recording (that is cool!), I still want to thank you, Amanda, for doing the webcast. I am excited I'll be able to download it. Was at your show at the Woodstock Theatre with PWR BTM last year and had tickets to Coney Island but wasn't able to go because of illness in our family (it's also three ½ hours from upstate). It's a modern miracle I was able to couch tour the fantastic show with your most excellent webcast. Not exactly like being there live as planned, but a lot better than if it hadn't been webcast or recorded!

Fever Fae
>>2433627

@Rhianna, @Michael - thank you for your kind words. I've had some time separating myself from the feelings I had from that song, and I want to reiterate that the rest of the night was amazing! I assumed she never meant anything by it, and to be fair, the phenomenon of "detransition" does exist. One of my best friends is a trans man, and almost all his trans friends wound up de-transitioning. One of them had top surgery already, and she wears prosthetics. She really regrets what she chose. I do feel that's probably what was meant and looking back, my comment looks -really- whiny. But I'm glad I posted. Your responses helped a lot. Michael, I'm so awfully sorry about what's going on with your loved ones. The friend I had with me, they LOVE Half Jack because their father is an abusive tyrant who still tries to find ways to control and manipulate them to this day. Their mother's stuck living with him and he abuses her, too, but she is chronically ill and can't leave. They were crying during that song, too. A lot of this music strikes a lot of emotional chords. And I do have to remind myself, these were written a long time ago! More and more about things like the trans community can be seen and known by cis folks. That wasn't the case not too long back.

Paul Atwell

Still high from the show, and glad that I can rewatch it thanks to the webcast. Although I have to say, I had a Meet and Greet ticket and it was a horrible experience that ended up with no meet and greet after 3 hours. It was really disappointing.

Len Tower Jr.

exquisite & sublime. my only regret is not being up to being at all three.